The idea that the only fat/ugly men with wives/girlfriends are middle-aged/older providers is the biggest cope ever

[BadLuck7892]

Don't get me wrong; it is true there are a lot of fat and/or ugly middle-aged/older men who are only with a foid because he's a provider for a foid who's aged out of the ability to ride the cock carousel.

That being said, there are plenty of fat and/or ugly 20-something/30-something men with a hot wife/girlfriend (who could easily ride the cock carousel if she wanted to)

 

[thedarkerone]

whenever someone says that i just ask them what betabuxxing is a jobless highschooler doing, the betabux cope is insane lul, as if foids need to suck a random nobodies dick to survive its 2026 not 1826

 

[BlackFag]

Don't get me wrong; it is true there are a lot of fat and/or ugly middle-aged/older men who are only with a foid because he's a provider for a foid who's aged out of the ability to ride the cock carousel.

That being said, there are plenty of fat and/or ugly 20-something/30-something men with a hot wife/girlfriend (who could easily ride the cock carousel if she wanted to)

whenever someone says that i just ask them what betabuxxing is a jobless highschooler doing, the betabux cope is insane lul, as if foids need to suck a random nobodies dick to survive its 2026 not 1826

more often then not those "ugly" men are just average (MTN)
and have enough social competence to somehow get lucky enough to beat hypergamy

this does not really change much though
as most incels inherently lack said social skills and are below average (Sub 3 to MLTN)

 

[thedarkerone]

more often then not those "ugly" men are just average (MTN)
and have enough social competence to somehow get lucky enough to beat hypergamy

this does not really change much though
as most incels inherently lack said social skills and are below average (Sub 3 to MLTN)

im not some faggot who calls mtns ugly. when i say ugly i mean low ltn or subhuman or subbacteria

 

[BlackFag]

im not some faggot who calls mtns ugly. when i say ugly i mean low ltn or subhuman or subbacteria

its inherently impossible for a sub 5 to actually get into said relantionships

a LTN can MAYBE get lucky and hit big
but not really anything under sub 5 actually does succeed in getting women

 

[thedarkerone]

its inherently impossible for a sub 5 to actually get into said relantionships

a LTN can MAYBE get lucky and hit big
but not really anything under sub 5 actually does succeed in getting women

where are you talking about

 

[BadLuck7892]

whenever someone says that i just ask them what betabuxxing is a jobless highschooler doing, the betabux cope is insane lul, as if foids need to suck a random nobodies dick to survive its 2026 not 1826

You're right, they don't need to suck dick to survive.

Which makes it all the more alarming they'd rather suck some fugly neurotypical's dick than suck a HTN autist like me's dick.

 

[BadLuck7892]

more often then not those "ugly" men are just average (MTN)
and have enough social competence to somehow get lucky enough to beat hypergamy

this does not really change much though
as most incels inherently lack said social skills and are below average (Sub 3 to MLTN)

Wrong on all counts.

This obese guy I went to high school with is undoubtedly sub-5 (a HTN female coworker said "ew" when I pulled up a picture of him) and incredibly strange (I've mentioned on here before that he repeatedly said he wanted to kill babies in high school). So you couldn't even say he has good social skills. Yet he has a hot wife. How? Because despite being incredibly strange, he's at least NT

Another example is this male coworker. He's fat and bald (when I first got this job, he was already entirely bald up top at 28). Yet he ended up dating a hottie we work with. He's now married to some hottie from outside of work. There's no way you can say some fat guy who was entirely bald at 28 is MTN. He's undoubtedly ugly, just like the other example I gave. Yet once again, being NT is all that matters to foids.

As for your claim incels tend to be ugly and have bad social skills, you're only right about the bad social skills part (our social skills are even worse than my former classmate who repeatedly said he wanted to kill babies). Plenty of incels have good looks. Elliot Rodger (the mascot of the incel movement) was a HTN. I'm also a HTN, along with many posters on here. Our autism is what holds us back.

