The most brutal thing about not being looksmaxxed is the LACK OF RESPECT

[metagross]

Even if you just look average or maybe even below average, you can still get women.
We see it every day. Average men are in relationships. - But the dynamics of these relationships are on a completely different level. You will never have any kind of power in the relationships.

I noticed this myself due to a lot of different experiments on the same girls. Better looks = More power in relationships.
For example: She will never do anal with you, but she would do it if you looked like Chad. Just as an example, but you get the idea. - Your woman will NEVER respect you if you're not great looking. You will be constantly fighting an uphill battle. You will have to entertain her in some way, you will have to be humorous and charming all the time to make up for your bad looks and she will still never respect you as much as she would respect Chad.

This pattern will be seen in the entire relationship. If you aren't good-looking, you WILL be disrespected.

 

[Zyros]

Yes its a strange thing. For me, during my looksmaxxing life, getting girls came BEFORE getting full respect from guys (not respect in relationship, but being looked up to as a guy/having general halo)

Like it was in this order1- full on bullying dissapears,2- start getting girls, 3-get full respect by default. Its strange since one would expect 3 come before 2.

 

[Deleted member 6892]

Height is 100 times more important for respect from guys than face

 

[WadlowMaxxing]

Height is 100 times more important for respect from guys than face

frame+height is what we first subconsciously consider when addressing another man. all the men I never respected in my life, I realize now, all had bad frames/were small overall. even truecel tier guys can still get respect if they're big/rttmaxxed. the only part of face that matters for other men is maybe skull size if thats even considered face but thats part of frame to me

 

[Deleted member 12002]

Even if you just look average or maybe even below average, you can still get women.
We see it every day. Average men are in relationships. - But the dynamics of these relationships are on a completely different level. You will never have any kind of power in the relationships.

I noticed this myself due to a lot of different experiments on the same girls. Better looks = More power in relationships.
For example: She will never do anal with you, but she would do it if you looked like Chad. Just as an example, but you get the idea. - Your woman will NEVER respect you if you're not great looking. You will be constantly fighting an uphill battle. You will have to entertain her in some way, you will have to be humorous and charming all the time to make up for your bad looks and she will still never respect you as much as she would respect Chad.

This pattern will be seen in the entire relationship. If you aren't good-looking, you WILL be disrespected.

This can be somewhat true for initial dealings with the general population. But for relationshps, no. Not at all. It might appear that way at first glance, but 10 times out of 10 the ugly guy's just a beta who's too scared to walk away. Now, whether or not the guy being a beta has anything to do with his ugliness might be something worth talking about.

 

[Deleted member 10987]

Height is 100 times more important for respect from guys than face

Other way around
Height is only important for girls

 

[StressShady]

Other way around
Height is only important for girls

Clint Eastwood huh?

 

[Deleted member 6892]

Other way around
Height is only important for girls

insane cope
if youre tall you get respect

 

[Jagged0]

insane cope
if youre tall you get respect

Completely legit the way men treat me compared to my big framed tall brother is night and day

 

[Growth Plate]

"Just be NT and normie bro"
"I see ugly guys with girlfriends all the time"

 

[Deleted member 10987]

insane cope
if youre tall you get respect

Height is only important for getting pussy retard
Not respect

 

[Deleted member 6892]

Height is only important for getting pussy retard
Not respect

face is cope for respect
height signals dominance
stop coping midget

 

[Deleted member 10987]

face is cope for respect
height signals dominance
stop coping midget

>173 Cm
>call others midgets

JFL
You just a pussy thats why
If girls didnt exist
I would be 100 % pleased with my height
Most lanklets are low t narrow framed faggots
Frame indicate dominance

 

[Deleted member 6892]

>173 Cm
>call others midgets

JFL
You just a pussy thats why
If girls didnt exist
I would be 100 % pleased with my height
Most lanklets are low t narrow framed faggots
Frame indicate dominance

im 182cm at 15 and injecting peptides what the fuck are you talking about

My bio is making fun of an inside joke of me telling other irl people i am 5'8​

 

[Jew_Supremacist]

Even if you just look average or maybe even below average, you can still get women.
We see it every day. Average men are in relationships. - But the dynamics of these relationships are on a completely different level. You will never have any kind of power in the relationships.

I noticed this myself due to a lot of different experiments on the same girls. Better looks = More power in relationships.
For example: She will never do anal with you, but she would do it if you looked like Chad. Just as an example, but you get the idea. - Your woman will NEVER respect you if you're not great looking. You will be constantly fighting an uphill battle. You will have to entertain her in some way, you will have to be humorous and charming all the time to make up for your bad looks and she will still never respect you as much as she would respect Chad.

This pattern will be seen in the entire relationship. If you aren't good-looking, you WILL be disrespected.

OP you're so right. If she denies u sex acts it's 100% lookism tbh. What your face looks like makes her enjoy pleasing you so she'll do anything for you, that is a good litmus test I agree, although I'd caution people to not just break up with a gf who won't do anal if you don't have a different woman or a fleshlight to replace her. I came to the same revelation after seeing the disparate treatment I got at different points in my life. When I was in 10th-11th grade my height and soft tissue features made up for my lack of forward growth enough to make me a chadlite, I was messaging 6/10 to 7/10 foids on tinder saying "dtf?" and it worked, I fucked some that were older than me. Now that I'm high tier normie looks at 21, fat bitches have the nerve to tell me they want to get to know me better before being fwb even if I conduct a quick funny/flirtateous convo with them that goes smoothly. Although, the standards of women has undoubtedly increased on tinder and irl, so part of the change is there. If anyone disagrees and you've never been top x% looks (depends on area can't give exact number) you have never experienced a girl WANTING you to succeed, go chadfish on tinder until you realize you need surgery to ever live a full life. If you're a chad and you disagree with OP... why are you even on this site?