The market is in a meltdown

[Jason Voorhees]

Massive market bloodbath: U.S. stock market sheds a staggering $5 trillion in just 3 weeks amid mounting uncertainty, here's what's fueling the Wall Street wipeout

U.S. stock market is facing a severe downturn, shedding $5 trillion in just three weeks as uncertainty grips Wall Street. The S&P 500 has plunged 10% from its peak, with losses fueled by trade war tensions, slowing economic growth, and a sharp decline in AI-related stocks like Nvidia. Analysts...

m.economictimes.com

In just three weeks $5 trillion has vanished, and investors are signalling a bleak future resulting in massive sell off. Why did this happen now? Because of Trump's recent tariff moves. The market doesn’t like uncertainty and with things down, businesses are slowing production, laying people off, halting products and stockpilling cash. The fact that even hedge funds are scaling back on leverage means they're hedging against more volatility.. Household savings are also at a record low. Looks like tough times are coming.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@666PSL @Shahnameh @Brus Wane @Chadeep @Seth Walsh

 

[Surfsup]

Dnrd got bored mid read

 

[Surfsup]

Dnrd got bored mid read

Over for tiktokattentionspancels

 

[sigma boii]

New world order motherfucker

 

[piec]

dnr buy the dip faggot

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@gymcel64 @Godera @fr0st @deadstock

 

[Jason Voorhees]

dnr buy the dip faggot

This is clearly not a short-term thing if ev3n the big players are pulling out money. It is the start of a deeper recession or prolonged downturn. If you were to buy the dip you might be waiting for years to even break even. Markets might keep dipping if the underlying issues don't resolve quickly.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@Debetro @Sonneillon @moggerofhumanity

 

[Sonneillon]

Trumpy dumpy, he's bumpy when he's jumpy

 

[Debetro]

Capitalism classic

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Trumpy dumpy, he's bumpy when he's jumpy

Orange man needs to do something quick @Wombles

 

[gymceltard]

Of course the lying mainstream media is blaming Trump

Fuck the fake news

 

[Sonneillon]

Of course the lying mainstream media is blaming Trump

Fuck the fake news

Yeah it's all a shitshow trunp aswell he looks like he's a vax figure

 

[loyolaxavvierretard]

Massive market bloodbath: U.S. stock market sheds a staggering $5 trillion in just 3 weeks amid mounting uncertainty, here's what's fueling the Wall Street wipeout

U.S. stock market is facing a severe downturn, shedding $5 trillion in just three weeks as uncertainty grips Wall Street. The S&P 500 has plunged 10% from its peak, with losses fueled by trade war tensions, slowing economic growth, and a sharp decline in AI-related stocks like Nvidia. Analysts...

m.economictimes.com

In just three weeks $5 trillion has vanished, and investors are signalling a bleak future resulting in massive sell off. Why did this happen now? Because of Trump's recent tariff moves. The market doesn’t like uncertainty and with things down, businesses are slowing production, laying people off, halting products and stockpilling cash. The fact that even hedge funds are scaling back on leverage means they're hedging against more volatility.. Household savings are also at a record low. Looks like tough times are coming.

The modern Presidents have baffling economic policy. I am considering coming back from the dead to run for President again. I think I would win

 

[Alias!]

Massive market bloodbath: U.S. stock market sheds a staggering $5 trillion in just 3 weeks amid mounting uncertainty, here's what's fueling the Wall Street wipeout

U.S. stock market is facing a severe downturn, shedding $5 trillion in just three weeks as uncertainty grips Wall Street. The S&P 500 has plunged 10% from its peak, with losses fueled by trade war tensions, slowing economic growth, and a sharp decline in AI-related stocks like Nvidia. Analysts...

m.economictimes.com

In just three weeks $5 trillion has vanished, and investors are signalling a bleak future resulting in massive sell off. Why did this happen now? Because of Trump's recent tariff moves. The market doesn’t like uncertainty and with things down, businesses are slowing production, laying people off, halting products and stockpilling cash. The fact that even hedge funds are scaling back on leverage means they're hedging against more volatility.. Household savings are also at a record low. Looks like tough times are coming.

Massive market bloodbath.