 

[BadLuck7892]

its inherently impossible for a sub 5 to actually get into said relantionships

a LTN can MAYBE get lucky and hit big
but not really anything under sub 5 actually does succeed in getting women

This fatso is clearly a sub-5 (and yeah, since I'm all about privacy, I did a reverse image search to confirm the picture won't trace back to him)

Yet he has a hot wife

 

[BadLuck7892]

Wrong on all counts.

This obese guy I went to high school with is undoubtedly sub-5 (a HTN female coworker said "ew" when I pulled up a picture of him) and incredibly strange (I've mentioned on here before that he repeatedly said he wanted to kill babies in high school). So you couldn't even say he has good social skills. Yet he has a hot wife. How? Because despite being incredibly strange, he's at least NT

Another example is this male coworker. He's fat and bald (when I first got this job, he was already entirely bald up top at 28). Yet he ended up dating a hottie we work with. He's now married to some hottie from outside of work. There's no way you can say some fat guy who was entirely bald at 28 is MTN. He's undoubtedly ugly, just like the other example I gave. Yet once again, being NT is all that matters to foids.

As for your claim incels tend to be ugly and have bad social skills, you're only right about the bad social skills part (our social skills are even worse than my former classmate who repeatedly said he wanted to kill babies). Plenty of incels have good looks. Elliot Rodger (the mascot of the incel movement) was a HTN. I'm also a HTN, along with many posters on here. Our autism is what holds us back.

TLDR:

I've personally known multiple fat ugly sub-5 dudes who've gotten hotties

On the other hand, Elliot Rodger had good looks, as do many incels on this forum (myself included)

@BlackFag

 

[ostri99]

whenever someone says that i just ask them what betabuxxing is a jobless highschooler doing, the betabux cope is insane lul, as if foids need to suck a random nobodies dick to survive its 2026 not 1826

they still suck random nobodies dick, just not exclusively to survive

 

[Lefty Rankin]

Don't get me wrong; it is true there are a lot of fat and/or ugly middle-aged/older men who are only with a foid because he's a provider for a foid who's aged out of the ability to ride the cock carousel.

That being said, there are plenty of fat and/or ugly 20-something/30-something men with a hot wife/girlfriend (who could easily ride the cock carousel if she wanted to)

Most married men in the Western world are pathetic and domesticated though. It's very apparent.

 

[Lefty Rankin]

its inherently impossible for a sub 5 to actually get into said relantionships

a LTN can MAYBE get lucky and hit big
but not really anything under sub 5 actually does succeed in getting women

I gets me women.

 

[Hurly saint]

Don't get me wrong; it is true there are a lot of fat and/or ugly middle-aged/older men who are only with a foid because he's a provider for a foid who's aged out of the ability to ride the cock carousel.

That being said, there are plenty of fat and/or ugly 20-something/30-something men with a hot wife/girlfriend (who could easily ride the cock carousel if she wanted to)

Idk bro this system confusing asf norm it depends on where the foids from

 

[Lefty Rankin]

TLDR:

I've personally known multiple fat ugly sub-5 dudes who've gotten hotties

On the other hand, Elliot Rodger had good looks, as do many incels on this forum (myself included)

@BlackFag

I've always said that the blackpill exists but it doesn't have to be a limiting factor in your life.

 

[ostri99]

Wrong on all counts.

This obese guy I went to high school with is undoubtedly sub-5 (a HTN female coworker said "ew" when I pulled up a picture of him) and incredibly strange (I've mentioned on here before that he repeatedly said he wanted to kill babies in high school). So you couldn't even say he has good social skills. Yet he has a hot wife. How? Because despite being incredibly strange, he's at least NT

Another example is this male coworker. He's fat and bald (when I first got this job, he was already entirely bald up top at 28). Yet he ended up dating a hottie we work with. He's now married to some hottie from outside of work. There's no way you can say some fat guy who was entirely bald at 28 is MTN. He's undoubtedly ugly, just like the other example I gave. Yet once again, being NT is all that matters to foids.

