The Islamic dilemma ( over for muslimcels )

mods need to create a sub section for religion and philosophy holy so tired of the uncurious and the race baiters (not gonna name drop but its the idiot with the rira pfp)
Who made the thread in the first place jfl:lul::lul:

We dont care about others but certain people are obsessed with us @Ahmed88
 
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Thread got raped dont bother looking for actual good discussion theres none here
 
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This has to be the most retarded thread i read today

The gospel is the word of god, however muslims believe it was changed by humans (tampered with it)

So technically it is the word of god but many things changed, meaning the source itself became false

@Gengar’s Ghost did i miss anything jfl
Yea u missed that Mohammed looked to the scriptures before him to affirm his message, which isn’t the case lol
 
Sunnis try not to be salafis challenge ( impossible )
Russian supporting hitler :lul:
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Who made the thread in the first place jfl:lul::lul:
didnt expect idiots too reply without actually reading ? like what ? im sorry for expecting the standard
We dont care about others but certain people are obsessed with us @
Ahmed88
@Ahmed88
yea im ''obsessed'' and islam totally isnt a world religion with real word consequence's, ask yourself why women get beat simply for taking off their hijab ? It isn't the standard to behave like this
 
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Irrelevant, none of your business how i take my religion
Yeah sure have your caliphate, beat your women, marry off those 13 year old girls

Won’t stop the whole of the free world destroying it

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Yea u missed that Mohammed looked to the scriptures before him to affirm his message, which isn’t the case lol
Well the funny thing here is that prophet mobammed never knew how to read or write

Well but I’ll go with your ideology

"People of the Book" (Jews and Christians) changed the scriptures with their own hands (Surah 2:79)

His rule was to show the continuing legacy of gods message while also acting like the final “quality control” to fix human errors
 
show me where and again you didnt read
This has to be the most retarded thread i read today

The gospel is the word of god, however muslims believe it was changed by humans (tampered with it)

So technically it is the word of god but many things changed, meaning the source itself became false

Ghost did i miss anything
 
The gospel is the word of god, however muslims believe it was changed by humans (tampered with it)

So technically it is the word of god but many things changed, meaning the source itself became false
WTF ??? I've already responded too this Twice. DID you not see i literally responded to this in the Original POST
The Qur'an affirms the Gospel as the word of god but Islam contradicts it
If the Gospel is corrupted or false islam fails because islam affirms its authority

How did an all knowing God put you into this position how did he not have the foresight or power for this ?
proving again that u didnt READ:aheago::aheago::aheago:
 
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Yeah sure have your caliphate, beat your women, marry off those 13 year old girls

Won’t stop the whole of the free world destroying it

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do not retain them to their hurt [harm] or by way of transgression; whosoever will do that will indeed wrong himself."
And live with them in kindness. For if you dislike them—perhaps you dislike a thing and Allah makes therein much good.
Tell me the part where its allowed beating up women
Or is it your shitty propaganda mindset
And test the orphans [in their abilities] until they reach marriageable age (bulugh). Then if you perceive in them sound judgment (rushd), release their property to them..."

Not only hitting puberty, but also the mental capabilites

Your a sheep that follows the propaganda
 
Well the funny thing here is that prophet mobammed never knew how to read or write

Well but I’ll go with your ideology

"People of the Book" (Jews and Christians) changed the scriptures with their own hands (Surah 2:79)

His rule was to show the continuing legacy of gods message while also acting like the final “quality control” to fix human errors
yea man that’s what a contradiction is, you can’t affirm a corrupted source and say it points to you

And obviously the devil would choose an illiterate person so that he can’t read the books before him, why is Muhammad reliable 🫩
 

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So it goes like this

If the Qur'an affirms the Gospels then it is false, if the Qur'an doesn't it is false . If gods massagers or god himself is perfect then we can assume the Qur'an is perfect than aswell since its the word of god right ???

Wrong, since god is perfect this mistake proves either he not perfect (and the Qur'an is wrong) or the Qur'an isnt the word of god (or maybe he likes trolling:feelswhy:)

''erm when are u showing us the error then'' now nigga be patience jeez im getting there, woahzers.

