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Masteron (Drostanolone) is a DHT-derived anabolic steroid that works differently from other compounds like Testosterone or Trenbolone. It’s known for hardening muscles, enhancing vascularity, improving confidence, and drying out the physique without causing excessive water retention or estrogen-related side effects.

Unlike Tren, which is powerful but unpredictable, and toxic..... Masteron delivers steady, aesthetic-focused results without wrecking your mental state.


How Masteron Works in the Body

Masteron primarily works through three key mechanisms:

1. It Binds Strongly to Androgen Receptors (AR)

Masteron is a highly androgenic compound, meaning it directly activates androgen receptors in muscle tissue and fat cells.

More AR activation = better fat burning and harder, denser muscles.

Since DHT itself is 3-5x more androgenic than testosterone, Masteron gives a more masculine, dry, and cut look compared to other steroids.


2. It Blocks Estrogen & Reduces Water Retention

Masteron acts as a mild aromatase inhibitor (AI), meaning it lowers estrogen levels slightly.

This makes it great for preventing bloating, puffiness, and soft muscle appearance.

Unlike Testosterone, which can cause water retention, Masteron pulls out excess water, sharpening muscle definition.

End result? You get a drier, harder, and more cut physique
.. without the need for heavy AI use.

3. It Lowers SHBG (Sex Hormone Binding Globulin), Increasing Free Testosterone

SHBG binds to Testosterone, reducing its active effects in the body.

Masteron lowers SHBG, which frees up more testosterone to work in muscle-building and recovery.

This synergizes well with Test, making both compounds work more effectively together.
End result? More free testosterone in circulation = better gains, higher libido, and more energy.


The Aesthetic Effects of Masteron

Hardens Muscles & Reduces Softness

Masteron’s DHT-like effects make muscles feel solid, dense, and dry.

It pulls water from under the skin, which makes veins pop more and muscle striations stand out.

Why Masteron is Better Than Tren for Looksmaxxing


One of the most overlooked looksmaxxing effects of Masteron is how it improves facial structure.

Because it dries you out and removes excess water, your cheekbones and jawline become more defined.

Less subcutaneous fat = sharper, more chiseled features.

Testosterone and Tren can cause puffiness, especially if estrogen isn’t controlled. Masteron eliminates that issue.



The Best Way to Run Masteron for Maximum Aesthetics

If you want the best results from Masteron, here’s how to dose and stack it effectively:

Ideal Dosing

Masteron Propionate → 100mg every other day (300-400mg/week)

Masteron Enanthate → 300-600mg/week (2-3 injections per week)

Best Stacks for Looksmaxxing

Testosterone + Masteron → The gold standard for looking lean, dry, and masculine.
Test + Masteron + Primobolan → A high-end, clean cycle for pure aesthetics.
Test + Masteron + Anavar → The ultimate shredded, Greek statue look.









tldr – Why Masteron is King

DHT-driven compound = Hard, dry, masculine muscle gains

Blocks estrogen naturally = No bloat, no puffiness, no softness

Improves confidence, mental clarity, and focus without making you crazy

Looksmaxxing effects on both muscle and facial aesthetics

Pairs perfectly with Testosterone for an optimized, high-androgen physique


If you want to actually look better, not just get bigger, Masteron is one of the best steroids for aesthetics.



Warning if you have hairloss gene. You will lose hair much much faster. This is ideally for people who have resistant hair loss or very slow like me for example. If your already blading. You will accelerate to 3 norwoods at the end. Unless your hairloss stack is on point. Don't use dht stacks.
 
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Masteron (Drostanolone) is a DHT-derived anabolic steroid that works differently from other compounds like Testosterone or Trenbolone. It’s known for hardening muscles, enhancing vascularity, improving confidence, and drying out the physique without causing excessive water retention or estrogen-related side effects.

Unlike Tren, which is powerful but unpredictable, and toxic..... Masteron delivers steady, aesthetic-focused results without wrecking your mental state.


How Masteron Works in the Body

Masteron primarily works through three key mechanisms:

1. It Binds Strongly to Androgen Receptors (AR)

Masteron is a highly androgenic compound, meaning it directly activates androgen receptors in muscle tissue and fat cells...
RIP collagen, and youthful indicators.
 
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Not a thing if your skin care stack is way ahead. I wear sunscreen. Red light. Tret ( custom made) I do skin peels. I'm 10x ahead of all my peers in aging and I'm 29 soon. All these but this or that is moot if you was always ahead of it. I also am formulating a topical estrogen creme to counter the dht receptors in my skin. It won't go in the blood stream either.
 
“DHT” and “looksmaxxing” in the same sentence
 
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Its a looksmax if you don't get hair loss and have good skincare stack. Its a looksmax short term for majority here but the aging tends to balance it out. However if you are high IQ and apply the bit of science we all understand. You can enjoy the benefits of dht with out it fucking you ( long run only)
 
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have you looked into using top fin/dut with an androgenic cycle?
ik if its oral it nukes dht lmao so dont confuse me with a retard
i saw a post here idk when but it was talking about its localized effect
where it only nukes dht on the aareas it is applied

do you know anything about that mr forum legend? thx
 
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Not a thing if your skin care stack is way ahead. I wear sunscreen. Red light. Tret ( custom made) I do skin peels. I'm 10x ahead of all my peers in aging and I'm 29 soon. All these but this or that is moot if you was always ahead of it. I also am formulating a topical estrogen creme to counter the dht receptors in my skin. It won't go in the blood stream either.
Im happy for you then, sounds like you'll be fine. But recommending it to people who are clueless it will just looksmin them. I pin GHK-cu daily, have ran low dose accutane, used tret, NAC, etc.
 
Masteron (Drostanolone) is a DHT-derived anabolic steroid that works differently from other compounds like Testosterone or Trenbolone. It’s known for hardening muscles, enhancing vascularity, improving confidence, and drying out the physique without causing excessive water retention or estrogen-related side effects.

Unlike Tren, which is powerful but unpredictable, and toxic..... Masteron delivers steady, aesthetic-focused results without wrecking your mental state.


How Masteron Works in the Body

Masteron primarily works through three key mechanisms:

1. It Binds Strongly to Androgen Receptors (AR)

Masteron is a highly androgenic compound, meaning it directly activates androgen receptors in muscle tissue and fat cells.

