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This guy has shit orbital fatpads which makes his eyes look hollow and sickly, truly fucking disgusting.
Compared to O'Pry who has youthful fatpads around his orbitals which gives his eyes hooding, hooded eyes are fatpads + supraorbital prominence, this guy has a high-set supraorbital, sure he would've had hooded eyes if he had fatpads but they wouldn't be O'Pry tier since he has rounded orbitals.

COMPACT ORBITALS + ORBITAL FATPADS + LOW SET, FLARED SUPRAORBITALS = LIFE.
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I have good fat pads on the supras but not on infras which causes some hollowness and unbalance between supras and infras

Are fat graft a solution to correct hollow undereyes?
 

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good thread altho i dont understand very much
 
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I have good fat pads on the supras but not on infras which causes some hollowness and unbalance between supras and infras

Are fat graft a solution to correct bad undereyes?
Ye fat grafts are cheaper and recommended
 
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I have good fat pads on the supras but not on infras which causes some hollowness and unbalance between supras and infras

Are fat graft a solution to correct bad undereyes?
Not a surgery enjoyer but I would say just get implants
 
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Guy on the left has a million other failos aswell
 
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Yes, but just used him as an example since he basically carries no fat in his upper eyelids.
His eye color is also a bad blue ; dark, dull, probablty unnoticeable in normal conditions.

Unlucky
 
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His eye color is also a bad blue ; dark, dull, probablty unnoticeable in normal conditions.

Unlucky
I eyecolor mog him with my T20's brutal
 
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not only fat pads . orbicularis oculi is also important, not only that it does affect uee but also canthal tilt
 
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not only fat pads . orbicularis oculi is also important, not only that it does affect uee but also canthal tilt
I've been training my eye muscles too, underrated asf
 
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I've been training my eye muscles too, underrated asf
same I started two weeks ago I already see some small improvements . it might take me 3 months to see huge improvments
 
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Infra implants, you need bone.
Yes I think so. I always believed that I had the same eyes as O'Pry. But by comparing pictures, he doesn't have obvious inbalance between his supras and infras while my infras are weaker than him but my supras stronger
 
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Yes I think so. I always believed that I had the same eyes as O'Pry. But by comparing pictures, he doesn't have obvious inbalance between his supras and infras while my infras are weaker than him but my supras stronger
Your supras are stronger than O'Pry's? send pics
 
At this stade its not just fat, also the shape
 
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Your supras are stronger than O'Pry's? send pics
I'm not 100% sure if they are stronger but probably as strong. I made Xrays and yes, you could see how prominent my frontal bone/browridge is.
 

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Can this be treated with fillers ?
 
I'm not 100% sure if they are stronger but probably as strong. I made Xrays and yes, you could see how prominent my frontal bone/browridge is.
Interesting, would've been mogger if you had neutral hooding
 
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This guy has shit orbital fatpads which makes his eyes look hollow and sickly, truly fucking disgusting.
Compared to O'Pry who has youthful fatpads around his orbitals which gives his eyes hooding, hooded eyes are fatpads + supraorbital prominence, this guy has a high-set supraorbital, sure he would've had hooded eyes if he had fatpads but they wouldn't be O'Pry tier since he has rounded orbitals.

COMPACT ORBITALS + ORBITAL FATPADS + LOW SET, FLARED SUPRAORBITALS = LIFE.
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This guy vs opry is a brutal comparision of subhuman Vs chad, he jaw mogs sean opry(width, not so sure about bone mass) but his upper third totally kill his face. With not even hunter but almond eyes with visible dark eyebrows he would have been mtn at least
 
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This guy vs opry is a brutal comparision of subhuman Vs chad, he jaw mogs sean opry(width, not so sure about bone mass) but his upper third totally kill his face. With not even hunter but almond eyes with visible dark eyebrows he would have been mtn at least
Not to mention he's ginger as well, plus his eyes look brown from a distance
 