Ok so heres the error :
The Qur'an affirms the Gospel as the word of god but Islam contradicts it
If the Gospel is corrupted or false islam fails because islam affirms its authority

How did an all knowing God put you into this position how did he not have the foresight or power for this ?

i would write more but i dont wanna get DNRed
your thoughts ? :hnghn::hnghn::owo:
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yea man that’s what a contradiction is, you can’t affirm a corrupted source and say it points to you

And obviously the devil would choose an illiterate person so that he can’t read the books before him, why is Muhammad reliable 🫩
truthnuke
 
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do not retain them to their hurt [harm] or by way of transgression; whosoever will do that will indeed wrong himself."
And live with them in kindness. For if you dislike them—perhaps you dislike a thing and Allah makes therein much good.
Tell me the part where its allowed beating up women
Or is it your shitty propaganda mindset
And test the orphans [in their abilities] until they reach marriageable age (bulugh). Then if you perceive in them sound judgment (rushd), release their property to them..."

Not only hitting puberty, but also the mental capabilites

Your a sheep that follows the propaganda
https://www.unicef.org/mena/reports/facts-and-figures-child-marriage-middle-east-and-north-africa

There’s de facto and then there’s de jure

Fact Shia countries don’t beat women or marry off children

Fact Sunni countries repeatedly support salafi projects like Islamic state

Fact Sunnis have a chip on their shoulder about Shias because they educated women and don’t force them to be in niqab
 
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WTF ??? I've already responded too this Twice. DID you not see i literally responded to this in the Original POST

proving again that u didnt READ:aheago::aheago::aheago:
Islam teaches that God gave previous nations (like the Israelites) the responsibility to protect their own books as a test. They failed that test.

Believing that humans cant just hold a pen and change things is just retarded, its a test
 
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do not retain them to their hurt [harm] or by way of transgression; whosoever will do that will indeed wrong himself."
And live with them in kindness. For if you dislike them—perhaps you dislike a thing and Allah makes therein much good.
Tell me the part where its allowed beating up women
Or is it your shitty propaganda mindset
And test the orphans [in their abilities] until they reach marriageable age (bulugh). Then if you perceive in them sound judgment (rushd), release their property to them..."

Not only hitting puberty, but also the mental capabilites

Your a sheep that follows the propaganda
Nah not really, maturity is subjective especially mental maturity
 
Who made the thread in the first place jfl:lul::lul:

We dont care about others but certain people are obsessed with us @Ahmed88
He's mad his whole thread got debunked
Yeah sure have your caliphate, beat your women, marry off those 13 year old girls

Won’t stop the whole of the free world destroying it

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All of that was debunked :feelskek:


YOU WILL NEVER STOP THE GREAT CALIPHATE OF EUROPA NO MATTER HOW MANY LIES YOU SPREAD


Ottoman Empire GIF
 
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He's mad his whole thread got debunked

All of that was debunked :feelskek:


YOU WILL NEVER STOP THE GREAT CALIPHATE OF EUROPA NO MATTER HOW MANY LIES YOU SPREAD


Ottoman Empire GIF
if u think i care about race or immigration ur dumber than i thought
 
Doesn’t Iran have a big problem on this?
It is less of a problem in Iran when compared to other Muslim countries, mostly because they are Shia ( Sunnis call them heretics for this reason jfl ). They even have a political faction called reformists

Hijab laws aren’t even enforced in Iran anymore and even when they were it was very lax, again a thing Sunni countries critiqued them on

You can see the cope in this thread dude said it’s none of my business how he handles his religion, sounds like every wife beater and pedophiles justification :lul:
 
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It is less of a problem in Iran when compared to other Muslim countries, mostly because they are Shia ( Sunnis call them heretics for this reason jfl ). They even have a political faction called reformists

Hijab laws aren’t even enforced in Iran anymore and even when they were it was very lax, again a thing Sunni countries critiqued them on

You can see the cope in this thread dude said it’s none of my business how he handles his religion, sounds like every wife beater and pedophiles justification :lul:
The marital rape situation is the worst in the Middle East ngl 😭😭 shit isn’t a debate over there
 
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The marital rape situation is the worst in the Middle East ngl 😭😭 shit isn’t a debate over there
They don’t need .is over there because discussion like that is accepted publicly :lul:

In Iran they have legal prostitution in the form of temporary marriages :lul:
 
yea man that’s what a contradiction is, you can’t affirm a corrupted source and say it points to you

