The most male dimorphic trait is Frame

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Legit srs btw. Frame is easiest indicator to tell whether someone is a man or woman. The bigger and wider the shoulders are, the more dimorphic you look.

I would go as far to say a woman would find a pair of great shoulders/upper body more attractive/visually stimulating than looking at a great lower third. I’m only talking looking at only lower third, not the whole face.
 
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No frame for your face.
 
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zyros would be such a slayer if he had a bigger frame tbh
 
Yes bro, you can tell if someone is a man or woman from miles away, not by their face, but their frame
 
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NArrOw sHOulders and pencil neck is one of biggest sex appeal killers

Even worse than some lower third issues, or below average eyes
 
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NArrOw sHOulders and pencil neck is one of biggest sex appeal killers

Even worse than some lower third issues, or below average eyes
Could be legit for me. I’m skinny but have good shoulders and skinny neck. Easy fixes though.
 
Could be legit for me. I’m skinny but have good shoulders and skinny neck. Easy fixes though.

When i am observing guys, with good shoulders and neck, barely anyone looks incel

But when i see turkey neck and narrow shoulders, it looks ince AF

Also females i talked sayed narrow shoulders are nono

So dont be too lean, because most people start being asexual, hit the gym or train at home but focus on neck, shoulders, traps, back

U also train arms doing this
 
Both frame and height are dimorphic as they differ between males and females. Facial features are also dimorphic as it also differs. For example low set brows, square chin, etc
 
I have a fairly good frame but it has never helped me. You need everything to be good looking, a single good feature won't make you appealing.
 
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Both frame and height are dimorphic as they differ between males and females. Facial features are also dimorphic as it also differs. For example low set brows, square chin, etc
I’ve seen more women with masculine brows and chin than women with wide-ish shoulder tbh. Not denying facial features aren’t important, but shoulders are extremely dimorphic. You can have a pretty boy face but still have dimorphism in body which gives you respect from men (and your pretty boy face doesn’t get respect from men).
I have a fairly good frame but it has never helped me. You need everything to be good looking, a single good feature won't make you appealing.
Weight and height? When I meet frame, I mean someone who has muscle and good shoulder width.
 
I’ve seen more women with masculine brows and chin than women with wide-ish shoulder tbh. Not denying facial features aren’t important, but shoulders are extremely dimorphic. You can have a pretty boy face but still have dimorphism in body which gives you respect from men (and your pretty boy face doesn’t get respect from men).

Weight and height? When I meet frame, I mean someone who has muscle and good shoulder width.

Men respect men who get laid.
 
One big cope. Frame like height is Just addition to your face. Frame can make you more respected, but still i know framecel around 5'10 height or so who is respected by all the dudes, he play sports well, low inhib so frame itself will help but it won't make you respected by itself unless you're some giant. And what you think about 19' bideltoid at 6'1.5 as skinny dude?
 
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I honestly never notice frame irl. I thnk it's only a failo.
 
its rather overall size including everything, but fat

big = dimorphic, but fat doesnt count for obv. reasons

the bigger your overall fat-free-mass-index, with bones being priority over lean muscle, the higher ur chances are in the dating game
 
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flat occipital bun, wide neck, wide face, good masseters, compact midface, high fwhr, big lower third, low hairline, deep voice, stubble
 
Legit srs btw. Frame is easiest indicator to tell whether someone is a man or woman. The bigger and wider the shoulders are, the more dimorphic you look.

I would go as far to say a woman would find a pair of great shoulders/upper body more attractive/visually stimulating than looking at a great lower third. I’m only talking looking at only lower third, not the whole face.
What about the beard?
 
Ded true tbh tbh ngl. Women like big framed chad. When i see a tallfag with a godlike frame i get angry AS FUCK.
 
My frame is top tier but only gets the occasional guy or girl asking me if i work out
 
My frame is top tier but only gets the occasional guy or girl asking me if i work out

I have 22-23 inch bideltoid depending on posture at 6'2 and no one asks me if I work out. I've been cutting recently and lost a lot of size in my arms a and legs (most of my size was fat) plus I have 6.25 inch wrists and small forearms, so I kinda do look like a framelet while also being wide as fuck.
 
Nah, there are lots of huge white/black women
 
Ded true tbh tbh ngl. Women like big framed chad. When i see a tallfag with a godlike frame i get angry AS FUCK.
I saw a legit Chad yesterday at a music fest shirtless. 6’4, really good frame, tanned. He mogged everyone srs
Men respect men who get laid.
Yeah but they will always respect the really masculine guy first.
What about the beard?
Stubble looks best.
One big cope. Frame like height is Just addition to your face. Frame can make you more respected, but still i know framecel around 5'10 height or so who is respected by all the dudes, he play sports well, low inhib so frame itself will help but it won't make you respected by itself unless you're some giant. And what you think about 19' bideltoid at 6'1.5 as skinny dude?
19” is average. On 6’1.5” it’s slightly below average. Just workout and you will be surprised on how big you can get.
 
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Legit srs btw. Frame is easiest indicator to tell whether someone is a man or woman. The bigger and wider the shoulders are, the more dimorphic you look.

I would go as far to say a woman would find a pair of great shoulders/upper body more attractive/visually stimulating than looking at a great lower third. I’m only talking looking at only lower third, not the whole face.
this is true son
 
frame is cope
 
chin is the most dimorphic sir
 

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