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Not to mention he's ginger as well, plus his eyes look brown from a distance
His eyebrows are 404
Why have most gingers such unfortunate features? I know some irl and they either are subhumans or moggers
 
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This guy vs opry is a brutal comparision of subhuman Vs chad, he jaw mogs sean opry(width, not so sure about bone mass) but his upper third totally kill his face. With not even hunter but almond eyes with visible dark eyebrows he would have been mtn at least
He definitely jaw mogs in width but Sean O'Pry's jaw has been underrated ngl, i like it
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His eyebrows are 404
Why have most gingers such unfortunate features? I know some irl and they either are subhumans or moggers
Ginger girl are foggers or subhumans, ginger men are always subhuman ngl
 
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This guy has shit orbital fatpads which makes his eyes look hollow and sickly, truly fucking disgusting.
Compared to O'Pry who has youthful fatpads around his orbitals which gives his eyes hooding, hooded eyes are fatpads + supraorbital prominence, this guy has a high-set supraorbital, sure he would've had hooded eyes if he had fatpads but they wouldn't be O'Pry tier since he has rounded orbitals.

COMPACT ORBITALS + ORBITAL FATPADS + LOW SET, FLARED SUPRAORBITALS = LIFE.
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I have good fat pads on the supras but not on infras which causes some hollowness and unbalance between supras and infras

Are fat graft a solution to correct hollow undereyes?
How much did your eye colour change procedures cost you in total? And do you have pictures of your results just from eyecos?
 
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He definitely jaw mogs in width but Sean O'Pry's jaw has been underrated ngl, i like it
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Yeah width but mostly shape but it doesn't even matter with that pheno/eyes, phenoplasty is real :feelsgood:
Yeah his jaw is top 5% because he has big masseters, facial leanness and square tall chin but according to most it's not ideal because of his high gonial angle/ downward growth. Even though younger barrett and gandy have this jaw as well and are called psl gods lol

Ginger girl are foggers or subhumans, ginger men are always subhuman ngl
Legit, once irl i've seen one and she was a fogger, other were ugly idk why. Also those freckles are disgusting lmao:feelskek::feelswat:
 
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Interesting, would've been mogger if you had neutral hooding
I think it's neutral in person. The negative tilt/ hooding is an illusion made by my hollowed undereyes or the slighty dropy eyelid. When I make my lower eyelid straight, the hooding looks perfect
 

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Yeah width but mostly shape but it doesn't even matter with that pheno/eyes, phenoplasty is real :feelsgood:
Yeah his jaw is top 5% because he has big masseters, facial leanness and square tall chin but according to most it's not ideal because of his high gonial angle/ downward growth. Even though younger barrett and gandy have this jaw as well and are called psl gods lol


Legit, once irl i've seen one and she was a fogger, other were ugly idk why. Also those freckles are disgusting lmao:feelskek::feelswat:
I think freckles on girls looks pretty cute, but on pale asf skin and red hair it looks pretty bad ngl
 
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I think it's neutral in person. The negative tilt/ hooding is an illusion made by my hollowed undereyes or the slighty dropy eyelid. When I make my lower eyelid straight, the hooding looks perfect
@Akatlyn slay count*?
 
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Lmao he claimed he became like that with 8 years of jewing
 
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Lmao he claimed he became like that with 8 years of jewing
It was fillers
 
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Lmao he claimed he became like that with 8 years of jewing
Not really. You didn't read everything.
I did fillers + accutane + laser eye color change + a nose job

The mewing maybe helped a little bit, at least it healped to prevent more dowsurging.
The browridge developped a lot after 20 but I can't tell if mewing helped for that.
 
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It was fillers
Yeah he said fillers only on jaw but idk. I think it’s ageing+ implants. Jaws with fillers looks bloated af his is very sharp and doesn't look bloated.

Not really. You didn't read everything.
I did fillers + accutane + laser eye color change + a nose job
I did, just not remembered the nosejob and eye laser color part because i read your thread months ago, good dedication anyway just do not insert mewing the next time man.
 
