The Grave

[JasGews69x]

The grave strips away all illusions of wealth,status and all other worldly attachments

It is a prelude to our Eternal destiny

Jannah or Jahannam

 

[Deleted member 100722]

The grave strips away all illusions of wealth,status and all other worldly attachments

It is a prelude to our Eternal destiny

Jannah or Jahannam

And?

 

[liberty]

if you replace the first letters of the words in OP's username, it starts to sound antisemitic...

i think OP might be an undercover nazi

 

[JasGews69x]

And?

It urges to reflect on our existence and that our lives are fleeting and temporary so we can strengthen our relationship with Allah

 

[Deleted member 100722]

our lives are fleeting and temporary

no shit?

so we can strengthen our relationship with Allah

Allah isn't real

 

[JasGews69x]

Allah isn't real

so the universe came from nothing?

 

[Deleted member 91349]

so the universe came from nothing?

Prove the islamic God made the universe rn

 

[JasGews69x]

Prove the islamic God made the universe rn

Allah is all powerful, eternal, all-knowing which makes sense of the reality around us
He preserved his book which cant be imitated which no other 'God' was able to do.
10s of Prophecies, some which are time-bound which came true which are impossible to know since we are time-bound.
Etc

 

[Deleted member 100722]

so the universe came from nothing?

Did Allah come from nothing?

 

[JasGews69x]

Did Allah come from nothing?

I thought he wasnt real

He has never had offspring, nor was He born. -112:3 Quran

 

[Vermilioncore]

What about the faggot that’s buried beneath the pyramids of Egypt

 

[JasGews69x]

What about the faggot that’s buried beneath the pyramids of Egypt

Nobody escapes
They go to a grave in a different dimension.
Even if they in the sea or cremated or in a fortified tower...

 

[Deleted member 100722]

I thought he wasnt real

He has never had offspring, nor was He born. -112:3 Quran

My dude, your previous post was suggesting that the universe must have been created (by Allah) because it cannot have come from nothing.

Do you think this holds true for "Allah" as well? If not, why not?

 

[Deleted member 91349]

Allah is all powerful, eternal, all-knowing which makes sense of the reality around us
He preserved his book which cant be imitated which no other 'God' was able to do.
10s of Prophecies, some which are time-bound which came true which are impossible to know since we are time-bound.
Etc

Did I ask?

The quran hasnt even been preserved anyway
And if it has, the quran has shitty teachings

 

[JasGews69x]

Do you think this holds true for "Allah" as well? If not, why not?

No, since nothing would exist if something didnt always exist.

 

[JasGews69x]

Did I ask?

Prove the islamic God made the universe rn

And if it has, the quran has shitty teachings

such as?

 

[Deleted member 100722]

No, since nothing would exist if something didnt always exist.

How do you know the entirety of matter that is our universe has not always existed?

In other words, why do you prescribe magical properties to "Allah", but not the universe itself?

 

[Deleted member 91349]

such as?

Quran 4:34 - Says u can hit ur wife is shes disobedient
Muhammads beheadings: http://www.muhammadanism.org/Islam/islam_beheading.pdf

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Vol. 7-#137 Narrated Abu al-Khudri: "We got female captives in the war booty and we used to do coitus interruptus with them. So we asked Allah's messenger about it and he said, "Do you really do that?" repeating the question thrice, "There is no soul that is destined to exist but will come into existence, till the Day of Resurrection.""



Here, Muslims had taken female slaves, and had sex with them. Muhammad approved of this. He only admonished them not to practice coitus interruptus."



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Vol. 7-#734 "....At the door of the [Muhammad's] room there was a slave to whom I went and said, "Ask the permission for me to enter".....



This is a long Hadith, and the quote reveals that Muhammad has slaves working in his house.





Vol. 7-#344 Narrated Anas: "Allah's messenger went to the house of his slave tailor, and he was offered a dish of gourd of which he started eating. I have loved to eat gourd since I saw Allah's messenger eating it."



This Hadith shows that another one of Muhammad's slaves was a tailor. #346 gives additional details.





Vol. 5-#541 Narrated Abu Huraira: When we conquered Khaibar, we gained neither gold nor silver as booty, but we gained cows, camels, goods and gardens. Then we departed with Allah's apostle to the valley of Al-Qira, and at that time Allah's messenger had a slave called Midam who had been presented to him by one of Banu Ad-Dibbab. While the slave was dismounting the saddle of Allah's messenger an arrow the thrower of which was unknown, came and hit him.....



This Hadith shows that Muhammad held a slave, who was struck with an arrow.





