The MOST Underrated Bodybuilding Compound - An Introduction to Insulin

[sotnasa]

it would defo still help, but of course nowhere near as much as the full combo

yy i know , might try out using it alone just cause its so easy for me to get it

 

[bjebb007]

Do not fuck around with insulin without doing proper research first, it's seriously dangerous if you don't know what you are doing. But it is crazy effective and very anabolic

 

[sotnasa]

ikik dont worry i have done quite a bit of research but couldnt seem to find any anecdote or evidence of it being used without aas , so was just asking out of curiosity

 

[Somatropin]

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An Introduction to Insulin
By Sadist

Spoiler: DISCLAIMERS

DISCLAIMER 1:
By no means is this medical advice. Everyone is different and some people may respond to this differently to others. Consult with a medical professional for the safest ways to make use of the info you’re about to find out.

DISCLAIMER 2:
This thread is directed at advanced AAS users only. I recommend running at least 2-3 cycles before implementing Insulin into your stack.

Thread Song:


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Preface:


For some reason, I have barely seen anybody talk about pairing Insulin with hGH and AAS on this forum - and it has always really surprised me, as its benefits are very significant.

I have always had everything locked in: training, recovery, macros, gear, etc., yet have always struggled with gaining muscle. That is, until I figured out that my metabolism is batshit insane, and the issue was simply due to the way my body utilizes nutrients. Biologically, the human body does not require to hold onto a lot of muscle mass to function properly, instead focusing on utilizing the nutrients it receives to survive and ensure that all the vital parts are nourished. Even after that happens to be the case, the body is still quite reluctant to direct nutrients towards muscle recovery, directing them to other miscellaneous parts, besides just muscles. This is exactly why you need to eat like a fucking dog in order to get any significant gains, unless you’re myostatin deficient.

The three main pathways of anabolism are Testosterone, IGF-1 (hGH) and Insulin. Each one of them is responsible for a different way, in which myogenesis is assisted, through promoting protein synthesis via their own mechanisms. Whilst the former two are well-known, the latter one seems otherwise - and in this guide, I will break down this pathway, and how to properly take advantage of it.

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Table of Contents:


I
How Does Insulin Work and What are Its Benefits?

II
Side Effects and Risks Related to Insulin

III
Dosing, Protocol & Misc Info

IV
Conclusion


Without further ado, let’s get you proper fucking jacked.




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I
How Does Insulin Work and What are Its Benefits?



Insulin is widely regarded as the most anabolic compound you can take. And that is for a good reason. Insulin works by interacting with GLUT4 receptors, which greatly ascends nutrient partitioning, specifically amino acids and glucose, sending a very good chunk of them straight into muscle cells. By doing this, it essentially helps you overcome the issues described in the preface, by basically telling your body to stop LDARing - and use the nutrients that you stuff your mug with to ascend and thrive, instead of forcing you to live in misery as a sad skinny chud. Now this, of course, does not mean that your body will start neglecting all your vitals and solely focus on building muscle all of a sudden - not at all. That is, of course, if you ensure correct (thus obviously, sufficient) nutrient intake. Insulin also directly synergizes with hGH and Testosterone pretty fucking well.


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II
Side Effects and Risks Related to Insulin:



Just like a lot of other compounds, Insulin use is heavily fear-mongered. A lot of high inhib faggots will never cease to yell shit like “don’t use slin, you can easily die from your very first injection!”. Bullshit. Similarly to compounds like DNP, as long as you are not a retard, take Insulin at proper doses, and do all other required things (which are pretty fucking effortless, mind you) - you will be completely fine. Below, I will list all most common potential side effects that can occur from Insulin usage, although again, do consider that you may pretty much only get them if your IQ is sub-80:



Hypoglycemia - Insulin, quite obviously, lowers blood sugar. This is actually the shit that can potentially kill you if you take it carelessly;

Insulin resistance - prolonged exogenous Insulin usage will make your body tolerant to it, and therefore may spike your baseline glucose levels slightly upon discontinuation. However, there is a very easy fix for that, that I will touch on shortly;

Hypokalemia - intake enough electrolytes;

Injection site reactions - just pin properly.



Now that we have those covered, I will tell you exactly how to avoid each and every single one of them through using Insulin properly.

​

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III
Insulin Dosing, Protocol & Misc. Info:

Rapid-Acting Insulin is the superior option. And it is so simply due to the fact that you have way more control over it, as compared to its Long-Acting counterpart. The half-life of the former is mere 2-5 hours, whilst the latter varies anywhere from 25 to 45 hours. This makes Rapid very convenient to use, as we will be administering it in a peri-workout fashion.

