The ideal age to have children

[JohnDoe]

My kid was born in Knoxville Tennessee in 2021 and we've been living in Michigan since then. I support my wife and him COMPLETELY on my own with absolutely no family or government assistance to rely on working at a fast food joint only 3 days a week. My wife's a full time stay at home mother, I've got four days off every week, and we're renting a 2 bedroom apartment in the center of town for $950 a month. I'm far from living like a slave.

Extremely based and surprising coming from you. I always thought you were some fulltime wagecuck or NEETbux abuser. Only 3 days a week is good stuff, enough free time to actually spend with your family and doing what you want. Pay must be decent if rent is 950 + bills and other expenses. That's kinda what i want to do but most places just want to hire you full time which i don't want to do. Oh and rent for 2 bed house here is 900 british pounds in some literally who place in the north-west of England.

 

[JohnDoe]

holy fuck this thread is suifuel. i am so far behind when compared to my peers and other family members. ppl are breeding like crazy and here i am

You aren't alone, it's a wake-up call but there are quite a few oldcels like me who haven't gotten a family yet

 

[Lefty Rankin]

Extremely based and surprising coming from you. I always thought you were some fulltime wagecuck or NEETbux abuser. Only 3 days a week is good stuff, enough free time to actually spend with your family and doing what you want. Pay must be decent if rent is 950 + bills and other expenses. That's kinda what i want to do but most places just want to hire you full time which i don't want to do. Oh and rent for 2 bed house here is 900 british pounds in some literally who place in the north-west of England.

I make $19.95 an hour working 13 hours a day Monday - Wednesday. I'm about to get another job though working at a nursing home for the next few months so we can finally leave and go back abroad.

 

[JohnDoe]

I make $19.95 an hour working 13 hours a day Monday - Wednesday. I'm about to get another job though working at a nursing home for the next few months so we can finally leave and go back abroad.

Damn they pay 20 bucks for fastfood in America, no wonder you can work that and be okay, although 13 hour shifts must be hard standing serving goyslop all day long but it's worth it to get 4 days off. It's similar to nurses and their 12h shifts for 3 days a week. You going back to east asia/your wifes home country huh?

 

[Lefty Rankin]

Damn they pay 20 bucks for fastfood in America, no wonder you can work that and be okay, although 13 hour shifts must be hard standing serving goyslop all day long but it's worth it to get 4 days off. It's similar to nurses and their 12h shifts for 3 days a week. You going back to east asia/your wifes home country huh?

Nah, elsewhere. China's no good to live in anymore. Eastern Europe or Cambodia.

They don't pay that much usually. I know how to ask for raises. Got a bit lucky too. There was a mass exodus of employees and I stayed.

 

[Pakicel]

Having kids is cope unless you can ensure they are white chadlites with trust fund.

Good luck trying to delusionmax truecel kids once they get blackpilled and start asking for the rope.

 

[lifeless]

35+ anyone saying under is retarded

 

[JohnDoe]

Having kids is cope unless you can ensure they are white chadlites with trust fund.

Good luck trying to delusionmax truecel kids once they get blackpilled and start asking for the rope.

It's cope because you say it is? yh it doesn't work that way. You may think that way but that's just your opinion, it ain't the truth and it certainly isn't how i or many people think. Muh white chadlite trustfund kids, who cares, you need to grow up and stop projecting this nihilist worldview onto everything and everyone.

I don't care, i will try my best to get as good looking of a woman as possible to have kids with, worst case my kids will end up average, best case they are good looking. What makes you say kids will be truecel? statistically most kids are average, anyhow your entire thought process and perspective on life is completely fucked up and wrong. But it's expected of someone who doesn't believe in God, they naturally have a pessimistic, nihilist worldview and are just negative all around. These kinds of people you don't want around you, they're just bad energy to be around. Each to their own but i don't agree with you.

 

[JohnDoe]

35+ anyone saying under is retarded

For the man? that's debateable

 

[lifeless]

For the man? that's debateable

Yes,
No its not.

 

[Pakicel]

It's cope because you say it is? yh it doesn't work that way. You may think that way but that's just your opinion, it ain't the truth and it certainly isn't how i or many people think. Muh white chadlite trustfund kids, who cares, you need to grow up and stop projecting this nihilist worldview onto everything and everyone.

I don't care, i will try my best to get as good looking of a woman as possible to have kids with, worst case my kids will end up average, best case they are good looking. What makes you say kids will be truecel? statistically most kids are average, anyhow your entire thought process and perspective on life is completely fucked up and wrong. But it's expected of someone who doesn't believe in God, they naturally have a pessimistic, nihilist worldview and are just negative all around. These kinds of people you don't want around you, they're just bad energy to be around. Each to their own but i don't agree with you.