Vol. 5-#637 Narrated Buraida: The prophet sent Ali to Khalid to bring the Khumus ([one fifth] of the booty) and I hated Ali, and Ali had taken a bath (after a sexual act with a slave girl from the Khumus). I said to Khalid, "Don't you see this (i.e. Ali)?" When we reached the prophet I mentioned that to him. He said, "O Buraida! Do you hate Ali?" I said, "Yes" He said, "Do you hate him, for he deserves more than that from the Khumus."



The note for this Hadith says "Buraida hated Ali because he had taken a slave girl form the booty and considered that as something not good."



Here Ali took a newly captured slave girl, and had sex with her. When Muhammad was told about it, he approved of it. Note that slaves were considered as booty, and as a man’s property, they can use the female slave for sex, i.e., rape them.



"

 

[Deleted member 91349]

such as?

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Vol. 5-#512 Narrated Anas: ".....The prophet had their warriors killed, their offspring and woman taken as captives...."



This Hadith details the attack on the Jews of Khaibar. Again, many of the women and children were taken and made into slaves.

"

 

[Deleted member 91349]

such as?

THE RIGHTS OF SLAVES UNDER ISLAM



According to the Hughes Dictionary of Islam, slaves had few civil or legal rights. For example:



a) Muslim men were allowed to have sex anytime with females slaves - Sura 4:3, 4:29, 33:49.



b) Slaves are as helpless before their masters as idols are before God - Sura 16:77



c) According to Islamic Tradition, people at the time of their capture were either to be killed, or enslaved. Shows you that they were at the bottom of the barrel to start with.



d) According to Islamic jurisprudence, slaves were merchandise. The sales of slaves was in accordance with the sale of animals.



e) Muhammad ordered that some slaves who were freed by their master be RE-ENSLAVED!



f) It is permissible under Islamic law to whip slaves.



g) According to Islam, a Muslim could not be put to death for murdering a slave. Ref. 2:178 and the Jalalayn confirm this.



h) According to Islam, the testimony of slaves is not admissible in court. Ibn Timiyya and Bukhari state this.



i) According to Islamic jurisprudence, slaves cannot choose their own marriage mate. - Ibn Hazm, vol. 6, part 9.



j) According to Islamic jurisprudence, slaves can be forced to marry who their masters want. - Malik ibn Anas, vol. 2, page 155.

 

[JasGews69x]

How do you know the entirety of matter that is our universe has not always existed?

Us being alive shows that the universe has a beginning. If the universe was eternal, all the energy would have been used an eternity ago

In other words, why do you prescribe magical properties to "Allah", but not the universe itself?

Is the universe consious?

 

[PickleTheSlayer]

THE RIGHTS OF SLAVES UNDER ISLAM



According to the Hughes Dictionary of Islam, slaves had few civil or legal rights. For example:



a) Muslim men were allowed to have sex anytime with females slaves - Sura 4:3, 4:29, 33:49.



b) Slaves are as helpless before their masters as idols are before God - Sura 16:77



c) According to Islamic Tradition, people at the time of their capture were either to be killed, or enslaved. Shows you that they were at the bottom of the barrel to start with.



d) According to Islamic jurisprudence, slaves were merchandise. The sales of slaves was in accordance with the sale of animals.



e) Muhammad ordered that some slaves who were freed by their master be RE-ENSLAVED!



f) It is permissible under Islamic law to whip slaves.



g) According to Islam, a Muslim could not be put to death for murdering a slave. Ref. 2:178 and the Jalalayn confirm this.



h) According to Islam, the testimony of slaves is not admissible in court. Ibn Timiyya and Bukhari state this.



i) According to Islamic jurisprudence, slaves cannot choose their own marriage mate. - Ibn Hazm, vol. 6, part 9.



j) According to Islamic jurisprudence, slaves can be forced to marry who their masters want. - Malik ibn Anas, vol. 2, page 155.

Nigga quoting random sufi imams off google AHAHAHAHAHA

 

[Deleted member 91349]

such as?

All are muslim:
Al-Qa'ida
Islamic State
Hamas
Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant
Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG)
Al shabaab
Boko Haram
Should i continue?

 

[Deleted member 91349]

Nigga quoting random sufi imams off google AHAHAHAHAHA

Reply nigger

 

[JasGews69x]

Quran 4:34 - Says u can hit ur wife is shes disobedient
Muhammads beheadings: http://www.muhammadanism.org/Islam/islam_beheading.pdf

"


Vol. 7-#137 Narrated Abu al-Khudri: "We got female captives in the war booty and we used to do coitus interruptus with them. So we asked Allah's messenger about it and he said, "Do you really do that?" repeating the question thrice, "There is no soul that is destined to exist but will come into existence, till the Day of Resurrection.""