As for your claim incels tend to be ugly and have bad social skills, you're only right about the bad social skills part (our social skills are even worse than my former classmate who repeatedly said he wanted to kill babies). Plenty of incels have good looks. Elliot Rodger (the mascot of the incel movement) was a HTN. I'm also a HTN, along with many posters on here. Our autism is what holds us back.

aren't autists supposed to be repetitive, self indulgent and unable to distinguish between social norms? if you're really unable to distinguish how you type in online spaces, behave within your mental sandbox/your house, and behave around other hominids in the streets. you'd be just as vocal and complex in any enviroment. surely you aren't much as a retard as the first guy proposed, therefore to voice your non nt-ness wouldn't be above or below it.

 

[BadLuck7892]

Most married men in the Western world are pathetic and domesticated though. It's very apparent.

In that case, the fact foids won't be my wife is even more alarming.

In other words, I'm so low on the dating hierarchy, I'm not even worthy of being some domestic pathetic husband

 

[BadLuck7892]

I gets me women.

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In all fairness, East Asian foids worship White dick

 

[160cmcurry]

 

[BadLuck7892]

aren't autists supposed to be repetitive, self indulgent and unable to distinguish between social norms? if you're really unable to distinguish how you type in online spaces, behave within your mental sandbox/your house, and behave around other hominids in the streets. you'd be just as vocal and complex in any enviroment. surely you aren't much as a retard as the first guy proposed, therefore to voice your non nt-ness wouldn't be above or below it.

Yeah, us autists are repetitive, self-indulgent, and unfamiliar with social norms.

 

[Lefty Rankin]

In that case, the fact foids won't be my wife is even more alarming.

In other words, I'm so low on the dating hierarchy, I'm not even worthy of being some domestic pathetic husband

Women aren't attracted to men who are domesticated.

 

[Lefty Rankin]

In all fairness, East Asian foids worship White dick

Not that one. She never liked foreigners.

 

[ostri99]

Yeah, us autists are repetitive, self-indulgent, and unfamiliar with social norms.

Then there's no such thing as a possible social rearrangement/norm that would prevent you from being reiterative about yourself. and what is yourself but your current fixations stuck on your autist mind that you need to repeat over and over again. So called NT human interaction is yet another form of autism, perhaps dubbed the official one but not more difficult or easier than so called NDness. I mean, the concept of money could've only come from the mind of a larping autist

 

[neurodivergent]

average (MTN)

MTN is not average, even if you want to consider 5 average which is a stretch, that isn't MTN.

its inherently impossible for a sub 5 to actually get into said relantionships

a LTN can MAYBE get lucky and hit big
but not really anything under sub 5 actually does succeed in getting women

Nobody uses sub5 as 5th percentile before anyone criticizes this post. Sub 5, meaning below 5/10, is, by definition, HLTN and below.

 

[Alienmaxxer]

I am a 24-year-old intelligent artistic chadlite autist. I've never had a girlfriend. This is despite trying with both NT girls and autistic girls time after time. For the latter, I have tried with around six other autistic girls.

Usually we stop talking two weeks to a month after meeting, and this is independent of any signs they give me that they like me and will stay, no matter how strong. They could compliment me every ten seconds calling me cute in person, or text me for hours every day, or tell me they'd never leave me, or want to have sex soon after meeting me. But then a few weeks go by and the cliche comments come out like "I'm not ready for a relationship" or "I'm avoidant" or some other excuse. Inevitably, they ghost me or block me on everything.

Absolutely brutal. I don't even know what I can do to improve my situation. I've already ascended from LTN to chadlite years ago, I tried dating autistic women instead over and over, I tried working out intensely for some years, I'm already an interesting, passionate, and rational developed person... what am I supposed to do. Ascend to chad? Read another 100 books? Start working out intensely again? Find giga-autistic girls?

How is it fair to be born like this? Autism is nightmare mode. It's as if you took a normal person, and decreased all social relationships, past and future, by two levels.

