The normie invasion is getting crazy

ur right but theres still features we share with genetic determination(bp)
genetics are random, things u dont choose
genetics play factors in looks, appearance, and even how you act
enviroments out of your control also play a factor

these are the basis of this site, everything this far has been attempts and solutions to this fundamental problem
Yes we do, but we are very and veryyy different from incels, ask gengy bhaijaan for once, the incels are lowkey weird jeets with an obsession with being superior, just view a bit of threads on .is
 
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Dont go to .is, its a creepy community of fat chuds and indian teenagers who think they are mentally superior to other jeets, im making a thread on them, about why indians even bother to be on forums
yeah .is is a shithole tho, tried to rot on there for a few days it sukz balls
the sites layers of descreteness is insane, u need like a month of experience before u even understand there humor
 
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yeah .is is a shithole tho, tried to rot on there for a few days it sukz balls
the sites layers of descreteness is insane, u need like a month of experience before u even understand there humor
They dont care about privacy too, they will immediatly hand over your ip adress to authorities, just read their terms and conditions for once
 
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It should be obvious that a community that is about improving your sex life has people who failed and who can relate to each other

It's normal that a blackpilled community has doomers
 
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no it doesnt, its a redpill offshoot but if were gonna crosscheck it with other communities of the likes, then psl is the closest to the traditional incel culture bc it involves the subtle hint of genetic determination with our discussions which in extention is basically the belief of the bp, the owner is bped, teh originial userbase except some exceptions were bped (@Ghost Philosophy correct me if im wrong)
and most of the userbase up untill this point who joined has came with the beliefs of genetic determination
No, they joined out of the idea of getting looks by any means
Genetic determination literally goes against looksmaxxing
The literal founder of the term BP said "The Blackpill is that there are no Personal solutions to Systemic issues"
Systemic issues being feminism btw :pepeHA::pepeHA: Which nobody in this forum cares about
Looksmaxxing is a personal solution trying to fix a systemic issue, which is looks based discrimination
I would say PSL theory is WILDLY different from the BP, we just call what is actually PSLTheory "BP for convenience since it's already an established term.
When I talk to looksmaxxing OG's from 2019, they all call it PSL Theory
And that L has much more weight than the "PS"

P: game doesn't work
S: the idea of hypergamy
L: literally EVERYTHING ELSE in PSLTheory

Incels on .is literally argue that looksmaxxing is retarded and for 99% of people ,unless you are insanley lucky, will never be able to even ascend half a point above basic skincare

Who do you think is more PSL-Esque
The original creator of the blackpill, some random incel who was popular on men's rights forums and blogs, or Zyzz?
 
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what the forum was /=/ what it is now.
who decided that? When did this place stop becoming a place for “unfortunate” people and start becoming a place only for normies like you?

It’s still pretty clearly a place which attracts a lot of disenfranchised people hence why normies here complain so much about it.

It’s a place for looksmaxxing but also a place for incels, those two things aren’t mutually exclusive.

it is clearly stated in the rules that this forum is about self-improvement, not anything else.
Remember this thread :lul:

Now read the part where Aristotle explains nuance. This forum was indeed created to accommodate incels

Not everything is explicitly stated usually your high iq enough to be able to read between lines and know the implications of things.:feelsping:
 
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No, they joined out of the idea of getting looks by any means
Genetic determination literally goes against looksmaxxing and the bp
The literal founder of the term BP said "The Blackpill is that there are no Personal solutions to Systemic issues"
Systemic issues being feminism btw :pepeHA::pepeHA: Which nobody in this forum cares about
Looksmaxxing is a personal solution trying to fix a systemic issue, which is looks based discrimination
I would say PSL theory is WILDLY different from the BP, we just call what is actually PSLTheory "BP for convenience since it's already an established term.
When I talk to looksmaxxing OG's from 2019, they all call it PSL Theory
And that L has much more weight than the "PS"

P: game doesn't work
S: the idea of hypergamy
L: literally EVERYTHING ELSE in PSLTheory

Incels on .is literally argue that looksmaxxing is retarded and for 99% of people ,unless you are insanley lucky, will never be able to even ascend half a point above basic skincare

Who do you think is more PSL-Esque
The original creator of the blackpill, some random incel who was popular on men's rights forums and blogs, or Zyzz?
ggz u out iqmogged me
a game over screen with mario sitting on a red background
 
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It should be obvious that a community that is about improving your sec life has people failed and who can relate to each other
This is literally the answer it’s about self improvement but it’s also a space friendly towards unfortunate people

It’s that’s simple that’s what the it’s about regardless of how normies try to erase it.
 
