The MOST Underrated Bodybuilding Compound - An Introduction to Insulin

[AtrophicPyra]

500 test is overkill. There is studies that say that anything more than 250 is low ROI and can really fuck you up.

Insulin does work as anabolic but idk if it's really worth to use if you aren't professional bodybuilder like making money from it.

I knew a guy who ran insulin and tren because he bit plateu at regular gear.

dude if u want more insulin just eat more carbs

 

[scylla]

A few questions:

1) What do you think of just insulin and hgh with no test?

2) My insulin resistance is still bad even tho I am on 12mg Reta, should I avoid insulin altogether?

3) why not during cutting phases?

4)

Did you mention this? I read the whole thread but maybe I didn’t understand.

5) I am on 12IU HGH, should I do like 2 pre 2 post and 8 before sleeping or 6 before and 6 after better?

Can you take insulin without hgh or aas will it have same good effects?

 

[AtrophicPyra]

Carb intake is VERY important to ensure you have enough nutrients to direct to both muscles AND vitals, so that you don’t go hypo. The general rule of thumb is 1IU Insulin per 10g Carbs, but I personally prefer to have a bit more Carbs than that; better safe than sorry, you know? Not only that, but it’s best to also have an appropriate Carb intake throughout your workout, as lifting depletes your glycogen stores pretty fucking hard. My personal recommendation is a carbohydrate blend that comes in powder form, as it is very easy to prepare and consume Pre and Mid-Workout. For Post-Workout Carbs, I recommend getting them from High GI food (The GI Index being a system, which ranks different foods from 1 to 100, depending on the speed, at which they raise Glucose levels).

absloute jester everybody has different insulin to carb ratios and not just that but most teenagers have an insulin to carb ratio of 1;4, go do ur research and stop sucking dick for reps

Blood Glucose Monitor and optimally, use it three times a day.

3 times a day are u fucking serious, nigga is trying to take lives

 

[AtrophicPyra]

There is no need to dose Insulin too high, as the benefit it will bring will be pretty marginal compared to the risks and pain in the ass it can create. With that said, I personally know a 15 year-old low-inhib guy, who used to take 60 or 70 units of NovoRapid per day (with proof) and was completely fine, although again, this is completely anecdotal, and he is still an idiot for doing that. It simply shows that Insulin does not equate to “muh instant death”.

fun fact if you dont know your insulin to carb ratio and lets say for example its 1;4 due to puberty, and u take 1;10 doses its not gonna do shit, you would be better off licking cum off the walls than burn money on insulin. not to mention if somebody's insulin to carb ratio is 1;15-1;20 or higher and they have good insulin sensitivity, you could practically kill them with this info and make them inject 20 ius or 10 ius which is equivalent to 150g-200 of carbs or 300-400g of carbs.

and this will 100% definitely kill someone if they inject after workout as your more insulin sensitive AND your glycogen is depleted meaning your liver cant save you if ur in hypoglycemia

do research you brick

 

[AtrophicPyra]

Carb intake is VERY important to ensure you have enough nutrients to direct to both muscles AND vitals, so that you don’t go hypo. The general rule of thumb is 1IU Insulin per 10g Carbs, but I personally prefer to have a bit more Carbs than that; better safe than sorry, you know? Not only that, but it’s best to also have an appropriate Carb intake throughout your workout, as lifting depletes your glycogen stores pretty fucking hard. My personal recommendation is a carbohydrate blend that comes in powder form, as it is very easy to prepare and consume Pre and Mid-Workout. For Post-Workout Carbs, I recommend getting them from High GI food (The GI Index being a system, which ranks different foods from 1 to 100, depending on the speed, at which they raise Glucose levels).

yk u could just do this and take a "carbohydrate blend" and your pancreas will secrete the same amount of insulin with NO risk of hypoglycemia right? it will still signal liver to produce igf1. also, taking 100g of carbs isnt saving u from hypoglycemia if your glycogen stores are depleted

 

[Seven]

good thread

 

[Seven]

good thread

 

[LTNUser]

good thread

good thread

Thread so good blud replied the same thing twice

 

[Seven]

Thread so good blud replied the same thing twice

network issue*

 

[birthdefect]

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An Introduction to Insulin
By Sadist

Spoiler: DISCLAIMERS

DISCLAIMER 1:
By no means is this medical advice. Everyone is different and some people may respond to this differently to others. Consult with a medical professional for the safest ways to make use of the info you’re about to find out.

DISCLAIMER 2:
This thread is directed at advanced AAS users only. I recommend running at least 2-3 cycles before implementing Insulin into your stack.

Thread Song:


​

---

Preface:


For some reason, I have barely seen anybody talk about pairing Insulin with hGH and AAS on this forum - and it has always really surprised me, as its benefits are very significant.

I have always had everything locked in: training, recovery, macros, gear, etc., yet have always struggled with gaining muscle. That is, until I figured out that my metabolism is batshit insane, and the issue was simply due to the way my body utilizes nutrients. Biologically, the human body does not require to hold onto a lot of muscle mass to function properly, instead focusing on utilizing the nutrients it receives to survive and ensure that all the vital parts are nourished. Even after that happens to be the case, the body is still quite reluctant to direct nutrients towards muscle recovery, directing them to other miscellaneous parts, besides just muscles. This is exactly why you need to eat like a fucking dog in order to get any significant gains, unless you’re myostatin deficient.

The three main pathways of anabolism are Testosterone, IGF-1 (hGH) and Insulin. Each one of them is responsible for a different way, in which myogenesis is assisted, through promoting protein synthesis via their own mechanisms. Whilst the former two are well-known, the latter one seems otherwise - and in this guide, I will break down this pathway, and how to properly take advantage of it.

​

---

Table of Contents:


I
How Does Insulin Work and What are Its Benefits?

II
Side Effects and Risks Related to Insulin

III
Dosing, Protocol & Misc Info

IV
Conclusion


Without further ado, let’s get you proper fucking jacked.




​

---

I
How Does Insulin Work and What are Its Benefits?



Insulin is widely regarded as the most anabolic compound you can take. And that is for a good reason. Insulin works by interacting with GLUT4 receptors, which greatly ascends nutrient partitioning, specifically amino acids and glucose, sending a very good chunk of them straight into muscle cells. By doing this, it essentially helps you overcome the issues described in the preface, by basically telling your body to stop LDARing - and use the nutrients that you stuff your mug with to ascend and thrive, instead of forcing you to live in misery as a sad skinny chud. Now this, of course, does not mean that your body will start neglecting all your vitals and solely focus on building muscle all of a sudden - not at all. That is, of course, if you ensure correct (thus obviously, sufficient) nutrient intake. Insulin also directly synergizes with hGH and Testosterone pretty fucking well.


View attachment 4721516

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II
Side Effects and Risks Related to Insulin:



Just like a lot of other compounds, Insulin use is heavily fear-mongered. A lot of high inhib faggots will never cease to yell shit like “don’t use slin, you can easily die from your very first injection!”. Bullshit. Similarly to compounds like DNP, as long as you are not a retard, take Insulin at proper doses, and do all other required things (which are pretty fucking effortless, mind you) - you will be completely fine. Below, I will list all most common potential side effects that can occur from Insulin usage, although again, do consider that you may pretty much only get them if your IQ is sub-80:



Hypoglycemia - Insulin, quite obviously, lowers blood sugar. This is actually the shit that can potentially kill you if you take it carelessly;

Insulin resistance - prolonged exogenous Insulin usage will make your body tolerant to it, and therefore may spike your baseline glucose levels slightly upon discontinuation. However, there is a very easy fix for that, that I will touch on shortly;

Hypokalemia - intake enough electrolytes;

Injection site reactions - just pin properly.



Now that we have those covered, I will tell you exactly how to avoid each and every single one of them through using Insulin properly.

​

---

III
Insulin Dosing, Protocol & Misc. Info:

Rapid-Acting Insulin is the superior option. And it is so simply due to the fact that you have way more control over it, as compared to its Long-Acting counterpart. The half-life of the former is mere 2-5 hours, whilst the latter varies anywhere from 25 to 45 hours. This makes Rapid very convenient to use, as we will be administering it in a peri-workout fashion.

There is no need to dose Insulin too high, as the benefit it will bring will be pretty marginal compared to the risks and pain in the ass it can create. With that said, I personally know a 15 year-old low-inhib guy, who used to take 60 or 70 units of NovoRapid per day (with proof) and was completely fine, although again, this is completely anecdotal, and he is still an idiot for doing that. It simply shows that Insulin does not equate to “muh instant death”.

Before we go any further, it is CRUCIAL you buy a Blood Glucose Monitor and optimally, use it three times a day. The generally agreed-upon optimal baseline Glucose Levels are 3.9-5.4mmol/L fasted and below 7.8mmol/L unfasted.

We will be dosing Rapid-Acting Insulin at 5-15IU per day. You can go up to 20IU, but I simply think there is no need.

As mentioned above, it is best to take Insulin (but also hGH) is peri-workout, to maximize its efficiency. The way to do it is to simply split the dose in half, and take one half pre, and the other one post workout. I heavily suggest pairing Insulin with hGH at the very least, but obviously also ideally with AAS.

Carb intake is VERY important to ensure you have enough nutrients to direct to both muscles AND vitals, so that you don’t go hypo. The general rule of thumb is 1IU Insulin per 10g Carbs, but I personally prefer to have a bit more Carbs than that; better safe than sorry, you know? Not only that, but it’s best to also have an appropriate Carb intake throughout your workout, as lifting depletes your glycogen stores pretty fucking hard. My personal recommendation is a carbohydrate blend that comes in powder form, as it is very easy to prepare and consume Pre and Mid-Workout. For Post-Workout Carbs, I recommend getting them from High GI food (The GI Index being a system, which ranks different foods from 1 to 100, depending on the speed, at which they raise Glucose levels).

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I also recommend taking around 25g Protein Pre-Workout (and obviously a sufficient amount Post, but that’s water). Appropriate Post-Workout Electrolyte intake is also recommended to further avoid feeling like shit, which I recommend getting from both food AND a serving of powdered electrolytes/supplements.

Below, I will demonstrate both the sequence, in which you should take your compounds, and give my example.



