The Most Striking Feature - MAXIMUM Appeal

[psychomandible]

needed this lifefuel after getting my confidence completely shattered

 

[LancasteR]

Sorry to disappoint you dude, but most people don‘t care or even notice this.

 

[nobodyspecial369]

I've seen this feature a lot before and I thought initially it was to do with good Undereyes, but I don't think it's exactly that.

It's called the Inferior Palpebral Sulcus
"Anatomically, the inferior skin crease is seen around 3 to 5 mm below the outer aspect of the lid margin."

I'm referring to a highset Inferior Palpebral Sulcus.
Here is where the fat pads are, they exist below the crease.
View attachment 3278484

Subconsciously, a high-set crease, signals good craniofacial development. Which is why I think it looks so striking.
Latinos and Latinas have this. Alongside African Americans:

View attachment 3278474



Notice how the guy above doesn't have a fold at all. It's a large part of why his eye area is very attractive. Alongside the PFL of course.
Now there do exist people with very tall lower eyelid exposures (distance from margin of lower orbital eyelid rim to Inferior Palpebral Sulcus).

As long as there is Hooding, it isn't bad. But of course it could've been much better.
View attachment 3278587

This is what Salih's eyes (left is good example) look like without it:
View attachment 3278580

The smooth undereye is very mogger.
I believe this is what @Pei was talking about when he was referring to the undereye area, and the signs of Craniofacial Development. Look at Nicki Minaj's. It's smooth with no visible crease with makeup:
View attachment 3278584

Without makeup, her crease is very highset:
View attachment 3278550 View attachment 3278552

@Xangsane At one point in time too had a PFP of this girl with incredible undereyes. Of course her fat pads were very thick, but look at the absence of her crease:
View attachment 3278558View attachment 3278560

The complete opposite of this is a tall lower eyelid like Salih's. It's Lower Eyelid Exposure.

Lower eyelid exposure might be one of the most underlooked things through whole PSL history

u see the lower fat pad ? it looks like a complete shit

looksmax.org

I too noticed that it's a massive looks killer, because the most important feature for looks is health, and LEE can be accompanied with dark circles, infra recession etc. In the thread above, a user mentioned that:
View attachment 3278602

So people can have shit undereye support/ sclera show etc without LEE.

And others like Atesh Salih can have 0 Sclera show, and distance between the margins of the upper and lower eyelids (PFH) can be small, yet they will have the LEE:
View attachment 3278631

Others have said that:
View attachment 3278632

This makes sense for somebody like Salih. When you look at his side:
View attachment 3278643

His Orbital Vector does not look recessed.

The reason why this feature is mogger is because women like this for appeal, with almond UEE.
Ideal is to have zero crease/ very highset crease.

This is an example of a deep crease, where it follows most of the lower eyelid:


@Zeta himself would look much better if there was no crease (from a PSL perspective). His appeal is actually good with the crease, because of his hooded eyes with striking features he would not have any appeal/approachableness:
View attachment 3278666View attachment 3278667

Some PSL Icons/Terrachads with no crease appearance:
View attachment 3278669View attachment 3278672

View attachment 3278676View attachment 3278680View attachment 3278684

Look at the difference between Barrett above, and below:
View attachment 3278689

It ruins his undereye. Whilst it might be more youthful due to Aegyo Sal or whatever bullshit, it would look much better if it was smooth and there was an absence of any indent.

Questions
So my question is does Fat Grafting or Infras help with this? Because if the fat pads are below the crease, then it will only slightly vertically raise the lower margin of the eyelid, but the crease remains.

I figure Infras with vertical augmentation can help, but it's unlikely everybody requires such a drastic surgery. Will the appearance of it be reduced if there is only anterior projection of the Infra area, so less of the eyelid curves around the globe of the eyeball (assuming person is recessed)?
Or will the curve of the eyelid around the eyeball exist even after anterior augmentation (and to the same extent it initially was)?

Is there any way to vertically increase the height of this crease?
Or make the crease less deep?