Well. You can force a paki Stacy to marry you and rape her an unlimited number of times so I guess you will get what you want.

But there’s always going to be the risk that your kids will end up truecel. And unless you ascend in your career, they might even be poor as well.

Just be prepared for them to get blackpilled. Make sure you have a great strategy to ensure that this never happens in the first place.

 

[JohnDoe]

Well. You can force a paki Stacy to marry you and rape her an unlimited number of times so I guess you will get what you want.

But there’s always going to be the risk that your kids will end up truecel. And unless you ascend in your career, they might even be poor as well.

Just be prepared for them to get blackpilled. Make sure you have a great strategy to ensure that this never happens in the first place.

Why do you keep doing this? i've told you before not to project your rape fantasies onto others, it's completely false. We've been over this like 20 times over the past year and you still keep saying it for some reason. ???
You can force a paki stacy to marry you? i know you aren't saying this seriously, especially since you know the landscape and situation in both countries since you've lived in both, you are not marrying a paki stacy just because of passport, every retarded paki here has a passport, do you think they married a stacy they got from back home? not even close. None of them did. And you know my situation but still gaslight me into thinking it's going to work out when we both know it's not going to end well for me. No point thinking so far ahead anyways when the first step seems extremely difficult to achieve for me anyways.

If i could marry a paki stacy, why would i not go do that next month? it doesn't work like that. If you want to discuss this over PM we can, i usually don't like discussing such things about our country publicly.

 

[Pakicel]

Why do you keep doing this? i've told you before not to project your rape fantasies onto others, it's completely false. We've been over this like 20 times over the past year and you still keep saying it for some reason. ???

Not projecting my rape fantasies. I’m highly against it. But tbh, I’d prefer you bred with a paki Stacy if you don’t want to use chad sperm. I care about minimising the suffering of future generations so I hope that your kids end up at least HTN.

You can force a paki stacy to marry you? i know you aren't saying this seriously, especially since you know the landscape and situation in both countries since you've lived in both, you are not marrying a paki stacy just because of passport, every retarded paki here has a passport, do you think they married a stacy they got from back home? not even close. None of them did. And you know my situation but still gaslight me into thinking it's going to work out when we both know it's not going to end well for me. No point thinking so far ahead anyways when the first step seems extremely difficult to achieve for me anyways.

If you get a decent paying job then yes. Plus your dad is rich so that increases your SMV quite a bit. You are seriously overestimating the average arrangemarriagemaxxer.

If i could marry a paki stacy, why would i not go do that next month? it doesn't work like that. If you want to discuss this over PM we can, i usually don't like discussing such things about our country publicly.

Idk.

Make a profile on some group for arrangemarriagemaxxers. Add a fake job and mention your dad has property. I bet there’d be many parents who would pressure the fuck out of their daughters to marry you because of that fact alone.

 

[asdvek]

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Damn. I see people on tv buying 300-600k houses just to have fun in in the winter and shit

 

[manmadesymbol]

Let's say you marry an 18 year old woman.
children at 20
Grandchildren at 40
Great grandchildren at 60
Great great grandchildren at 80
5 generations of family together. This is what you call winning at life kids.

That's how it's supposed to be. Really don't understand how women are having kids at 30+. It's so retarded. And yes before anyone says it, women can have children before 20 but that's not my point. This is just something for all the youngcels to think about. Find a virgin wife and marry/reproduce young. Aim for a minimum of 4 kids, ideally more.

Fuck a 13 year old woman.
Children at 13 3/4
Grandchildren at 27,5
Great grandchildren at 41,25
Great great grandchildren at 55
Great great great grandchildren at 68,75
Great great great great grandchildren at 82,5
Great great great great great grandchildren at 96,25
Great great great great great great grandchildren at 110
9 generations of family together. This is what you call winning at life kids.

 

[buddhistking]

stop procreating.

end the suffering.

nuke the planet.

Life shouldn't exist

Life shouldn’t exist in this or any other universe; there is no need for it. Human life is a tragedy that is imposed on us without our consent, and that forcing a child to live here is the biggest crime. There is no dignity or some higher purpose to suffering whatsoever, despite what the general...

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Thank you

 

[buddhistking]

Fucking retards like this think having a kid is like buying a baby doll or some shit i hate humans i hope you choke on a paki cock and suffocate slowly to death

 

[qazw]

this is unfortunately impossible for the vast majority of men

 

[JohnDoe]

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[JohnDoe]

this is unfortunately impossible for the vast majority of men

Why? It's entirely possible, you just need to want it bad enough.

 

[avaragecel]

You should only have a lot of children if your the Clint Eastwood equivalent of your race. Let the eugenics era begin.

 

[qazw]

Why? It's entirely possible, you just need to want it bad enough.