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It’s only now that normies like you show up are trying to say it’s not a place for incels.
Incels that do nothing but complain have always been a point of contention on this site. There's always been people that call them out for their unproductive self pity. I don't think they should be banned, but you don't have to tolerate their mindset either.
 
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I don't think they should be banned, but you don't have to tolerate their mindset either.
That’s the point of this forum it’s supposed to be a space for men, especially unfortunate men.

The idea that this place was never meant to accommodate incels is pretty clearly not true
 
This is literally the answer it’s about self improvement but it’s also a space friendly towards unfortunate people

It’s that’s simple that’s what the it’s about regardless of how normies try to erase it.
For me, and for everyone on here including forum legends, it has always been about "masculinity", every trend and meme has somewhat of a connection with this, the sigma meme, patrick bateman etc. Even if you ask my little brother who is very young, who he admires, he will say zyzz.

All these bodybuilding creators, heck even my gymceler dad is related to incels, everything on the internet was shaped by the need for toxic masculinity by chuds.

The sigma meme was just a start to the looksmaxxing trend becoming mainstream, or better i say the gigachad meme.

Many users on here arent even for looks, i have been on car forums, football forums and bodybuilding forums and they all have these things in common, its natural for them to collide.

Its just a matter of how extreme

(sorry for the bad english kek)
 
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Incels create their own space to talk about shit and we have normies like @trump trying to dictate what incels should talk about in a blackpill space:feelskek:

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Idc about the forum's dynamics in terms of what users post, but these 2025 mfs are so disgusting istg, most of them are white (ofc), felt the need to join a looksmax forum (cause their dick dry as shit), spend tons of hours posting and typing nonsense (clearly incel/social reject behaviour) and still have the nerve to act like they are superior than anyone else...

The irony man...:feelskek::feelskek:
 
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That’s the point of this forum it’s supposed to be a space for men, especially unfortunate men.

The idea that this place was never meant to accommodate incels is pretty clearly not true
Yes, it is supposed to accommodate them. By helping them improve their looks.
Not by validating their defeatist, self sorry and lazy mindset.
 
I have 150 ignored
All normies so this situation ain't that bad
 
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Yes, it is supposed to accommodate them. By helping them improve their looks.
Not by validating their defeatist, self sorry and lazy mindset.
There is a limit to how much you can improve your looks. This isn’t Disney land not everyone can become decent looking.

It’s meant for looksmaxxing but also a place where incels can feel heard. And you’re right that people have always complained about certain types but people have said all sorts of things on this forum, that’s point the forum is supposed to have free speech

It’s meant for incels even if they don’t want to improve their looks.
 
There is a limit to how much you can improve your looks. This isn’t Disney land not everyone can become decent looking.
Sure there's a limit. But defeatist incels rarely ever come close to reaching that limit.
And even if they have reached their limit, and they still have subhuman looks, complaining about it does nothing but cause more misery.
But really, 99% of people can reach at least MTN with hardmaxxes, which is enough to not be forced into inceldom because of looks.
If you are an incel at MTN+, it's not because of your looks.
that’s point the forum is supposed to have free speech
I really have no idea where you get that impression from. Plenty of speech is banned on here. You should take a look at the rules.
It’s meant for incels even if they don’t want to improve their looks.
It absolutely isn't "meant" for them. It is meant for men's self improvement. The site itself literally lines it out for you.
Screenshot 2026 02 22 at 21 57 44 Rules and FAQ Looksmaxorg   Mens Self Improvement  Aesthe
 
That PS is much more weaker than the L part

Lol, Lookism threads and personalities are much more talked about than the PS parts
What the fuck? Can you name a single PS personality? :pepeHA::pepeHA: Apart from maybe ER who you only know because of the trajedy he committed
The L comes from the PS. Looksmaxing was the natural response to pua who denied the importance of looks on why incels were cels.

You literally know nothing, stick to making water threads nigger
 
The L comes from the PS. Looksmaxing was the natural response to pua who denied the importance of looks on why incels were cels.
Lookism started as a psuedo bodybuiilding forum, not from Puahate of Sluthate
You literally know nothing, stick to making water threads nigger
Why mean
 
complaining about it does nothing but cause more misery.
The forum was always meant for people to be heard

If people want to complain the forum is also meant for that. Theres literally a venting tag for posts.