There is no need to dose Insulin too high, as the benefit it will bring will be pretty marginal compared to the risks and pain in the ass it can create. With that said, I personally know a 15 year-old low-inhib guy, who used to take 60 or 70 units of NovoRapid per day (with proof) and was completely fine, although again, this is completely anecdotal, and he is still an idiot for doing that. It simply shows that Insulin does not equate to “muh instant death”.

Before we go any further, it is CRUCIAL you buy a Blood Glucose Monitor and optimally, use it three times a day. The generally agreed-upon optimal baseline Glucose Levels are 3.9-5.4mmol/L fasted and below 7.8mmol/L unfasted.

We will be dosing Rapid-Acting Insulin at 5-15IU per day. You can go up to 20IU, but I simply think there is no need.

As mentioned above, it is best to take Insulin (but also hGH) is peri-workout, to maximize its efficiency. The way to do it is to simply split the dose in half, and take one half pre, and the other one post workout. I heavily suggest pairing Insulin with hGH at the very least, but obviously also ideally with AAS.

Carb intake is VERY important to ensure you have enough nutrients to direct to both muscles AND vitals, so that you don’t go hypo. The general rule of thumb is 1IU Insulin per 10g Carbs, but I personally prefer to have a bit more Carbs than that; better safe than sorry, you know? Not only that, but it’s best to also have an appropriate Carb intake throughout your workout, as lifting depletes your glycogen stores pretty fucking hard. My personal recommendation is a carbohydrate blend that comes in powder form, as it is very easy to prepare and consume Pre and Mid-Workout. For Post-Workout Carbs, I recommend getting them from High GI food (The GI Index being a system, which ranks different foods from 1 to 100, depending on the speed, at which they raise Glucose levels).

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I also recommend taking around 25g Protein Pre-Workout (and obviously a sufficient amount Post, but that’s water). Appropriate Post-Workout Electrolyte intake is also recommended to further avoid feeling like shit, which I recommend getting from both food AND a serving of powdered electrolytes/supplements.

Below, I will demonstrate both the sequence, in which you should take your compounds, and give my example.



The sequence should go as follows:


Pre-Workout:
Insulin > hGH > Liquid Carbs + Liquid Protein;


Mid-Workout:
Set > Few sips of Liquid Carbs;


Post-workout:
Insulin > hGH > High GI Food Carbs + Food Protein + Food AND Powdered Electrolytes.



My Example
(again, do keep in mind that my carb intake is slightly higher than the bare minimum):


Total Per Day - 10IU NovoRapid, 4IU hGh, 300g Carbs (peri-workout only) + Electrolytes

with the sequence being:


Pre-Workout:
5IU Insulin > 2IU hGh > 100g Liquid Carbs + 25g Liquid Protein;


Mid-Workout:
Set > Few sips of Carbs (100g total);


Post-Workout:
5IU Insulin > 2IU hGh > (at least) 100g High GI Food Carbs + 50g Food Protein + 1 serving of Electrolyte Blend ON TOP of Electrolytes I get from food.



Let me reiterate: as long as you ingest enough carbs & electrolytes at adequate Insulin doses, you should be completely fine.

Regarding Insulin resistance, Insulin should only be used throughout your blasts (16 weeks being the ideal timeframe). After that (relatively short) period, your body should quite effortlessly return to baseline resistance, even if you don’t do anything about it. However, it’s best that you keep lifting regularly after the blast ends, AND shred as quickly as possible (as higher bodyfat has been shown to contribute to Insulin Resistance over and over again).

Last thing to note (although should be fucking obvious) is to double-check the amount of units per click on YOUR pen.

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IV
Conclusion:

Insulin will give you pretty fucking solid gains if paired with AAS and hGH. It is piss easy to use, is not expensive, and it’s pretty unlikely to buy some boof shit, since it’s quite easy to source it pretty much anywhere.

To summarize: Stay consistent, consume appropriate nutrients (especially Carbs), monitor Blood Glucose frequently, don’t OD, train even post-cycle, and ideally, shred as quickly as possible after said cycle (DNP & GLP-1 Agonists are your best friends for that).
And above all else - enjoy your slayer Sik Kunt lives.

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Tags: @Menas @Chad @Orka @AverageTevvezFan @SlayerJonas​

How to not get fat using slin?

How to prevent the bodybuilder gh gut?