@Orc @NZb6Air @RealSurgerymax @Allornothing @Zenis

have no idea what you’re saying tbh
and sounds like you are saying aegyo sal is bad which goes against mainstream thought

 

[greycel]

have no idea what you’re saying tbh
and sounds like you are saying aegyo sal is bad which goes against mainstream thought

Look at this dude:


You see no undereye crease right?
How do you achieve that with surgery. Is the reason why ishowspeed doesn't have it because of undereye hollowing?

 

[solodolo]

Maybe fat grafting is the way to go. This is one of the things I’m looking into potentially getting along with rhino.

 

[solodolo]

I've seen this feature a lot before and I thought initially it was to do with good Undereyes, but I don't think it's exactly that.

It's called the Inferior Palpebral Sulcus
"Anatomically, the inferior skin crease is seen around 3 to 5 mm below the outer aspect of the lid margin."

I'm referring to a highset Inferior Palpebral Sulcus.
Here is where the fat pads are, they exist below the crease.
View attachment 3278484

Subconsciously, a high-set crease, signals good craniofacial development. Which is why I think it looks so striking.
Latinos and Latinas have this. Alongside African Americans:

View attachment 3278474



Notice how the guy above doesn't have a fold at all. It's a large part of why his eye area is very attractive. Alongside the PFL of course.
Now there do exist people with very tall lower eyelid exposures (distance from margin of lower orbital eyelid rim to Inferior Palpebral Sulcus).

As long as there is Hooding, it isn't bad. But of course it could've been much better.
View attachment 3278587

This is what Salih's eyes (left is good example) look like without it:
View attachment 3278580

The smooth undereye is very mogger.
I believe this is what @Pei was talking about when he was referring to the undereye area, and the signs of Craniofacial Development. Look at Nicki Minaj's. It's smooth with no visible crease with makeup:
View attachment 3278584

Without makeup, her crease is very highset:
View attachment 3278550 View attachment 3278552

@Xangsane At one point in time too had a PFP of this girl with incredible undereyes. Of course her fat pads were very thick, but look at the absence of her crease:
View attachment 3278558View attachment 3278560

The complete opposite of this is a tall lower eyelid like Salih's. It's Lower Eyelid Exposure.

Lower eyelid exposure might be one of the most underlooked things through whole PSL history

u see the lower fat pad ? it looks like a complete shit

looksmax.org

I too noticed that it's a massive looks killer, because the most important feature for looks is health, and LEE can be accompanied with dark circles, infra recession etc. In the thread above, a user mentioned that:
View attachment 3278602

So people can have shit undereye support/ sclera show etc without LEE.

And others like Atesh Salih can have 0 Sclera show, and distance between the margins of the upper and lower eyelids (PFH) can be small, yet they will have the LEE:
View attachment 3278631

Others have said that:
View attachment 3278632

This makes sense for somebody like Salih. When you look at his side:
View attachment 3278643

His Orbital Vector does not look recessed.

The reason why this feature is mogger is because women like this for appeal, with almond UEE.
Ideal is to have zero crease/ very highset crease.

This is an example of a deep crease, where it follows most of the lower eyelid:


@Zeta himself would look much better if there was no crease (from a PSL perspective). His appeal is actually good with the crease, because of his hooded eyes with striking features he would not have any appeal/approachableness:
View attachment 3278666View attachment 3278667

Some PSL Icons/Terrachads with no crease appearance:
View attachment 3278669View attachment 3278672

View attachment 3278676View attachment 3278680View attachment 3278684

Look at the difference between Barrett above, and below:
View attachment 3278689

It ruins his undereye. Whilst it might be more youthful due to Aegyo Sal or whatever bullshit, it would look much better if it was smooth and there was an absence of any indent.

Questions
So my question is does Fat Grafting or Infras help with this? Because if the fat pads are below the crease, then it will only slightly vertically raise the lower margin of the eyelid, but the crease remains.

I figure Infras with vertical augmentation can help, but it's unlikely everybody requires such a drastic surgery. Will the appearance of it be reduced if there is only anterior projection of the Infra area, so less of the eyelid curves around the globe of the eyeball (assuming person is recessed)?
Or will the curve of the eyelid around the eyeball exist even after anterior augmentation (and to the same extent it initially was)?

Is there any way to vertically increase the height of this crease?
Or make the crease less deep?