 

[BadLuck7892]

MTN is not average, even if you want to consider 5 average which is a stretch, that isn't MTN.

Nobody uses sub5 as 5th percentile before anyone criticizes this post. Sub 5, meaning below 5/10, is, by definition, HLTN and below.

Umm, 5 (being exactly halfway to 10) is average/MTN

 

[BadLuck7892]

I am a 24-year-old intelligent artistic chadlite autist. I've never had a girlfriend. This is despite trying with both NT girls and autistic girls time after time. For the latter, I have tried with around six other autistic girls.

Usually we stop talking two weeks to a month after meeting, and this is independent of any signs they give me that they like me and will stay, no matter how strong. They could compliment me every ten seconds calling me cute in person, or text me for hours every day, or tell me they'd never leave me, or want to have sex soon after meeting me. But then a few weeks go by and the cliche comments come out like "I'm not ready for a relationship" or "I'm avoidant" or some other excuse. Inevitably, they ghost me or block me on everything.

Absolutely brutal. I don't even know what I can do to improve my situation. I've already ascended from LTN to chadlite years ago, I tried dating autistic women instead over and over, I tried working out intensely for some years, I'm already an interesting, passionate, and rational developed person... what am I supposed to do. Ascend to chad? Read another 100 books? Start working out intensely again? Find giga-autistic girls?

How is it fair to be born like this? Autism is nightmare mode. It's as if you took a normal person, and decreased all social relationships, past and future, by two levels.

If you were born a decade sooner, you would have had better luck.

I'm a 34 year old autistic HTN. The market sucks right now for autists (so I haven't had free sex in 5 years)

That being said, from age 20-23, I racked up 8 free partners. How? Because the online hookup market wasn't oversaturated yet (oh yeah, and one of those free partners at 23 was a fugly homeless foid who followed me home)

Since the online hookup market sucks for autists now (and the in person market sucks for autists also), there unfortunately is no solution.

Ascending to Chad isn't possible. You either are a Chad or you're not. Chadlite unfortunately isn't enough to offset the autism. Being a Chad is what it takes to offset autism in the current market.

Your other ideas won't work either. Even giga-autistic foids don't want us.

It's not fair to be born like this. As for why autists exist: Evolution hasn't caught up yet. For the vast majority of history, being an autist wasn't such a death sentence for a man's dating/sex life (hence why natural selection hasn't weeded autists out of the gene pool yet)

 

[neurodivergent]

Umm, 5 (being exactly halfway to 10) is average/MTN

5 is not MTN. It's the lowest of LMTNs

 

[BadLuck7892]

5 is not MTN. It's the lowest of LMTNs

Again, 5 is halfway to 10

In what universe is the exact midpoint somehow anything other than mid-tier normie?

 

[neurodivergent]

Again, 5 is halfway to 10

In what universe is the exact midpoint somehow anything other than mid-tier normie?

You really don't understand rating, do you? 5-5.25 is LMTN. 5.25-5.75 is MMTN (better known as MTN). 5.75-5.99... is HMTN. If 5 is average on your scale, you're admitting LMTN is average.

 

[BadLuck7892]

You really don't understand rating, do you? 5-5.25 is LMTN. 5.25-5.75 is MMTN (better known as MTN). 5.75-5.99... is HMTN. If 5 is average on your scale, you're admitting LMTN is average.

I suppose everyone's rating is different

I view anything in the 5s as mid-tier normie

I view anything in the 6s or 7s as high-tier normie

I view anything in the 8s as Chadlite

I view 10 (or anything in the 9s) as Chad

 

[Alienmaxxer]

I'm a 34 year old autistic HTN. The market sucks right now for autists (so I haven't had free sex in 5 years)

I can only imagine with age taking away looks and girls wanting to "settle down" it gets even worse as you get older.