Finding a virgin wife - extremely hard since most women already have a bodycount over 5 by the time they reach age 20. Today, its already hard enough to find a girlfriend, the requirements are HTN+, 6 foot and NT. Over half the men at age 20 are virgins because they can’t meet these requirements.

Have 4 children at age 20 - extremely hard because at age 20, most women are at university, which doesn’t offer maternity leave. There also seems to be a social stigma about having children early in life.

Also 4 children is extremely expensive. A quick google shows that it costs £166,000 to raise a child to age 18. Therefore it would cost £664,000 for 4 children. You’d either have to have rich parents, a really good wageslave job or an extremely frugal lifestyle (which is going to cause stunted growth).

You’d also have to find a woman who is willing to make 4 children. In this day and age, women only seem to care about getting dogs and cats.


The only viable way for this to be done is by geomaxxing and having an ethnic wife. But this causes mixed babies who are going to end up incels and you won’t be able to have grandkids. You should have added to your post that the parents should both be the same race.

 

[JohnDoe]

Finding a virgin wife - extremely hard since most women already have a bodycount over 5 by the time they reach age 20. Today, its already hard enough to find a girlfriend, the requirements are HTN+, 6 foot and NT. Over half the men at age 20 are virgins because they can’t meet these requirements.

Have 4 children at age 20 - extremely hard because at age 20, most women are at university, which doesn’t offer maternity leave. There also seems to be a social stigma about having children early in life.

Also 4 children is extremely expensive. A quick google shows that it costs £166,000 to raise a child to age 18. Therefore it would cost £664,000 for 4 children. You’d either have to have rich parents, a really good wageslave job or an extremely frugal lifestyle (which is going to cause stunted growth).

You’d also have to find a woman who is willing to make 4 children. In this day and age, women only seem to care about getting dogs and cats.


The only viable way for this to be done is by geomaxxing and having an ethnic wife. But this causes mixed babies who are going to end up incels and you won’t be able to have grandkids. You should have added to your post that the parents should both be the same race.

I guess this is more of a white person problem, ethnics just find a young virgin wife and bring her to the west and start breeding her. Problem solved

 

[Foreverbrad]

How will you afford this?
Also you really think most people in today's generation are mature enough to undertake the responsibility of raising another human?

Most people will only reach that level of maturity 30+
And financially speaking they'll only reach it 30+ too, where thumb of rule you should have saved 1 years worth of salary in addition to having a stable roof over your head/ car etc

Even that is an underestimate of the finances needed to give a child a decent life. They need to have the latest iPhone, designers brands, no expense spared on their health, luxury car at 16, private school, top university. Otherwise what’s the fucking point to raise another incel or normie at best?

 

[qazw]

I guess this is more of a white person problem, ethnics just find a young virgin wife and bring her to the west and start breeding her. Problem solved

Hmm tbh it is much easier to achieve in third world countries. In first world countries, it is extremely difficult

 

[qazw]

Even that is an underestimate of the finances needed to give a child a decent life. They need to have the latest iPhone, designers brands, no expense spared on their health, luxury car at 16, private school, top university. Otherwise what’s the fucking point to raise another incel or normie at best?

Genetics, diet and sports are the main things that matter for raising children.

Material items like iphones, designer brands and luxury cars are cope. They will still be incel or normie if they are ugly, short and non-NT.

Private schools and top unis are also not going to help. Tbh public schools are better for making your kids more NT. Intelligence is overrated, its not really useful for anything. Most jobs care more about how NT and attractive you are, your qualifications are just the minimum requirement. Nowadays if an employer wants someone who is intelligent but don’t care about their personality, they are just going to outsource the job to workers living in India.

If I ever have kids, I’m going to make them go to public schools and then put them on an apprenticeship at age 16.

 

[Foreverbrad]

Genetics, diet and sports are the main things that matter for raising children.

Material items like iphones, designer brands and luxury cars are cope. They will still be incel or normie if they are ugly, short and non-NT.

Private schools and top unis are also not going to help. Tbh public schools are better for making your kids more NT. Intelligence is overrated, its not really useful for anything. Most jobs care more about how NT and attractive you are, your qualifications are just the minimum requirement. Nowadays if an employer wants someone who is intelligent but don’t care about their personality, they are just going to outsource the job to workers living in India.

If I ever have kids, I’m going to make them go to public schools and then put them on an apprenticeship at age 16.

Your first sentence is entirely correct.

Material items however will give them an edge into getting into better social circles and receiving more positive reinforcement which leads to an NT personality.

Private schools and top universities are important for networking but it’s also important to have the material things in order to not have the kid be shunned by richer peers.

If you send your kid to public school they will learn to fit in around low class people. To be fair it’s still a better life than I’ve had by far, but I don’t see it as ideal at all.

Anyway I had a vasectomy because making money is impossible.

 

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