More AR activation = better fat burning and harder, denser muscles.

Since DHT itself is 3-5x more androgenic than testosterone, Masteron gives a more masculine, dry, and cut look compared to other steroids.


2. It Blocks Estrogen & Reduces Water Retention

Masteron acts as a mild aromatase inhibitor (AI), meaning it lowers estrogen levels slightly.

This makes it great for preventing bloating, puffiness, and soft muscle appearance.

Unlike Testosterone, which can cause water retention, Masteron pulls out excess water, sharpening muscle definition.

End result? You get a drier, harder, and more cut physique
.. without the need for heavy AI use.

3. It Lowers SHBG (Sex Hormone Binding Globulin), Increasing Free Testosterone

SHBG binds to Testosterone, reducing its active effects in the body.

Masteron lowers SHBG, which frees up more testosterone to work in muscle-building and recovery.

This synergizes well with Test, making both compounds work more effectively together.
End result? More free testosterone in circulation = better gains, higher libido, and more energy.


The Aesthetic Effects of Masteron

Hardens Muscles & Reduces Softness

Masteron’s DHT-like effects make muscles feel solid, dense, and dry.

It pulls water from under the skin, which makes veins pop more and muscle striations stand out.

Why Masteron is Better Than Tren for Looksmaxxing


One of the most overlooked looksmaxxing effects of Masteron is how it improves facial structure.

Because it dries you out and removes excess water, your cheekbones and jawline become more defined.

Less subcutaneous fat = sharper, more chiseled features.

Testosterone and Tren can cause puffiness, especially if estrogen isn’t controlled. Masteron eliminates that issue.



The Best Way to Run Masteron for Maximum Aesthetics

If you want the best results from Masteron, here’s how to dose and stack it effectively:

Ideal Dosing

Masteron Propionate → 100mg every other day (300-400mg/week)

Masteron Enanthate → 300-600mg/week (2-3 injections per week)

Best Stacks for Looksmaxxing

Testosterone + Masteron → The gold standard for looking lean, dry, and masculine.
Test + Masteron + Primobolan → A high-end, clean cycle for pure aesthetics.
Test + Masteron + Anavar → The ultimate shredded, Greek statue look.









tldr – Why Masteron is King

DHT-driven compound = Hard, dry, masculine muscle gains

Blocks estrogen naturally = No bloat, no puffiness, no softness

Improves confidence, mental clarity, and focus without making you crazy

Looksmaxxing effects on both muscle and facial aesthetics

Pairs perfectly with Testosterone for an optimized, high-androgen physique


If you want to actually look better, not just get bigger, Masteron is one of the best steroids for aesthetics.



Warning if you have hairloss gene. You will lose hair much much faster. This is ideally for people who have resistant hair loss or very slow like me for example. If your already blading. You will accelerate to 3 norwoods at the end. Unless your hairloss stack is on point. Don't use dht stacks.
Stupid advice from most likely a steroids noob. One of the most overrated drugs. Killed for hair loss so you should frankly just use tren and gain 3x the benefits to phyisique if ur will to run the hairloos risk.

Wtf do you want to block estrogen? one of the biggest killers of these 90s era bbers is constant ai use. estrogen is incredible important for health. U will have no estro effects on tren either unless ur test dose is high.

For users that actually have a pair of balls u use tren and anadrol together with test. Those two drugs have an insane synergy known among all top pros and all ped experts in the field and will cause you to literally mutate (not talking to pro bber levels which requires hgh and insulin).

Yo cant run masteron year round so run tren get way more benefits then drop to 250mg test and cruise.
 
Stupid advice from most likely a steroids noob. One of the most overrated drugs. Killed for hair loss so you should frankly just use tren and gain 3x the benefits to phyisique if ur will to run the hairloos risk.

Wtf do you want to block estrogen? one of the biggest killers of these 90s era bbers is constant ai use. estrogen is incredible important for health. U will have no estro effects on tren either unless ur test dose is high.

For users that actually have a pair of balls u use tren and anadrol together with test. Those two drugs have an insane synergy known among all top pros and all ped experts in the field and will cause you to literally mutate (not talking to pro bber levels which requires hgh and insulin).

Yo cant run masteron year round so run tren get way more benefits then drop to 250mg test and cruise.
Unlike you I have been on "steroids" for years. Don't talk about anything. Your talking to a guy who knows 10x the amount of shit most here. I'd yap about my homebrew knowledge too but trying to keep that under wraps. Tren is not the drug its cut out to be. I've ran it. It's not that great. And I Homebrew my shit. I hope no graycel actually listens to you.
 
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Masteron (Drostanolone) is a DHT-derived anabolic steroid that works differently from other compounds like Testosterone or Trenbolone. It’s known for hardening muscles, enhancing vascularity, improving confidence, and drying out the physique without causing excessive water retention or estrogen-related side effects.

Unlike Tren, which is powerful but unpredictable, and toxic..... Masteron delivers steady, aesthetic-focused results without wrecking your mental state.


How Masteron Works in the Body

Masteron primarily works through three key mechanisms:

1. It Binds Strongly to Androgen Receptors (AR)

Masteron is a highly androgenic compound, meaning it directly activates androgen receptors in muscle tissue and fat cells.

More AR activation = better fat burning and harder, denser muscles.

Since DHT itself is 3-5x more androgenic than testosterone, Masteron gives a more masculine, dry, and cut look compared to other steroids.


2. It Blocks Estrogen & Reduces Water Retention

Masteron acts as a mild aromatase inhibitor (AI), meaning it lowers estrogen levels slightly.

This makes it great for preventing bloating, puffiness, and soft muscle appearance.

Unlike Testosterone, which can cause water retention, Masteron pulls out excess water, sharpening muscle definition.

End result? You get a drier, harder, and more cut physique
.. without the need for heavy AI use.

3. It Lowers SHBG (Sex Hormone Binding Globulin), Increasing Free Testosterone

SHBG binds to Testosterone, reducing its active effects in the body.

Masteron lowers SHBG, which frees up more testosterone to work in muscle-building and recovery.

This synergizes well with Test, making both compounds work more effectively together.
End result? More free testosterone in circulation = better gains, higher libido, and more energy.


The Aesthetic Effects of Masteron

Hardens Muscles & Reduces Softness

Masteron’s DHT-like effects make muscles feel solid, dense, and dry.