Here, Muslims had taken female slaves, and had sex with them. Muhammad approved of this. He only admonished them not to practice coitus interruptus."



"
Vol. 7-#734 "....At the door of the [Muhammad's] room there was a slave to whom I went and said, "Ask the permission for me to enter".....



This is a long Hadith, and the quote reveals that Muhammad has slaves working in his house.





Vol. 7-#344 Narrated Anas: "Allah's messenger went to the house of his slave tailor, and he was offered a dish of gourd of which he started eating. I have loved to eat gourd since I saw Allah's messenger eating it."



This Hadith shows that another one of Muhammad's slaves was a tailor. #346 gives additional details.





Vol. 5-#541 Narrated Abu Huraira: When we conquered Khaibar, we gained neither gold nor silver as booty, but we gained cows, camels, goods and gardens. Then we departed with Allah's apostle to the valley of Al-Qira, and at that time Allah's messenger had a slave called Midam who had been presented to him by one of Banu Ad-Dibbab. While the slave was dismounting the saddle of Allah's messenger an arrow the thrower of which was unknown, came and hit him.....



This Hadith shows that Muhammad held a slave, who was struck with an arrow.





Vol. 5-#637 Narrated Buraida: The prophet sent Ali to Khalid to bring the Khumus ([one fifth] of the booty) and I hated Ali, and Ali had taken a bath (after a sexual act with a slave girl from the Khumus). I said to Khalid, "Don't you see this (i.e. Ali)?" When we reached the prophet I mentioned that to him. He said, "O Buraida! Do you hate Ali?" I said, "Yes" He said, "Do you hate him, for he deserves more than that from the Khumus."



The note for this Hadith says "Buraida hated Ali because he had taken a slave girl form the booty and considered that as something not good."



Here Ali took a newly captured slave girl, and had sex with her. When Muhammad was told about it, he approved of it. Note that slaves were considered as booty, and as a man’s property, they can use the female slave for sex, i.e., rape them.

THE RIGHTS OF SLAVES UNDER ISLAM



According to the Hughes Dictionary of Islam, slaves had few civil or legal rights. For example:



a) Muslim men were allowed to have sex anytime with females slaves - Sura 4:3, 4:29, 33:49.



b) Slaves are as helpless before their masters as idols are before God - Sura 16:77



c) According to Islamic Tradition, people at the time of their capture were either to be killed, or enslaved. Shows you that they were at the bottom of the barrel to start with.



d) According to Islamic jurisprudence, slaves were merchandise. The sales of slaves was in accordance with the sale of animals.



e) Muhammad ordered that some slaves who were freed by their master be RE-ENSLAVED!



f) It is permissible under Islamic law to whip slaves.



g) According to Islam, a Muslim could not be put to death for murdering a slave. Ref. 2:178 and the Jalalayn confirm this.



h) According to Islam, the testimony of slaves is not admissible in court. Ibn Timiyya and Bukhari state this.



i) According to Islamic jurisprudence, slaves cannot choose their own marriage mate. - Ibn Hazm, vol. 6, part 9.



j) According to Islamic jurisprudence, slaves can be forced to marry who their masters want. - Malik ibn Anas, vol. 2, page 155.

mohammadism.org
dnr bro is using kuffar websites and blindy believes them

 

[PickleTheSlayer]

the Hughes Dictionary of Islam

This shit was published in 1885 by some random nigga. How are you so retarded

 

[Deleted member 91349]

mohammadism.org
dnr bro is using kuffar websites and blindy believes them

Prove it wrong

 

[Deleted member 91349]

This shit was published in 1885 by some random nigga. How are you so retarded

Prove what i sent wrong u inbred

 

[JasGews69x]

Prove what i sent wrong u inbred

Give me proper sources then I will

 

[Deleted member 91349]

Give me proper sources then I will

Sent the verses, hadiths. Keep coping

 

[PickleTheSlayer]

b) Slaves are as helpless before their masters as idols are before God - Sura 16:77

This is just blatantly false.

The actual Surah 16:77 is this:

If you took a second to google all the Surahs this thing claims to cite, you'd see that its literally all blatant lies. Not even tangentially what the actual Quran says. You fall for misinformation like a blind sheep.

 

[Deleted member 91349]

This is just blatantly false.

