the only correct response to the problem of evil

[LefortCandidate]

god does what god wants. simple as that

 

[Tenres]

The problem of evil isn't an argument against God's existence, but the formulation of God as both being all powerful and being the causal beginning of the universe and everything in it, and also being omnibenevolent. I don't think all religions necessarily affirm that God is all loving or all just, though.

 

[moongazer]

god does what god wants. simple as that

Kill evil foids

 

[LefortCandidate]

The problem of evil isn't an argument against God's existence, but the formulation of God as both being all powerful and being the causal beginning of the universe and everything in it, and also being omnibenevolent. I don't think all religions necessarily affirm that God is all loving or all just, though.

god decides whats is good and what is not, he has infinite iq not humans so saying oh it contradicts him being all good as if good isn't decided by him

 

[Elf]

god does what god wants. simple as that

Not on my watch. @lowtiersubhuman right ?

 

[tomahawk]

The problem of evil isn't an argument against God's existence, but the formulation of God as both being all powerful and being the causal beginning of the universe and everything in it, and also being omnibenevolent. I don't think all religions necessarily affirm that God is all loving or all just, though.

Kind of agree

 

[LXR]

god decides whats is good and what is not, he has infinite iq not humans so saying oh it contradicts him being all good as if good isn't decided by him

So according to your God, a Palestinian infant getting bombed is not evil

 

[Tenres]

god decides whats is good and what is not, he has infinite iq not humans so saying oh it contradicts him being all good as if good isn't decided by him

Is God's morality arbitrary though?

 

[LefortCandidate]

So according to your God, a Palestinian infant getting bombed is not evil

allowing evil is not evil thats my point, god can grat him paradise

 

[LXR]

allowing evil is not evil thats my point, god can grat him paradise

Thats a theodicy, those type of arguments are just justifications for why evil exists and I can stretch that argument all the way to the point that God is not benevolent, hence Christianity and Islam are false religions

 

[LefortCandidate]

Is God's morality arbitrary though?

its his nature, neither arbitrary or a standard outside of him, god is good

 

[Tenres]

If God can decide what's good, he can decide for anything to be good. Making it a vacuous concept. In which case no religious person can appeal to an objective morality because it inherently depends upon the subjective whims of God (a conscious agent).

 

[StyIix]

god does what god wants. simple as that

Chad does what chad wants

 

[LefortCandidate]

Thats a theodicy, those type of arguments are just justifications for why evil exists and I can stretch that argument all the way to the point that God is not benevolent, hence Christianity and Islam are false religions

i just told you buddy, god decides whats good and kind and all other shit you feel me

 

[LXR]

i just told you buddy, god decides whats good and kind and all other shit you feel me

So you agree with me that bombing Palestinians is not evil, thats what your God has decided. You agree that your God has decided that bombing Palestinian infants or killing children in earthquakes is fine

 

[LefortCandidate]

If God can decide what's good, he can decide for anything to be good. Making it a vacuous concept. In which case no religious person can appeal to an objective morality because it inherently depends upon the subjective whims of God (a conscious agent).

nah g thats a straw man i know the uethiphro problem, its neither arbitrary or something outside of him, simply good is god's nature just like a there isn't a square circle

 

[GonorrhoeaGobbler]

So according to your God, a Palestinian infant getting bombed is not evil

no, destruction and inequality is the order of this world

 

[LefortCandidate]

So you agree with me that bombing Palestinians is not evil, thats what your God has decided. You agree that your God has decided that bombing Palestinian infants or killing children in earthquakes is fine

killing kids is bad through gods standars but also him allowing it isn't evil type shit

 

[Tenres]

its his nature, neither arbitrary or a standard outside of him, god is good

You're contradicting yourself a bit regardless. But if it's God's nature to be good and that is unchanging then either God is either limited in some other way, or caused unimaginable suffering and pain onto people which his nature seems as good.

So from our perspective, if our suffering is deemed as good, then his morality is completely foreign and should have no persuasive value upon us.

 

[LXR]

no destruction and inequality is the order of this world

So you agree that suffering is morally good

 

[LXR]

killing kids is bad through gods standars but also him allowing it isn't evil type shit

Thats a contradiction right there. If God is omnipotent and benevolent then he wouldnt allow killing of children. Omnipotence allows God to create a world where his standards are strictly followed

 

[Incelforeever]

i just told you buddy, god decides whats good and kind and all other shit you feel me

Are u talking about the biblical God?

 

[ZyzzReincarnate]

God*

This is my father btw

 

[LefortCandidate]

You're contradicting yourself a bit regardless. But if it's God's nature to be good and that is unchanging then either God is either limited in some other way, or caused unimaginable suffering and pain onto people which his nature seems as good.

So from our perspective, if our suffering is deemed as good, then his morality is completely foreign and should have no persuasive value upon us.

nah bud infinite wisdom is part of his nature too don't forget he can allow evil as much as he want

 

[GonorrhoeaGobbler]

So you agree that suffering is morally good

I don't really have strong values,
if we were in a perfect utopia devoid of human suffering we whould perpesly create caos and suffering to entertain us and this whould be morally correct imo

 

[Tenres]

nah g thats a straw man i know the uethiphro problem, its neither arbitrary or something outside of him, simply good is god's nature just like a there isn't a square circle

Yeah this is the argument made by theologians. But you saying God chooses what is good contradicts that. But this is the most viable argument.

 

[GonorrhoeaGobbler]

God*

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This is my father btw

actual god

 

[Tenres]

I don't really have strong values,
if we were in a perfect utopia devoid of human suffering we whould perpesly create caos and suffering to entertain us and this whould be morally correct imo

God caused our nature, plus heaven exists with people and full free will yet there is no suffering. So it can be actualized from the religious perspective at least.

 

[LefortCandidate]

Yeah this is the argument made by theologians. But you saying God chooses what is good contradicts that. But this is the most viable argument.

yeah my choice of words isn't good but you get the message

 

[LXR]

I don't really have strong values,
if we were in a perfect utopia devoid of human suffering we whould perpesly create caos and suffering to entertain us and this whould be morally correct imo

The Problem of Evil, its evidential version is specifically targeted towards monotheistic beliefs because they are very strict in the qualities that an entity like God would possess

 

[ZyzzReincarnate]

actual god

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Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

Galatians 6:7

 

[GonorrhoeaGobbler]

God caused our nature, plus heaven exists with people and full free will yet there is no suffering. So it can be actualized from the religious perspective at least.

yeah seems weird that god redeemed this world by the death of Jesus, the goal of religion isn't to ascend to paradise bc earth the equal to paradise

yet our world seems to flawed next too heaven,
I'm having trouble with uderstanding how heaven works, if you can do wathever you want can't you do "evil", what are the consequences ? are there laws then it whouldn't be different to earth

 

[Tenres]

yeah seems weird that god redeemed this world by the death of Jesus, the goal of religion isn't to ascend to paradise bc earth the equal to paradise

yet our world seems to flawed next too heaven,
I'm having trouble with uderstanding how heaven works, if you can do wathever you want can't you do "evil", what are the consequences ? are there laws then it whouldn't be different to earth

I'm not a theologian but I'd assume the idea is that Heaven is so ascendent, so amazing and pure, that the desire to do evil wouldn't exist. But of course that could exist on Earth, even if he needed a reference then he could give us that without experiencing the suffering.

 

[Clqs]

 

[nsk4ll]

god does what god wants. simple as that

god is sadist

 

[lowtiersubhuman]

Not on my watch. @lowtiersubhuman right ?

What do you mean? I also don't belive in god