And obviously the devil would choose an illiterate person so that he can’t read the books before him, why is Muhammad reliable 🫩
Islam doesn't say the current Bible is the proof, it says the original message is

Think about it like this, lets say you have a map ( idk treasure map whatever, and the map itself was burnt(ruined but still available), you could see some landmarks and prove hes going the same way, he used the remaining true parts to prove the source is the same

If muhammad was a genius who could read and write, you guys would say “oh he read old books and made up his book based on that”, so whatever happens you will still find a way to hate

The “devil” tricking the prophet is just such a fucking retarded claim that made me lose braincels, why would he tell the prophet to prophit magic, and also stating there is god

Also if hes a devil worshipper, then there would be benfifits, like living in a rich house and living a nice life, the prophet was modest and humble

Also retard going back to that the prophet was itellerate, this only proves its god work, as no poet reaches the level of how the quran is written

Low iq retard

@Ahmed88 comr look at this haha
 
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Keep on going in circles and get debunked every time, loom at how far you moved from the main claim you made

This is funny how low iq some humans are

Anyways this is a looping circle that is never ending, no matter how much i debunk you will make new claims, which would take me a lifetime to answer, and even then you wont believe in god
 
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Islam doesn't say the current Bible is the proof, it says the original message is

Think about it like this, lets say you have a map ( idk treasure map whatever, and the map itself was burnt(ruined but still available), you could see some landmarks and prove hes going the same way, he used the remaining true parts to prove the source is the same

If muhammad was a genius who could read and write, you guys would say “oh he read old books and made up his book based on that”, so whatever happens you will still find a way to hate

The “devil” tricking the prophet is just such a fucking retarded claim that made me lose braincels, why would he tell the prophet to prophit magic, and also stating there is god

Also if hes a devil worshipper, then there would be benfifits, like living in a rich house and living a nice life, the prophet was modest and humble

Also retard going back to that the prophet was itellerate, this only proves its god work, as no poet reaches the level of how the quran is written

Low iq retard

@Ahmed88 comr look at this haha
They are all low iq retards, who will prob say ,,Dnr" cause they lost the argument, not even worth arguing with them, you could debunk all their arguments and they still wouldn't accept it
 
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original message
Which is reliant on the Jews and Christians, otherwise nobody has the original message


Straw man, the devil wouldn’t pick a genius, thanks for debunking your religion by literally saying that Allah picked a stupid guy 😭
there is god
because the best lies are sprinkled with some truth, and that would be better to deceive Christians
as no poet reaches the level of how the quran is written
literally says Mary is a Godhead, is Allah not all knowing? Why does Allah say that the Jews think Ezra is the son of God? It seems Allahs knowledge is limited to small tribes and isn’t an eternal word
like living in a rich house and living a nice life
Yo allah i wanna fuck this war captive can u reveal a verse rq that says i can do that? Oh and also lemme use you as an excuse to say that Aisha the child was appointed by you to be my wife, muhhhh no benefits
 
They are all low iq retards, who will prob say ,,Dnr" cause they lost the argument, not even worth arguing with them, you could debunk all their arguments and they still wouldn't accept it
Its just sad how lost people are, truth infront of their eyes and they still deny it

Yea it’ll just keep on going in circles, if they read it i will checm what they have to say “probably dnr cuz they got debunked”

But yea i wont be talking with low iq anymore
 
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They are all low iq retards, who will prob say ,,Dnr" cause they lost the argument, not even worth arguing with them, you could debunk all their arguments and they still wouldn't accept it
Keep on going in circles and get debunked every time, loom at how far you moved from the main claim you made

This is funny how low iq some humans are

Anyways this is a looping circle that is never ending, no matter how much i debunk you will make new claims, which would take me a lifetime to answer, and even then you wont believe in god
Jfl your religion isn’t in continuation with previous prophets keep coping
 
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I replied to your shitty rebuttal baljeet
First im not a baljeet

Second most your redebunks are retarded and again making the same claims over and over again, i already told you how the continuation works and you still ask the same question

Also when i said “genius” i meant it as an excuse for you, and ofc you ignore the fact i told you why would the devil prophibt magic and that there is only one god

See your just retarded
 
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So it goes like this

If the Qur'an affirms the Gospels then it is false, if the Qur'an doesn't it is false . If gods massagers or god himself is perfect then we can assume the Qur'an is perfect than aswell since its the word of god right ???