@Orc @NZb6Air @RealSurgerymax @Allornothing @Zenis

Did salludon not achieve something similar through surgery? Do you figure it was just lower lid retraction plus fat graft or something else?

 

[Surfsup]

Good thread

 

[greycel]

Did salludon not achieve something similar through surgery? Do you figure it was just lower lid retraction plus fat graft or something else?

No he didn't actually
His lower-eyelid height remained the same/ slightly increased from him squinching to reduce PFH
Which is also why I don't believe he achieved true craniofacial development, but rather masked it with surgeries

Lower lid retraction is to help with sclera show. I'm not sure if it changes what I am talking about. I believe undereye fat grafts do to some extent

 

[Bars]

Then why are east asians so obsessed over this?

 

[greycel]

Then why are east asian so obsessed over this?

Because it's all about rarities
What is good looking is a "positive" rarity.

Most Asians have an absence of a crease:

Which is why they aim for aegyo sal and double eyelids.

For other races, they have a crease.. and it's better to have no crease. It signals good craniofacial development which matters more than striking features in today's society.

This girl still looks subhuman in the after:

Compared to this woman in the "before":

The height of the lower eyelid matters a lot. Especially much more for women

 

[solodolo]

Because it's all about rarities
What is good looking is a "positive" rarity.

Most Asians have an absence of a crease:
View attachment 3304281
Which is why they aim for aegyo sal and double eyelids.

For other races, they have a crease.. and it's better to have no crease. It signals good craniofacial development which matters more than striking features in today's society.

This girl still looks subhuman in the after:
View attachment 3304283

Compared to this woman in the "before":
View attachment 3304285

The height of the lower eyelid matters a lot. Especially much more for women

Literally the missing piece for my eye area.

 

[Deleted member 107111]

 

[_Tigrim_]

Colour of eyes matter more for foid than they do for guys IMO

Idk I feel like it's the opposite. Because light eyes look more striking which is more important for guys since softer features are better for women than men. I noticed it when I saw one of those reels on ig where they change the colour of models with light eyes to brown and the guys looked worse than the women. Big brown doe eyes can still look cute on women whereas lighter eyes make guys look striking.

 

[NoReedemingFeature]

So according to this theory do I have a deformed eye area and bad crease?

@greycel

 

[greycel]

So according to this theory do I have a deformed eye area and bad crease?
View attachment 3336462
@greycel

No you got a very nice eye area with absence of crease

 

[NoReedemingFeature]

No you got a very nice eye area with absence of crease

If that's the case I also happen have a very unprojected lf2 or undereye/cheekbones, so I don't know if that'd correlate to craniofacial development that much

 

[greycel]

If that's the case I also happen have a very unprojected lf2 or undereye/cheekbones, so I don't know if that'd correlate to craniofacial development that much

Can you send me your Side profile in DMs
I'll be able to tell
I can also rate you there

 

[Deleted member 88173]

I've seen this feature a lot before and I thought initially it was to do with good Undereyes, but I don't think it's exactly that.

It's called the Inferior Palpebral Sulcus
"Anatomically, the inferior skin crease is seen around 3 to 5 mm below the outer aspect of the lid margin."

I'm referring to a highset Inferior Palpebral Sulcus.
Here is where the fat pads are, they exist below the crease.
View attachment 3278484

Subconsciously, a high-set crease, signals good craniofacial development. Which is why I think it looks so striking.
Latinos and Latinas have this. Alongside African Americans:

View attachment 3278474



Notice how the guy above doesn't have a fold at all. It's a large part of why his eye area is very attractive. Alongside the PFL of course.
Now there do exist people with very tall lower eyelid exposures (distance from margin of lower orbital eyelid rim to Inferior Palpebral Sulcus).

As long as there is Hooding, it isn't bad. But of course it could've been much better.
View attachment 3278587

This is what Salih's eyes (left is good example) look like without it:
View attachment 3278580

The smooth undereye is very mogger.
I believe this is what @Pei was talking about when he was referring to the undereye area, and the signs of Craniofacial Development. Look at Nicki Minaj's. It's smooth with no visible crease with makeup:
View attachment 3278584

Without makeup, her crease is very highset:
View attachment 3278550 View attachment 3278552

@Xangsane At one point in time too had a PFP of this girl with incredible undereyes. Of course her fat pads were very thick, but look at the absence of her crease:
View attachment 3278558View attachment 3278560

The complete opposite of this is a tall lower eyelid like Salih's. It's Lower Eyelid Exposure.