It pulls water from under the skin, which makes veins pop more and muscle striations stand out.

Why Masteron is Better Than Tren for Looksmaxxing


One of the most overlooked looksmaxxing effects of Masteron is how it improves facial structure.

Because it dries you out and removes excess water, your cheekbones and jawline become more defined.

Less subcutaneous fat = sharper, more chiseled features.

Testosterone and Tren can cause puffiness, especially if estrogen isn’t controlled. Masteron eliminates that issue.



The Best Way to Run Masteron for Maximum Aesthetics

If you want the best results from Masteron, here’s how to dose and stack it effectively:

Ideal Dosing

Masteron Propionate → 100mg every other day (300-400mg/week)

Masteron Enanthate → 300-600mg/week (2-3 injections per week)

Best Stacks for Looksmaxxing

Testosterone + Masteron → The gold standard for looking lean, dry, and masculine.
Test + Masteron + Primobolan → A high-end, clean cycle for pure aesthetics.
Test + Masteron + Anavar → The ultimate shredded, Greek statue look.









tldr – Why Masteron is King

DHT-driven compound = Hard, dry, masculine muscle gains

Blocks estrogen naturally = No bloat, no puffiness, no softness

Improves confidence, mental clarity, and focus without making you crazy

Looksmaxxing effects on both muscle and facial aesthetics

Pairs perfectly with Testosterone for an optimized, high-androgen physique


If you want to actually look better, not just get bigger, Masteron is one of the best steroids for aesthetics.



Warning if you have hairloss gene. You will lose hair much much faster. This is ideally for people who have resistant hair loss or very slow like me for example. If your already blading. You will accelerate to 3 norwoods at the end. Unless your hairloss stack is on point. Don't use dht stacks.
bookmarked will be adding to my stack ❤️❤️
 
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Stupid advice from most likely a steroids noob. One of the most overrated drugs. Killed for hair loss so you should frankly just use tren and gain 3x the benefits to phyisique if ur will to run the hairloos risk.

Wtf do you want to block estrogen? one of the biggest killers of these 90s era bbers is constant ai use. estrogen is incredible important for health. U will have no estro effects on tren either unless ur test dose is high.

For users that actually have a pair of balls u use tren and anadrol together with test. Those two drugs have an insane synergy known among all top pros and all ped experts in the field and will cause you to literally mutate (not talking to pro bber levels which requires hgh and insulin).

Yo cant run masteron year round so run tren get way more benefits then drop to 250mg test and cruise.
I'm well aware that estrogen should not be blocked for anti-aging and heart health. I've been a proponent of avoiding AI use for a long time, and every time I bring it up, people call me a dumbass. But we all know there are estrogen receptors in the heart and veins.

All I'm saying is that Masteron acts as a mild estrogen inhibitor. If your estrogen is already too high, it wouldn’t hurt to have a compound that competes for the receptors. It’s not a bad choice.

It’s similar to Primobolan—which is also known for its mild estrogen-inhibiting effects. Primo is one of the safest steroids you can use, but it’s expensive and often faked.


The key difference with Mastron is it's a temporary inhibitor, unlike the suicidal inhibitors people love to abuse. I much rather take a DHT derivative than take a toxic AI. To be more specific, it's not even in the inhibitor. It just competes for the receptors. It's almost like it bullies the estrogen from not touching your nipples. Whereas an AI will literally Crush your systematic estrogen levels.
 
have you looked into using top fin/dut with an androgenic cycle?
ik if its oral it nukes dht lmao so dont confuse me with a retard
i saw a post here idk when but it was talking about its localized effect
where it only nukes dht on the aareas it is applied

do you know anything about that mr forum legend? thx
some of it goes systemic and would cause issues with certain drugs
Unlike you I have been on "steroids" for years. Don't talk about anything. Your talking to a guy who knows 10x the amount of shit most here. I'd yap about my homebrew knowledge too but trying to keep that under wraps. Tren is not the drug its cut out to be. I've ran it. It's not that great. And I Homebrew my shit. I hope no graycel actually listens to you.
Lol ive been on for 10. Lol tren not that great? how about watch this bunch of guys that have competed and coached ifbb pros see where they rank tren in the drugs list: .

U have a shit source for your raw powder then or you cant homebrew properly and are destroying the compund if your tren wasnt doing anything good.

U recommended 'greycels' to try a drug in masterone that does nothing for gains, gives a short term cosmetic effect when on and nukers hair. Compared to tren that actually helps pack on muscle tissue, is also bad for hair, and gives a better cosmetic effect then masterone at low bf percents. Pick your poison id pick the one that gives me benefits long term.

PS I have never told anybody to do tren first cycle. You new inwave of idiots recommending masteron when it offers nothing but a short term aesthetic improvement while on while destroying your hair and doing nothing for you long term are braindead.
 
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some of it goes systemic and would cause issues with certain drugs

Lol ive been on for 10. Lol tren not that great? how about watch this bunch of guys that have competed and coached ifbb pros see where they rank tren in the drugs list: .

U have a shit source for your raw powder then or you cant homebrew properly and are destroying the compund if your tren wasnt doing anything good.

U recommended 'greycels' to try a drug in masterone that does nothing for gains, gives a short term cosmetic effect when on and nukers hair. Compared to tren that actually helps pack on muscle tissue, is also bad for hair, and gives a better cosmetic effect then masterone at low bf percents. Pick your poison id pick the one that gives me benefits long term.

PS I have never told anybody to do tren first cycle. You new inwave of idiots recommending masteron when it offers nothing but a short term aesthetic improvement while on while destroying your hair and doing nothing for you long term are braindead.

If you actually knew what you were talking about, I’d take you seriously... but you don’t. You’re making a lot of assumptions right now, which just shows how Dunning-Kruger runs rampant in these communities.

I already watch Steve, and the reality is that everyone reacts differently to each drug. There’s no universal steroid that affects everyone the same way.

I have my raws tested extensively. It’s expensive, but the peace of mind is worth it. My Tren comes out crystal clear... rare for Tren to be this pure 🤓, but that’s just because I actually understand how to cook. Did you know dark Tren is just oxidized Tren? Imagine being an old head or a newbie, buying degraded Tren, thinking they found a good source, meanwhile, they overcooked it and ruined its potency.

Still, not the drug I’d use if I wanted to look insane.