The sequence should go as follows:


Pre-Workout:
Insulin > hGH > Liquid Carbs + Liquid Protein;


Mid-Workout:
Set > Few sips of Liquid Carbs;


Post-workout:
Insulin > hGH > High GI Food Carbs + Food Protein + Food AND Powdered Electrolytes.



My Example
(again, do keep in mind that my carb intake is slightly higher than the bare minimum):


Total Per Day - 10IU NovoRapid, 4IU hGh, 300g Carbs (peri-workout only) + Electrolytes

with the sequence being:


Pre-Workout:
5IU Insulin > 2IU hGh > 100g Liquid Carbs + 25g Liquid Protein;


Mid-Workout:
Set > Few sips of Carbs (100g total);


Post-Workout:
5IU Insulin > 2IU hGh > (at least) 100g High GI Food Carbs + 50g Food Protein + 1 serving of Electrolyte Blend ON TOP of Electrolytes I get from food.



Let me reiterate: as long as you ingest enough carbs & electrolytes at adequate Insulin doses, you should be completely fine.

Regarding Insulin resistance, Insulin should only be used throughout your blasts (16 weeks being the ideal timeframe). After that (relatively short) period, your body should quite effortlessly return to baseline resistance, even if you don’t do anything about it. However, it’s best that you keep lifting regularly after the blast ends, AND shred as quickly as possible (as higher bodyfat has been shown to contribute to Insulin Resistance over and over again).

Last thing to note (although should be fucking obvious) is to double-check the amount of units per click on YOUR pen.

​

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IV
Conclusion:

Insulin will give you pretty fucking solid gains if paired with AAS and hGH. It is piss easy to use, is not expensive, and it’s pretty unlikely to buy some boof shit, since it’s quite easy to source it pretty much anywhere.

To summarize: Stay consistent, consume appropriate nutrients (especially Carbs), monitor Blood Glucose frequently, don’t OD, train even post-cycle, and ideally, shred as quickly as possible after said cycle (DNP & GLP-1 Agonists are your best friends for that).
And above all else - enjoy your slayer Sik Kunt lives.

​

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Tags: @Menas @Chad @Orka @AverageTevvezFan @SlayerJonas​

marvellous guide
i know its completely implausible and unrealistic but would mecasermin be better? on both anabolic and metabolic synergy with gh

 

[ImaDuckyMan]

View attachment 4719765

An Introduction to Insulin
By Sadist

Spoiler: DISCLAIMERS

DISCLAIMER 1:
By no means is this medical advice. Everyone is different and some people may respond to this differently to others. Consult with a medical professional for the safest ways to make use of the info you’re about to find out.

DISCLAIMER 2:
This thread is directed at advanced AAS users only. I recommend running at least 2-3 cycles before implementing Insulin into your stack.

Thread Song:


​

---

Preface:


For some reason, I have barely seen anybody talk about pairing Insulin with hGH and AAS on this forum - and it has always really surprised me, as its benefits are very significant.

I have always had everything locked in: training, recovery, macros, gear, etc., yet have always struggled with gaining muscle. That is, until I figured out that my metabolism is batshit insane, and the issue was simply due to the way my body utilizes nutrients. Biologically, the human body does not require to hold onto a lot of muscle mass to function properly, instead focusing on utilizing the nutrients it receives to survive and ensure that all the vital parts are nourished. Even after that happens to be the case, the body is still quite reluctant to direct nutrients towards muscle recovery, directing them to other miscellaneous parts, besides just muscles. This is exactly why you need to eat like a fucking dog in order to get any significant gains, unless you’re myostatin deficient.

The three main pathways of anabolism are Testosterone, IGF-1 (hGH) and Insulin. Each one of them is responsible for a different way, in which myogenesis is assisted, through promoting protein synthesis via their own mechanisms. Whilst the former two are well-known, the latter one seems otherwise - and in this guide, I will break down this pathway, and how to properly take advantage of it.

​

---

Table of Contents:


I
How Does Insulin Work and What are Its Benefits?

II
Side Effects and Risks Related to Insulin

III
Dosing, Protocol & Misc Info

IV
Conclusion


Without further ado, let’s get you proper fucking jacked.




​

---

I
How Does Insulin Work and What are Its Benefits?



Insulin is widely regarded as the most anabolic compound you can take. And that is for a good reason. Insulin works by interacting with GLUT4 receptors, which greatly ascends nutrient partitioning, specifically amino acids and glucose, sending a very good chunk of them straight into muscle cells. By doing this, it essentially helps you overcome the issues described in the preface, by basically telling your body to stop LDARing - and use the nutrients that you stuff your mug with to ascend and thrive, instead of forcing you to live in misery as a sad skinny chud. Now this, of course, does not mean that your body will start neglecting all your vitals and solely focus on building muscle all of a sudden - not at all. That is, of course, if you ensure correct (thus obviously, sufficient) nutrient intake. Insulin also directly synergizes with hGH and Testosterone pretty fucking well.


View attachment 4721516

​

---

II
Side Effects and Risks Related to Insulin:



Just like a lot of other compounds, Insulin use is heavily fear-mongered. A lot of high inhib faggots will never cease to yell shit like “don’t use slin, you can easily die from your very first injection!”. Bullshit. Similarly to compounds like DNP, as long as you are not a retard, take Insulin at proper doses, and do all other required things (which are pretty fucking effortless, mind you) - you will be completely fine. Below, I will list all most common potential side effects that can occur from Insulin usage, although again, do consider that you may pretty much only get them if your IQ is sub-80:



Hypoglycemia - Insulin, quite obviously, lowers blood sugar. This is actually the shit that can potentially kill you if you take it carelessly;

Insulin resistance - prolonged exogenous Insulin usage will make your body tolerant to it, and therefore may spike your baseline glucose levels slightly upon discontinuation. However, there is a very easy fix for that, that I will touch on shortly;

Hypokalemia - intake enough electrolytes;

Injection site reactions - just pin properly.



Now that we have those covered, I will tell you exactly how to avoid each and every single one of them through using Insulin properly.

​

---

III
Insulin Dosing, Protocol & Misc. Info:

Rapid-Acting Insulin is the superior option. And it is so simply due to the fact that you have way more control over it, as compared to its Long-Acting counterpart. The half-life of the former is mere 2-5 hours, whilst the latter varies anywhere from 25 to 45 hours. This makes Rapid very convenient to use, as we will be administering it in a peri-workout fashion.

There is no need to dose Insulin too high, as the benefit it will bring will be pretty marginal compared to the risks and pain in the ass it can create. With that said, I personally know a 15 year-old low-inhib guy, who used to take 60 or 70 units of NovoRapid per day (with proof) and was completely fine, although again, this is completely anecdotal, and he is still an idiot for doing that. It simply shows that Insulin does not equate to “muh instant death”.

Before we go any further, it is CRUCIAL you buy a Blood Glucose Monitor and optimally, use it three times a day. The generally agreed-upon optimal baseline Glucose Levels are 3.9-5.4mmol/L fasted and below 7.8mmol/L unfasted.

We will be dosing Rapid-Acting Insulin at 5-15IU per day. You can go up to 20IU, but I simply think there is no need.

As mentioned above, it is best to take Insulin (but also hGH) is peri-workout, to maximize its efficiency. The way to do it is to simply split the dose in half, and take one half pre, and the other one post workout. I heavily suggest pairing Insulin with hGH at the very least, but obviously also ideally with AAS.

Carb intake is VERY important to ensure you have enough nutrients to direct to both muscles AND vitals, so that you don’t go hypo. The general rule of thumb is 1IU Insulin per 10g Carbs, but I personally prefer to have a bit more Carbs than that; better safe than sorry, you know? Not only that, but it’s best to also have an appropriate Carb intake throughout your workout, as lifting depletes your glycogen stores pretty fucking hard. My personal recommendation is a carbohydrate blend that comes in powder form, as it is very easy to prepare and consume Pre and Mid-Workout. For Post-Workout Carbs, I recommend getting them from High GI food (The GI Index being a system, which ranks different foods from 1 to 100, depending on the speed, at which they raise Glucose levels).

View attachment 4721498

I also recommend taking around 25g Protein Pre-Workout (and obviously a sufficient amount Post, but that’s water). Appropriate Post-Workout Electrolyte intake is also recommended to further avoid feeling like shit, which I recommend getting from both food AND a serving of powdered electrolytes/supplements.

Below, I will demonstrate both the sequence, in which you should take your compounds, and give my example.



The sequence should go as follows:


Pre-Workout:
Insulin > hGH > Liquid Carbs + Liquid Protein;


Mid-Workout:
Set > Few sips of Liquid Carbs;


Post-workout:
Insulin > hGH > High GI Food Carbs + Food Protein + Food AND Powdered Electrolytes.



My Example
(again, do keep in mind that my carb intake is slightly higher than the bare minimum):


Total Per Day - 10IU NovoRapid, 4IU hGh, 300g Carbs (peri-workout only) + Electrolytes

with the sequence being:


Pre-Workout:
5IU Insulin > 2IU hGh > 100g Liquid Carbs + 25g Liquid Protein;


Mid-Workout:
Set > Few sips of Carbs (100g total);


Post-Workout:
5IU Insulin > 2IU hGh > (at least) 100g High GI Food Carbs + 50g Food Protein + 1 serving of Electrolyte Blend ON TOP of Electrolytes I get from food.



Let me reiterate: as long as you ingest enough carbs & electrolytes at adequate Insulin doses, you should be completely fine.

Regarding Insulin resistance, Insulin should only be used throughout your blasts (16 weeks being the ideal timeframe). After that (relatively short) period, your body should quite effortlessly return to baseline resistance, even if you don’t do anything about it. However, it’s best that you keep lifting regularly after the blast ends, AND shred as quickly as possible (as higher bodyfat has been shown to contribute to Insulin Resistance over and over again).

Last thing to note (although should be fucking obvious) is to double-check the amount of units per click on YOUR pen.

​

---

IV
Conclusion:

Insulin will give you pretty fucking solid gains if paired with AAS and hGH. It is piss easy to use, is not expensive, and it’s pretty unlikely to buy some boof shit, since it’s quite easy to source it pretty much anywhere.

