Yeah I mean both you and him are right, I would say frame is 90% muscle and weight tho, after I gained 5kg my frame gained 2.6 cm, which seems like nothing but if u put in perspective that u can put on 15 kg with steroids thats well above 7 cm which is a big difference
his clavs clearly grew... that statement is retarded tbh
You’re literally 14. Stop comparing yourself to a 35 year old man. You would have had that increase regardless.
You cant expect people to have a brain, you will just stress yourself out unc
Im 16 in a month.
No shit sherlock.
just because I think differently from you doesn't make someone retarded yet another retarded statement by you, get your brain checked out tbh faggot
true, his frame did infact change, just not the way you see it changed, muscle mass is what changed it most, but there is/was still bone growth, @chadbeingmade is clearly retarded if he's claiming "nothing" at all in his frame changed
This is youjust because I think differently from you doesn't make someone retarded yet another retarded statement by you, get your brain checked out tbh faggot
CBM is correct, the process of bone growth is very complex and not as easy as you may think, I would say the only thing that changed was muscle mass and the fact that the deltoids have higher androgen receptors therefore they are more prone to being bigger with the usage of androgenic steroids. Thats why most nattys struggle having a very wide frame.true, his frame did infact change, just not the way you see it changed, muscle mass is what changed it most, but there is/was still bone growth, @chadbeingmade is clearly retarded if he's claiming "nothing" at all in his frame changed
clearly isn't because like you said "there is no thinking involved" keep ruling out what people say instead of taking it into consideration faggot, like I just said 2 times, yet another retarded statement proving nothing
Don’t forget I know how much you are coping.true, his frame did infact change, just not the way you see it changed, muscle mass is what changed it most, but there is/was still bone growth, @chadbeingmade is clearly retarded if he's claiming "nothing" at all in his frame changed
Nigga what the fuck, are u high I just stated that your argument was correct and that their way of thinking wasnt right.
was literally talking to the other guy
Alright its cause u quoted my post and said you, my bad then
alright then fuck you, next time we have a debate, i'll be sure to prove you wrong
It looks exactly like fillers. No way roids do that.
I doubt it’s delayed puberty. Ramus length correlation to masseter size may have some merit to it:
I’m almost 100% sure it is masseter.
It’s literally a muscle.
So why roid when i can lift natty for a year or two and cut down and have a alright physique?
Yes that’s the image I was thinking of
It looks completely fake, he got that giga chad jaw.
I have no idea if his ramus actually changed. His masseter did for sure. Jaw is the only thing that is susceptible to some possible change in a possibly aesthetic manor.
I believe both upper and lower jaw are greatly influenced by chewing and correct position. For example a crossbite or any other form of malocclusion almost always leads to some recession.
This mostly applies to early childhood of course. The older you grow the kess it will do for you. Just turn back time bro
roidcels should get botox in thier masseters to restore harmony of the face
have come back after reading a few studies
And also what about things like mk, cjc and things that wire your brain to produce higher hormones naturally? Would that work if used for prolonged periods?? Or would that also give you acrogomaly if also used for too long/high doses??? Because your body makes use of natural hormones in terms of bone remodeling, not just bone growth?? So wouldn’t that mean that it could work? (Just my thoughts, I want to just clear everything that’s right or wrong before I proceed reading more studies.
I think that the correlation is mainly a bigger ramus allows more muscle so the muscle is normally bigger , would you agree? Maybe that guys jaw just grew as it was supposed to
why would your masseters return to baseline once you're done roiding?
i think that more developed masseters would ascend me a lot, i have a recessed chin so the only way it looks like i have hollow cheeks is when i’m clenching and my masseters are larger, and when clenching my face in general just looks better