DM me for photos.. Not sharing them on this site.

Anyway, let me give you a little schooling. Stay tuned, gathering my sources.
 
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some of it goes systemic and would cause issues with certain drugs

Lol ive been on for 10. Lol tren not that great? how about watch this bunch of guys that have competed and coached ifbb pros see where they rank tren in the drugs list: .

U have a shit source for your raw powder then or you cant homebrew properly and are destroying the compund if your tren wasnt doing anything good.

U recommended 'greycels' to try a drug in masterone that does nothing for gains, gives a short term cosmetic effect when on and nukers hair. Compared to tren that actually helps pack on muscle tissue, is also bad for hair, and gives a better cosmetic effect then masterone at low bf percents. Pick your poison id pick the one that gives me benefits long term.

PS I have never told anybody to do tren first cycle. You new inwave of idiots recommending masteron when it offers nothing but a short term aesthetic improvement while on while destroying your hair and doing nothing for you long term are braindead.


First off, I don’t just throw compounds together like some of these guys who think “more = better.” I actually think long-term, which is why I run Testosterone Undecanoate (Test U) as my base TRT instead of constantly pinning Test C or E. Here’s why that matters:

Why Test Undecanoate is the Smartest Long-Term TRT Choice

Massively longer half-life (~33-34 days) vs. Test C (7-8 days) and Test E (5-6 days). That means stable blood levels, less aromatization, and fewer hormonal swings (J Clin Endocrinol Metab, 2015).

Way less hematocrit increase than shorter esters (Eur J Endocrinol, 2018). High hematocrit is one of the biggest risks for TRT users, especially if they’re running high androgens.

Reduces estrogen volatility – One of the biggest issues with standard TRT is that your E2 spikes after every injection, then crashes. With Test U, it’s stable, so you don’t have crazy highs and lows that wreck your mood, libido, and energy (J Steroid Biochem Mol Biol, 2021).


if you actually knew what you were talking about, I’d take you seriously, but you’re making way too many assumptions right now. The reality is, steroids aren’t one-size-fits-all. What works for one guy might be trash for another, and that’s the part you don’t seem to get.

Let’s talk about Tren real quick since you think it’s the end-all-be-all. Tren is powerful, no doubt. It’s one of the most anabolic compounds out there, but that doesn’t mean it’s the best for aesthetics or sustainability. Just because it “packs on muscle” doesn’t mean it’s ideal for everyone... and for me, it’s nowhere near as effective as Masteron for the look I’m going for.

Let’s break it down:

1. Trenbolone

Tren does build size, but at a cost.

It wrecks sleep (Journal of Applied Physiology, 2021).

Skyrockets prolactin, which leads to mood swings and possible gyno (J Steroid Biochem, 2020).

DHT-based steroids like Masteron work better for pure aesthetics because they don’t mess with prolactin or stress hormones.



2. Masteron

Sharpens muscle definition, dries out the physique, enhances vascularity. (Handbook of Experimental Pharmacology, 2010).

Mildly lowers estrogen without crushing it, which helps with that clean, tight look.

Less neurotoxic than Tren, which means it doesn’t fry your mood or recovery.




Now, I know what you’re thinking“But Tren does all that AND builds muscle!” Sure, but at what cost? The side effects outweigh the benefits if your goal is aesthetic enhancement, not just mass. Tren ages you fast, raises cortisol, nukes your cardiovascular health (Journal of Endocrinology, 2019), and absolutely destroys sleep quality—which is critical for muscle retention and fat loss.

Meanwhile, Masteron enhances the look without turning you into an insomniac with heart palpitations.

You Mentioned Raws.. Let’s Talk About That....

My raws are tested extensively. I pay extra to make sure my stuff is legit. Dark Tren? That’s oxidized Tren. It’s literally degraded. Most people don’t even realize they’re injecting cooked trash and wonder why they’re not getting results (Biochem Pharmacol, 2022).

Now, I know you’re not about to admit you’re wrong, so let me just say this.. you don’t have to agree with me, but at least understand that not everyone reacts to compounds the same way. That’s why there are entire studies on individual response variability to androgens (European Journal of Endocrinology, 2018).

If Tren works for you, great. But calling Masteron shit just proves you haven’t really experimented or paid attention to how different steroids work for different people.

Bottom line:

If you want size at all costs, go for Tren.

If you want a refined, sharp, chiseled look with fewer side effects, Masteron is the move.

Not everyone is built for high-tren cycles.... and pretending like it’s the best for everyone is just ignorant.

You can do what you want, but I’ve been in this game long enough to know what actually works long-term vs. what burns you out. Keep that in mind before you start preaching that one compound is better for everyone.... hormones don’t work like that, bro.



Let me know when you’re ready to actually discuss this instead of just repeating the same gym bro nonsense.
 
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Im happy for you then, sounds like you'll be fine. But recommending it to people who are clueless it will just looksmin them. I pin GHK-cu daily, have ran low dose accutane, used tret, NAC, etc.
Bet you didn't know ghk cu pin daily actually causes inflammation in the liver and if you don't filter your ghk through a syringe filter your likely building up that inflammation load. Peptides are great but latest studies and science on its long term effrct are finally coming around. I recommend you look up ghost on meso RX who loves to share his findings on this subject. I use ghk too. But when you mix a batch. Just be aware it will expire pretty quickly ( more inflammation load) liver failure risk later on. This might go over your head. So just go to meso and stalk this guy called ghost. He's extremely smart and loves to drop his research on the matter.
 
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have you looked into using top fin/dut with an androgenic cycle?
ik if its oral it nukes dht lmao so dont confuse me with a retard
i saw a post here idk when but it was talking about its localized effect
where it only nukes dht on the aareas it is applied

do you know anything about that mr forum legend? thx
If I was to use anything for dht on scalp. I'd block local effects not in the whole body. I'd prefer a topical formulation. We have dht in the body for a reason and it's what separates women for men. Focus on topical dut even if some goes systematic it's much less than if you used it orally. Ru 58841 is a nice option not enough long term research for its effects but it works. Topical fin can work but its weaker binding affinity for scalp dht.

I hope zero grey cels actually avoid dht and instead utilize its beneficial effects. If they don't want hairloss they should focus on topical dht inhibiting and if they can't afford that. They shouldnt use steroids at all.
 
