The Google CEO just played a master stroke to ensure google dominates

[taai]

I'll explain in the simplest possible terms since everyone here has the attention span of a gold fish.

When you used to search something on Google. You used to be able to see upto 100 pages but now it is reduced to 10..

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Now the question. Who looks through those 100 pages anyway Jason. The problem is that those 100 pages weren't meant for people it's for chatgpt, web crawlers to look through and give a varied and diverse set of results but now it is reduced to the same 10 pages that everyone sees


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Mr Pichai says it's for efficiency reasons but everyone knows it is for getting rid of web scrapers and competing AI models. Fewer pages, less content and more reliance on Google's api and more power and control in Google's hand. Just like that half the internet has vanished and all those little websites and blog pages are gone. Nobody is finding them. They still exist but nobody knows.

Another one for the books



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That's interesting I wonder what are the consequences of this. This affects more than just AI no? We'll see I'll look into this later

 

[ikramy]

If the sites still exist I’m pretty sure it could be found somehow,

 

[BigBallsLarry]

AI wars are heating up for the final showdown

'Final' showdown is still far away i fear.. Or it might happen soon, but it will still last for years.

 

[_MVP_]

Early life check anyone??

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His mother is Jewish; his maternal grandfather later immigrated to Israel

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Why jfl bhai @imontheloose

 

[imontheloose]

Why jfl bhai @imontheloose

jew things tbh

 

[mcmentalonthemic]

No Google's search engine is vastly superior. Google's PageRank and its evolution through Al and machine learning and indexing of literally billions of pages make it more or less untouchable

I disagree
It's vastly superior at its purpose
But not for user experience and reliability. Its purpose is to lead users to buy products advertised using Google Ads.
Youtube, even worse. There are times I search up a video is know for a fact I searched up yeaaars back thst I cannot find, then instead of using key words, I search the exact title, nothing. Then I find the original link and can view it normally meaning its not just because the video is taken down.
If google's search engine was extremely good at what people use it for, it wouldn't be consensus that its gotten shitter
Its job is to make money for Google, who know that people won't switch search engine from default, expecially since they're paying so many browsers to have Google as the default search. They know only autists will change search engine to a genuinely superior one or self host a search engine like SearX (which is probably what the AI crawlers will do)

 

[Jason Voorhees]

I disagree
It's vastly superior at its purpose
But not for user experience and reliability. Its purpose is to lead users to buy products advertised using Google Ads.
Youtube, even worse. There are times I search up a video is know for a fact I searched up yeaaars back thst I cannot find, then instead of using key words, I search the exact title, nothing. Then I find the original link and can view it normally meaning its not just because the video is taken down.
If google's search engine was extremely good at what people use it for, it wouldn't be consensus that its gotten shitter
Its job is to make money for Google, who know that people won't switch search engine from default, expecially since they're paying so many browsers to have Google as the default search. They know only autists will change search engine to a genuinely superior one or self host a search engine like SearX (which is probably what the AI crawlers will do)

Google’s UI and ad load definitely got worse but that has nothing to do with the actual search quality and algorithm imo. the ranking systems are still far ahead of every competitor. The things you mentioned are all deliberate things that they changed like YouTube example you mentioned isn’t a sign of a weak search engine. YouTube deliberately prioritizes recommendation and engagement over exact match search. This is well known. so it often hides older or low engagement videos even when you type the exact title. That’s a business/UX choice not a failure of indexing.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@GynoGladiator @slaters

 

[Jason Voorhees]

jew things tbh

I treat all these things as case studies

 

[imontheloose]

I treat all these things as case studies

great. now build ur hypothesis and collect masses of jews so u can experiment on them. mengelemaxing

 

[mcmentalonthemic]

YouTube example you mentioned isn’t a sign of a weak search engine. YouTube deliberately prioritizes recommendation and engagement over exact match search.