Okay to use hgh at night fasted to reap the full lypolosis benefits?

 

[Sadist]

How to not get fat using slin?

cardio and clean diet ig

How to prevent the bodybuilder gh gut?

takes ages and double digit ius to get that

Okay to use hgh at night fasted to reap the full lypolosis benefits?

should be yeah, although watch ur glucose to not go hyper

 

[Lonely]

View attachment 4719765

An Introduction to Insulin
By Sadist

Spoiler: DISCLAIMERS

DISCLAIMER 1:
By no means is this medical advice. Everyone is different and some people may respond to this differently to others. Consult with a medical professional for the safest ways to make use of the info you’re about to find out.

DISCLAIMER 2:
This thread is directed at advanced AAS users only. I recommend running at least 2-3 cycles before implementing Insulin into your stack.

Thread Song:


​

---

Preface:


For some reason, I have barely seen anybody talk about pairing Insulin with hGH and AAS on this forum - and it has always really surprised me, as its benefits are very significant.

I have always had everything locked in: training, recovery, macros, gear, etc., yet have always struggled with gaining muscle. That is, until I figured out that my metabolism is batshit insane, and the issue was simply due to the way my body utilizes nutrients. Biologically, the human body does not require to hold onto a lot of muscle mass to function properly, instead focusing on utilizing the nutrients it receives to survive and ensure that all the vital parts are nourished. Even after that happens to be the case, the body is still quite reluctant to direct nutrients towards muscle recovery, directing them to other miscellaneous parts, besides just muscles. This is exactly why you need to eat like a fucking dog in order to get any significant gains, unless you’re myostatin deficient.

The three main pathways of anabolism are Testosterone, IGF-1 (hGH) and Insulin. Each one of them is responsible for a different way, in which myogenesis is assisted, through promoting protein synthesis via their own mechanisms. Whilst the former two are well-known, the latter one seems otherwise - and in this guide, I will break down this pathway, and how to properly take advantage of it.

​

---

Table of Contents:


I
How Does Insulin Work and What are Its Benefits?

II
Side Effects and Risks Related to Insulin

III
Dosing, Protocol & Misc Info

IV
Conclusion


Without further ado, let’s get you proper fucking jacked.




​

---

I
How Does Insulin Work and What are Its Benefits?



Insulin is widely regarded as the most anabolic compound you can take. And that is for a good reason. Insulin works by interacting with GLUT4 receptors, which greatly ascends nutrient partitioning, specifically amino acids and glucose, sending a very good chunk of them straight into muscle cells. By doing this, it essentially helps you overcome the issues described in the preface, by basically telling your body to stop LDARing - and use the nutrients that you stuff your mug with to ascend and thrive, instead of forcing you to live in misery as a sad skinny chud. Now this, of course, does not mean that your body will start neglecting all your vitals and solely focus on building muscle all of a sudden - not at all. That is, of course, if you ensure correct (thus obviously, sufficient) nutrient intake. Insulin also directly synergizes with hGH and Testosterone pretty fucking well.


View attachment 4721516

​

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II
Side Effects and Risks Related to Insulin:



Just like a lot of other compounds, Insulin use is heavily fear-mongered. A lot of high inhib faggots will never cease to yell shit like “don’t use slin, you can easily die from your very first injection!”. Bullshit. Similarly to compounds like DNP, as long as you are not a retard, take Insulin at proper doses, and do all other required things (which are pretty fucking effortless, mind you) - you will be completely fine. Below, I will list all most common potential side effects that can occur from Insulin usage, although again, do consider that you may pretty much only get them if your IQ is sub-80:



Hypoglycemia - Insulin, quite obviously, lowers blood sugar. This is actually the shit that can potentially kill you if you take it carelessly;

Insulin resistance - prolonged exogenous Insulin usage will make your body tolerant to it, and therefore may spike your baseline glucose levels slightly upon discontinuation. However, there is a very easy fix for that, that I will touch on shortly;

Hypokalemia - intake enough electrolytes;

Injection site reactions - just pin properly.



Now that we have those covered, I will tell you exactly how to avoid each and every single one of them through using Insulin properly.

​

---

III
Insulin Dosing, Protocol & Misc. Info:

Rapid-Acting Insulin is the superior option. And it is so simply due to the fact that you have way more control over it, as compared to its Long-Acting counterpart. The half-life of the former is mere 2-5 hours, whilst the latter varies anywhere from 25 to 45 hours. This makes Rapid very convenient to use, as we will be administering it in a peri-workout fashion.

