“The looksmaxing rating system for ‘greys’.”

[JONATHAN THE GREAT]

Subhuman​

• Severe physical abnormalities or missing features
• Includes extreme cases like missing eyes, major disfigurement, or severe disabilities (e.g. war injuries)
• Extremely rare and not really part of normal rating discussions

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2. Sub3​

• Severe negative factors affecting appearance
• Examples:
  • Extreme obesity (200kg+)
  • Severe untreated acne
  • Very poor hygiene
• Overall: appearance is heavily impacted in multiple major ways

---

3. Sub5​

• Still below average, but more “functional” socially
• Could attract others with strong personality/social skills
• Common traits:
  • Poor hygiene
  • Noticeable overweight (130kg+)
  • Bad acne
  • Weak bone structure

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4. LTN (Low-Tier Normie)​

• Entering normal range, but still below average
• Traits:
  • Bad or neglected skin
  • Skinny or slightly out of shape
  • Poor haircut/style
  • Slightly below-average bone structure

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5. MTN (Mid-Tier Normie)​

• The “average guy”
• What most people look like
• Traits:
  • Decent hair
  • Normal skin
  • Average bone structure
• Blends into the crowd

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6. HTN (High-Tier Normie)​

• Clearly attractive
• Often seen as “good-looking” by most people
• Traits:
  • Good hair and grooming
  • Clear skin
  • Stronger bone structure
• Comparable to many actors/celebrities

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7. Chad-Lite​

• Very attractive, above most people
• Often model-level in real life
• Traits:
  • Good to elite bone structure
  • Strong eye area
  • Clear, high-quality skin

---

8. Chad​

• Top-tier attractiveness
• Among the best-looking men
• Traits:
  • Elite bone structure
  • Excellent facial harmony
  • Near-perfect skin and features

---

9. Adam-Lite​

• Extremely rare level
• High-end model tier
• Traits:
  • Elite in almost every category
  • Near-perfect proportions
  • Very strong facial harmony

---

10. True Adam​

• The theoretical peak
• Almost unattainable naturally
• Requires:
  • Perfect proportions across all features
  • No weak or even “average” features
  • Often would require both elite genetics + enhancement

---

Female Scale (Simplified Equivalent)​

Follows a similar structure:

• Subhuman → Sub3 → Sub5 → LTN → MTN → HTN
• Then:
  • LTB (Low-Tier Becky)
  • MTB (Mid-Tier Becky)
  • HTB (High-Tier BECKY
  • Stacy-Lite
  • Stacy
  • Eve-Lite
  • True Eve (female equivalent of “True Adam”)

 

[ArimaWillAscend]

Subhuman​

• Severe physical abnormalities or missing features
• Includes extreme cases like missing eyes, major disfigurement, or severe disabilities (e.g. war injuries)
• Extremely rare and not really part of normal rating discussions

---

2. Sub3​

• Severe negative factors affecting appearance
• Examples:
  • Extreme obesity (200kg+)
  • Severe untreated acne
  • Very poor hygiene
• Overall: appearance is heavily impacted in multiple major ways

---

3. Sub5​

• Still below average, but more “functional” socially
• Could attract others with strong personality/social skills
• Common traits:
  • Poor hygiene
  • Noticeable overweight (130kg+)
  • Bad acne
  • Weak bone structure

---

4. LTN (Low-Tier Normie)​

• Entering normal range, but still below average
• Traits:
  • Bad or neglected skin
  • Skinny or slightly out of shape
  • Poor haircut/style
  • Slightly below-average bone structure

---

5. MTN (Mid-Tier Normie)​

• The “average guy”
• What most people look like
• Traits:
  • Decent hair
  • Normal skin
  • Average bone structure
• Blends into the crowd

---

6. HTN (High-Tier Normie)​

• Clearly attractive
• Often seen as “good-looking” by most people
• Traits:
  • Good hair and grooming
  • Clear skin
  • Stronger bone structure
• Comparable to many actors/celebrities