That being said, from age 20-23, I racked up 8 free partners. How? Because the online hookup market wasn't oversaturated yet (oh yeah, and one of those free partners at 23 was a fugly homeless foid who followed me home)

I myself got 5 online in the modern economy, all neurodivergent (though they weren't partners or girlfriends or anything, just people I slept with a few times, and the longest lasted a month and a half). Each time I would get a bunch of matches and 99+ likes, but it literally doesn't matter. I took a break from it a few of those years because it was brutal getting ghosted and flaked on again and again. It's over for us in person ofc, since to even go out requires friends. Even if you take pregab and go out, you are going to stick out like a sore thumb and clearly not belong. Everyone else will be in a friend group which will make interacting with them extremely awkward.

The other day I went to thrift for clothes and every other person there was with a group of their friends. I almost started crying and left after five minutes. Brutal.

Ascending to Chad isn't possible.

Yeah. Even with surgery, I'm only 5'10. I'm not going to give up because there is a small minority of autists who it does work out for somehow, I just have to figure out the pattern (beyond sheer luck).

I've had the idea of starting to cosplay, because from my research a lot of girls that are into that are also autistic. Or dress in a more alternative way. It seems female autism is way more fashion-based. But then again I'm 24, time is ticking on all of this.

It's not fair to be born like this. As for why autists exist: Evolution hasn't caught up yet. For the vast majority of history, being an autist wasn't such a death sentence for a man's dating/sex life (hence why natural selection hasn't weeded autists out of the gene pool yet)

It's a shame, because we bring something to the table too that normies can't (e.g. Newton) and are something of a driver of culture (even now, modern youth culture is hating Jews and looksmaxxing). It's just not enough to overcome the severe social handicaps.

 

[Philalethes]

Don't get me wrong; it is true there are a lot of fat and/or ugly middle-aged/older men who are only with a foid because he's a provider for a foid who's aged out of the ability to ride the cock carousel.

That being said, there are plenty of fat and/or ugly 20-something/30-something men with a hot wife/girlfriend (who could easily ride the cock carousel if she wanted to)

I've been waiting for that since I was 15. It won't come.
There won't be a day in which your money will buy off girls. Maybe when you're 70, some 0.0001 % of girls who are already prostitutes will try to scam you.
Other than that. Nah

 

[Luquier]

You’re not a HTN

I am a 24-year-old intelligent artistic chadlite autist. I've never had a girlfriend. This is despite trying with both NT girls and autistic girls time after time. For the latter, I have tried with around six other autistic girls.

Usually we stop talking two weeks to a month after meeting, and this is independent of any signs they give me that they like me and will stay, no matter how strong. They could compliment me every ten seconds calling me cute in person, or text me for hours every day, or tell me they'd never leave me, or want to have sex soon after meeting me. But then a few weeks go by and the cliche comments come out like "I'm not ready for a relationship" or "I'm avoidant" or some other excuse. Inevitably, they ghost me or block me on everything.

Absolutely brutal. I don't even know what I can do to improve my situation. I've already ascended from LTN to chadlite years ago, I tried dating autistic women instead over and over, I tried working out intensely for some years, I'm already an interesting, passionate, and rational developed person... what am I supposed to do. Ascend to chad? Read another 100 books? Start working out intensely again? Find giga-autistic girls?

How is it fair to be born like this? Autism is nightmare mode. It's as if you took a normal person, and decreased all social relationships, past and future, by two levels.

Again you’re just ugly

 

[Alienmaxxer]

You’re not a HTN


Again you’re just ugly

According to multiple users here, I am chadlite. I have had 99+ on multiple tinder accounts, and get approached when I go out with friends (the few times of the year I do).

 

[Luquier]

According to multiple users here, I am chadlite. I have had 99+ on multiple tinder accounts, and get approached when I go out with friends (the few times of the year I do).

Ok then so you’re gl and have dating options

Looks > NT

 

[Alienmaxxer]

Ok then so you’re gl and have dating options

Looks > NT

Read what I said. I can have sex every now and then and go on dates, but it's very short-lived and I'm unable to get a girlfriend no matter what I do essentially.

 

[BadLuck7892]

I can only imagine with age taking away looks and girls wanting to "settle down" it gets even worse as you get older.