If I give you a rifle that can fire extremely accurately, but i handicap its internal rifling to make it much less accurate to save money, I cannot argue to you that the rifle is actually extremely accurate since its rifling change is a deliberate decision by me to save money so I dont have to operate the machine the rifles the barrel.
At the end of the day, the rifle is less accurate than it should be, or how the model was, and therefore its quality has gotten worse
Google and YouTube are extremely good at its job, to make Google money
Google and YouTube are bad at their job when it comes to its actual intended purpose as in the purpose the user uses it for. No user uses Google or YouTube to see ads or to have their search results' accuracy heavily reduced in favor of the possible retention they'll have on the videos they'll watch

 

[mvpisafaggot420]

This will only yield short-term results and give Google a minimal advantage, to be honest. Other AI systems simply need to adapt by finding more creative ways to obtain information, or by training their neural networks to identify topics and use pre-trained keywords to achieve better results, or by further expanding their searches and their cycles. More computing power will be needed, but with the influx of money the AI sector is currently experiencing, it shouldn't be too much of a problem.

agreed. i disagree that its over for openai and other models, since many users are not using a search engine anymore and their default way of interacting with web content has become through web UIs like ChatGPT. i also think long-term this could come to bite google in the ass since it makes them less competitive, this may have accelerated google's downfall

 

[Sprinkles]

I'll explain in the simplest possible terms since everyone here has the attention span of a gold fish.

When you used to search something on Google. You used to be able to see upto 100 pages but now it is reduced to 10..

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Now the question. Who looks through those 100 pages anyway Jason. The problem is that those 100 pages weren't meant for people it's for chatgpt, web crawlers to look through and give a varied and diverse set of results but now it is reduced to the same 10 pages that everyone sees


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Mr Pichai says it's for efficiency reasons but everyone knows it is for getting rid of web scrapers and competing AI models. Fewer pages, less content and more reliance on Google's api and more power and control in Google's hand. Just like that half the internet has vanished and all those little websites and blog pages are gone. Nobody is finding them. They still exist but nobody knows.

Another one for the books



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That fucking piece of shit

You know how much more searching a mf has to do now?

Maybe we can use other search engines or something on the dark net

 

[Jason Voorhees]

agreed. i disagree that its over for openai and other models, since many users are not using a search engine anymore and their default way of interacting with web content has become through web UIs like ChatGPT. i also think long-term this could come to bite google in the ass since it makes them less competitive, this may have accelerated google's downfall

People might use ChatGPT as their interface but the models still depend on high quality underlying search signals to stay useful. If Google ever fell behind every AI product that isn’t running a massive in house crawler would immediately degrade. Google more or less has a monopoly. It's the backbone of public web, everywhere you go in the internet there's Google.

 

[Acquiescence]

I’ve never felt better job security than I do now being a mouth breathing cable pulling monkey for these FAANG data centers

 

[Jason Voorhees]

I’ve never felt better job security than I do now being a mouth breathing cable pulling monkey for these FAANG data centers

Yo you work at a data center? That shit is so cool man

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@amp

 

[amp]

I'll explain in the simplest possible terms since everyone here has the attention span of a gold fish.

When you used to search something on Google. You used to be able to see upto 100 pages but now it is reduced to 10..

View attachment 4368573

Now the question. Who looks through those 100 pages anyway Jason. The problem is that those 100 pages weren't meant for people it's for chatgpt, web crawlers to look through and give a varied and diverse set of results but now it is reduced to the same 10 pages that everyone sees


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Mr Pichai says it's for efficiency reasons but everyone knows it is for getting rid of web scrapers and competing AI models. Fewer pages, less content and more reliance on Google's api and more power and control in Google's hand. Just like that half the internet has vanished and all those little websites and blog pages are gone. Nobody is finding them. They still exist but nobody knows.

Another one for the books



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Heard about this. Google basically a monopoly atp

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Heard about this. Google basically a monopoly atp

It has been for many years tbh

 

[decadouche57]

Very well written