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And in the last picture I shared, the jaw fillers completely faded. You can tell it by looking at the ramus which is still long but tilted inward, causing a "rounded" jaw, the jaw became narrower. The fillers gave a straighter ramus with a well defined angle
 
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Yeah he said fillers only on jaw but idk. I think it’s ageing+ implants. Jaws with fillers looks bloated af his is very sharp and doesn't look bloated.


I did, just not remembered the nosejob and eye laser color part because i read your thread months ago, good dedication anyway just do not insert mewing the next time man.
Implants give more a bloated looking that fillers. Fillers definitely give you a sharp looking, if you have low enough bodyfat. The bloatting comes from excess, if you keep injecting fillers during years. Also it depends a lot of the areas injected.
 
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I know that a lot of people asked videos to see my jaw in motion. Promise, I'll do it once I get my Radiesse fillers
 
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Implants give more a bloated looking that fillers. Fillers definitely give you a sharp looking, if you have low enough bodyfat. The bloatting comes from excess, if you keep injecting fillers during years. Also it depends a lot of the areas injected.
I always thought that fillers can bloat you way more than implants because they "attract" more water, and like you said certain areas are not good for fillers(cheekbones and under eye if infras are average), some implants seems to bloat you but mainly when the design is overdone with exaggerated changes. I've seen many people botching themselves with injecting fillers for years, seems like they never get fully reabsorbed. I remember that pagnoni, a surgeon, once did a small study and he concluded that multiple injections of filler in the nose changed the cartilage so the shape permanently. Fillers are no joke
 
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I always thought that fillers can bloat you way more than implants because they "attract" more water, and like you said certain areas are not good for fillers(cheekbones and under eye if infras are average), some implants seems to bloat you but mainly when the design is overdone with exaggerated changes. I've seen many people botching themselves with injecting fillers for years, seems like they never get fully reabsorbed. I remember that pagnoni, a surgeon, once did a small study and he concluded that multiple injections of filler in the nose changed the cartilage so the shape permanently. Fillers are no joke
You're right, HA attracts water while Radiesse doesn't (from what I saw) that's why I'd like to go with it this time. I think that's the last time I'll do fillers. Then, I'll come to my surgeron with my fillers to show him what I would like with implants. I don't really like implants but I want a permanent change and no osteotomy could give me that as it doesn't widen the jaw...

That's the areas I injected :
- mandibular angles
- Chin : more projection + a little wider and squarer
- Cheekbones : to create more angularity without fucking my ES ratio. A little so
 
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You're right, HA attracts water while Radiesse doesn't (from what I saw) that's why I'd like to go with it this time. I think that's the last time I'll do fillers. Then, I'll come to my surgeron with my fillers to show him what I would like with implants. I don't really like implants but I want a permanent change and no osteotomy could give me that as it doesn't widen the jaw...
I saw other guys that went to eppley and they got radiesse as well, it was visible on their scan and he said that it does not impact the result of the implants and that removal is not necessary, i think that small gonions implants are better because they are permanent and won't bloat you as much as bigger implants or wrap arounds. Unfortunately currently we have good osteotomies only for the chin, for the jaw we only have implants and fillers.

That's the areas I injected :
- mandibular angles
- Chin : more projection + a little wider and squarer
- Cheekbones : to create more angularity without fucking my ES ratio. A little so
Incredible results in the cheekbones, most guys ending up looking gay and bloated. Chin fillers are the safest, literally 0 migration and they are cheap too you need very few mls with chin. Your ascension overall was one of the best we've seen so far.
 
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His eye color is also a bad blue ; dark, dull, probablty unnoticeable in normal conditions.

Unlucky
what do you think causes variances in dark dull blue vs vibrant light blues in normal lighting?

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lightning factors aside ofc
 
Stroma thickness/collagen of density fibers. The more you have the more light with be caught, reflected
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But an abundance of stromal collagen fibers inhibits Tyndall Scattering and thus blue tones, not something you would want?

less stroma thickness/collagen density of the iris is better, no?

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