Lower eyelid exposure might be one of the most underlooked things through whole PSL history

u see the lower fat pad ? it looks like a complete shit

looksmax.org

I too noticed that it's a massive looks killer, because the most important feature for looks is health, and LEE can be accompanied with dark circles, infra recession etc. In the thread above, a user mentioned that:
View attachment 3278602

So people can have shit undereye support/ sclera show etc without LEE.

And others like Atesh Salih can have 0 Sclera show, and distance between the margins of the upper and lower eyelids (PFH) can be small, yet they will have the LEE:
View attachment 3278631

Others have said that:
View attachment 3278632

This makes sense for somebody like Salih. When you look at his side:
View attachment 3278643

His Orbital Vector does not look recessed.

The reason why this feature is mogger is because women like this for appeal, with almond UEE.
Ideal is to have zero crease/ very highset crease.

This is an example of a deep crease, where it follows most of the lower eyelid:


@Zeta himself would look much better if there was no crease (from a PSL perspective). His appeal is actually good with the crease, because of his hooded eyes with striking features he would not have any appeal/approachableness:
View attachment 3278666View attachment 3278667

Some PSL Icons/Terrachads with no crease appearance:
View attachment 3278669View attachment 3278672

View attachment 3278676View attachment 3278680View attachment 3278684

Look at the difference between Barrett above, and below:
View attachment 3278689

It ruins his undereye. Whilst it might be more youthful due to Aegyo Sal or whatever bullshit, it would look much better if it was smooth and there was an absence of any indent.

Questions
So my question is does Fat Grafting or Infras help with this? Because if the fat pads are below the crease, then it will only slightly vertically raise the lower margin of the eyelid, but the crease remains.

I figure Infras with vertical augmentation can help, but it's unlikely everybody requires such a drastic surgery. Will the appearance of it be reduced if there is only anterior projection of the Infra area, so less of the eyelid curves around the globe of the eyeball (assuming person is recessed)?
Or will the curve of the eyelid around the eyeball exist even after anterior augmentation (and to the same extent it initially was)?

Is there any way to vertically increase the height of this crease?
Or make the crease less deep?

@Orc @NZb6Air @RealSurgerymax @Allornothing @Zenis

Yooo
The fuck
I think I have this shit.

This is Salih eye area without LEE ,.


This is mine but bigger eyes .

Eyelashes and eyebrows matters way more than eye color for attracting foids with colored eyes

I got t50 shitskin eyes with long eyelashes and thick eyebrows . Well guess what ?My highschool was full of germans with blue hooded eyes and almost no eyelashes (poor eyebrows and eyelashes). only one turk in my I can remember who had very thick eyebrows . 4 girls lowkey complemented on my...

looksmax.org

I sound delusional and crazy but I won't exchange salih eye area for mine if Salih had t50 eyes .

Because in my case I beleive it gives upper lashes visibility too while also giving illusion of full hooding at the same time .

 

[greycel]

Yooo
The fuck
I think I have this shit.
View attachment 3338393
This is Salih eye area without LEE ,.


This is mine but bigger eyes .

Eyelashes and eyebrows matters way more than eye color for attracting foids with colored eyes

I got t50 shitskin eyes with long eyelashes and thick eyebrows . Well guess what ?My highschool was full of germans with blue hooded eyes and almost no eyelashes (poor eyebrows and eyelashes). only one turk in my I can remember who had very thick eyebrows . 4 girls lowkey complemented on my...

looksmax.org

I sound delusional and crazy but I won't exchange salih eye area for mine if Salih had t50 eyes .

Because in my case I beleive it gives upper lashes visibility too while also giving illusion of full hooding at the same time .