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some of it goes systemic and would cause issues with certain drugs

Lol ive been on for 10. Lol tren not that great? how about watch this bunch of guys that have competed and coached ifbb pros see where they rank tren in the drugs list: .

U have a shit source for your raw powder then or you cant homebrew properly and are destroying the compund if your tren wasnt doing anything good.

U recommended 'greycels' to try a drug in masterone that does nothing for gains, gives a short term cosmetic effect when on and nukers hair. Compared to tren that actually helps pack on muscle tissue, is also bad for hair, and gives a better cosmetic effect then masterone at low bf percents. Pick your poison id pick the one that gives me benefits long term.

PS I have never told anybody to do tren first cycle. You new inwave of idiots recommending masteron when it offers nothing but a short term aesthetic improvement while on while destroying your hair and doing nothing for you long term are braindead.

Just wanna add tren did do me good. In fact it made me massive. I just learned the hard way tren is shit for all health markers.
 
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Do some blood work and if you are already on stuff or using trt. Figure out if you convert T to dht already. If not. Your shgb might be too high. You will find out of you are sensitive to dht already if you have lots of body hair and facial hair. A little dht is not a bad thing it's when your prone to hairloss gentically or have hyper sensitivity to even a little dht that you must utilize dht blockers. I'd always prioritize topical dht blockers if I was losing hair. Then do oral if that isn't working.. Nuking dht is the last resort and works!
 
Bet you didn't know ghk cu pin daily actually causes inflammation in the liver and if you don't filter your ghk through a syringe filter your likely building up that inflammation load. Peptides are great but latest studies and science on its long term effrct are finally coming around. I recommend you look up ghost on meso RX who loves to share his findings on this subject. I use ghk too. But when you mix a batch. Just be aware it will expire pretty quickly ( more inflammation load) liver failure risk later on. This might go over your head. So just go to meso and stalk this guy called ghost. He's extremely smart and loves to drop his research on the matter.
There’s someone in here who’s been using GHK for years, I also get bloods done and my liver enzymes are better then a natty and that was when I was on 10mg accutane, Anavar, and GHK 5mg daily
 
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There’s someone in here who’s been using GHK for years, I also get bloods done and my liver enzymes are better then a natty and that was when I was on 10mg accutane, Anavar, and GHK 5mg daily
GHK works. Not saying it doesn't I got 5 years supply now. I got a cryo freezer that goes down to - 40 and is the method to store all peptides for long term storage
 
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GHK works. Not saying it doesn't I got 5 years supply now. I got a cryo freezer that goes down to - 40 and is the method to store all peptides for long term storage
Mirin. Just figured I’d give my perspective but I always appreciate people like you who actually make informative post on this site. I follow u on insta and you have some dope stacks especially your homemade cream with tret raws.
 
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First off, I don’t just throw compounds together like some of these guys who think “more = better.” I actually think long-term, which is why I run Testosterone Undecanoate (Test U) as my base TRT instead of constantly pinning Test C or E. Here’s why that matters:

Why Test Undecanoate is the Smartest Long-Term TRT Choice

Massively longer half-life (~33-34 days) vs. Test C (7-8 days) and Test E (5-6 days). That means stable blood levels, less aromatization, and fewer hormonal swings (J Clin Endocrinol Metab, 2015).

Way less hematocrit increase than shorter esters (Eur J Endocrinol, 2018). High hematocrit is one of the biggest risks for TRT users, especially if they’re running high androgens.

Reduces estrogen volatility – One of the biggest issues with standard TRT is that your E2 spikes after every injection, then crashes. With Test U, it’s stable, so you don’t have crazy highs and lows that wreck your mood, libido, and energy (J Steroid Biochem Mol Biol, 2021).


if you actually knew what you were talking about, I’d take you seriously, but you’re making way too many assumptions right now. The reality is, steroids aren’t one-size-fits-all. What works for one guy might be trash for another, and that’s the part you don’t seem to get.

Let’s talk about Tren real quick since you think it’s the end-all-be-all. Tren is powerful, no doubt. It’s one of the most anabolic compounds out there, but that doesn’t mean it’s the best for aesthetics or sustainability. Just because it “packs on muscle” doesn’t mean it’s ideal for everyone... and for me, it’s nowhere near as effective as Masteron for the look I’m going for.

Let’s break it down:

1. Trenbolone

Tren does build size, but at a cost.

It wrecks sleep (Journal of Applied Physiology, 2021).

Skyrockets prolactin, which leads to mood swings and possible gyno (J Steroid Biochem, 2020).

DHT-based steroids like Masteron work better for pure aesthetics because they don’t mess with prolactin or stress hormones.



2. Masteron

Sharpens muscle definition, dries out the physique, enhances vascularity. (Handbook of Experimental Pharmacology, 2010).

Mildly lowers estrogen without crushing it, which helps with that clean, tight look.

Less neurotoxic than Tren, which means it doesn’t fry your mood or recovery.




Now, I know what you’re thinking“But Tren does all that AND builds muscle!” Sure, but at what cost? The side effects outweigh the benefits if your goal is aesthetic enhancement, not just mass. Tren ages you fast, raises cortisol, nukes your cardiovascular health (Journal of Endocrinology, 2019), and absolutely destroys sleep quality—which is critical for muscle retention and fat loss.

Meanwhile, Masteron enhances the look without turning you into an insomniac with heart palpitations.

You Mentioned Raws.. Let’s Talk About That....

My raws are tested extensively. I pay extra to make sure my stuff is legit. Dark Tren? That’s oxidized Tren. It’s literally degraded. Most people don’t even realize they’re injecting cooked trash and wonder why they’re not getting results (Biochem Pharmacol, 2022).

Now, I know you’re not about to admit you’re wrong, so let me just say this.. you don’t have to agree with me, but at least understand that not everyone reacts to compounds the same way. That’s why there are entire studies on individual response variability to androgens (European Journal of Endocrinology, 2018).

If Tren works for you, great. But calling Masteron shit just proves you haven’t really experimented or paid attention to how different steroids work for different people.

Bottom line:

If you want size at all costs, go for Tren.

If you want a refined, sharp, chiseled look with fewer side effects, Masteron is the move.

Not everyone is built for high-tren cycles.... and pretending like it’s the best for everyone is just ignorant.