 

[Wombles]

Orange man needs to do something quick @Wombles

He needs to give some more money to isreal that will solve everything

 

[Godera]

Long bear market incoming

 

[Pento]

dnr buy the dip faggot

Just keep buying the dip as it keeps trickling down bro

 

[Shahnameh]

He needs to give some more money to isreal that will solve everything

why doesnt he just give trillions of dollars to them at this point

 

[Whatever]

I just never wanna hear right wingers / conservatives / Republicans talk about “big government” and government intrusion into the economy ever fucking again, they are now as much big government as literal actual communists. This bullshit is basically sanctions on America. At least with other presidents I didn’t have to worry about stuff I buy on a regular basis jacking up in price, Trump is uniquely shit for this.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Bump

 

[SecularIslamist]

Just remember the NASDAQ fell 70-80% from its eyes in the late 1990s. So there is plenty of room to fall...

Retards will think they are latching onto a V-shaped recovery because every market down-day and narrative (deepseek, Japan raising interest rates) was swallowed up. That is until tariffs..

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Just remember the NASDAQ fell 70-80% from its eyes in the late 1990s. So there is plenty of room to fall...

Retards will think they are latching onto a V-shaped recovery because every market down-day and narrative (deepseek, Japan raising interest rates) was swallowed up. That is until tariffs..

That NASDAQ thing was largely driven by speculative investments in internet-based companies many of which lacked solid business models. When the bubble burst the NASDAQ declined by 78% by October 2002 erasing nearly all its gains from the bubble period.

Also according to analysts the recent downturns reflect adjustments to economic policies and global trade uncertainties rather than the deflation of an unsustainable market like dot com bubble. They are distinct. This one is harder to recover from because the things driving the decline are forces outside of the secondary market

 

[SecularIslamist]

That NASDAQ thing was largely driven by speculative investments in internet-based companies many of which lacked solid business models. When the bubble burst the NASDAQ declined by 78% by October 2002 erasing nearly all its gains from the bubble period.

Also according to analysts the recent downturns reflect adjustments to economic policies and global trade uncertainties rather than the deflation of an unsustainable market like dot com bubble. They are distinct. This one is harder to recover from because the things driving the decline are forces outside of the secondary market

I don't agree with the second part. We have been in 17 year bull run, with no real bear market. We have had flash crashes (like COVID) which got gobbled up within a month only for the bullrun to continue. Prices are overvalued by every metric out there. The buffet indicator, Schiller P/E ratio - It's still not as high as dotcom bubble era, but it's higher than 1929 and other comparable bubble eras.

Shiller PE Ratio - Multpl

Shiller PE Ratio chart, historic, and current data. Current Shiller PE Ratio is 34.99, a change of +0.24 from previous market close.

www.multpl.com

Buffett Indicator

The only Warren Buffett Indicator to determine current market valuation.

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[Jason Voorhees]

I don't agree with the second part. We have been in 17 year bull run, with no real bear market. We have had flash crashes (like COVID) which got gobbled up within a month only for the bullrun to continue. Prices are overvalued by every metric out there. The buffet indicator, Schiller P/E ratio - It's still not as high as dotcom bubble era, but it's higher than 1929 and other comparable bubble eras.

Shiller PE Ratio - Multpl

Shiller PE Ratio chart, historic, and current data. Current Shiller PE Ratio is 34.99, a change of +0.24 from previous market close.

www.multpl.com

Buffett Indicator

The only Warren Buffett Indicator to determine current market valuation.

buffettindicator.net

That is valid point,historically, markets move in cycles and a severe downturn could be overdue. But whether it's a reset or just another correction remains to be seen.

Also many large companies especially in tech, have strong earnings growth and cash flows in place now. Unlike the dot-com bubblewhere many firms were unprofitable. Today tech companies have real revenue and profits backing their valuations.

So do you think that today's market is still in a speculative phase despite these differences? Or do you think these changes justify higher valuations?

 

[SecularIslamist]

That is valid point,historically, markets move in cycles and a severe downturn could be overdue. But whether it's a reset or just another correction remains to be seen.

Also many large companies especially in tech, have strong earnings growth and cash flows in place now. Unlike the dot-com bubblewhere many firms were unprofitable. Today tech companies have real revenue and profits backing their valuations.

So do you think that today's market is still in a speculative phase despite these differences? Or do you think these changes justify higher valuations?

Are you using AI to type this?

 

[Time]

Praying for a recession.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Are you using AI to type this?

Yes to paraphrase. I make a lot of spelling mistakes because of my phone being too big and hard to type on with one hand but the ideas and points that I made are original.