I really have no idea where you get that impression from. Plenty of speech is banned on here. You should take a look at the rules.
Never claimed there was no moderation but You can say almost anything on here, there is obviously a much greater degree of freedom where compared to other online spaces.

It absolutely isn't "meant" for them. It is meant for men's self improvement. The site itself literally lines it out for you.
Not everything is explicitly stated if you look into the founding of this forum it’s obviously meant as a space for incels to congregate and be heard regardless of whether normies like you want to erase it

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This place isn’t meant for your Disney fantasy otherwise it wouldn’t have tags like “over” or “blackpill” for posts. You can go to r/looksmaxxing on Reddit if you can’t handle this forum.
 
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The forum was always meant for people to be heard
Yes, people hear them, and then they tell them what they think of what they've heard. Which doesn't always have to validate their beliefs.
You don't want to be "heard", you want a shitty echo chamber that never challenges your beliefs.
This place isn’t meant for your Disney fantasy
You can go to r/looksmaxxing on Reddit
On one hand, this place is supposedly some "bastion of free speech" for "people to be heard", but at the same time, people that don't align with your loser mentality aren't supposed to speak their mind here and go somewhere else. Make it make sense.
otherwise it wouldn’t have tags like “over” or “blackpill” for posts
It also has a "bluepill" tag. Does that mean the site is "meant" for bluepillers? No. They aren't banned from posting, but it's not "meant" for them.

This self improvement site has roots in incel culture, because incels require self improvement. You are conflating "being an incel" with "being a defeatist crybaby faggot".
 
How did this thread end up becoming an argument :forcedsmile:
 
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Normies have no business on the site at all

hard to get in
why can’t we just make the application process harder for org. i literally wrote let me in bhai on mine and i get accepted. we need borders
 
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This forum is what master makes out of it tbh. He cares about free speech so it's part of this forum. The forum can be divided into looksmaxing section self-improvers, off-topic rotters and ppl in-between primarely.

Doomers / people that don't care about self-improvement don't belong here. consequently degenerate stuff like porn threads should be banned.
Self improvement is for fucking retards
 
Incels create their own space to talk about shit and we have normies like @trump trying to dictate what incels should talk about in a blackpill space:feelskek:
this is not an incel forum and never was
 
This forum is what master makes out of it tbh. He cares about free speech so it's part of this forum. The forum can be divided into looksmaxing section self-improvers, off-topic rotters and ppl in-between primarely.

Doomers / people that don't care about self-improvement don't belong here. consequently degenerate stuff like porn threads should be banned.
So how do u exactly know when someone isnt actively trying to selfimprove?

It can be justified with offtopic rotting, no?
 
I never said it was an incel forum but it was made explicitly to accomadate incels and also for looksmaxxing
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The word “psl” literally references the the incel forums from which psl culture emerged from. Though normies like you wouldn’t know that:forcedsmile:

And when the creation of this forum was being discussed it was explicitly said that it was going to be a space where incels could feel at home.

You can’t seperate org from incels, go back to Reddit
 
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I never said it was an incel forum but it was made explicitly to accomadate incels
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The word “psl” literally references the the incel forums from which psl culture emerged from. Though normies like you wouldn’t know that:forcedsmile:

And when the creation of this forum was being discussed it was explicitly said that it was going to be a space where incels could feel at home.

You can’t seperate org from incels, go back to Reddit
puahate sluthate and lookism
 
I never said it was an incel forum but it was made explicitly to accomadate incels and also for looksmaxxing
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The word “psl” literally references the the incel forums from which psl culture emerged from. Though normies like you wouldn’t know that:forcedsmile:

And when the creation of this forum was being discussed it was explicitly said that it was going to be a space where incels could feel at home.

You can’t seperate org from incels, go back to Reddit
org was clearly made for the people from those spaces who actually gave a fuck about improving their looks and quality of life not just rotting.

I don't really know what point you are trying to make here.
 
I don't really know what point you are trying to make here.
Because you’re a brain dead normie and like most norm fags. obviously org was made by people who care about looksmaxxing I never denied that smooth brain :feelskek:

But it’ also was made as a space for incels to be comfortable and feel at home. The owner of the site is literally an incel who doesn’t even Looksmax and when him ghost philosophy and the other people involved in the founding of this site were talking about its creation they said they wanted it to be a place for incels to feel heard and at home.
 