To summarize: Stay consistent, consume appropriate nutrients (especially Carbs), monitor Blood Glucose frequently, don’t OD, train even post-cycle, and ideally, shred as quickly as possible after said cycle (DNP & GLP-1 Agonists are your best friends for that).
And above all else - enjoy your slayer Sik Kunt lives.

​

---

Tags: @Menas @Chad @Orka @AverageTevvezFan @SlayerJonas​

Dnr good job on high effort thread tho

 

[Sadist]

How much weight did u gain during the 16 week slin cycle?
I would say slin one of the best weight gainers there is.

i’m currently on week 5 and gained around 7 kilos

thats also considering that i couldn’t train in some weeks and that my diet recently has been pretty fucked. i’m bouncing back tho

 

[Sadist]

500 test is overkill. There is studies that say that anything more than 250 is low ROI and can really fuck you up.

not at all. in fact, a lot of literature points towards that upper bound being 500mg. and then theres me on 1g being healthier than most natties

Insulin does work as anabolic but idk if it's really worth to use if you aren't professional bodybuilder like making money from it.

no reason not to

I knew a guy who ran insulin and tren because he bit plateu at regular gear.

fair enough

marvellous guide
i know its completely implausible and unrealistic but would mecasermin be better? on both anabolic and metabolic synergy with gh

increlex is pharma igf-1, not insulin. standalone igf in general has always been a sketchy concept to me, but i did hear that increlex does work way better than regular igf. either way, fuck that shit for how much it costs, the roi really isnt there.

 

[Sadist]

Can you take insulin without hgh or aas will it have same good effects?

it will help but nowhere near as much as in combination, as it has insane synergy with both aas and hgh through a multitude of factors, as mentioned in the thread.

 

[birthdefect]

increlex is pharma igf-1, not insulin. standalone igf in general has always been a sketchy concept to me, but i did hear that increlex does work way better than regular igf. either way, fuck that shit for how much it costs, the roi really isnt there.

what is the difference between pharma igf1 and "standalone" igf1? i know neither is insulin itself (literally in the name jfl)
when you say regular igf1 are you referring to its analogues like igf1 lr3? and yea i mean purely biochemically, is it better for myo anabolism?

 

[Sadist]

yeah bro go inject ur 10ius of insulin meanwhile im eating 100g of carbs and my pancreas is secreting the same amount of insulin u fucking jester

dude if u want more insulin just eat more carbs

absloute jester everybody has different insulin to carb ratios and not just that but most teenagers have an insulin to carb ratio of 1;4, go do ur research and stop sucking dick for reps

3 times a day are u fucking serious, nigga is trying to take lives

fun fact if you dont know your insulin to carb ratio and lets say for example its 1;4 due to puberty, and u take 1;10 doses its not gonna do shit, you would be better off licking cum off the walls than burn money on insulin. not to mention if somebody's insulin to carb ratio is 1;15-1;20 or higher and they have good insulin sensitivity, you could practically kill them with this info and make them inject 20 ius or 10 ius which is equivalent to 150g-200 of carbs or 300-400g of carbs.

and this will 100% definitely kill someone if they inject after workout as your more insulin sensitive AND your glycogen is depleted meaning your liver cant save you if ur in hypoglycemia

do research you brick

yk u could just do this and take a "carbohydrate blend" and your pancreas will secrete the same amount of insulin with NO risk of hypoglycemia right? it will still signal liver to produce igf1. also, taking 100g of carbs isnt saving u from hypoglycemia if your glycogen stores are depleted

@Aryan Incel @SlayerJonas @Nexom please send this spamming nigger back to tiktok, his ragebait isnt even funny

 

[Sadist]

what is the difference between pharma igf1 and "standalone" igf1? i know neither is insulin itself (literally in the name jfl)
when you say regular igf1 are you referring to its analogues like igf1 lr3? and yea i mean purely biochemically, is it better for myo anabolism?

usually the difference between pharma and generic shit is purity and pharmacokinetics. but from what i can see, igflr3 and increlex vary in structure with the latter being more similar to human igf, whilst the former is a modified versions, with increl also having a way shorter half life.

 

[Matthaiass]

bump

 

[theübermenschboy]

Sounds really interesting, is there any way to know how much one will benefit from taking insulin?

Taking it is one way .

 

[Aryan Incel]

yk u could just do this and take a "carbohydrate blend" and your pancreas will secrete the same amount of insulin with NO risk of hypoglycemia right? it will still signal liver to produce igf1. also, taking 100g of carbs isnt saving u from hypoglycemia if your glycogen stores are depleted

Quit waffling

 

[ZygomaticArch_01]

How much weight did u gain during the 16 week slin cycle?
I would say slin one of the best weight gainers there is.

https://looksmax.org/conversations/source.555933/#convMessage-4428920 Pms bro

 

[ccwb]

View attachment 4719765

An Introduction to Insulin
By Sadist

Spoiler: DISCLAIMERS

DISCLAIMER 1:
By no means is this medical advice. Everyone is different and some people may respond to this differently to others. Consult with a medical professional for the safest ways to make use of the info you’re about to find out.

DISCLAIMER 2:
This thread is directed at advanced AAS users only. I recommend running at least 2-3 cycles before implementing Insulin into your stack.

Thread Song:


​

---

Preface:


For some reason, I have barely seen anybody talk about pairing Insulin with hGH and AAS on this forum - and it has always really surprised me, as its benefits are very significant.

I have always had everything locked in: training, recovery, macros, gear, etc., yet have always struggled with gaining muscle. That is, until I figured out that my metabolism is batshit insane, and the issue was simply due to the way my body utilizes nutrients. Biologically, the human body does not require to hold onto a lot of muscle mass to function properly, instead focusing on utilizing the nutrients it receives to survive and ensure that all the vital parts are nourished. Even after that happens to be the case, the body is still quite reluctant to direct nutrients towards muscle recovery, directing them to other miscellaneous parts, besides just muscles. This is exactly why you need to eat like a fucking dog in order to get any significant gains, unless you’re myostatin deficient.

The three main pathways of anabolism are Testosterone, IGF-1 (hGH) and Insulin. Each one of them is responsible for a different way, in which myogenesis is assisted, through promoting protein synthesis via their own mechanisms. Whilst the former two are well-known, the latter one seems otherwise - and in this guide, I will break down this pathway, and how to properly take advantage of it.

​

---

Table of Contents:


I
How Does Insulin Work and What are Its Benefits?

II
Side Effects and Risks Related to Insulin

III
Dosing, Protocol & Misc Info

IV
Conclusion


Without further ado, let’s get you proper fucking jacked.




​

---

I
How Does Insulin Work and What are Its Benefits?



Insulin is widely regarded as the most anabolic compound you can take. And that is for a good reason. Insulin works by interacting with GLUT4 receptors, which greatly ascends nutrient partitioning, specifically amino acids and glucose, sending a very good chunk of them straight into muscle cells. By doing this, it essentially helps you overcome the issues described in the preface, by basically telling your body to stop LDARing - and use the nutrients that you stuff your mug with to ascend and thrive, instead of forcing you to live in misery as a sad skinny chud. Now this, of course, does not mean that your body will start neglecting all your vitals and solely focus on building muscle all of a sudden - not at all. That is, of course, if you ensure correct (thus obviously, sufficient) nutrient intake. Insulin also directly synergizes with hGH and Testosterone pretty fucking well.


View attachment 4721516

​

---

II
Side Effects and Risks Related to Insulin:



Just like a lot of other compounds, Insulin use is heavily fear-mongered. A lot of high inhib faggots will never cease to yell shit like “don’t use slin, you can easily die from your very first injection!”. Bullshit. Similarly to compounds like DNP, as long as you are not a retard, take Insulin at proper doses, and do all other required things (which are pretty fucking effortless, mind you) - you will be completely fine. Below, I will list all most common potential side effects that can occur from Insulin usage, although again, do consider that you may pretty much only get them if your IQ is sub-80:



Hypoglycemia - Insulin, quite obviously, lowers blood sugar. This is actually the shit that can potentially kill you if you take it carelessly;

Insulin resistance - prolonged exogenous Insulin usage will make your body tolerant to it, and therefore may spike your baseline glucose levels slightly upon discontinuation. However, there is a very easy fix for that, that I will touch on shortly;

Hypokalemia - intake enough electrolytes;

Injection site reactions - just pin properly.



Now that we have those covered, I will tell you exactly how to avoid each and every single one of them through using Insulin properly.

​

---

III
Insulin Dosing, Protocol & Misc. Info:

Rapid-Acting Insulin is the superior option. And it is so simply due to the fact that you have way more control over it, as compared to its Long-Acting counterpart. The half-life of the former is mere 2-5 hours, whilst the latter varies anywhere from 25 to 45 hours. This makes Rapid very convenient to use, as we will be administering it in a peri-workout fashion.

There is no need to dose Insulin too high, as the benefit it will bring will be pretty marginal compared to the risks and pain in the ass it can create. With that said, I personally know a 15 year-old low-inhib guy, who used to take 60 or 70 units of NovoRapid per day (with proof) and was completely fine, although again, this is completely anecdotal, and he is still an idiot for doing that. It simply shows that Insulin does not equate to “muh instant death”.

Before we go any further, it is CRUCIAL you buy a Blood Glucose Monitor and optimally, use it three times a day. The generally agreed-upon optimal baseline Glucose Levels are 3.9-5.4mmol/L fasted and below 7.8mmol/L unfasted.

We will be dosing Rapid-Acting Insulin at 5-15IU per day. You can go up to 20IU, but I simply think there is no need.

As mentioned above, it is best to take Insulin (but also hGH) is peri-workout, to maximize its efficiency. The way to do it is to simply split the dose in half, and take one half pre, and the other one post workout. I heavily suggest pairing Insulin with hGH at the very least, but obviously also ideally with AAS.

Carb intake is VERY important to ensure you have enough nutrients to direct to both muscles AND vitals, so that you don’t go hypo. The general rule of thumb is 1IU Insulin per 10g Carbs, but I personally prefer to have a bit more Carbs than that; better safe than sorry, you know? Not only that, but it’s best to also have an appropriate Carb intake throughout your workout, as lifting depletes your glycogen stores pretty fucking hard. My personal recommendation is a carbohydrate blend that comes in powder form, as it is very easy to prepare and consume Pre and Mid-Workout. For Post-Workout Carbs, I recommend getting them from High GI food (The GI Index being a system, which ranks different foods from 1 to 100, depending on the speed, at which they raise Glucose levels).