---

7. Chad-Lite​

• Very attractive, above most people
• Often model-level in real life
• Traits:
  • Good to elite bone structure
  • Strong eye area
  • Clear, high-quality skin

---

8. Chad​

• Top-tier attractiveness
• Among the best-looking men
• Traits:
  • Elite bone structure
  • Excellent facial harmony
  • Near-perfect skin and features

---

9. Adam-Lite​

• Extremely rare level
• High-end model tier
• Traits:
  • Elite in almost every category
  • Near-perfect proportions
  • Very strong facial harmony

---

10. True Adam​

• The theoretical peak
• Almost unattainable naturally
• Requires:
  • Perfect proportions across all features
  • No weak or even “average” features
  • Often would require both elite genetics + enhancement

---

Female Scale (Simplified Equivalent)​

Follows a similar structure:

• Subhuman → Sub3 → Sub5 → LTN → MTN → HTN
• Then:
  • LTB (Low-Tier Becky)
  • MTB (Mid-Tier Becky)
  • HTB (High-Tier BECKY
  • Stacy-Lite
  • Stacy
  • Eve-Lite
  • True Eve (female equivalent of “True Adam”)

aren't you grey too? anyway good guide just hoping u didn't use ai

 

[pslgod69]

DNR + ChatGPT
also why is it in lm questions?

 

[Bl0odKn1ght]

DNR + ChatGPT
also why is it in lm questions?

.

 

[haryanvi_incel]

which AI chatbot did you use?

 

[TheGlurak]

Saying MTN‘s are the average looking guy and the average in general is the most grey thing possible.
Grey spouting ChatGPT nonsense and spreading misinformation

 

[JONATHAN THE GREAT]

aren't you grey too? anyway good guide just hoping u didn't use ai

I am grey, but there's different sort of greys, like some greys, they literally never heard of looksmaxxing, others are like me, they are becoming more than greys, they know some stuff about looksmaxxing. I am grey, but not a severe grey. And I did use AI, but not like uh asking for the rating system, because, yeah. The reason I used AI is because I'm terrible at writing stuff, like look at my other posts, they are unreadable. So, yeah.

 

[lnceIs]

kys

 

[ijustwannaascendlol]

boiiii im adam lite right foids

 

[JONATHAN THE GREAT]

Saying MTN‘s are the average looking guy and the average in general is the most grey thing possible.
Grey spouting ChatGPT nonsense and spreading misinformation

This is the most grey thing I've ever seen. What are you on about? It's mid-tier normie. It's in the middle. It's literally directly in the middle. It's literally in the name, idiot. We don't... what are you even on about? Low-tier normie is low-tier normie. They are below average. They are slightly below normie. Do you know what normie means? Are you a Chinese man getting used to English? Like, what are you even on about, man?

 

[KidFlash]

I am grey, but there's different sort of greys, like some greys, they literally never heard of looksmaxxing, others are like me, they are becoming more than greys, they know some stuff about looksmaxxing. I am grey, but not a severe grey. And I did use AI, but not like uh asking for the rating system, because, yeah. The reason I used AI is because I'm terrible at writing stuff, like look at my other posts, they are unreadable. So, yeah.

You cannot be grey if you’ve never heard of looksmaxxing you literally have to sing up for an account on here for your name to turn grey since there has to be an account with a name at all that’s what it means and there’s no tiers of greys you’re just either grey or not

 

[ArimaWillAscend]

I am grey, but there's different sort of greys, like some greys, they literally never heard of looksmaxxing, others are like me, they are becoming more than greys, they know some stuff about looksmaxxing. I am grey, but not a severe grey. And I did use AI, but not like uh asking for the rating system, because, yeah. The reason I used AI is because I'm terrible at writing stuff, like look at my other posts, they are unreadable. So, yeah.

grey=under 500 posts

 

[Rick_bozo]

Damn bro why irons lately start having gem posts

 

[haryanvi_incel]

i think HLTN- LMTN is average

 

[JONATHAN THE GREAT]

boiiii im adam lite right foids

no you are adam you mog all of us

 

[ijustwannaascendlol]

 

[JONATHAN THE GREAT]

kys

DNR + ChatGPT
also why is it in lm questions?

i did r

 

[JONATHAN THE GREAT]

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That's what women and men do when they see you. That's how handsome you are.