I myself got 5 online in the modern economy, all neurodivergent (though they weren't partners or girlfriends or anything, just people I slept with a few times, and the longest lasted a month and a half). Each time I would get a bunch of matches and 99+ likes, but it literally doesn't matter. I took a break from it a few of those years because it was brutal getting ghosted and flaked on again and again. It's over for us in person ofc, since to even go out requires friends. Even if you take pregab and go out, you are going to stick out like a sore thumb and clearly not belong. Everyone else will be in a friend group which will make interacting with them extremely awkward.

The other day I went to thrift for clothes and every other person there was with a group of their friends. I almost started crying and left after five minutes. Brutal.

Yeah. Even with surgery, I'm only 5'10. I'm not going to give up because there is a small minority of autists who it does work out for somehow, I just have to figure out the pattern (beyond sheer luck).

I've had the idea of starting to cosplay, because from my research a lot of girls that are into that are also autistic. Or dress in a more alternative way. It seems female autism is way more fashion-based. But then again I'm 24, time is ticking on all of this.

It's a shame, because we bring something to the table too that normies can't (e.g. Newton) and are something of a driver of culture (even now, modern youth culture is hating Jews and looksmaxxing). It's just not enough to overcome the severe social handicaps.

Here I was thinking the reason I could get laid for free online in my younger days was because the online market back then was easier in general to get laid.

Hearing you've gotten 5 partners online in recent years (and you're 24) makes me think getting laid for youngins online is still easy now (and the reason I can no longer get laid online isn't that the online market has become impossible overall; I've merely aged out of being able to get easy online sex)

 

[BadLuck7892]

You’re not a HTN


Again you’re just ugly

You're oblivious to how much being an autist holds a dude back

Even a HTN autist will struggle

 

[BadLuck7892]

Ok then so you’re gl and have dating options

Looks > NT

NT>looks

 

[Luquier]

You're oblivious to how much being an autist holds a dude back

Even a HTN autist will struggle

Looks gets you the options then autism fumbles it

An unattractive NT won’t have options to capitalise on to begin with

 

[BadLuck7892]

Looks gets you the options then autism fumbles it

An unattractive NT won’t have options to capitalise on to begin with

Ugly neurotypical men can get options through a social circle

Foids will ultimately fuck an ugly NT man over a HTN autistic man

A HTN autist having options but fumbling describes me perfectly

 

[mrdouchebag]

Betabuxxing is a viable mating strategy. It gets too much hate, but even betabuxxing has its pros. Men have been leveraging their wealth and status in order to fuck and reproduce with more women and more importantly more beautiful women than what they could have otherwise since the dawn of fucking time.

The true delusion is when you see some redpiller that is porking 3s and 4s, larping as a stud that gets "genuine desire" from these women, while he criticizes and calls some middle aged wealthy quasimodo a "betabuxxer" for marrying and reproducing multiple times with some model.

The litmus test is this:
Is the middle aged/ugly/fat/whatever betabuxxer fucking and/or reproducing with a better looking woman than you?
If yes, then shut the fuck up, bro.
It's that simple really.

 

[BadLuck7892]

Betabuxxing is a viable mating strategy. It gets too much hate, but even betabuxxing has its pros. Men have been leveraging their wealth and status in order to fuck and reproduce with more women and more importantly more beautiful women than what they could have otherwise since the dawn of fucking time.

The true delusion is when you see some redpiller that is porking 3s and 4s, larping as a stud that gets "genuine desire" from these women, while he criticizes and calls some middle aged wealthy quasimodo a "betabuxxer" for marrying and reproducing multiple times with some model.

The litmus test is this:
Is the middle aged/ugly/fat/whatever betabuxxer fucking and/or reproducing with a better looking woman than you?
If yes, then shut the fuck up, bro.
It's that simple really.