View attachment 4721498

I also recommend taking around 25g Protein Pre-Workout (and obviously a sufficient amount Post, but that’s water). Appropriate Post-Workout Electrolyte intake is also recommended to further avoid feeling like shit, which I recommend getting from both food AND a serving of powdered electrolytes/supplements.

Below, I will demonstrate both the sequence, in which you should take your compounds, and give my example.



The sequence should go as follows:


Pre-Workout:
Insulin > hGH > Liquid Carbs + Liquid Protein;


Mid-Workout:
Set > Few sips of Liquid Carbs;


Post-workout:
Insulin > hGH > High GI Food Carbs + Food Protein + Food AND Powdered Electrolytes.



My Example
(again, do keep in mind that my carb intake is slightly higher than the bare minimum):


Total Per Day - 10IU NovoRapid, 4IU hGh, 300g Carbs (peri-workout only) + Electrolytes

with the sequence being:


Pre-Workout:
5IU Insulin > 2IU hGh > 100g Liquid Carbs + 25g Liquid Protein;


Mid-Workout:
Set > Few sips of Carbs (100g total);


Post-Workout:
5IU Insulin > 2IU hGh > (at least) 100g High GI Food Carbs + 50g Food Protein + 1 serving of Electrolyte Blend ON TOP of Electrolytes I get from food.



Let me reiterate: as long as you ingest enough carbs & electrolytes at adequate Insulin doses, you should be completely fine.

Regarding Insulin resistance, Insulin should only be used throughout your blasts (16 weeks being the ideal timeframe). After that (relatively short) period, your body should quite effortlessly return to baseline resistance, even if you don’t do anything about it. However, it’s best that you keep lifting regularly after the blast ends, AND shred as quickly as possible (as higher bodyfat has been shown to contribute to Insulin Resistance over and over again).

Last thing to note (although should be fucking obvious) is to double-check the amount of units per click on YOUR pen.

​

---

IV
Conclusion:

Insulin will give you pretty fucking solid gains if paired with AAS and hGH. It is piss easy to use, is not expensive, and it’s pretty unlikely to buy some boof shit, since it’s quite easy to source it pretty much anywhere.

To summarize: Stay consistent, consume appropriate nutrients (especially Carbs), monitor Blood Glucose frequently, don’t OD, train even post-cycle, and ideally, shred as quickly as possible after said cycle (DNP & GLP-1 Agonists are your best friends for that).
And above all else - enjoy your slayer Sik Kunt lives.

​

---

Tags: @Menas @Chad @Orka @AverageTevvezFan @SlayerJonas​

 

[Org3cel]

i’m currently on week 5 and gained around 7 kilos

thats also considering that i couldn’t train in some weeks and that my diet recently has been pretty fucked. i’m bouncing back tho

Goddamn, most will be water gain but still amazing, I was thinking of running dnp very soon, maybe slin and then DNP before summer tbh
@MyDreamIsToBe183CM Im prob gonna do 10 ius of insulin ed
Btw is it really that much of a big difference injecting slin and gh at night or doing the protocol u wrote? Is it just for the workout performance or some other nuance?

 

[Sadist]

Goddamn, most will be water gain but still amazing, I was thinking of running dnp very soon, maybe slin and then DNP before summer tbh
@MyDreamIsToBe183CM Im prob gonna do 10 ius of insulin ed
Btw is it really that much of a big difference injecting slin and gh at night or doing the protocol u wrote? Is it just for the workout performance or some other nuance?

well you wanna position your injections around your workout because thats kinda when most shit happens. since it's so anabolic, that's precisely when it's best to do so. as for hgh, it depends. as i told a user before, if youre running high doses for heightmaxing, then before bed is probably best. but if it's for bodybuilding - then perioworkout is best

 

[DetwinkifiedZayn]

View attachment 4719765

An Introduction to Insulin
By Sadist

Spoiler: DISCLAIMERS

DISCLAIMER 1:
By no means is this medical advice. Everyone is different and some people may respond to this differently to others. Consult with a medical professional for the safest ways to make use of the info you’re about to find out.

DISCLAIMER 2:
This thread is directed at advanced AAS users only. I recommend running at least 2-3 cycles before implementing Insulin into your stack.

Thread Song:


​

---

Preface:


For some reason, I have barely seen anybody talk about pairing Insulin with hGH and AAS on this forum - and it has always really surprised me, as its benefits are very significant.

I have always had everything locked in: training, recovery, macros, gear, etc., yet have always struggled with gaining muscle. That is, until I figured out that my metabolism is batshit insane, and the issue was simply due to the way my body utilizes nutrients. Biologically, the human body does not require to hold onto a lot of muscle mass to function properly, instead focusing on utilizing the nutrients it receives to survive and ensure that all the vital parts are nourished. Even after that happens to be the case, the body is still quite reluctant to direct nutrients towards muscle recovery, directing them to other miscellaneous parts, besides just muscles. This is exactly why you need to eat like a fucking dog in order to get any significant gains, unless you’re myostatin deficient.

The three main pathways of anabolism are Testosterone, IGF-1 (hGH) and Insulin. Each one of them is responsible for a different way, in which myogenesis is assisted, through promoting protein synthesis via their own mechanisms. Whilst the former two are well-known, the latter one seems otherwise - and in this guide, I will break down this pathway, and how to properly take advantage of it.

​

---

Table of Contents:


I
How Does Insulin Work and What are Its Benefits?

II
Side Effects and Risks Related to Insulin

III
Dosing, Protocol & Misc Info

IV
Conclusion


Without further ado, let’s get you proper fucking jacked.




​

---

I
How Does Insulin Work and What are Its Benefits?



Insulin is widely regarded as the most anabolic compound you can take. And that is for a good reason. Insulin works by interacting with GLUT4 receptors, which greatly ascends nutrient partitioning, specifically amino acids and glucose, sending a very good chunk of them straight into muscle cells. By doing this, it essentially helps you overcome the issues described in the preface, by basically telling your body to stop LDARing - and use the nutrients that you stuff your mug with to ascend and thrive, instead of forcing you to live in misery as a sad skinny chud. Now this, of course, does not mean that your body will start neglecting all your vitals and solely focus on building muscle all of a sudden - not at all. That is, of course, if you ensure correct (thus obviously, sufficient) nutrient intake. Insulin also directly synergizes with hGH and Testosterone pretty fucking well.


View attachment 4721516

​

---

II
Side Effects and Risks Related to Insulin:



Just like a lot of other compounds, Insulin use is heavily fear-mongered. A lot of high inhib faggots will never cease to yell shit like “don’t use slin, you can easily die from your very first injection!”. Bullshit. Similarly to compounds like DNP, as long as you are not a retard, take Insulin at proper doses, and do all other required things (which are pretty fucking effortless, mind you) - you will be completely fine. Below, I will list all most common potential side effects that can occur from Insulin usage, although again, do consider that you may pretty much only get them if your IQ is sub-80:



Hypoglycemia - Insulin, quite obviously, lowers blood sugar. This is actually the shit that can potentially kill you if you take it carelessly;

Insulin resistance - prolonged exogenous Insulin usage will make your body tolerant to it, and therefore may spike your baseline glucose levels slightly upon discontinuation. However, there is a very easy fix for that, that I will touch on shortly;

Hypokalemia - intake enough electrolytes;

Injection site reactions - just pin properly.



Now that we have those covered, I will tell you exactly how to avoid each and every single one of them through using Insulin properly.

​

---

III
Insulin Dosing, Protocol & Misc. Info:

Rapid-Acting Insulin is the superior option. And it is so simply due to the fact that you have way more control over it, as compared to its Long-Acting counterpart. The half-life of the former is mere 2-5 hours, whilst the latter varies anywhere from 25 to 45 hours. This makes Rapid very convenient to use, as we will be administering it in a peri-workout fashion.

There is no need to dose Insulin too high, as the benefit it will bring will be pretty marginal compared to the risks and pain in the ass it can create. With that said, I personally know a 15 year-old low-inhib guy, who used to take 60 or 70 units of NovoRapid per day (with proof) and was completely fine, although again, this is completely anecdotal, and he is still an idiot for doing that. It simply shows that Insulin does not equate to “muh instant death”.

Before we go any further, it is CRUCIAL you buy a Blood Glucose Monitor and optimally, use it three times a day. The generally agreed-upon optimal baseline Glucose Levels are 3.9-5.4mmol/L fasted and below 7.8mmol/L unfasted.

We will be dosing Rapid-Acting Insulin at 5-15IU per day. You can go up to 20IU, but I simply think there is no need.

As mentioned above, it is best to take Insulin (but also hGH) is peri-workout, to maximize its efficiency. The way to do it is to simply split the dose in half, and take one half pre, and the other one post workout. I heavily suggest pairing Insulin with hGH at the very least, but obviously also ideally with AAS.

Carb intake is VERY important to ensure you have enough nutrients to direct to both muscles AND vitals, so that you don’t go hypo. The general rule of thumb is 1IU Insulin per 10g Carbs, but I personally prefer to have a bit more Carbs than that; better safe than sorry, you know? Not only that, but it’s best to also have an appropriate Carb intake throughout your workout, as lifting depletes your glycogen stores pretty fucking hard. My personal recommendation is a carbohydrate blend that comes in powder form, as it is very easy to prepare and consume Pre and Mid-Workout. For Post-Workout Carbs, I recommend getting them from High GI food (The GI Index being a system, which ranks different foods from 1 to 100, depending on the speed, at which they raise Glucose levels).

View attachment 4721498

I also recommend taking around 25g Protein Pre-Workout (and obviously a sufficient amount Post, but that’s water). Appropriate Post-Workout Electrolyte intake is also recommended to further avoid feeling like shit, which I recommend getting from both food AND a serving of powdered electrolytes/supplements.

Below, I will demonstrate both the sequence, in which you should take your compounds, and give my example.