 

[JONATHAN THE GREAT]

grey=under 500 posts

bro i k

 

[dogshitinfras]

This is the most grey thing I've ever seen. What are you on about? It's mid-tier normie. It's in the middle. It's literally directly in the middle. It's literally in the name, idiot. We don't... what are you even on about? Low-tier normie is low-tier normie. They are below average. They are slightly below normie. Do you know what normie means? Are you a Chinese man getting used to English? Like, what are you even on about, man?

Mtn is 5 and the average is below 5

 

[JONATHAN THE GREAT]

You cannot be grey if you’ve never heard of looksmaxxing you literally have to sing up for an account on here for your name to turn grey since there has to be an account with a name at all that’s what it means and there’s no tiers of greys you’re just either grey or not

So are you telling me a person that's never heard of looksmaxing in his life gose on to looksmax.org, and a person with 459 posts are the same? They are completely the same, even though the person with hundreds of more posts has much more experience. That's a great argument and really logical. You are the smartest guy on the site gonna tell you that, man. Also, you are literally a 500 posts, so you were gray literally a minute ago.

 

[JONATHAN THE GREAT]

Mtn is 5 and the average is below 5

ok man tell clav

 

[TheGlurak]

This is the most grey thing I've ever seen. What are you on about? It's mid-tier normie. It's in the middle. It's literally directly in the middle. It's literally in the name, idiot. We don't... what are you even on about? Low-tier normie is low-tier normie. They are below average. They are slightly below normie. Do you know what normie means? Are you a Chinese man getting used to English? Like, what are you even on about, man?

Bro, MTN describes their facial, or sometimes overall status. Looking „mid“ doesn’t mean the biggest part of the population does so too. What about all the Vietnamese? Most of them have a flat maxilla, and barely reach hltn, that‘s near a whole population below mtn, and the same with so many more. Greatest grey oat

 

[JONATHAN THE GREAT]

Well, your argument is trash. If you are from one of those countries, it's already over for you, and there's no point looksmaxing. You pretty much need to moneymax to be considered a decent man in those sorts of countries. We live in white countries, not black countries, not ugly countries, in places like Australia, USA, Canada. Most people are mid-tier normie. Sure, if you include the whole entire earth, it would be more so LTN as average, but that's not a real good reasoning. Because, uh... Like, it's... You don't live in those sorts of countries, and you aren't going to be talking or dating anyone from those ugly countries, so get into the real place, like Australia, America, Canada, and if you look all around, most people are mid-tier normie.

 

[JONATHAN THE GREAT]

Bro, MTN describes their facial, or sometimes overall status. Looking „mid“ doesn’t mean the biggest part of the population does so too. What about all the Vietnamese? Most of them have a flat maxilla, and barely reach hltn, that‘s near a whole population below mtn, and the same with so many more. Greatest grey oat

And also the true way of calling somebody the greyest grey out is a really low IQ move. You live outside of reality. You live completely inside your mind, in your head. You completely ignore everything about yourself, like how you have 14 posts and say how I'm the greyest out with 90 posts, even though I'm much closer to not being grey than you. That's like me being fat and calling a person 30 kilos less than me, you're the fattest fat person out there. It's not a logical argument. It's completely based outside of reality in happy fun land and an extremely low IQ move. I'm not even going to bother wasting my brain stems on talking to you because dumb people, they just keep coming back and keep yapping their brains away because they have, they can't comprehend that they could do something better with their time instead of just doing stuff that doesn't matter. The best reply to a fool is silence.