You can do what you want, but I’ve been in this game long enough to know what actually works long-term vs. what burns you out. Keep that in mind before you start preaching that one compound is better for everyone.... hormones don’t work like that, bro.



Let me know when you’re ready to actually discuss this instead of just repeating the same gym bro nonsense.
When did I say tren is the end and be all. In a young user you can get masximised resultso n tren and then cruise. As opposed to mastering that will pose all the hair loss risks with lack of gains. I never said its the best for everyone. Completely misrepresenting what I said and your masteron advice is fucking horrible in a looksmax forum unless you want to run masteron years round.

Meanwhile I ran my tren got my heavy cycels over at a young age and now maintain all these gains on180mg test with intermittend increases to 300mg and keep perfect blood work.

Keep talking shit about being long in the game its meaningless.

PS u weigh 210 and look natty based on ur insta posts. So wht has all ur use done for u.
 
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Mirin. Just figured I’d give my perspective but I always appreciate people like you who actually make informative post on this site. I follow u on insta and you have some dope stacks especially your homemade cream with tret raws.
How can u look at this guys insta and think hes legit knowledagble on as he looks natty
 
How can u look at this guys insta and think hes legit knowledagble on as he looks natty
I’m not talking about knowledgeable on gear he is good at supplement stacks and skin stuff.
 
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I trust my goat astra sky:soy:


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im guessing the thread is a reply to my thread cause it is referencing what people were saying about tren
 
I'm well aware that estrogen should not be blocked for anti-aging and heart health. I've been a proponent of avoiding AI use for a long time, and every time I bring it up, people call me a dumbass. But we all know there are estrogen receptors in the heart and veins.

All I'm saying is that Masteron acts as a mild estrogen inhibitor. If your estrogen is already too high, it wouldn’t hurt to have a compound that competes for the receptors. It’s not a bad choice.

It’s similar to Primobolan—which is also known for its mild estrogen-inhibiting effects. Primo is one of the safest steroids you can use, but it’s expensive and often faked.


The key difference with Mastron is it's a temporary inhibitor, unlike the suicidal inhibitors people love to abuse. I much rather take a DHT derivative than take a toxic AI. To be more specific, it's not even in the inhibitor. It just competes for the receptors. It's almost like it bullies the estrogen from not touching your nipples. Whereas an AI will literally Crush your systematic estrogen levels.
would masteron also "bully the receptor" to not fuck with growth plates
 
If you actually knew what you were talking about, I’d take you seriously... but you don’t. You’re making a lot of assumptions right now, which just shows how Dunning-Kruger runs rampant in these communities.

I already watch Steve, and the reality is that everyone reacts differently to each drug. There’s no universal steroid that affects everyone the same way.

I have my raws tested extensively. It’s expensive, but the peace of mind is worth it. My Tren comes out crystal clear... rare for Tren to be this pure 🤓, but that’s just because I actually understand how to cook. Did you know dark Tren is just oxidized Tren? Imagine being an old head or a newbie, buying degraded Tren, thinking they found a good source, meanwhile, they overcooked it and ruined its potency.

Still, not the drug I’d use if I wanted to look insane.

DM me for photos.. Not sharing them on this site.

Anyway, let me give you a little schooling. Stay tuned, gathering my sources.
dm me:what:
 
I wanna follow up on this. I am not even gonna lie though. Masteron is probably the best drug in the anabolic world. Everytime I have played around with it I feel amazing. I literally don't use my ADHD medication while taking it cause it enhances my cognition. I feel ultra confident, im super positive about life and all around in a good mood, my skin is way tighter and I have zero bloat, and best of all my erection size is prob like an extra half inch at least its wild. Just thinking about it is tempting me to hop back on.(I have been natty and off test)
 
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I wanna follow up on this. I am not even gonna lie though. Masteron is probably the best drug in the anabolic world. Everytime I have played around with it I feel amazing. I literally don't use my ADHD medication while taking it cause it enhances my cognition. I feel ultra confident, im super positive about life and all around in a good mood, my skin is way tighter and I have zero bloat, and best of all my erection size is prob like an extra half inch at least its wild. Just thinking about it is tempting me to hop back on.(I have been natty and off test)
Same here. EXTREMELY ADHD prone. Mast makes me focus and get shit done
 
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Same here. EXTREMELY ADHD prone. Mast makes me focus and get shit done
I know some people cruise on it or throw it on trt so like 180/200 test and 100 mast.

Not sure how good/safe this is for your body and also looks
 
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I know some people cruise on it or throw it on trt so like 180/200 test and 100 mast.

Not sure how good/safe this is for your body and also looks
It's safe at a low dosage. It's just mild at that point. I know people who run it on their TRT and throw in a little bit of mast. But the safer drug would be primo for that purpose. However, if I was going to use it long term, I would use mast e not p. I will say mast makes tren much more manageable. at least psychologically. It takes the edge off.
 
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would masteron also "bully the receptor" to not fuck with growth plates
Its like... Idk tbh its just not as strong as an ai and it allows you to run higher Test with out feeling bloated. All these talks about youth indicators and hairloss is pure cope when you got a stack like me designed to fight that.
 
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It's safe at a low dosage. It's just mild at that point. I know people who run it on their TRT and throw in a little bit of mast. But the safer drug would be primo for that purpose. However, if I was going to use it long term, I would use mast e not p. I will say mast makes tren much more manageable. at least psychologically. It takes the edge off.
Interesting. I almost wonder if you can dial in a dosage like 200/100 and run it for an extended amount of time not to be a bodybuilder but to reap all the benefits whilst maintaining looks. Like what interests me to use it again is potential dick growth, voice gains, and maybe clavicles but I’m unsure how much DHT is responsible for that. But I think you get my point.
 
I wanna follow up on this. I am not even gonna lie though. Masteron is probably the best drug in the anabolic world. Everytime I have played around with it I feel amazing. I literally don't use my ADHD medication while taking it cause it enhances my cognition. I feel ultra confident, im super positive about life and all around in a good mood, my skin is way tighter and I have zero bloat, and best of all my erection size is prob like an extra half inch at least its wild. Just thinking about it is tempting me to hop back on.(I have been natty and off test)
Could get the same mental benefits on test with a 5R WITHOUT THE HAIR LOSS. Also it is just poor mans primo.

My Logic is you build a big base when younger (and your health is more resilient) using the harsher compounds then cruise on low doses afterwards.