The sequence should go as follows:


Pre-Workout:
Insulin > hGH > Liquid Carbs + Liquid Protein;


Mid-Workout:
Set > Few sips of Liquid Carbs;


Post-workout:
Insulin > hGH > High GI Food Carbs + Food Protein + Food AND Powdered Electrolytes.



My Example
(again, do keep in mind that my carb intake is slightly higher than the bare minimum):


Total Per Day - 10IU NovoRapid, 4IU hGh, 300g Carbs (peri-workout only) + Electrolytes

with the sequence being:


Pre-Workout:
5IU Insulin > 2IU hGh > 100g Liquid Carbs + 25g Liquid Protein;


Mid-Workout:
Set > Few sips of Carbs (100g total);


Post-Workout:
5IU Insulin > 2IU hGh > (at least) 100g High GI Food Carbs + 50g Food Protein + 1 serving of Electrolyte Blend ON TOP of Electrolytes I get from food.



Let me reiterate: as long as you ingest enough carbs & electrolytes at adequate Insulin doses, you should be completely fine.

Regarding Insulin resistance, Insulin should only be used throughout your blasts (16 weeks being the ideal timeframe). After that (relatively short) period, your body should quite effortlessly return to baseline resistance, even if you don’t do anything about it. However, it’s best that you keep lifting regularly after the blast ends, AND shred as quickly as possible (as higher bodyfat has been shown to contribute to Insulin Resistance over and over again).

Last thing to note (although should be fucking obvious) is to double-check the amount of units per click on YOUR pen.

​

---

IV
Conclusion:

Insulin will give you pretty fucking solid gains if paired with AAS and hGH. It is piss easy to use, is not expensive, and it’s pretty unlikely to buy some boof shit, since it’s quite easy to source it pretty much anywhere.

To summarize: Stay consistent, consume appropriate nutrients (especially Carbs), monitor Blood Glucose frequently, don’t OD, train even post-cycle, and ideally, shred as quickly as possible after said cycle (DNP & GLP-1 Agonists are your best friends for that).
And above all else - enjoy your slayer Sik Kunt lives.

​

---

Tags: @Menas @Chad @Orka @AverageTevvezFan @SlayerJonas​

amazing thread been meaning to read up on insulin

 

[Orgish]

View attachment 4719765

An Introduction to Insulin
By Sadist

Spoiler: DISCLAIMERS

DISCLAIMER 1:
By no means is this medical advice. Everyone is different and some people may respond to this differently to others. Consult with a medical professional for the safest ways to make use of the info you’re about to find out.

DISCLAIMER 2:
This thread is directed at advanced AAS users only. I recommend running at least 2-3 cycles before implementing Insulin into your stack.

Thread Song:


​

---

Preface:


For some reason, I have barely seen anybody talk about pairing Insulin with hGH and AAS on this forum - and it has always really surprised me, as its benefits are very significant.

I have always had everything locked in: training, recovery, macros, gear, etc., yet have always struggled with gaining muscle. That is, until I figured out that my metabolism is batshit insane, and the issue was simply due to the way my body utilizes nutrients. Biologically, the human body does not require to hold onto a lot of muscle mass to function properly, instead focusing on utilizing the nutrients it receives to survive and ensure that all the vital parts are nourished. Even after that happens to be the case, the body is still quite reluctant to direct nutrients towards muscle recovery, directing them to other miscellaneous parts, besides just muscles. This is exactly why you need to eat like a fucking dog in order to get any significant gains, unless you’re myostatin deficient.

The three main pathways of anabolism are Testosterone, IGF-1 (hGH) and Insulin. Each one of them is responsible for a different way, in which myogenesis is assisted, through promoting protein synthesis via their own mechanisms. Whilst the former two are well-known, the latter one seems otherwise - and in this guide, I will break down this pathway, and how to properly take advantage of it.

​

---

Table of Contents:


I
How Does Insulin Work and What are Its Benefits?

II
Side Effects and Risks Related to Insulin

III
Dosing, Protocol & Misc Info

IV
Conclusion


Without further ado, let’s get you proper fucking jacked.




​

---

I
How Does Insulin Work and What are Its Benefits?



Insulin is widely regarded as the most anabolic compound you can take. And that is for a good reason. Insulin works by interacting with GLUT4 receptors, which greatly ascends nutrient partitioning, specifically amino acids and glucose, sending a very good chunk of them straight into muscle cells. By doing this, it essentially helps you overcome the issues described in the preface, by basically telling your body to stop LDARing - and use the nutrients that you stuff your mug with to ascend and thrive, instead of forcing you to live in misery as a sad skinny chud. Now this, of course, does not mean that your body will start neglecting all your vitals and solely focus on building muscle all of a sudden - not at all. That is, of course, if you ensure correct (thus obviously, sufficient) nutrient intake. Insulin also directly synergizes with hGH and Testosterone pretty fucking well.


View attachment 4721516

​

---

II
Side Effects and Risks Related to Insulin:



Just like a lot of other compounds, Insulin use is heavily fear-mongered. A lot of high inhib faggots will never cease to yell shit like “don’t use slin, you can easily die from your very first injection!”. Bullshit. Similarly to compounds like DNP, as long as you are not a retard, take Insulin at proper doses, and do all other required things (which are pretty fucking effortless, mind you) - you will be completely fine. Below, I will list all most common potential side effects that can occur from Insulin usage, although again, do consider that you may pretty much only get them if your IQ is sub-80:



Hypoglycemia - Insulin, quite obviously, lowers blood sugar. This is actually the shit that can potentially kill you if you take it carelessly;

Insulin resistance - prolonged exogenous Insulin usage will make your body tolerant to it, and therefore may spike your baseline glucose levels slightly upon discontinuation. However, there is a very easy fix for that, that I will touch on shortly;

Hypokalemia - intake enough electrolytes;

Injection site reactions - just pin properly.



Now that we have those covered, I will tell you exactly how to avoid each and every single one of them through using Insulin properly.

​

---

III
Insulin Dosing, Protocol & Misc. Info:

Rapid-Acting Insulin is the superior option. And it is so simply due to the fact that you have way more control over it, as compared to its Long-Acting counterpart. The half-life of the former is mere 2-5 hours, whilst the latter varies anywhere from 25 to 45 hours. This makes Rapid very convenient to use, as we will be administering it in a peri-workout fashion.

There is no need to dose Insulin too high, as the benefit it will bring will be pretty marginal compared to the risks and pain in the ass it can create. With that said, I personally know a 15 year-old low-inhib guy, who used to take 60 or 70 units of NovoRapid per day (with proof) and was completely fine, although again, this is completely anecdotal, and he is still an idiot for doing that. It simply shows that Insulin does not equate to “muh instant death”.

Before we go any further, it is CRUCIAL you buy a Blood Glucose Monitor and optimally, use it three times a day. The generally agreed-upon optimal baseline Glucose Levels are 3.9-5.4mmol/L fasted and below 7.8mmol/L unfasted.

We will be dosing Rapid-Acting Insulin at 5-15IU per day. You can go up to 20IU, but I simply think there is no need.

As mentioned above, it is best to take Insulin (but also hGH) is peri-workout, to maximize its efficiency. The way to do it is to simply split the dose in half, and take one half pre, and the other one post workout. I heavily suggest pairing Insulin with hGH at the very least, but obviously also ideally with AAS.

Carb intake is VERY important to ensure you have enough nutrients to direct to both muscles AND vitals, so that you don’t go hypo. The general rule of thumb is 1IU Insulin per 10g Carbs, but I personally prefer to have a bit more Carbs than that; better safe than sorry, you know? Not only that, but it’s best to also have an appropriate Carb intake throughout your workout, as lifting depletes your glycogen stores pretty fucking hard. My personal recommendation is a carbohydrate blend that comes in powder form, as it is very easy to prepare and consume Pre and Mid-Workout. For Post-Workout Carbs, I recommend getting them from High GI food (The GI Index being a system, which ranks different foods from 1 to 100, depending on the speed, at which they raise Glucose levels).

View attachment 4721498

I also recommend taking around 25g Protein Pre-Workout (and obviously a sufficient amount Post, but that’s water). Appropriate Post-Workout Electrolyte intake is also recommended to further avoid feeling like shit, which I recommend getting from both food AND a serving of powdered electrolytes/supplements.

Below, I will demonstrate both the sequence, in which you should take your compounds, and give my example.



The sequence should go as follows:


Pre-Workout:
Insulin > hGH > Liquid Carbs + Liquid Protein;


Mid-Workout:
Set > Few sips of Liquid Carbs;


Post-workout:
Insulin > hGH > High GI Food Carbs + Food Protein + Food AND Powdered Electrolytes.



My Example
(again, do keep in mind that my carb intake is slightly higher than the bare minimum):


Total Per Day - 10IU NovoRapid, 4IU hGh, 300g Carbs (peri-workout only) + Electrolytes

with the sequence being:


Pre-Workout:
5IU Insulin > 2IU hGh > 100g Liquid Carbs + 25g Liquid Protein;


Mid-Workout:
Set > Few sips of Carbs (100g total);


Post-Workout:
5IU Insulin > 2IU hGh > (at least) 100g High GI Food Carbs + 50g Food Protein + 1 serving of Electrolyte Blend ON TOP of Electrolytes I get from food.



Let me reiterate: as long as you ingest enough carbs & electrolytes at adequate Insulin doses, you should be completely fine.

Regarding Insulin resistance, Insulin should only be used throughout your blasts (16 weeks being the ideal timeframe). After that (relatively short) period, your body should quite effortlessly return to baseline resistance, even if you don’t do anything about it. However, it’s best that you keep lifting regularly after the blast ends, AND shred as quickly as possible (as higher bodyfat has been shown to contribute to Insulin Resistance over and over again).

Last thing to note (although should be fucking obvious) is to double-check the amount of units per click on YOUR pen.

​

---

IV
Conclusion:

Insulin will give you pretty fucking solid gains if paired with AAS and hGH. It is piss easy to use, is not expensive, and it’s pretty unlikely to buy some boof shit, since it’s quite easy to source it pretty much anywhere.

To summarize: Stay consistent, consume appropriate nutrients (especially Carbs), monitor Blood Glucose frequently, don’t OD, train even post-cycle, and ideally, shred as quickly as possible after said cycle (DNP & GLP-1 Agonists are your best friends for that).
And above all else - enjoy your slayer Sik Kunt lives.

