the most important and underrated ratio

[whiteissuperior]

Is FWHR. With a good FWHR and skull shape you can get away with a lot of shit, NCT, bug eyes, asymmetry, shit nose.

A good FWHR looks masculine and 9/10 people with good FWHR have good jaw development. You don't need to be a pretty boy with a good fwhr. Long narrow cucks almost look bad universally, and its very rare to see a good looking long arrow man. they have to have pretty much top tier everything else. But if you have good feelings fwhr you will be HTN minimum.

 

[volcelfatcel]

low fwhr cuck

 

[whiteissuperior]

low fwhr cuck
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Long narrow cucks almost look bad universally, and its very rare to see a good looking long arrow man. they have to have pretty much top tier everything else

 

[thickdickdaddy27]

good FWHR compensates for a lot of failos this is 100% facts.

 

[subhuman incel]

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khabib is a fwhr mogger

 

[gamma]

That's brutal because u can't fix that with surgery

 

[whiteissuperior]

That's brutal because u can't fix that with surgery

Jaw implants and cheek augmentations help

 

[Deleted member 14166]

Is FWHR. With a good FWHR and skull shape you can get away with a lot of shit, NCT, bug eyes, asymmetry, shit nose.

A good FWHR looks masculine and 9/10 people with good FWHR have good jaw development. You don't need to be a pretty boy with a good fwhr. Long narrow cucks almost look bad universally, and its very rare to see a good looking long arrow man. they have to have pretty much top tier everything else. But if you have good feelings fwhr you will be HTN minimum.

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i got 1.93 how good is that?

 

[whiteissuperior]

i got 1.93 how good is that?

God among men

 

[Deleted member 7076]

i got 1.93 how good is that?

what do u use to measure

 

[Deleted member 14166]

what do u use to measure

my orthodontist measured it for me two months ago

he did it with a ruler and caliper the results were concordant its actually 1.929

 

[Deleted member 14166]

God among men

really? how impactful is this measurement

 

[Deleted member 14978]

this study says that fwhr has no association with attractiveness.

No evidence that facial width-to-height ratio (fWHR) is associated with women's sexual desire

Facial width-to-height ratio (fWHR) has been linked to many different behavioral tendencies. However, not all of these correlations have replicated well across samples. Arnocky et al. (in press, Archives of Sexual Behavior) recently reported that sexual desire was correlated with fWHR. The...

journals.plos.org

 

[Deleted member 14166]

Is FWHR. With a good FWHR and skull shape you can get away with a lot of shit, NCT, bug eyes, asymmetry, shit nose.

A good FWHR looks masculine and 9/10 people with good FWHR have good jaw development. You don't need to be a pretty boy with a good fwhr. Long narrow cucks almost look bad universally, and its very rare to see a good looking long arrow man. they have to have pretty much top tier everything else. But if you have good feelings fwhr you will be HTN minimum.

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i completely agree with the jaw development

 

[Deleted member 7076]

my orthodontist measured it for me two months ago

he did it with a ruler and caliper the results were concordant its actually 1.929

is width ur zygos or temples or jaw width

 

[Deleted member 14166]

is width ur zygos or temples or jaw width

https://magnumworkshop.com/fwhr-and-attractiveness/ he followed this methodology

 

[whiteissuperior]

is width ur zygos or temples or jaw width

All of these have an impact but zygos has the biggest impact then jaw

 

[Deleted member 13409]

Too high FWHR isn’t always good, for me it’s a flaw. I have a 2.2 FWHR and would prefer a slightly longer face. I am not short face syndrome, I just have sort of that Muhammad Ali “bully boxer” look. The only upside is that I look perpetually like a college student in my later 20s. I also have a midface ratio of between 1.05 and 1.2, depending on how much of my upper lip you consider. I have a big lip which contributes to a shorter looking face, if you measure to middle of lips though it’s the same as if you measure O’Pry to middle of lips, about 1.02

FWHR and midface are not the same but highly correlated I’d suspect. Ideal FWHR IMO is 2.0, masc without being too wide or short.

 

[whiteissuperior]

Too high FWHR isn’t always good, for me it’s a flaw. I have a 2.2 FWHR and would prefer a slightly longer face. I am not short face syndrome, I just have sort of that Muhammad Ali “bully boxer” look. The only upside is that I look perpetually like a college student in my later 20s. I also have a midface ratio of between 1.05 and 1.2, depending on how much of my upper lip you consider. I have a big lip which contributes to a shorter looking face, if you measure to middle of lips though it’s the same as if you measure O’Pry to middle of lips, about 1.02

FWHR and midface are not the same but highly correlated I’d suspect. Ideal FWHR IMO is 2.0, masc without being too wide or short.