Wrong, since god is perfect this mistake proves either he not perfect (and the Qur'an is wrong) or the Qur'an isnt the word of god (or maybe he likes trolling:feelswhy:)

''erm when are u showing us the error then'' now nigga be patience jeez im getting there, woahzers.

Ok so heres the error :
The Qur'an affirms the Gospel as the word of god but Islam contradicts it
If the Gospel is corrupted or false islam fails because islam affirms its authority

How did an all knowing God put you into this position how did he not have the foresight or power for this ?

i would write more but i dont wanna get DNRed
your thoughts ? :hnghn::hnghn::owo:
Should've known when you made this thread you'd smash a hornet nest
 
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Which is reliant on the Jews and Christians, otherwise nobody has the original message



Straw man, the devil wouldn’t pick a genius, thanks for debunking your religion by literally saying that Allah picked a stupid guy 😭

because the best lies are sprinkled with some truth, and that would be better to deceive Christians

literally says Mary is a Godhead, is Allah not all knowing? Why does Allah say that the Jews think Ezra is the son of God? It seems Allahs knowledge is limited to small tribes and isn’t an eternal word

Yo allah i wanna fuck this war captive can u reveal a verse rq that says i can do that? Oh and also lemme use you as an excuse to say that Aisha the child was appointed by you to be my wife, muhhhh no benefits
What are these arguments? Mf just ignored all the main arguments, goes in circles and makes retarded ass ,,arguments" :lul:

I replied to your shitty rebuttal baljeet
And then has the balls to call your rebuttal shitty, even after ignoring the main arguments :lul::lul::lul::lul:

@AppealGod123 did you really take your precious time off your day to debunk stupid ass claims like these :feelskek: He's definitely trolling you
 
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Proof it?

“muh keep coping muh me high iq”
yea I think the burden of proof is on the person coming 600 years after the gospel and saying it’s all false and that you should follow his religion instead

How am I supposed to prove a prophet has no prophecies, list them all? Other than the prophecies perfectly predicting the start and end of
 
What are these arguments? Mf just ignored all the main arguments and goes in circles :lul:


And then has the balls to call your rebuttal shitty, even after ignoring the main arguments :lul::lul::lul::lul:

@AppealGod123 did you really take your precious time off your day to debunk stupid ass claims like these :feelskek: He's definitely trolling you
I really think he is trolling or hes low iq

Seems like both to me
 
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First im not a baljeet

Second most your redebunks are retarded and again making the same claims over and over again, i already told you how the continuation works and you still ask the same question

Also when i said “genius” i meant it as an excuse for you, and ofc you ignore the fact i told you why would the devil prophibt magic and that there is only one god

See your just retarded
That’s not continuation dork, completely different God that’s a pretty big claim and requires good evidence
 
I really think he is trolling or hes low iq

Seems like both to me
Def trolling

Probably a christcuck, their average iq is in the 30s

Keep licking his balls fag, defend your own religion pedo justifying sand monkey
Yeah yeah, why don't you go and rape a kid or marry a 3 year old :feelskek:

Debunk all their arguments i listed and then we will talk further
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yea I think the burden of proof is on the person coming 600 years after the gospel and saying it’s all false and that you should follow his religion instead

How am I supposed to prove a prophet has no prophecies, list them all? Other than the prophecies perfectly predicting the start and end of
Omg for the millionth fucking time i wi say this ( cant believe im falling for the bait)

“All false” we never said that

“Follow religion” yes we said that because the gospel was tampered with, same with the torah

  • The Byzantine Victory (Surah Ar-Rum): At a time when the Roman (Byzantine) Empire was completely crushed by the Persians, the Qur'an predicted they would win again in "three to nine years." Against all odds, they did.

  • The Barefoot Bedouins: He predicted that "naked, barefooted shepherds" (the people of the Arabian Peninsula) would one day "compete in building tall buildings." (Today, the world's tallest buildings are in Dubai and Saudi Arabia).
  • Spread of Interest (Riba): He predicted a time when no one would be able to escape the "dust" of usury/interest—describing the modern global banking system.
  • Rapid Transportation: He mentioned that "distances would be shortened" and "time would pass quickly," which scholars link to modern travel and communication.
@Ahmed88 man im caging its 1:30 am and i can barely keep my eyes open and im sti cooking this kid
 
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