​

---

Tags: @Menas @Chad @Orka @AverageTevvezFan @SlayerJonas​

Thanks to this information brah I’ll be like this by summer

 

[chudpiller]

usually the difference between pharma and generic shit is purity and pharmacokinetics. but from what i can see, igflr3 and increlex vary in structure with the latter being more similar to human igf, whilst the former is a modified versions, with increl also having a way shorter half life.

Incralex is rIGF-1 (bio identical) while igf1lr3 is modified to extend half life. Lr3 is buns tho I believe it has much reduced biding affinity for the igf1 receptor. Never seen someone be able to prove that lr3 does much in a bodybuilding context. Maybe the receptor downregulates quickly idk.

 

[wannabemogger]

View attachment 4719765

An Introduction to Insulin
By Sadist

Spoiler: DISCLAIMERS

DISCLAIMER 1:
By no means is this medical advice. Everyone is different and some people may respond to this differently to others. Consult with a medical professional for the safest ways to make use of the info you’re about to find out.

DISCLAIMER 2:
This thread is directed at advanced AAS users only. I recommend running at least 2-3 cycles before implementing Insulin into your stack.

Thread Song:


​

---

Preface:


For some reason, I have barely seen anybody talk about pairing Insulin with hGH and AAS on this forum - and it has always really surprised me, as its benefits are very significant.

I have always had everything locked in: training, recovery, macros, gear, etc., yet have always struggled with gaining muscle. That is, until I figured out that my metabolism is batshit insane, and the issue was simply due to the way my body utilizes nutrients. Biologically, the human body does not require to hold onto a lot of muscle mass to function properly, instead focusing on utilizing the nutrients it receives to survive and ensure that all the vital parts are nourished. Even after that happens to be the case, the body is still quite reluctant to direct nutrients towards muscle recovery, directing them to other miscellaneous parts, besides just muscles. This is exactly why you need to eat like a fucking dog in order to get any significant gains, unless you’re myostatin deficient.

The three main pathways of anabolism are Testosterone, IGF-1 (hGH) and Insulin. Each one of them is responsible for a different way, in which myogenesis is assisted, through promoting protein synthesis via their own mechanisms. Whilst the former two are well-known, the latter one seems otherwise - and in this guide, I will break down this pathway, and how to properly take advantage of it.

​

---

Table of Contents:


I
How Does Insulin Work and What are Its Benefits?

II
Side Effects and Risks Related to Insulin

III
Dosing, Protocol & Misc Info

IV
Conclusion


Without further ado, let’s get you proper fucking jacked.




​

---

I
How Does Insulin Work and What are Its Benefits?



Insulin is widely regarded as the most anabolic compound you can take. And that is for a good reason. Insulin works by interacting with GLUT4 receptors, which greatly ascends nutrient partitioning, specifically amino acids and glucose, sending a very good chunk of them straight into muscle cells. By doing this, it essentially helps you overcome the issues described in the preface, by basically telling your body to stop LDARing - and use the nutrients that you stuff your mug with to ascend and thrive, instead of forcing you to live in misery as a sad skinny chud. Now this, of course, does not mean that your body will start neglecting all your vitals and solely focus on building muscle all of a sudden - not at all. That is, of course, if you ensure correct (thus obviously, sufficient) nutrient intake. Insulin also directly synergizes with hGH and Testosterone pretty fucking well.


View attachment 4721516

​

---

II
Side Effects and Risks Related to Insulin:



Just like a lot of other compounds, Insulin use is heavily fear-mongered. A lot of high inhib faggots will never cease to yell shit like “don’t use slin, you can easily die from your very first injection!”. Bullshit. Similarly to compounds like DNP, as long as you are not a retard, take Insulin at proper doses, and do all other required things (which are pretty fucking effortless, mind you) - you will be completely fine. Below, I will list all most common potential side effects that can occur from Insulin usage, although again, do consider that you may pretty much only get them if your IQ is sub-80:



Hypoglycemia - Insulin, quite obviously, lowers blood sugar. This is actually the shit that can potentially kill you if you take it carelessly;

Insulin resistance - prolonged exogenous Insulin usage will make your body tolerant to it, and therefore may spike your baseline glucose levels slightly upon discontinuation. However, there is a very easy fix for that, that I will touch on shortly;

Hypokalemia - intake enough electrolytes;

Injection site reactions - just pin properly.



Now that we have those covered, I will tell you exactly how to avoid each and every single one of them through using Insulin properly.

​

---

III
Insulin Dosing, Protocol & Misc. Info:

Rapid-Acting Insulin is the superior option. And it is so simply due to the fact that you have way more control over it, as compared to its Long-Acting counterpart. The half-life of the former is mere 2-5 hours, whilst the latter varies anywhere from 25 to 45 hours. This makes Rapid very convenient to use, as we will be administering it in a peri-workout fashion.

There is no need to dose Insulin too high, as the benefit it will bring will be pretty marginal compared to the risks and pain in the ass it can create. With that said, I personally know a 15 year-old low-inhib guy, who used to take 60 or 70 units of NovoRapid per day (with proof) and was completely fine, although again, this is completely anecdotal, and he is still an idiot for doing that. It simply shows that Insulin does not equate to “muh instant death”.

Before we go any further, it is CRUCIAL you buy a Blood Glucose Monitor and optimally, use it three times a day. The generally agreed-upon optimal baseline Glucose Levels are 3.9-5.4mmol/L fasted and below 7.8mmol/L unfasted.

We will be dosing Rapid-Acting Insulin at 5-15IU per day. You can go up to 20IU, but I simply think there is no need.

As mentioned above, it is best to take Insulin (but also hGH) is peri-workout, to maximize its efficiency. The way to do it is to simply split the dose in half, and take one half pre, and the other one post workout. I heavily suggest pairing Insulin with hGH at the very least, but obviously also ideally with AAS.

Carb intake is VERY important to ensure you have enough nutrients to direct to both muscles AND vitals, so that you don’t go hypo. The general rule of thumb is 1IU Insulin per 10g Carbs, but I personally prefer to have a bit more Carbs than that; better safe than sorry, you know? Not only that, but it’s best to also have an appropriate Carb intake throughout your workout, as lifting depletes your glycogen stores pretty fucking hard. My personal recommendation is a carbohydrate blend that comes in powder form, as it is very easy to prepare and consume Pre and Mid-Workout. For Post-Workout Carbs, I recommend getting them from High GI food (The GI Index being a system, which ranks different foods from 1 to 100, depending on the speed, at which they raise Glucose levels).

View attachment 4721498

I also recommend taking around 25g Protein Pre-Workout (and obviously a sufficient amount Post, but that’s water). Appropriate Post-Workout Electrolyte intake is also recommended to further avoid feeling like shit, which I recommend getting from both food AND a serving of powdered electrolytes/supplements.

Below, I will demonstrate both the sequence, in which you should take your compounds, and give my example.



The sequence should go as follows:


Pre-Workout:
Insulin > hGH > Liquid Carbs + Liquid Protein;


Mid-Workout:
Set > Few sips of Liquid Carbs;


Post-workout:
Insulin > hGH > High GI Food Carbs + Food Protein + Food AND Powdered Electrolytes.



My Example
(again, do keep in mind that my carb intake is slightly higher than the bare minimum):


Total Per Day - 10IU NovoRapid, 4IU hGh, 300g Carbs (peri-workout only) + Electrolytes

with the sequence being:


Pre-Workout:
5IU Insulin > 2IU hGh > 100g Liquid Carbs + 25g Liquid Protein;


Mid-Workout:
Set > Few sips of Carbs (100g total);


Post-Workout:
5IU Insulin > 2IU hGh > (at least) 100g High GI Food Carbs + 50g Food Protein + 1 serving of Electrolyte Blend ON TOP of Electrolytes I get from food.



Let me reiterate: as long as you ingest enough carbs & electrolytes at adequate Insulin doses, you should be completely fine.

Regarding Insulin resistance, Insulin should only be used throughout your blasts (16 weeks being the ideal timeframe). After that (relatively short) period, your body should quite effortlessly return to baseline resistance, even if you don’t do anything about it. However, it’s best that you keep lifting regularly after the blast ends, AND shred as quickly as possible (as higher bodyfat has been shown to contribute to Insulin Resistance over and over again).

Last thing to note (although should be fucking obvious) is to double-check the amount of units per click on YOUR pen.

​

---

IV
Conclusion:

Insulin will give you pretty fucking solid gains if paired with AAS and hGH. It is piss easy to use, is not expensive, and it’s pretty unlikely to buy some boof shit, since it’s quite easy to source it pretty much anywhere.

To summarize: Stay consistent, consume appropriate nutrients (especially Carbs), monitor Blood Glucose frequently, don’t OD, train even post-cycle, and ideally, shred as quickly as possible after said cycle (DNP & GLP-1 Agonists are your best friends for that).
And above all else - enjoy your slayer Sik Kunt lives.

​

---

Tags: @Menas @Chad @Orka @AverageTevvezFan @SlayerJonas​

good thread as always

you should explain exact carb intake better so:
1. the faggots on the forum understand better
2. not getting fat, anything more than 100g of carbs post injection will most likely make you fat FOR EXAMPLE

 

[aids]

Nobody needs fucking insulin unless they're becoming hyperglycaemic with their insanely high carb intake. Sure you can still benefit if you intentionally eat high carb & protein around your slin dose but otherwise not necessary.
There is a reason it's not spoken about and it's because none of you need it.
@Chad

 

[Sadist]

Incralex is rIGF-1 (bio identical) while igf1lr3 is modified to extend half life. Lr3 is buns tho I believe it has much reduced biding affinity for the igf1 receptor. Never seen someone be able to prove that lr3 does much in a bodybuilding context. Maybe the receptor downregulates quickly idk.

this.