2.0 is comically wide. The guy in the post at 1.9 borders on comically wide. 1.8-1.85 is ideal

 

[Deleted member 13409]

2.0 is comically wide. The guy in the post at 1.9 borders on comically wide. 1.8-1.85 is ideal

2.0 isn’t comically wide at all, I would be 1.9 except for my lip. FWHR is slightly misleading because having big lips can increase you 0.1 to 0.3 FWHR, you can be normal or good width and look normal but have the ratio say otherwise. That said it’s a ratio with a lot of research behind it so I won’t challenge it, that said many studies place 1.9-2.2 as being the most masculine and reasonable ratios. Half the United States presidents are over 2.0. Most CEOs are over 1.8. It’s something that only becomes uncanny at weird ratios like 1.4 or 2.4, the former looks like a nerd and the latter looks like a scary criminal

Obama is someone with a 1.9 FWHR and who looks very normal

 

[Baldingman1998]

Is FWHR. With a good FWHR and skull shape you can get away with a lot of shit, NCT, bug eyes, asymmetry, shit nose.

A good FWHR looks masculine and 9/10 people with good FWHR have good jaw development. You don't need to be a pretty boy with a good fwhr. Long narrow cucks almost look bad universally, and its very rare to see a good looking long arrow man. they have to have pretty much top tier everything else. But if you have good feelings fwhr you will be HTN minimum.

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2.0 is comically wide. The guy in the post at 1.9 borders on comically wide. 1.8-1.85 is ideal

Unironically copium. Mine is 1.83 in selfie and 1.9+ using back camera. Ratios are cope if you don't have hair

 

[whiteissuperior]

Bruh aren’t you like 34 go betabux

 

[Deleted member 14166]

this study says that fwhr has no association with attractiveness.

No evidence that facial width-to-height ratio (fWHR) is associated with women's sexual desire

Facial width-to-height ratio (fWHR) has been linked to many different behavioral tendencies. However, not all of these correlations have replicated well across samples. Arnocky et al. (in press, Archives of Sexual Behavior) recently reported that sexual desire was correlated with fWHR. The...

journals.plos.org

Judging a man by the width of his face: the role of facial ratios and dominance in mate choice at speed-dating events - PubMed

Previous research has shown that men with higher facial width-to-height ratios (fWHRs) have higher testosterone and are more aggressive, more powerful, and more financially successful. We tested whether they are also more attractive to women in the ecologically valid mating context of speed...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[whiteissuperior]

Judging a man by the width of his face: the role of facial ratios and dominance in mate choice at speed-dating events - PubMed

Previous research has shown that men with higher facial width-to-height ratios (fWHRs) have higher testosterone and are more aggressive, more powerful, and more financially successful. We tested whether they are also more attractive to women in the ecologically valid mating context of speed...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I’m not clicking that ip logger

 

[Deleted member 14166]

I’m not clicking that ip logger

its not bro lmao

 

[Deleted member 14166]

I’m not clicking that ip logger

here

 

[sandcelmuttcel]

That's brutal because u can't fix that with surgery

you can.

 

[Julius]

this study says that fwhr has no association with attractiveness.

No evidence that facial width-to-height ratio (fWHR) is associated with women's sexual desire

Facial width-to-height ratio (fWHR) has been linked to many different behavioral tendencies. However, not all of these correlations have replicated well across samples. Arnocky et al. (in press, Archives of Sexual Behavior) recently reported that sexual desire was correlated with fWHR. The...

journals.plos.org

This study is about women's FWHR. Read the studies you link before posting

 

[Deleted member 14978]

this study says that fwhr has no association with attractiveness.

No evidence that facial width-to-height ratio (fWHR) is associated with women's sexual desire

Facial width-to-height ratio (fWHR) has been linked to many different behavioral tendencies. However, not all of these correlations have replicated well across samples. Arnocky et al. (in press, Archives of Sexual Behavior) recently reported that sexual desire was correlated with fWHR. The...

journals.plos.org

This study is about women's FWHR. Read the studies you link before posting

Yeah just realised that. My bad

 

[FuckassBitchass]

you can.

How

 

[Lorsss]

short philtrum is everything

 

[RedstaR]

Fwhr is the best predictor for sexual success and lifetime partner numbers.

 

[whiteissuperior]

Fwhr is the best predictor for sexual success and lifetime partner numbers.

agreed

 

[Crayola CØck]

Fwhr is the best predictor for sexual success and lifetime partner numbers.

Then by that logic most incels would want zygo/midface widening more than anything for lower third, which is cope.

FWHR only correlates in studies of sex because high FWHR usually means PHENOTYPE (of gl pheno men it piques interest of scientifically observed)

If you augment a low FWHR pheno subhuman with high FWHR he will still be incel.

FWHR only appears to matter since -- NATURALLY -- high FWHR is found consistently on MTN-HTN+ (white pheno) guys measured in studies.

But on its own the FWHR does virtually nothing as an add-on to any subhuman pheno lacking it.

Look how wide faced and high FWHR Asian guys tend to be, how well do they do with dating in the U.S.?

LMAO FWHR as a metric is cope, it's only correlation is in its typicalness with decent looking white men.

 

[wombleboy12]

Is FWHR. With a good FWHR and skull shape you can get away with a lot of shit, NCT, bug eyes, asymmetry, shit nose.

A good FWHR looks masculine and 9/10 people with good FWHR have good jaw development. You don't need to be a pretty boy with a good fwhr. Long narrow cucks almost look bad universally, and its very rare to see a good looking long arrow man. they have to have pretty much top tier everything else. But if you have good feelings fwhr you will be HTN minimum.

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my fwhr is 2 and I look like an ogre objectively

 

[Deleted member 45780]

fwhr is a cope lol