I see no benefit to a dog shit drug like masteron long term (not talking about short term cosmetic benefits). I raw superdrol a far more potent dht derivate and it felt great while on it, mafe some strength gains but i wouldnt recommend to users
Its like... Idk tbh its just not as strong as an ai and it allows you to run higher Test with out feeling bloated. All these talks about youth indicators and hairloss is pure cope when you got a stack like me designed to fight that.
Yes it causes loss for sure. Superdrol also causes loss while at the time of my use I thought I was all clear. After 2 cycles of it then blasting tren years later it becaome obvious i was predisposed to it.


Frankly your extremely argumentative and clearly think masteron is gods gift to steroids even though every pro/serious bodybuilding coach disagrees.
 
Could get the same mental benefits on test with a 5R WITHOUT THE HAIR LOSS. Also it is just poor mans primo.

My Logic is you build a big base when younger (and your health is more resilient) using the harsher compounds then cruise on low doses afterwards.

I see no benefit to a dog shit drug like masteron long term (not talking about short term cosmetic benefits). I raw superdrol a far more potent dht derivate and it felt great while on it, mafe some strength gains but i wouldnt recommend to users

Yes it causes loss for sure. Superdrol also causes loss while at the time of my use I thought I was all clear. After 2 cycles of it then blasting tren years later it becaome obvious i was predisposed to it.


Frankly your extremely argumentative and clearly think masteron is gods gift to steroids even though every pro/serious bodybuilding coach disagrees.
Never lost hair on tren. Used tren many times. Don't pay attention to my insta. I don't post actual updated photos of me. I always post old photos for a reason I can handle dht because I don't have hair loss gene. That's why I like mast. I can enjoy its effects. I can enjoy tren too but I just don't like what Tren does to me psychologically a bit too much. Makes me egitisical and makes me feel like an awful person. mast on the other hand keeps me chill and happy. Arguing with you doesn't feel like an argument this is just fun and it feels nice to debate.

Maybe not everyone is cut out to use dht compounds since majority of men lose hair using it. I've already done a genetics test showing I have resistant hairloss genes.
 
Interesting. I almost wonder if you can dial in a dosage like 200/100 and run it for an extended amount of time not to be a bodybuilder but to reap all the benefits whilst maintaining looks. Like what interests me to use it again is potential dick growth, voice gains, and maybe clavicles but I’m unsure how much DHT is responsible for that. But I think you get my point.

Could get the same mental benefits on test with a 5R WITHOUT THE HAIR LOSS. Also it is just poor mans primo.

My Logic is you build a big base when younger (and your health is more resilient) using the harsher compounds then cruise on low doses afterwards.

I see no benefit to a dog shit drug like masteron long term (not talking about short term cosmetic benefits). I raw superdrol a far more potent dht derivate and it felt great while on it, mafe some strength gains but i wouldnt recommend to users

Yes it causes loss for sure. Superdrol also causes loss while at the time of my use I thought I was all clear. After 2 cycles of it then blasting tren years later it becaome obvious i was predisposed to it.


Frankly your extremely argumentative and clearly think masteron is gods gift to steroids even though every pro/serious bodybuilding coach disagrees.
Obviously the younger you are the safer tren can be. I guess since I'm reaching 30 I'm taking different direction since tren is so risky for the heart in general. But don't just act like tren isn't also unsafe younger. Plenty of dudes died under 25 due to tren abuse and gear use in general
 
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Obviously the younger you are the safer tren can be. I guess since I'm reaching 30 I'm taking different direction since tren is so risky for the heart in general. But don't just act like tren isn't also unsafe younger. Plenty of dudes died under 25 due to tren abuse and gear use in general
I have never been an advocate of using tren to excess like guys I have known who havae used it year round and for multiple years. No healthy guy in his early 20s is ieing from 12 weeks of tren though. Also im 29 now and the risk-reward ratio also makes tren not worth it for me at this point.
 
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Obviously the younger you are the safer tren can be. I guess since I'm reaching 30 I'm taking different direction since tren is so risky for the heart in general. But don't just act like tren isn't also unsafe younger. Plenty of dudes died under 25 due to tren abuse and gear use in general
Our dissagreement comes because I believe you should use the stronger compounds and (relatively) higher doses when your young and less resilient to health sides. You can then maintain this physique on the bare minimum of trt (legit trt not 200mg a week).
 
Masteron (Drostanolone) is a DHT-derived anabolic steroid that works differently from other compounds like Testosterone or Trenbolone. It’s known for hardening muscles, enhancing vascularity, improving confidence, and drying out the physique without causing excessive water retention or estrogen-related side effects.

Unlike Tren, which is powerful but unpredictable, and toxic..... Masteron delivers steady, aesthetic-focused results without wrecking your mental state.


How Masteron Works in the Body

Masteron primarily works through three key mechanisms:

1. It Binds Strongly to Androgen Receptors (AR)

Masteron is a highly androgenic compound, meaning it directly activates androgen receptors in muscle tissue and fat cells.

More AR activation = better fat burning and harder, denser muscles.

Since DHT itself is 3-5x more androgenic than testosterone, Masteron gives a more masculine, dry, and cut look compared to other steroids.


2. It Blocks Estrogen & Reduces Water Retention

Masteron acts as a mild aromatase inhibitor (AI), meaning it lowers estrogen levels slightly.

This makes it great for preventing bloating, puffiness, and soft muscle appearance.

Unlike Testosterone, which can cause water retention, Masteron pulls out excess water, sharpening muscle definition.

End result? You get a drier, harder, and more cut physique
.. without the need for heavy AI use.

3. It Lowers SHBG (Sex Hormone Binding Globulin), Increasing Free Testosterone

SHBG binds to Testosterone, reducing its active effects in the body.

Masteron lowers SHBG, which frees up more testosterone to work in muscle-building and recovery.

This synergizes well with Test, making both compounds work more effectively together.
End result? More free testosterone in circulation = better gains, higher libido, and more energy.


The Aesthetic Effects of Masteron

Hardens Muscles & Reduces Softness

Masteron’s DHT-like effects make muscles feel solid, dense, and dry.

It pulls water from under the skin, which makes veins pop more and muscle striations stand out.

Why Masteron is Better Than Tren for Looksmaxxing


One of the most overlooked looksmaxxing effects of Masteron is how it improves facial structure.