 

[Sadist]

good thread as always

you should explain exact carb intake better so:
1. the faggots on the forum understand better
2. not getting fat, anything more than 100g of carbs post injection will most likely make you fat FOR EXAMPLE

you become a fat pig on bulk anyways so it doesnt even matter tbh

Nobody needs fucking insulin unless they're becoming hyperglycaemic with their insanely high carb intake. Sure you can still benefit if you intentionally eat high carb & protein around your slin dose but otherwise not necessary.
There is a reason it's not spoken about and it's because none of you need it.
@Chad

that’s not why people use it? clearly you haven’t read the thread at all. cbm already knows that test + gh + slin is the ideal combo.

 

[birthdefect]

usually the difference between pharma and generic shit is purity and pharmacokinetics. but from what i can see, igflr3 and increlex vary in structure with the latter being more similar to human igf, whilst the former is a modified versions, with increl also having a way shorter half life.

pharma and generic (if high quality) should be identical
im actually not sure which is better between lr3 and increlex for muscle tbh, but increlex is bioidentical to human igf1

 

[aids]

you become a fat pig on bulk anyways so it doesnt even matter tbh


that’s not why people use it? clearly you haven’t read the thread at all. cbm already knows that test + gh + slin is the ideal combo.

There’s literally not one reference to their synergy other than that it ‘exists’ JFL what are you on about

 

[Sadist]

There’s literally not one reference to their synergy other than that it ‘exists’ JFL what are you on about

i guess to you the thread looks something like this then

 

[foidrepeller271]

View attachment 4719765

An Introduction to Insulin
By Sadist

Spoiler: DISCLAIMERS

DISCLAIMER 1:
By no means is this medical advice. Everyone is different and some people may respond to this differently to others. Consult with a medical professional for the safest ways to make use of the info you’re about to find out.

DISCLAIMER 2:
This thread is directed at advanced AAS users only. I recommend running at least 2-3 cycles before implementing Insulin into your stack.

Thread Song:


​

---

Preface:


For some reason, I have barely seen anybody talk about pairing Insulin with hGH and AAS on this forum - and it has always really surprised me, as its benefits are very significant.

I have always had everything locked in: training, recovery, macros, gear, etc., yet have always struggled with gaining muscle. That is, until I figured out that my metabolism is batshit insane, and the issue was simply due to the way my body utilizes nutrients. Biologically, the human body does not require to hold onto a lot of muscle mass to function properly, instead focusing on utilizing the nutrients it receives to survive and ensure that all the vital parts are nourished. Even after that happens to be the case, the body is still quite reluctant to direct nutrients towards muscle recovery, directing them to other miscellaneous parts, besides just muscles. This is exactly why you need to eat like a fucking dog in order to get any significant gains, unless you’re myostatin deficient.

The three main pathways of anabolism are Testosterone, IGF-1 (hGH) and Insulin. Each one of them is responsible for a different way, in which myogenesis is assisted, through promoting protein synthesis via their own mechanisms. Whilst the former two are well-known, the latter one seems otherwise - and in this guide, I will break down this pathway, and how to properly take advantage of it.

​

---

Table of Contents:


I
How Does Insulin Work and What are Its Benefits?

II
Side Effects and Risks Related to Insulin

III
Dosing, Protocol & Misc Info

IV
Conclusion


Without further ado, let’s get you proper fucking jacked.




​

---

I
How Does Insulin Work and What are Its Benefits?



Insulin is widely regarded as the most anabolic compound you can take. And that is for a good reason. Insulin works by interacting with GLUT4 receptors, which greatly ascends nutrient partitioning, specifically amino acids and glucose, sending a very good chunk of them straight into muscle cells. By doing this, it essentially helps you overcome the issues described in the preface, by basically telling your body to stop LDARing - and use the nutrients that you stuff your mug with to ascend and thrive, instead of forcing you to live in misery as a sad skinny chud. Now this, of course, does not mean that your body will start neglecting all your vitals and solely focus on building muscle all of a sudden - not at all. That is, of course, if you ensure correct (thus obviously, sufficient) nutrient intake. Insulin also directly synergizes with hGH and Testosterone pretty fucking well.


View attachment 4721516

​

---

II
Side Effects and Risks Related to Insulin:



Just like a lot of other compounds, Insulin use is heavily fear-mongered. A lot of high inhib faggots will never cease to yell shit like “don’t use slin, you can easily die from your very first injection!”. Bullshit. Similarly to compounds like DNP, as long as you are not a retard, take Insulin at proper doses, and do all other required things (which are pretty fucking effortless, mind you) - you will be completely fine. Below, I will list all most common potential side effects that can occur from Insulin usage, although again, do consider that you may pretty much only get them if your IQ is sub-80:



Hypoglycemia - Insulin, quite obviously, lowers blood sugar. This is actually the shit that can potentially kill you if you take it carelessly;

Insulin resistance - prolonged exogenous Insulin usage will make your body tolerant to it, and therefore may spike your baseline glucose levels slightly upon discontinuation. However, there is a very easy fix for that, that I will touch on shortly;

Hypokalemia - intake enough electrolytes;

Injection site reactions - just pin properly.



Now that we have those covered, I will tell you exactly how to avoid each and every single one of them through using Insulin properly.

​

---

III
Insulin Dosing, Protocol & Misc. Info:

Rapid-Acting Insulin is the superior option. And it is so simply due to the fact that you have way more control over it, as compared to its Long-Acting counterpart. The half-life of the former is mere 2-5 hours, whilst the latter varies anywhere from 25 to 45 hours. This makes Rapid very convenient to use, as we will be administering it in a peri-workout fashion.

There is no need to dose Insulin too high, as the benefit it will bring will be pretty marginal compared to the risks and pain in the ass it can create. With that said, I personally know a 15 year-old low-inhib guy, who used to take 60 or 70 units of NovoRapid per day (with proof) and was completely fine, although again, this is completely anecdotal, and he is still an idiot for doing that. It simply shows that Insulin does not equate to “muh instant death”.

Before we go any further, it is CRUCIAL you buy a Blood Glucose Monitor and optimally, use it three times a day. The generally agreed-upon optimal baseline Glucose Levels are 3.9-5.4mmol/L fasted and below 7.8mmol/L unfasted.

We will be dosing Rapid-Acting Insulin at 5-15IU per day. You can go up to 20IU, but I simply think there is no need.

As mentioned above, it is best to take Insulin (but also hGH) is peri-workout, to maximize its efficiency. The way to do it is to simply split the dose in half, and take one half pre, and the other one post workout. I heavily suggest pairing Insulin with hGH at the very least, but obviously also ideally with AAS.

Carb intake is VERY important to ensure you have enough nutrients to direct to both muscles AND vitals, so that you don’t go hypo. The general rule of thumb is 1IU Insulin per 10g Carbs, but I personally prefer to have a bit more Carbs than that; better safe than sorry, you know? Not only that, but it’s best to also have an appropriate Carb intake throughout your workout, as lifting depletes your glycogen stores pretty fucking hard. My personal recommendation is a carbohydrate blend that comes in powder form, as it is very easy to prepare and consume Pre and Mid-Workout. For Post-Workout Carbs, I recommend getting them from High GI food (The GI Index being a system, which ranks different foods from 1 to 100, depending on the speed, at which they raise Glucose levels).

View attachment 4721498

I also recommend taking around 25g Protein Pre-Workout (and obviously a sufficient amount Post, but that’s water). Appropriate Post-Workout Electrolyte intake is also recommended to further avoid feeling like shit, which I recommend getting from both food AND a serving of powdered electrolytes/supplements.

Below, I will demonstrate both the sequence, in which you should take your compounds, and give my example.



The sequence should go as follows:


Pre-Workout:
Insulin > hGH > Liquid Carbs + Liquid Protein;


Mid-Workout:
Set > Few sips of Liquid Carbs;


Post-workout:
Insulin > hGH > High GI Food Carbs + Food Protein + Food AND Powdered Electrolytes.



My Example
(again, do keep in mind that my carb intake is slightly higher than the bare minimum):


Total Per Day - 10IU NovoRapid, 4IU hGh, 300g Carbs (peri-workout only) + Electrolytes

with the sequence being:


Pre-Workout:
5IU Insulin > 2IU hGh > 100g Liquid Carbs + 25g Liquid Protein;


Mid-Workout:
Set > Few sips of Carbs (100g total);


Post-Workout:
5IU Insulin > 2IU hGh > (at least) 100g High GI Food Carbs + 50g Food Protein + 1 serving of Electrolyte Blend ON TOP of Electrolytes I get from food.



Let me reiterate: as long as you ingest enough carbs & electrolytes at adequate Insulin doses, you should be completely fine.

Regarding Insulin resistance, Insulin should only be used throughout your blasts (16 weeks being the ideal timeframe). After that (relatively short) period, your body should quite effortlessly return to baseline resistance, even if you don’t do anything about it. However, it’s best that you keep lifting regularly after the blast ends, AND shred as quickly as possible (as higher bodyfat has been shown to contribute to Insulin Resistance over and over again).

Last thing to note (although should be fucking obvious) is to double-check the amount of units per click on YOUR pen.

​

---

IV
Conclusion:

Insulin will give you pretty fucking solid gains if paired with AAS and hGH. It is piss easy to use, is not expensive, and it’s pretty unlikely to buy some boof shit, since it’s quite easy to source it pretty much anywhere.

To summarize: Stay consistent, consume appropriate nutrients (especially Carbs), monitor Blood Glucose frequently, don’t OD, train even post-cycle, and ideally, shred as quickly as possible after said cycle (DNP & GLP-1 Agonists are your best friends for that).
And above all else - enjoy your slayer Sik Kunt lives.

​

---

Tags: @Menas @Chad @Orka @AverageTevvezFan @SlayerJonas​

mired the effort, high iq thread bhai

 

[MUSTYCOPER]

hows the bloat on it?

 

[Sadist]

hows the bloat on it?

i’m on 1g test and 4iu gh so i have not a fucking clue since i’m a fat bloated pig rn anyways, but i very much assume it does add to it.