Yeah Salih's hooding is not ideal
Having noticeable UEE increases Appeal. Not just from lashes but it's not a low trust feature like hooding

The Most Striking Feature - MAXIMUM Appeal

I've seen this feature a lot before and I thought initially it was to do with good Undereyes, but I don't think it's exactly that. It's called the Inferior Palpebral Sulcus "Anatomically, the inferior skin crease is seen around 3 to 5 mm below the outer aspect of the lid margin." I'm referring...

looksmax.org

 

[shizuku11111]

so natural aegyo sal?

 

[IOS]

so how to achieve it?

 

[pfl]

Sorry to disappoint you dude, but most people don‘t care or even notice this.

low iq response
they may not notice this feature but subconsciously they will perceive you as more attractive cause of it

 

[laaltin]

Dnr allat, so you don’t like aegyo sal?

 

[PolisCommov]

Can you send me your Side profile in DMs
I'll be able to tell
I can also rate you there

do you know any PSL Slayers that have almond eyes or hunter almond eyes (like Meeks) with an absence of any lower crease? I think Meeks has this crease which lowers his eye appeal from being ideal. Or maybe I'm just confusing it with bad under eye support.

The examples you showed with Hernan Drago and Elias De Poot both have hunter eyes.

 

[greycel]

do you know any PSL Slayers that have almond eyes or hunter almond eyes (like Meeks) with an absence of any lower crease? I think Meeks has this crease which lowers his eye appeal from being ideal. Or maybe I'm just confusing it with bad under eye support.

The examples you showed with Hernan Drago and Elias De Poot both have hunter eyes.

Yeah
Lots of Native American, especially Latino people have those almond eyes with absence of lower crease/ high crease

First one to come to mind would be Marlon

 

[PolisCommov]

Yeah
Lots of Native American, especially Latino people have those almond eyes with absence of lower crease/ high crease

First one to come to mind would be Marlon
View attachment 3635245

Doesn't his under eye support look not ideal though? In that photo idk what causes that if it's something to do with the orbitals. Idk if I know any slayer with almond eyes that has both no lower crease and ideal under eye support.

 

[PolisCommov]

I might be talking about his under eye wrinkles, but is that just due to the skin or is that partly from the bones like the orbitals?

does it have nothing to do with under eye support? hard to tell sometimes the difference

 

[greycel]

Is his under eye support not ideal though? In that photo idk what causes that if it's something to do with the orbitals. Idk if I know any slayer with almond eyes that has both no lower crease and ideal under eye support.

The reward from having as little lower eyelid exposure as possible is far greater than having lower PFH (after the point of no sclera show)

Which means if you have low enough PFH you don't have sclera show, it's not worth to have a crease that starts lower even if you will ultimately get lower PFH from it
I have the latter, and it's a huge appeal killer

If you morph your PFP to have tighter PFH, with a taller lower eyelid exposure
Compared to where he currently is, with none (or very little), he'd benefit from the latter

It's unbelievably striking in motion. It often correlates with good midface development, which means the entire craniofacial structure developed ideally

 

[PolisCommov]

The reward from having as little lower eyelid exposure as possible is far greater than having lower PFH (after the point of no sclera show)

Which means if you have low enough PFH you don't have sclera show, it's not worth to have a crease that starts lower even if you will ultimately get lower PFH from it
I have the latter, and it's a huge appeal killer

If you morph your PFP to have tighter PFH, with a taller lower eyelid exposure
Compared to where he currently is, with none (or very little), he'd benefit from the latter

It's unbelievably striking in motion. It often correlates with good midface development, which means the entire craniofacial structure developed ideally
View attachment 3635274

So you're saying it's better to have vertically narrow eyes than to have the lower crease.

Of any of the almond eye Slayers in this post do any of them not have the crease, idk if I just have bad eye judgement.

Almond eyes are ideal, hunter eyes aren't.

Huter eyes like David Gandy, Sean Opry etc aren't ideal, and completely PSL autistic male gaze. Almond mogs, PSL wise yes Hunter, but in appeal almond eyes far mogs, that doesnt mean hunter eyes are untatractive, but girls prefer someone like, Hexum, Vasily, Alain Delon, michal mzarik, Vito...

looksmax.org

 

[greycel]

So you're saying it's better to have vertically narrow eyes than to have the lower crease.

Of any of the almond eye Slayers in this post do any of them not have the crease, idk if I just have bad eye judgement.