Even in my prime at 23, I had an affair with a married 45 year old obese foid

I'd prefer her over some young thin hot foid

 

[BadLuck7892]

The 45 year old obese married foid was with me out of genuine desire, @mrdouchebag

That being said, I'd be glad if an obese older foid was with me for my money as well

Hell, I've paid an obese foid in her 50s for sex (and licked her cooch until she climaxed right after she took a shit)

Younger foids just don't interest me

 

[Alienmaxxer]

Here I was thinking the reason I could get laid for free online in my younger days was because the online market back then was easier in general to get laid.

It really isn't easy, I wish it was. I can't speak for your time, but it is very hard now. It's just not impossible. As an autist, HTN won't be enough. On my worse accounts where my pictures were closer to HTN I didn't get laid.

Looks gets you the options then autism fumbles it

An unattractive NT won’t have options to capitalise on to begin with

I have nothing to capitalize on. I just fail at a later stage than the unattractive person. It's not like there is a correct string of words that I'm just not using. They just detect that there is something off about you, and it's over, and you are no longer considered a serious option.

Not to mention like @BadLuck7892 said NTs have social circle and are able to fit in at third places like the bar since they have a friend group. This gives them longer time and access to a wider range of girls than autists. That's how most people find a partner. Autists don't have social circles and stick out like a sore thumb in third places.

Foids will ultimately fuck an ugly NT man over a HTN autistic man

I'm sure at your age this is the case, as at 34 getting fucked and getting into a relationship are more correlated. At my age, I don't know if that's the case... I'd agree that they'd rather get into a relationship with an ugly NT, but idk about sex.

 

[Alienmaxxer]

You're oblivious to how much being an autist holds a dude back

Even a HTN autist will struggle

Interesting you don't drink either because of the taste. To me it tastes completely disgusting, but as a result I can't join in on normie alcoholic stuff and alienate them even more. Over for my brain.

 

[BadLuck7892]

It really isn't easy, I wish it was. I can't speak for your time, but it is very hard now. It's just not impossible. As an autist, HTN won't be enough. On my worse accounts where my pictures were closer to HTN I didn't get laid.

I have nothing to capitalize on. I just fail at a later stage than the unattractive person. It's not like there is a correct string of words that I'm just not using. They just detect that there is something off about you, and it's over, and you are no longer considered a serious option.

Not to mention like @BadLuck7892 said NTs have social circle and are able to fit in at third places like the bar since they have a friend group. This gives them longer time and access to a wider range of girls than autists. That's how most people find a partner. Autists don't have social circles and stick out like a sore thumb in third places.

I'm sure at your age this is the case, as at 34 getting fucked and getting into a relationship are more correlated. At my age, I don't know if that's the case... I'd agree that they'd rather get into a relationship with an ugly NT, but idk about sex.

Even when I was in my prime, it wasn't necessarily easy. In the Spring 2012 semester, I spent maybe 30 hours a week on Craigslist...and only got four 1 night stands the whole semester.

A semester is about 16 weeks. So to calculate how much time I spent on Craigslist: (30 hours a week)x(16 weeks)=480 hours

So that means for every 1 night stand, I had to invest more than 100 hours. Yet if I was NT, I could have gotten laid at a college party within a few hours.

I agree that in most cases there isn't one specific thing we said wrong; the foid just senses there's something off about us.

You're right, foids would rather get into a relationship with an ugly NT man than a HTN autist. As for casual sex, that's where HTN autists do somewhat better than we do at getting/keeping relationships. Yet even then, an ugly NT man can often charm his way into casual sex (plus, just like social circles help an ugly NT man get a relationship, social circles can also help an ugly NT man get a casual lay)

 

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Interesting you don't drink either because of the taste. To me it tastes completely disgusting, but as a result I can't join in on normie alcoholic stuff and alienate them even more. Over for my brain.

I like margaritas. Just not beer.

I've gone to bars with normies before (neighbors). Typically it turned out to be a total disappointment.

Even the 1 time a foid at a bar took a liking to me (a hot 23 year old blonde when I was 30), she would have been too much effort. So I paid a 62 year old brown-toothed drug addicted escort for sex the next day