 

[Org3cel]

well you wanna position your injections around your workout because thats kinda when most shit happens. since it's so anabolic, that's precisely when it's best to do so. as for hgh, it depends. as i told a user before, if youre running high doses for heightmaxing, then before bed is probably best. but if it's for bodybuilding - then perioworkout is best

I did some research and lanthus seems to mog humalog, its long acting and I can inject before sleep along w hgh. Im probabily only gonna run 10-20ius max for 16 weeks too tho.
@MyDreamIsToBe183CM

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

I did some research and lanthus seems to mog humalog, its long acting and I can inject before sleep along w hgh. Im probabily only gonna run 10-20ius max for 16 weeks too tho.
@MyDreamIsToBe183CM

Can you respond to my thing about ketamine

 

[AtrophicPyra]

Nobody needs fucking insulin unless they're becoming hyperglycaemic with their insanely high carb intake. Sure you can still benefit if you intentionally eat high carb & protein around your slin dose but otherwise not necessary.
There is a reason it's not spoken about and it's because none of you need it.
@Chad

hes a contributer meaning he knows what hes talking abt

 

[Sadist]

I did some research and lanthus seems to mog humalog, its long acting and I can inject before sleep along w hgh. Im probabily only gonna run 10-20ius max for 16 weeks too tho.
@MyDreamIsToBe183CM

whats the point tho, shorter half life is more beneficial in this case

 

[Sadist]

mired the effort, high iq thread bhai

thankyou bhai

 

[Snow19]

View attachment 4719765

An Introduction to Insulin
By Sadist

Spoiler: DISCLAIMERS

DISCLAIMER 1:
By no means is this medical advice. Everyone is different and some people may respond to this differently to others. Consult with a medical professional for the safest ways to make use of the info you’re about to find out.

DISCLAIMER 2:
This thread is directed at advanced AAS users only. I recommend running at least 2-3 cycles before implementing Insulin into your stack.

Thread Song:


​

---

Preface:


For some reason, I have barely seen anybody talk about pairing Insulin with hGH and AAS on this forum - and it has always really surprised me, as its benefits are very significant.

I have always had everything locked in: training, recovery, macros, gear, etc., yet have always struggled with gaining muscle. That is, until I figured out that my metabolism is batshit insane, and the issue was simply due to the way my body utilizes nutrients. Biologically, the human body does not require to hold onto a lot of muscle mass to function properly, instead focusing on utilizing the nutrients it receives to survive and ensure that all the vital parts are nourished. Even after that happens to be the case, the body is still quite reluctant to direct nutrients towards muscle recovery, directing them to other miscellaneous parts, besides just muscles. This is exactly why you need to eat like a fucking dog in order to get any significant gains, unless you’re myostatin deficient.

The three main pathways of anabolism are Testosterone, IGF-1 (hGH) and Insulin. Each one of them is responsible for a different way, in which myogenesis is assisted, through promoting protein synthesis via their own mechanisms. Whilst the former two are well-known, the latter one seems otherwise - and in this guide, I will break down this pathway, and how to properly take advantage of it.

​

---

Table of Contents:


I
How Does Insulin Work and What are Its Benefits?

II
Side Effects and Risks Related to Insulin

III
Dosing, Protocol & Misc Info

IV
Conclusion


Without further ado, let’s get you proper fucking jacked.




​

---

I
How Does Insulin Work and What are Its Benefits?



Insulin is widely regarded as the most anabolic compound you can take. And that is for a good reason. Insulin works by interacting with GLUT4 receptors, which greatly ascends nutrient partitioning, specifically amino acids and glucose, sending a very good chunk of them straight into muscle cells. By doing this, it essentially helps you overcome the issues described in the preface, by basically telling your body to stop LDARing - and use the nutrients that you stuff your mug with to ascend and thrive, instead of forcing you to live in misery as a sad skinny chud. Now this, of course, does not mean that your body will start neglecting all your vitals and solely focus on building muscle all of a sudden - not at all. That is, of course, if you ensure correct (thus obviously, sufficient) nutrient intake. Insulin also directly synergizes with hGH and Testosterone pretty fucking well.


View attachment 4721516

​

---

II
Side Effects and Risks Related to Insulin:



Just like a lot of other compounds, Insulin use is heavily fear-mongered. A lot of high inhib faggots will never cease to yell shit like “don’t use slin, you can easily die from your very first injection!”. Bullshit. Similarly to compounds like DNP, as long as you are not a retard, take Insulin at proper doses, and do all other required things (which are pretty fucking effortless, mind you) - you will be completely fine. Below, I will list all most common potential side effects that can occur from Insulin usage, although again, do consider that you may pretty much only get them if your IQ is sub-80:



Hypoglycemia - Insulin, quite obviously, lowers blood sugar. This is actually the shit that can potentially kill you if you take it carelessly;

Insulin resistance - prolonged exogenous Insulin usage will make your body tolerant to it, and therefore may spike your baseline glucose levels slightly upon discontinuation. However, there is a very easy fix for that, that I will touch on shortly;

Hypokalemia - intake enough electrolytes;

Injection site reactions - just pin properly.



Now that we have those covered, I will tell you exactly how to avoid each and every single one of them through using Insulin properly.

​

---

III
Insulin Dosing, Protocol & Misc. Info:

Rapid-Acting Insulin is the superior option. And it is so simply due to the fact that you have way more control over it, as compared to its Long-Acting counterpart. The half-life of the former is mere 2-5 hours, whilst the latter varies anywhere from 25 to 45 hours. This makes Rapid very convenient to use, as we will be administering it in a peri-workout fashion.

There is no need to dose Insulin too high, as the benefit it will bring will be pretty marginal compared to the risks and pain in the ass it can create. With that said, I personally know a 15 year-old low-inhib guy, who used to take 60 or 70 units of NovoRapid per day (with proof) and was completely fine, although again, this is completely anecdotal, and he is still an idiot for doing that. It simply shows that Insulin does not equate to “muh instant death”.

Before we go any further, it is CRUCIAL you buy a Blood Glucose Monitor and optimally, use it three times a day. The generally agreed-upon optimal baseline Glucose Levels are 3.9-5.4mmol/L fasted and below 7.8mmol/L unfasted.

We will be dosing Rapid-Acting Insulin at 5-15IU per day. You can go up to 20IU, but I simply think there is no need.

As mentioned above, it is best to take Insulin (but also hGH) is peri-workout, to maximize its efficiency. The way to do it is to simply split the dose in half, and take one half pre, and the other one post workout. I heavily suggest pairing Insulin with hGH at the very least, but obviously also ideally with AAS.

Carb intake is VERY important to ensure you have enough nutrients to direct to both muscles AND vitals, so that you don’t go hypo. The general rule of thumb is 1IU Insulin per 10g Carbs, but I personally prefer to have a bit more Carbs than that; better safe than sorry, you know? Not only that, but it’s best to also have an appropriate Carb intake throughout your workout, as lifting depletes your glycogen stores pretty fucking hard. My personal recommendation is a carbohydrate blend that comes in powder form, as it is very easy to prepare and consume Pre and Mid-Workout. For Post-Workout Carbs, I recommend getting them from High GI food (The GI Index being a system, which ranks different foods from 1 to 100, depending on the speed, at which they raise Glucose levels).

View attachment 4721498

I also recommend taking around 25g Protein Pre-Workout (and obviously a sufficient amount Post, but that’s water). Appropriate Post-Workout Electrolyte intake is also recommended to further avoid feeling like shit, which I recommend getting from both food AND a serving of powdered electrolytes/supplements.

Below, I will demonstrate both the sequence, in which you should take your compounds, and give my example.



The sequence should go as follows:


Pre-Workout:
Insulin > hGH > Liquid Carbs + Liquid Protein;


Mid-Workout:
Set > Few sips of Liquid Carbs;


Post-workout:
Insulin > hGH > High GI Food Carbs + Food Protein + Food AND Powdered Electrolytes.



My Example
(again, do keep in mind that my carb intake is slightly higher than the bare minimum):


Total Per Day - 10IU NovoRapid, 4IU hGh, 300g Carbs (peri-workout only) + Electrolytes

with the sequence being:


Pre-Workout:
5IU Insulin > 2IU hGh > 100g Liquid Carbs + 25g Liquid Protein;


Mid-Workout:
Set > Few sips of Carbs (100g total);


Post-Workout:
5IU Insulin > 2IU hGh > (at least) 100g High GI Food Carbs + 50g Food Protein + 1 serving of Electrolyte Blend ON TOP of Electrolytes I get from food.



Let me reiterate: as long as you ingest enough carbs & electrolytes at adequate Insulin doses, you should be completely fine.

Regarding Insulin resistance, Insulin should only be used throughout your blasts (16 weeks being the ideal timeframe). After that (relatively short) period, your body should quite effortlessly return to baseline resistance, even if you don’t do anything about it. However, it’s best that you keep lifting regularly after the blast ends, AND shred as quickly as possible (as higher bodyfat has been shown to contribute to Insulin Resistance over and over again).

Last thing to note (although should be fucking obvious) is to double-check the amount of units per click on YOUR pen.

​

---

IV
Conclusion:

Insulin will give you pretty fucking solid gains if paired with AAS and hGH. It is piss easy to use, is not expensive, and it’s pretty unlikely to buy some boof shit, since it’s quite easy to source it pretty much anywhere.

To summarize: Stay consistent, consume appropriate nutrients (especially Carbs), monitor Blood Glucose frequently, don’t OD, train even post-cycle, and ideally, shred as quickly as possible after said cycle (DNP & GLP-1 Agonists are your best friends for that).
And above all else - enjoy your slayer Sik Kunt lives.

​

---

Tags: @Menas @Chad @Orka @AverageTevvezFan @SlayerJonas​

Great thread, thanks for saving me hours of research. You’re an S tier user

 

[flincell]

---

 

[Sadist]

@estrogen consumer

 

[Snow19]

Do I need to pair with gh or is just with aas fine?

 

[Sadist]

Do I need to pair with gh or is just with aas fine?

very much preferred to use all three

 

[Histy]

As always , Peak thread from sadist.
Mirin bro , It is awesome
've been looking for this kind of guides about insulin​

 

[sotnasa]

how well would insulin like humalog work purely as a supplement pre workout , i dont have the money to use steroids but i can pretty easily get insulin for free , do you think it would be beneficial and worth it to use it ?

 

[Sadist]

how well would insulin like humalog work purely as a supplement pre workout , i dont have the money to use steroids but i can pretty easily get insulin for free , do you think it would be beneficial and worth it to use it ?

it would defo still help, but of course nowhere near as much as the full combo