The actual Surah 16:77 is this:
View attachment 3460156

If you took a second to google all the Surahs this thing claims to cite, you'd see that its literally all blatant lies. Not even tangentially what the actual Quran says. You fall for misinformation like a blind sheep.

One surah is wrong, ok
Prove everything I said wrong
Prove the terrorism, beheadings and slaves wrong nigger

 

[PickleTheSlayer]

a) Muslim men were allowed to have sex anytime with females slaves - Sura 4:3, 4:29, 33:49.

False again.

Surah 4:3 states:

You can marry up to 4 women if you know you can provide for them equally, otherwise, content yourself with 1 woman, because you'll be less likely to mistreat them.

Surah 4:29 states:

Don't steal, Don't kill each other, and Don't commit suicide

Surah 33:49 states:

What this means is that if divorce is pronounced after the consummation of marriage, a waiting period of three months is observed to give the couple a chance to get back together and to see if the wife is pregnant (verse 65:4). But if the divorce happens before the marriage is consummated, then there is no waiting period.

Please educate yourself and actually read a book, man

 

[Deleted member 91349]

False again.

Surah 4:3 states:
View attachment 3460163
You can marry up to 4 women if you know you can provide for them equally, otherwise, content yourself with 1 woman, because you'll be less likely to mistreat them.

Surah 4:29 states:
View attachment 3460166
Don't steal, Don't kill each other, and Don't commit suicide

Surah 33:49 states:
View attachment 3460169
What this means is that if divorce is pronounced after the consummation of marriage, a waiting period of three months is observed to give the couple a chance to get back together and to see if the wife is pregnant (verse 65:4). But if the divorce happens before the marriage is consummated, then there is no waiting period.

Please educate yourself and actually read a book, man

Once again - I said the surahs are wrong. I didnt read it properly.

Now, prove the beheadings and slaves wrong.

 

[Deleted member 100722]

Us being alive shows that the universe has a beginning. If the universe was eternal, all the energy would have been used an eternity ago

I don't see how "the universe" needs a clear beginning (and end) just because we're alive. Maybe it's cyclical and we live through a phase in its cycle that allows life to exist.

Energy is neither created nor destroyed, only converted.

Also the universe is not conscious, since what we call consciousness is an effect of a sufficiently developed brain.

 

[PickleTheSlayer]

Now, prove the beheadings and slaves wrong.

Prove what? That the act of beheading or slavery as an institution are wrong? Or that they have been applied incorrectly?


Slavery is absolutely allowed in Islam, however the definition of slavery isn't the same as the western idea of africans in chains on a plantation. The closest western term for what Islamic Slavery is would be "Indentured Servitude".

Slaves were MANDATED to be treated well, and we are supposed to treat them like BROTHERS.

“They are your brothers whom Allah has put under your authority, so if Allah has put a person’s brother under his authority, let him feed him from what he eats and clothe him from what he wears, and let him not overburden him with work, and if he does overburden him with work, then let him help him.” Narrated by al-Bukhari (6050)

Just a heads up, if you see a hadith don't trust it because it;s not from the quran, they're manmade recollections from history. Al-Bukhari is generally trusted as a source. Other random hadiths can be straight up false like what you posted, so do some proper research.


As for beheadings, thats some shit made up by ISIS, which was funded by Israel and the Mossad. Ever wonder why ISIS has commited a major terror attack on EVERY COUNTRY, including MUSLIM countries, but has NEVER laid a finger on Israel?

I won't deny that some Muslims have done bad things, but thats Human error, the religion is unequivocally perfect.

 

[Deleted member 91349]

Slavery is absolutely allowed in Islam,

well well well
stfu
muhammad literally didnt care when his men raped the slaves

 

[Deleted member 91349]

well well well
stfu
muhammad literally didnt care when his men raped the slaves

Also
"Some muslims have done bad stuff" is crazy
Islam has lead to insane rape rates.
Islam has caused millions to die and be torture

 

[PickleTheSlayer]

well well well
stfu
muhammad literally didnt care when his men raped the slaves

Nigga youve been brainwashed by feminist school system, u think anyone cared about some shit like that during medieval times of war?

Even in modern day, a majority of women recollect experiencing orgasm during their rape, and rape is very commonly fetishized by women.

I Didn't Want To Be Aroused By My Sexual Assault, But I Was

Genital arousal is a learned response, the way Pavlov's dogs salivated in response to the bell.

theestablishment.co

 

[JasGews69x]

I don't see how "the universe" needs a clear beginning (and end) just because we're alive. Maybe it's cyclical and we live through a phase in its cycle that allows life to exist.

Energy is neither created nor destroyed, only converted.