There is no need to dose Insulin too high, as the benefit it will bring will be pretty marginal compared to the risks and pain in the ass it can create. With that said, I personally know a 15 year-old low-inhib guy, who used to take 60 or 70 units of NovoRapid per day (with proof) and was completely fine, although again, this is completely anecdotal, and he is still an idiot for doing that. It simply shows that Insulin does not equate to “muh instant death”.

Before we go any further, it is CRUCIAL you buy a Blood Glucose Monitor and optimally, use it three times a day. The generally agreed-upon optimal baseline Glucose Levels are 3.9-5.4mmol/L fasted and below 7.8mmol/L unfasted.

We will be dosing Rapid-Acting Insulin at 5-15IU per day. You can go up to 20IU, but I simply think there is no need.

As mentioned above, it is best to take Insulin (but also hGH) is peri-workout, to maximize its efficiency. The way to do it is to simply split the dose in half, and take one half pre, and the other one post workout. I heavily suggest pairing Insulin with hGH at the very least, but obviously also ideally with AAS.

Carb intake is VERY important to ensure you have enough nutrients to direct to both muscles AND vitals, so that you don’t go hypo. The general rule of thumb is 1IU Insulin per 10g Carbs, but I personally prefer to have a bit more Carbs than that; better safe than sorry, you know? Not only that, but it’s best to also have an appropriate Carb intake throughout your workout, as lifting depletes your glycogen stores pretty fucking hard. My personal recommendation is a carbohydrate blend that comes in powder form, as it is very easy to prepare and consume Pre and Mid-Workout. For Post-Workout Carbs, I recommend getting them from High GI food (The GI Index being a system, which ranks different foods from 1 to 100, depending on the speed, at which they raise Glucose levels).

View attachment 4721498

I also recommend taking around 25g Protein Pre-Workout (and obviously a sufficient amount Post, but that’s water). Appropriate Post-Workout Electrolyte intake is also recommended to further avoid feeling like shit, which I recommend getting from both food AND a serving of powdered electrolytes/supplements.

Below, I will demonstrate both the sequence, in which you should take your compounds, and give my example.



The sequence should go as follows:


Pre-Workout:
Insulin > hGH > Liquid Carbs + Liquid Protein;


Mid-Workout:
Set > Few sips of Liquid Carbs;


Post-workout:
Insulin > hGH > High GI Food Carbs + Food Protein + Food AND Powdered Electrolytes.



My Example
(again, do keep in mind that my carb intake is slightly higher than the bare minimum):


Total Per Day - 10IU NovoRapid, 4IU hGh, 300g Carbs (peri-workout only) + Electrolytes

with the sequence being:


Pre-Workout:
5IU Insulin > 2IU hGh > 100g Liquid Carbs + 25g Liquid Protein;


Mid-Workout:
Set > Few sips of Carbs (100g total);


Post-Workout:
5IU Insulin > 2IU hGh > (at least) 100g High GI Food Carbs + 50g Food Protein + 1 serving of Electrolyte Blend ON TOP of Electrolytes I get from food.



Let me reiterate: as long as you ingest enough carbs & electrolytes at adequate Insulin doses, you should be completely fine.

Regarding Insulin resistance, Insulin should only be used throughout your blasts (16 weeks being the ideal timeframe). After that (relatively short) period, your body should quite effortlessly return to baseline resistance, even if you don’t do anything about it. However, it’s best that you keep lifting regularly after the blast ends, AND shred as quickly as possible (as higher bodyfat has been shown to contribute to Insulin Resistance over and over again).

Last thing to note (although should be fucking obvious) is to double-check the amount of units per click on YOUR pen.

​

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IV
Conclusion:

Insulin will give you pretty fucking solid gains if paired with AAS and hGH. It is piss easy to use, is not expensive, and it’s pretty unlikely to buy some boof shit, since it’s quite easy to source it pretty much anywhere.

To summarize: Stay consistent, consume appropriate nutrients (especially Carbs), monitor Blood Glucose frequently, don’t OD, train even post-cycle, and ideally, shred as quickly as possible after said cycle (DNP & GLP-1 Agonists are your best friends for that).
And above all else - enjoy your slayer Sik Kunt lives.

​

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Tags: @Menas @Chad @Orka @AverageTevvezFan @SlayerJonas​

How would you use Insulin with MK677 and/or CJC DAC? Assuming you have a Test base.

Maybe 25mg MK677 at night, and 5-10IU Insulin PWO. Not sure if it’d be any good though.