Almond eyes are ideal, hunter eyes aren't.

Huter eyes like David Gandy, Sean Opry etc aren't ideal, and completely PSL autistic male gaze. Almond mogs, PSL wise yes Hunter, but in appeal almond eyes far mogs, that doesnt mean hunter eyes are untatractive, but girls prefer someone like, Hexum, Vasily, Alain Delon, michal mzarik, Vito...

looksmax.org

I'm saying the opposite. Having even vertically narrower eyes does not matter more than having a smaller lower eyelid exposure, assuming in both situations there isn't sclera show

He's a good example. Check this video:


He even has slight sclera show, but his youthful fat pads, and lack of lower eyelid exposure makes his almond eyes very easy to look at (of course in addition to his high set lateral canthus)

 

[PolisCommov]

I'm saying the opposite. Having even vertically narrower eyes does not matter more than having a smaller lower eyelid exposure, assuming in both situations there isn't sclera show

View attachment 3635282

He's a good example. Check this video:


He even has slight sclera show, but his youthful fat pads, and lack of lower eyelid exposure makes his almond eyes very easy to look at (of course in addition to his high set lateral canthus)

I thought Mrazik was the closest to looking like he didn't have any in that picture and clip from when he was younger, but I checked his instagram nowadays. Doesn't he have it in these pictures?

 

[greycel]

I thought Mrazik was the closest to looking like he didn't have any in that picture and clip from when he was younger, but I checked his instagram nowadays. Doesn't he have it in these pictures?

Yeah in these you see the indent, but also in general whenever people smile you will see the PFH decrease, and eyes become vertically smaller, with the fat from the lower part of the face moving up causing the indent..

So you'll have to find one where he isn't smiling, and then compare

 

[UWILLNEVERKNOW8]

I've seen this feature a lot before and I thought initially it was to do with good Undereyes, but I don't think it's exactly that.

It's called the Inferior Palpebral Sulcus
"Anatomically, the inferior skin crease is seen around 3 to 5 mm below the outer aspect of the lid margin."

I'm referring to a highset Inferior Palpebral Sulcus.
Here is where the fat pads are, they exist below the crease.
View attachment 3278484

Subconsciously, a high-set crease, signals good craniofacial development. Which is why I think it looks so striking.
Latinos and Latinas have this. Alongside African Americans:

View attachment 3278474



Notice how the guy above doesn't have a fold at all. It's a large part of why his eye area is very attractive. Alongside the PFL of course.
Now there do exist people with very tall lower eyelid exposures (distance from margin of lower orbital eyelid rim to Inferior Palpebral Sulcus).

As long as there is Hooding, it isn't bad. But of course it could've been much better.
View attachment 3278587

This is what Salih's eyes (left is good example) look like without it:
View attachment 3278580

The smooth undereye is very mogger.
I believe this is what @Pei was talking about when he was referring to the undereye area, and the signs of Craniofacial Development. Look at Nicki Minaj's. It's smooth with no visible crease with makeup:
View attachment 3278584

Without makeup, her crease is very highset:
View attachment 3278550 View attachment 3278552

@Xangsane At one point in time too had a PFP of this girl with incredible undereyes. Of course her fat pads were very thick, but look at the absence of her crease:
View attachment 3278558View attachment 3278560

The complete opposite of this is a tall lower eyelid like Salih's. It's Lower Eyelid Exposure.

Lower eyelid exposure might be one of the most underlooked things through whole PSL history

u see the lower fat pad ? it looks like a complete shit

looksmax.org

I too noticed that it's a massive looks killer, because the most important feature for looks is health, and LEE can be accompanied with dark circles, infra recession etc. In the thread above, a user mentioned that:
View attachment 3278602

So people can have shit undereye support/ sclera show etc without LEE.

And others like Atesh Salih can have 0 Sclera show, and distance between the margins of the upper and lower eyelids (PFH) can be small, yet they will have the LEE:
View attachment 3278631

Others have said that:
View attachment 3278632

This makes sense for somebody like Salih. When you look at his side:
View attachment 3278643

His Orbital Vector does not look recessed.

The reason why this feature is mogger is because women like this for appeal, with almond UEE.
Ideal is to have zero crease/ very highset crease.