 

[Oesteogenesis]

Subhuman​

• Severe physical abnormalities or missing features
• Includes extreme cases like missing eyes, major disfigurement, or severe disabilities (e.g. war injuries)
• Extremely rare and not really part of normal rating discussions

---

2. Sub3​

• Severe negative factors affecting appearance
• Examples:
  • Extreme obesity (200kg+)
  • Severe untreated acne
  • Very poor hygiene
• Overall: appearance is heavily impacted in multiple major ways

---

3. Sub5​

• Still below average, but more “functional” socially
• Could attract others with strong personality/social skills
• Common traits:
  • Poor hygiene
  • Noticeable overweight (130kg+)
  • Bad acne
  • Weak bone structure

---

4. LTN (Low-Tier Normie)​

• Entering normal range, but still below average
• Traits:
  • Bad or neglected skin
  • Skinny or slightly out of shape
  • Poor haircut/style
  • Slightly below-average bone structure

---

5. MTN (Mid-Tier Normie)​

• The “average guy”
• What most people look like
• Traits:
  • Decent hair
  • Normal skin
  • Average bone structure
• Blends into the crowd

---

6. HTN (High-Tier Normie)​

• Clearly attractive
• Often seen as “good-looking” by most people
• Traits:
  • Good hair and grooming
  • Clear skin
  • Stronger bone structure
• Comparable to many actors/celebrities

---

7. Chad-Lite​

• Very attractive, above most people
• Often model-level in real life
• Traits:
  • Good to elite bone structure
  • Strong eye area
  • Clear, high-quality skin

---

8. Chad​

• Top-tier attractiveness
• Among the best-looking men
• Traits:
  • Elite bone structure
  • Excellent facial harmony
  • Near-perfect skin and features

---

9. Adam-Lite​

• Extremely rare level
• High-end model tier
• Traits:
  • Elite in almost every category
  • Near-perfect proportions
  • Very strong facial harmony

---

10. True Adam​

• The theoretical peak
• Almost unattainable naturally
• Requires:
  • Perfect proportions across all features
  • No weak or even “average” features
  • Often would require both elite genetics + enhancement

---

Female Scale (Simplified Equivalent)​

Follows a similar structure:

• Subhuman → Sub3 → Sub5 → LTN → MTN → HTN
• Then:
  • LTB (Low-Tier Becky)
  • MTB (Mid-Tier Becky)
  • HTB (High-Tier BECKY
  • Stacy-Lite
  • Stacy
  • Eve-Lite
  • True Eve (female equivalent of “True Adam”)

sub 5 is LTN btw

 

[TheGlurak]

And also the true way of calling somebody the greyest grey out is a really low IQ move. You live outside of reality. You live completely inside your mind, in your head. You completely ignore everything about yourself, like how you have 14 posts and say how I'm the greyest out with 90 posts, even though I'm much closer to not being grey than you. That's like me being fat and calling a person 30 kilos less than me, you're the fattest fat person out there. It's not a logical argument. It's completely based outside of reality in happy fun land and an extremely low IQ move. I'm not even going to bother wasting my brain stems on talking to you because dumb people, they just keep coming back and keep yapping their brains away because they have, they can't comprehend that they could do something better with their time instead of just doing stuff that doesn't matter. The best reply to a fool is silence.

Just because a braindead person spouts more nonsense than normal one, doesn‘t mean he knows more, bruv. I didn‘t say I‘m not a grey, but you‘re like grey incarnate.

 

[JONATHAN THE GREAT]

sub 5 is LTN btw

ego maxing

 

[anthrocellogy]

ohh my god, ban this moron

 

[JONATHAN THE GREAT]

Just because a braindead person spouts more nonsense than normal one, doesn‘t mean he knows more, bruv. I didn‘t say I‘m not a grey, but you‘re like grey incarnate.