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Because you’re a brain dead normie and like most norm fags obviously org was made by people who care about looksmaxxing I never denied that you :feelskek:

But it’s also was made as a space for incels to be comfortable and feel at home. The owner of the site is literally an incel who doesn’t even Looksmax and when him ghost philosophy and the other people involved in the founding of this site were talking about its creation they said they wanted it to be a place for incels to feel heard and at home.
you joined in 2023, i started scrolling here in 2024 why are you talking like you were here from the beginning, you haven't been in "the know" much longer than i have.

And i'm not denying that this place was meant to be a safe place for incels but to act like that was the core reason for this site is retarded.

And i'm not agreeing with the trump guy either.

maybe i'm misunderstanding your point
 
you joined in 2023, i started scrolling here in 2024 why are you talking like you were here from the beginning, you haven't been in "the know" much longer than i have.
I used to have an old account here I’ve been in these spaces for way longer than any of the norm fags who’ve infested this place.

99% of you guys don’t even know who faceandlms or st.brandon is or don’t even know about Richard coopers roommate.

maybe i'm misunderstanding your point
The point is yes this forum is about looksmaxxing but it is also a space for unfortunate men to be heard. If you normies can’t deal with being around incels you can always go to r/looksmaxxing on Reddit.

Either coexist or leave bud incels aren’t going anywhere.
 
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Looksmax didnt begin as this omg lets self improve. No idea why autists think that.
 
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Incels create their own space to talk about shit and we have normies like @trump trying to dictate what incels should talk about in a blackpill space:feelskek:

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I saw a post from a tiktok fag today crying about colonialism and saying america needs ti be more liberal :soy:
 
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I used to have an old account here I’ve been in these spaces for way longer than any of the norm fags who’ve infested this place.

99% of you guys don’t even know who faceandlms or st.brandon is or don’t even know about Richard coopers roommate.


The point is yes this forum is about looksmaxxing but it is also a space for unfortunate men to be heard. If you normies can’t deal with being around incels you can always go to r/looksmaxxing on Reddit.

Either coexist or leave bud incels aren’t going anywhere.
Most users who are here/have ever been here were volcels anyway.

At the end of the day it doesn't matter what gengar and master thought when they created it, it's the users who dictate a place.

And clearly this is a looksmaxxing first, incel venting place second. Not the other way round.
 
master thought when they created it, it's the users who dictate a place.
Nigga the person who created the site dictates it. If he wanted master could nuke you off this forum you don’t “dictate” shit faggot

The person who creates a thing obviously decides the intention of it

This site was created with incels in mind and we will always be here regardless of how much you norm fags complain.

And clearly this is a looksmaxxing first, incel venting place second. Not the other way round.
It’s both, you get to choose which path you want to take that’s the point iqlet:feelsuhh: I’m not saying don’t Looksmax go ahead you’re free to do that

But incels are also free to vent if you can’t deal with it then fuck off.
 
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Nigga the person who created the site dictates it. If he wanted master could nuke you off this forum you don’t “dictate” shit faggot
No shit retard, i didn't say i personally dictate anything, But what is a forum without its users. This is obviously a primarily looksmaxxing forum that also welcomes incels to vent, Most people here would agree that this isn't an incel forum. Go back to incels.is if you think that
 
But what is a forum without its users.
The users choose what they discuss but that doesn’t mean they control what the forum is supposed to be about. Sorry but normies don’t dictate shit in psl spaces. Normies here invade a space made to accommodate incels and then complain about incels. Norm fag iq on display

Also most users are fine with incels being here and discussing our lives so what’s your point? It’s just new gens like you who didn’t even know what mog meant before 2025 complaining abt us talking about our lives

that also welcomes incels to vent
Then you normies need to stop whining about that. If you don’t like it once again I have the perfect site for you.

Reddit.com you won’t have to deal with any incels there have fun! Seriously why do you normies do this? Literally every single space we make you invade. It would be fine but you faggots repeatedly try to push us out of our spaces. Then we make a new niche and you faggots come and rape that too:lul:
 
The users choose what they discuss but that doesn’t mean they control what the forum is supposed to be about. Sorry but normies don’t dictate shit in psl spaces. Normies here invade a space made to accommodate incels and then complain about incels. Norm fag iq on display

Also most users are fine with incels being here and discussing our lives so what’s your point? It’s just new gens like you who didn’t even know what mog meant before 2025 complaining abt us talking about our lives


Then you normies need to stop whining about that. If you don’t like it once again I have the perfect site for you.