Because it dries you out and removes excess water, your cheekbones and jawline become more defined.

Less subcutaneous fat = sharper, more chiseled features.

Testosterone and Tren can cause puffiness, especially if estrogen isn’t controlled. Masteron eliminates that issue.



The Best Way to Run Masteron for Maximum Aesthetics

If you want the best results from Masteron, here’s how to dose and stack it effectively:

Ideal Dosing

Masteron Propionate → 100mg every other day (300-400mg/week)

Masteron Enanthate → 300-600mg/week (2-3 injections per week)

Best Stacks for Looksmaxxing

Testosterone + Masteron → The gold standard for looking lean, dry, and masculine.
Test + Masteron + Primobolan → A high-end, clean cycle for pure aesthetics.
Test + Masteron + Anavar → The ultimate shredded, Greek statue look.









tldr – Why Masteron is King

DHT-driven compound = Hard, dry, masculine muscle gains

Blocks estrogen naturally = No bloat, no puffiness, no softness

Improves confidence, mental clarity, and focus without making you crazy

Looksmaxxing effects on both muscle and facial aesthetics

Pairs perfectly with Testosterone for an optimized, high-androgen physique


If you want to actually look better, not just get bigger, Masteron is one of the best steroids for aesthetics.



Warning if you have hairloss gene. You will lose hair much much faster. This is ideally for people who have resistant hair loss or very slow like me for example. If your already blading. You will accelerate to 3 norwoods at the end. Unless your hairloss stack is on point. Don't use dht stacks.
testosterone
 
@AstroSky do you think mast e is worth it ran at 100mg a week. I’m focused on longevity but still tryna reap the benefits of anabolics. Currently on 300mg of test e and looking to switch to a test u mast trt stack.
 
Deca is actually better if you know shit abt progesterone and its effects and deca is way stronger binder. @halloweed @meathead
 
Bet you didn't know ghk cu pin daily actually causes inflammation in the liver and if you don't filter your ghk through a syringe filter your likely building up that inflammation load. Peptides are great but latest studies and science on its long term effrct are finally coming around. I recommend you look up ghost on meso RX who loves to share his findings on this subject. I use ghk too. But when you mix a batch. Just be aware it will expire pretty quickly ( more inflammation load) liver failure risk later on. This might go over your head. So just go to meso and stalk this guy called ghost. He's extremely smart and loves to drop his research on the matter.
Ghost or ghoul?
 
Mast
First off, I don’t just throw compounds together like some of these guys who think “more = better.” I actually think long-term, which is why I run Testosterone Undecanoate (Test U) as my base TRT instead of constantly pinning Test C or E. Here’s why that matters:

Why Test Undecanoate is the Smartest Long-Term TRT Choice

Massively longer half-life (~33-34 days) vs. Test C (7-8 days) and Test E (5-6 days). That means stable blood levels, less aromatization, and fewer hormonal swings (J Clin Endocrinol Metab, 2015).

Way less hematocrit increase than shorter esters (Eur J Endocrinol, 2018). High hematocrit is one of the biggest risks for TRT users, especially if they’re running high androgens.

Reduces estrogen volatility – One of the biggest issues with standard TRT is that your E2 spikes after every injection, then crashes. With Test U, it’s stable, so you don’t have crazy highs and lows that wreck your mood, libido, and energy (J Steroid Biochem Mol Biol, 2021).


if you actually knew what you were talking about, I’d take you seriously, but you’re making way too many assumptions right now. The reality is, steroids aren’t one-size-fits-all. What works for one guy might be trash for another, and that’s the part you don’t seem to get.

Let’s talk about Tren real quick since you think it’s the end-all-be-all. Tren is powerful, no doubt. It’s one of the most anabolic compounds out there, but that doesn’t mean it’s the best for aesthetics or sustainability. Just because it “packs on muscle” doesn’t mean it’s ideal for everyone... and for me, it’s nowhere near as effective as Masteron for the look I’m going for.

Let’s break it down:

1. Trenbolone

Tren does build size, but at a cost.

It wrecks sleep (Journal of Applied Physiology, 2021).

Skyrockets prolactin, which leads to mood swings and possible gyno (J Steroid Biochem, 2020).

DHT-based steroids like Masteron work better for pure aesthetics because they don’t mess with prolactin or stress hormones.



2. Masteron

Sharpens muscle definition, dries out the physique, enhances vascularity. (Handbook of Experimental Pharmacology, 2010).

Mildly lowers estrogen without crushing it, which helps with that clean, tight look.

Less neurotoxic than Tren, which means it doesn’t fry your mood or recovery.




Now, I know what you’re thinking“But Tren does all that AND builds muscle!” Sure, but at what cost? The side effects outweigh the benefits if your goal is aesthetic enhancement, not just mass. Tren ages you fast, raises cortisol, nukes your cardiovascular health (Journal of Endocrinology, 2019), and absolutely destroys sleep quality—which is critical for muscle retention and fat loss.

Meanwhile, Masteron enhances the look without turning you into an insomniac with heart palpitations.

You Mentioned Raws.. Let’s Talk About That....

My raws are tested extensively. I pay extra to make sure my stuff is legit. Dark Tren? That’s oxidized Tren. It’s literally degraded. Most people don’t even realize they’re injecting cooked trash and wonder why they’re not getting results (Biochem Pharmacol, 2022).

Now, I know you’re not about to admit you’re wrong, so let me just say this.. you don’t have to agree with me, but at least understand that not everyone reacts to compounds the same way. That’s why there are entire studies on individual response variability to androgens (European Journal of Endocrinology, 2018).

If Tren works for you, great. But calling Masteron shit just proves you haven’t really experimented or paid attention to how different steroids work for different people.

Bottom line:

If you want size at all costs, go for Tren.

If you want a refined, sharp, chiseled look with fewer side effects, Masteron is the move.

Not everyone is built for high-tren cycles.... and pretending like it’s the best for everyone is just ignorant.

You can do what you want, but I’ve been in this game long enough to know what actually works long-term vs. what burns you out. Keep that in mind before you start preaching that one compound is better for everyone.... hormones don’t work like that, bro.



Let me know when you’re ready to actually discuss this instead of just repeating the same gym bro nonsen
DHT is stigmatised a lot. In fact it’s not even the route cause of hair loss.
 
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