 

[widdi]

It’s a jewish fakeout. They run this play every few years whenever they think world events are suitably turbulent enough that people won’t blame them for crashing the economy. It’s like when amazon sells items at a loss to increase their market share. With each fakeout smaller investors get pushed out while they are able to take the temporary hit and buy the dip.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

It’s a jewish fakeout. They run this play every few years whenever they think world events are suitably turbulent enough that people won’t blame them for crashing the economy. It’s like when amazon sells items at a loss to increase their market share. With each fakeout smaller investors get pushed out while they are able to take the temporary hit and buy the dip.

Market does move in cycles but how can economic downturns be orchestrated? interest rates, trade policies, and global instability generally shape market movements and how is it possible to fabricate these things?

 

[bourgeoizyzz]

This is clearly not a short-term thing if ev3n the big players are pulling out money. It is the start of a deeper recession or prolonged downturn. If you were to buy the dip you might be waiting for years to even break even. Markets might keep dipping if the underlying issues don't resolve quickly.

so wait a week, then buy the dip, faggot

 

[Jason Voorhees]

so wait a week, then buy the dip, faggot

You are mentally deficient if you are expecting a V recovery like @SecularIslamist said.

 

[bourgeoizyzz]

You are mentally deficient if you are expecting a V recovery like @SecularIslamist said.

that guy says the would is ending every other day

 

[deha-vu]

Oh no my 1millionusd investment

 

[Jason Voorhees]

that guy says the would is ending every other day

Markets do rebond from downturns when central bank intervenes but like @SecularIslamist pointed out if the valuations are inflated, a prolonged corection or even a lost decade like Japan's in 1990 very much possible, likely will take years for a recovery.

 

[widdi]

Market does move in cycles but how can economic downturns be orchestrated? interest rates, trade policies, and global instability generally shape market movements and how is it possible to fabricate these things?

Even if the events were real the reaction could be controlled. Like with the tariff example, suppose trump was genuinely acting on its own violation when he decides to tariff canada. Canada has 3 broad responses

1. Some form of anti tariff (ie devaluing its own currency relative to the dollar to encourage exports to the US to the same degree that tariffs discourage them)
2. Retaliatory tariffs
3. Nuclear option (selling US treasury bonds)

If Canada was an independent actor it would do 3 or 1. But it usually does 2, which accomplishes very little except provide a pretense to fuck up the economy. China is maybe less controlled because it does do option 1 but it still will never do option 3. Everyone seems to be content with letting the USA have this infinite money glitch where they don’t have to worry about debt because international confidence in the dollar never changes. A true recession would actually change the status quo of the dollar as the global reserve currency.

As a side note I think BRICs is also controlled opposition. They’ve been talking about a replacement for the dollar since 2006 yet never even take the first step. If the elites believed trump was making the USA too dangerous to invest in they’d actually get the BRICs reserve currency thing going. They don’t care about America anyways.

 

[fr0st]

Massive market bloodbath: U.S. stock market sheds a staggering $5 trillion in just 3 weeks amid mounting uncertainty, here's what's fueling the Wall Street wipeout

U.S. stock market is facing a severe downturn, shedding $5 trillion in just three weeks as uncertainty grips Wall Street. The S&P 500 has plunged 10% from its peak, with losses fueled by trade war tensions, slowing economic growth, and a sharp decline in AI-related stocks like Nvidia. Analysts...

m.economictimes.com

In just three weeks $5 trillion has vanished, and investors are signalling a bleak future resulting in massive sell off. Why did this happen now? Because of Trump's recent tariff moves. The market doesn’t like uncertainty and with things down, businesses are slowing production, laying people off, halting products and stockpilling cash. The fact that even hedge funds are scaling back on leverage means they're hedging against more volatility.. Household savings are also at a record low. Looks like tough times are coming.

Looks like im gonna have to sell my body to sub5 asian women

 

[gymcel64]

All of this because of that Trump faggot. Muh tariffs muh China. Jfl at giving this much power over trade to a guy that has no idea how to handle debt.

 

[SecularIslamist]

that guy says the would is ending every other day

I mean you're not wrong. Bears call a bubble and they are usually wrong but a broken clock is right twice a day and they've been wrong for a long time so I won't be surprised. The fed has saved the markets and I doubt they will step in all the time. I don't think bubbles are bad the point is 'subberbubbles)


If US stocks (and btw this is mainly a US-led bubble) is in a similar position to 1929, late 60s and 1987, Japan, dotcom era than yeah it's time to stay away possibly for a couple years. But it's far too early to tell now.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@deadstock