Reddit.com you won’t have to deal with any incels there have fun! Seriously why do you normies do this? Literally every single space we make you invade. It would be fine but you faggots repeatedly try to push us out of our spaces. Then we make a new niche and you faggots come and rape that too:lul:

read my replies and find where i said i had a problem with other incels talking about their lives on here, all i said was its not an incel forum because i thought that was what you were implying in your original post. It can accomodate incels but its purpose is not to be an incel forum, its called fucking looksmax.org, that implies you are actively taking the steps to ascend and leave inceldom behind.

And as you mentioned earlier, who tf cares if gengar isn't a looksmaxxer he can do whatever tf he wants he's basically a founding member. That's like mentioning how the owners of a sports team don't play the sport themselves.

I literally have my own posts on this forum venting about my life, in there i also mention how i've been here for quite some time.

stop trying to dismiss anyone you disagree with by calling them a normfag :lul: that is incredibly cringe
 
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It can accomodate incels but its purpose is not to be an incel forum,
I don’t know how many times I have to explain this to your 70 iq mentally recessed normie brain but I never said it was an incel forum but it was made to accommodate incels

So we have a place here no matter how much you cry about it. It was designed as a place for all incels to be welcome not just ones who are trying to “ascend”.

That's like mentioning how the owners of a sports team don't play the sport themselves.
they participate in the forum as well, and the point of bringing them up is to show that this is indeed a place created to accommodate incels. It objectively is as the founders have stated so normies like you can’t say we don’t belong here

stop trying to dismiss anyone you disagree with by calling them a normfag :lul: that is incredibly cringe
You’re a norm fag that’s just reality I’m not “dismissing” shit
 
This is all Master’s and the admins fault btw
 
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that implies you are actively taking the steps to ascend and leave inceldom behind.
No it implies that there is a focus on looksmaxxing which there is, this doesn’t mean that org isn’t a place for incels. Two things can be true at the same time stop being retarded. It was explicitly made to include incels.
 
This is all Master’s and the admins fault btw
Yeah it is tbh, why would they let in so many users if they truly care about creating a safe space for incels
 
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No it implies that there is a focus on looksmaxxing which there is, this doesn’t mean that org isn’t a place for incels. Two things can be true at the same time stop being retarded. It was explicitly made to include incels.
Yes it was made to include incels but the primary purpose was looksmaxxing like I’ve been saying. Don’t know how you can argue with that. It’s obvious that the people who actually needed a forum dedicated to looksmaxxing in the first place would be classified as incels anyway, especially back then. But that doesn’t mean it’s made for incels to fuck around and not contribute anything of value.

I’m all for incels Venting and making serious posts about their life but not these retarded nsfw threads, bbc cuck stories and copypasta incest threads.
 
Yes it was made to include incels but the primary purpose was looksmaxxing like I’ve been saying.
Most people don’t use this forum that way when posting here. according to you the users dictate the forum so this forum actually isn’t about looksmaxxing. I actually agree though obviously the primary intention of this forums creation was to put more focus on looksmaxxing

It’s just funny how you’re so retarded that you don’t even realize you contradicted yourself

But that doesn’t mean it’s made for incels to fuck around and not contribute anything of value.
It literally is:lul: if an incel wants to do that they can that’s what offtopic is for and they creators explicitly stated for it to be a safe space for incels. Not just incels who want to “improooove” but incels in general. It was meant to be a place where we could get away from your normie garbage whining about how “oh brother you need to take 200 showers a day man”
 
Most people don’t use this forum that way when posting here. according to you the users dictate the forum so this forum actually isn’t about looksmaxxing. I actually agree though obviously the primary intention of this forums creation was to put more focus on looksmaxxing

It’s just funny how you’re so retarded that you don’t even realize you contradicted yourself


It literally is:lul: if an incel wants to do that they can that’s what offtopic is for and they creators explicitly stated for it to be a safe space for incels. Not just incels who want to “improooove” but incels in general. It was meant to be a place where we could get away from your normie garbage whining about how “oh brother you need to take 200 showers a day man”
Yeah they can do it if they want but it’s a waste of time and it’s not the main purpose of the forum, also offtopic doesn’t have to be retarded it can be discussing life and topics of some substance not just a disgusting rep-farm hellhole. This is exactly how users lives end up degrading after spending time here.
 

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