In a closed system
The law by necessity has a lawmaker and enforcer. Laws by themselves cant do anything.

Also the universe is not conscious, since what we call consciousness is an effect of a sufficiently developed brain.

How can you make something without having the materials to make it?
Its like making a cake without water,flour etc. Its impossible.

 

[Deleted member 91349]

Even in modern day, a majority of women recollect experiencing orgasm during their rape, and rape is very commonly fetishized by women.

holy shit
average muslim

 

[JasGews69x]

holy shit
average muslim

good argument bro

Islam has lead to insane rape rates.

proof?

Islam has caused millions to die and be torture

proof?

 

[PickleTheSlayer]

holy shit
average muslim

What website do you think you're on? 90% of the users here are pro-rape nigga

 

[Deleted member 100722]

In a closed system
The law by necessity has a lawmaker and enforcer. Laws by themselves cant do anything.

How can you make something without having the materials to make it?
Its like making a cake without water,flour etc. Its impossible.

As far as we know, our universe is the closed system with the biggest possible scope. Why would you assume there is more than it? In any case, you could never produce a real proof, since it is outside of our perception, just thought experiments, logical tricks and statistical arguments.

The universe wasn't made, it is the thing that is all, and it is ever changing, expanding from a single point and collapsing backvinto that eventually, forever.

 

[Deleted member 91349]

good argument bro

proof?

proof?

ok

• Al-Qaeda - Islam
• ISIS (ISIL) - Islam
• Boko Haram - Islam
• Taliban - Islam
• Hamas - Islam
• Hezbollah - Islam
• Al-Shabaab - Islam
• Islamic Jihad Movement - Islam
• Abu Sayyaf - Islam
• Jemaah Islamiyah - Islam
• Lashkar-e-Taiba - Islam
• Jaish-e-Mohammed - Islam
• TTP (Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan) - Islam
• Ansar al-Sharia - Islam
• Al-Nusra Front - Islam
• Kata’ib Hezbollah - Islam
• Harakat al-Shabaab al-Mujahideen - Islam
• Islamic State Khorasan Province - Islam
• Al-Qassam Brigades - Islam
• Mujahideen Shura Council - Islam
• Abu Nidal Organisation - Islam
• Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades - Islam
• Palestinian Islamic Jihad - Islam
• Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine - Islam
• Ansar al-Islam - Islam

Europe:

As of July 2024, 15,909 prisoners in England and Wales identified as Muslim. This is about 18% of the prison population, even though Muslims only make up about 4% of the UK's population

Islam rate in the uk:

 

[Deleted member 91349]

What website do you think you're on? 90% of the users here are pro-rape nigga

your religion is pro rape nigga

 

[JasGews69x]

Why would you assume there is more than it?

Because atoms arent eternal and cant do anything by themselves. So it creating consious beings with a will, knowledge doesnt acoount for reality. So theres something external to it.

The universe wasn't made, it is the thing that is all, and it is ever changing, expanding from a single point and collapsing backvinto that eventually, forever.

proof?

 

[JasGews69x]

• Al-Qaeda - Islam
• ISIS (ISIL) - Islam
• Boko Haram - Islam
• Taliban - Islam
• Hamas - Islam
• Hezbollah - Islam
• Al-Shabaab - Islam
• Islamic Jihad Movement - Islam
• Abu Sayyaf - Islam
• Jemaah Islamiyah - Islam
• Lashkar-e-Taiba - Islam
• Jaish-e-Mohammed - Islam
• TTP (Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan) - Islam
• Ansar al-Sharia - Islam
• Al-Nusra Front - Islam
• Kata’ib Hezbollah - Islam
• Harakat al-Shabaab al-Mujahideen - Islam
• Islamic State Khorasan Province - Islam
• Al-Qassam Brigades - Islam
• Mujahideen Shura Council - Islam
• Abu Nidal Organisation - Islam
• Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades - Islam
• Palestinian Islamic Jihad - Islam
• Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine - Islam
• Ansar al-Islam - Islam

Europe:

As of July 2024, 15,909 prisoners in England and Wales identified as Muslim. This is about 18% of the prison population, even though Muslims only make up about 4% of the UK's population

Islam rate in the uk:

What does this prove again?
Where does it say they are following Islam?

 

[Deleted member 91349]

What does this prove again?
Where does it say they are following Islam?

Are you a retard nigga?
You say "obviously this is allowed in islam" "yes rape is ok"
but then say theyre not following islam

 

[Deleted member 91099]

Watching hitler arguing with random no name niggas is what i pay internet for