Proving my point.

 

[JONATHAN THE GREAT]

ohh my god, ban this moro

ohh my god, ban this moron

ohh my god, ban this moron

 

[TheGlurak]

Well, your argument is trash. If you are from one of those countries, it's already over for you, and there's no point looksmaxing. You pretty much need to moneymax to be considered a decent man in those sorts of countries. We live in white countries, not black countries, not ugly countries, in places like Australia, USA, Canada. Most people are mid-tier normie. Sure, if you include the whole entire earth, it would be more so LTN as average, but that's not a real good reasoning. Because, uh... Like, it's... You don't live in those sorts of countries, and you aren't going to be talking or dating anyone from those ugly countries, so get into the real place, like Australia, America, Canada, and if you look all around, most people are mid-tier normie.

Another completely braindead take. Where does it end then? Who decided the measurements are only for white populated countries, completely taking out of consideration that many foreign people live in countries such as the US too. Can I now just decide I only count my city, and there I am a Chad? Of course European features often seen in Caucasian people are seen as the ideal, a prognathic face often times seen in African people is undesirable to us, same with flat maxillas of many Asian people, especially around Vietnam and stuff.

The most stupid take being „If you are from one of those countries, it's already over for you“, what the fuck are you even talking about.

So it‘s over for both true Chang and some random ahh Chinese man? Fucking grey

 

[TheGlurak]

Proving my point.

Care to elaborate?

 

[JONATHAN THE GREAT]

Another completely braindead take. Where does it end then? Who decided the measurements are only for white populated countries, completely taking out of consideration that many foreign people live in countries such as the US too. Can I now just decide I only count my city, and there I am a Chad? Of course European features often seen in Caucasian people are seen as the ideal, a prognathic face often times seen in African people is undesirable to us, same with flat maxillas of many Asian people, especially around Vietnam and stuff.

The most stupid take being „If you are from one of those countries, it's already over for you“, what the fuck are you even talking about.

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So it‘s over for both true Chang and some random ahh Chinese man? Fucking grey

You are getting this information completely from your schizophrenic, your sort of brain. Ask clavicle what is a normal person. He will say mid t normie. You aren't people like you. They aren't this secret group that knows everything and they are the truly knowledgeable people. They are people that really have extreme disabilities and can't really use their brain, so people with brain damage, autism, things like that. So, I'm gonna say this for the hundredth time. The greatest reply to a fool is silence.

 

[ijustwannaascendlol]

That's what women and men do when they see you. That's how handsome you are.

Indeed my nigger.

 

[TheGlurak]

You are getting this information completely from your schizophrenic, your sort of brain. Ask clavicle what is a normal person. He will say mid t normie. You aren't people like you. They aren't this secret group that knows everything and they are the truly knowledgeable people. They are people that really have extreme disabilities and can't really use their brain, so people with brain damage, autism, things like that. So, I'm gonna say this for the hundredth time. The greatest reply to a fool is silence.

Using some random ass proverb while dodging my takes and questions tells me enough too, boyo

 

[Galvatron]

 

[JONATHAN THE GREAT]

Using some random ass proverb while dodging my takes and questions tells me enough too, boyo

,,

 

[KidFlash]

So are you telling me a person that's never heard of looksmaxing in his life gose on to looksmax.org, and a person with 459 posts are the same? They are completely the same, even though the person with hundreds of more posts has much more experience. That's a great argument and really logical. You are the smartest guy on the site gonna tell you that, man. Also, you are literally a 500 posts, so you were gray literally a minute ago.

No, i’m telling you a person who has never went on here in his life doesn’t qualify for being grey since you would need an account yourself for your name to turn any color how the fuck do you not understand

Holy yap

 

[Pony]

 

[jien]

How does this system apply to asians? I know that bonemass is incredibly important but isnt it slightly different for each phenotype?