This is an example of a deep crease, where it follows most of the lower eyelid:


@Zeta himself would look much better if there was no crease (from a PSL perspective). His appeal is actually good with the crease, because of his hooded eyes with striking features he would not have any appeal/approachableness:
View attachment 3278666View attachment 3278667

Some PSL Icons/Terrachads with no crease appearance:
View attachment 3278669View attachment 3278672

View attachment 3278676View attachment 3278680View attachment 3278684

Look at the difference between Barrett above, and below:
View attachment 3278689

It ruins his undereye. Whilst it might be more youthful due to Aegyo Sal or whatever bullshit, it would look much better if it was smooth and there was an absence of any indent.

Questions
So my question is does Fat Grafting or Infras help with this? Because if the fat pads are below the crease, then it will only slightly vertically raise the lower margin of the eyelid, but the crease remains.

I figure Infras with vertical augmentation can help, but it's unlikely everybody requires such a drastic surgery. Will the appearance of it be reduced if there is only anterior projection of the Infra area, so less of the eyelid curves around the globe of the eyeball (assuming person is recessed)?
Or will the curve of the eyelid around the eyeball exist even after anterior augmentation (and to the same extent it initially was)?

Is there any way to vertically increase the height of this crease?
Or make the crease less deep?

@Orc @NZb6Air @RealSurgerymax @Allornothing @Zenis

high iq thread

 

[PolisCommov]

Yeah in these you see the indent, but also in general whenever people smile you will see the PFH decrease, and eyes become vertically smaller, with the fat from the lower part of the face moving up causing the indent..

So you'll have to find one where he isn't smiling, and then compare

Would you say all the other guys there in that post had the crease though (Bomer/Hexum/Vasily/Delon, not sure about Basso)? Trouble finding good pics that are recent of this guy where isn't smiling.

 

[PolisCommov]

I think Basso has it as well

 

[greycel]

Would you say all the other guys there in that post had the crease though (Bomer/Hexum/Vasily/Delon, not sure about Basso)? Trouble finding good pics that are recent of this guy where isn't smiling.

It's hard to tell with the others because of angles

Look, this is what I mean:


It's the best example I can find. You see his undereye area is smooth and there's no indent anywhere?

 

[greycel]

I think Basso has it as well

Yeah he has it, but it's vertically short in the entirety of his face height, it's practically marginal

 

[PolisCommov]

It's hard to tell with the others because of angles

Look, this is what I mean:


It's the best example I can find. You see his undereye area is smooth and there's no indent anywhere?

You're talking about Pereira, the first guy when the video starts playing right? I think he doesn't have any yeah.

but ngl I think virtually everyone that doesn't have hunter eyes or monolid eyes just looks like they have it to me when I search different photos of them. Marlon is the only slayer I've seen so far that has almond eyes and definitely doesn't have it. But he still has under eye wrinkles despite being only 23, which is a minor failo for his under eye area. It looks like this is a hunter eye slayer trait mostly.

 

[greycel]

You're talking about Pereira, the first guy when the video starts playing right? I think he doesn't have any yeah.

but ngl I think virtually everyone that doesn't have hunter eyes or monolid eyes just looks like they have it to me when I search different photos of them. Marlon is the only slayer I've seen so far that has almond eyes and definitely doesn't have it. But he still has under eye wrinkles despite being only 23, which is a minor failo. It looks like this is a hunter eye slayer trait mostly.

There's lots of them bro
You'll mostly find these with mixed race kids (esp mulattos) and latinos/latinas

In the original post I showed a few examples, e.g. guy on tiktok

And yeah was talking about AP

 

[PolisCommov]

There's lots of them bro
You'll mostly find these with mixed race kids (esp mulattos) and latinos/latinas

In the original post I showed a few examples, e.g. guy on tiktok

And yeah was talking about AP

yeah but I meant like the guys the forum usually posts that I'm more familiar with, I'm sure I've seen some on tiktok but I don't remember them.

 

[Askeladd93270]

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[greycel]

Dnr but aegyo sal is my favorite features you can upgrade them with volufiline

 

[Askeladd93270]

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What?

 

[Beniceandkind]

low iq