The only people I know IRL that do well with women.

[MoggerGaston]

Are Chadlite+ tier in looks.

I see even HTNs struggling hard and scraping by on dumpster-diving.

JFL at dating honestly. just forget about women unless ur chad - theory.

 

[Deleted member 16371]

Sex is overrated. Looks are most important. In 10 20 30 40 years Im gonna need to keep fucking and looks are the most important for that. Forget crying about sex in my 20s and descending to mtn by 2 years

 

[6ft4]

legit

 

[Deleted member 12234]

My experience is the complete opposite for people in their late teens - 20s. I rarely see anything above a HTN IRL. I see women going for HTNs with some niche. I see HTNs doing the best since they mog most normies (bottom 70% of men). Just look up vids of american parties or public interviews to see how the social scene is if you're under 32. It's easy to pull if you're charismatic, NT, and HTN. Especially college aged women (18-24 yo). They're literally so easy to fuck since alot of them are going through that "hoe phase".

 

[twilight]

My experience is the complete opposite for people in their late teens - 20s. I rarely see anything above a HTN IRL. I see women going for HTNs with some niche. I see HTNs doing the best since they mog most normies (bottom 70% of men). Just look up vids of american parties or public interviews to see how the social scene is if you're under 32. It's easy to pull if you're charismatic, NT, and HTN. Especially college aged women. They're literally so easy to fuck since alot of them are going through that "hoe phase".

miring your ability to reject black and white autistic schizo thinking patterns.

 

[cvzvvc]

Comfortably Chad or bust. Just had a girl open me with a "Hey! You look too good to be true." I asked if she was down to meet that night.

Her: "Yeah! For sure."

Me: "What time works for you?"

*left on read*

 

[Deleted member 21340]

My experience is the complete opposite for people in their late teens - 20s. I rarely see anything above a HTN IRL. I see women going for HTNs with some niche. I see HTNs doing the best since they mog most normies (bottom 70% of men). Just look up vids of american parties or public interviews to see how the social scene is if you're under 32. It's easy to pull if you're charismatic, NT, and HTN. Especially college aged women (18-24 yo). They're literally so easy to fuck since alot of them are going through that "hoe phase".

this is my exact experience
i quite literally do not see chadlites+ irl, almost as if theyre these magical unicorns that are hidden from society
at parties, motives and night clubs the slayers who are surrounded by girls are always the tall (like 6'1+) HTNs with good phenos

chad or death is autism
just be a NT HTN without the manletism and you'll do just fine in the outside world, tinder and online dating is another story though

 

[Deleted member 20370]

legit have no clue what the nightlife is like these days

 

[Deleted member 12234]

miring your ability to reject black and white autistic schizo thinking patterns.

Because I speak from experience. But this guys lives in europe so it may be different where he lives lmao. If you live around a shit ton of young adults (18-32) in america, I don't see how anyone can be chadpilled. Most women are going for HTNs since they're the most accessible.

this is my exact experience
i quite literally do not see chadlites+ irl, almost as if theyre these magical unicorns that are hidden from society
at parties, motives and night clubs the slayers who are surrounded by girls are always the tall (like 6'1+) HTNs with good phenos

chad or death is autism
just be a NT HTN without the manletism and you'll do just fine in the outside world, tinder and online dating is another story though

Agreed.. They're extremely rare, esp chads. I havent seen a legit chad in months. Just dont have a massive failo theory + be HTN.

 

[444]

this is my exact experience
i quite literally do not see chadlites+ irl, almost as if theyre these magical unicorns that are hidden from society
at parties, motives and night clubs the slayers who are surrounded by girls are always the tall (like 6'1+) HTNs with good phenos

chad or death is autism
just be a NT HTN without the manletism and you'll do just fine in the outside world, tinder and online dating is another story though

Because I speak from experience. But this guys lives in europe so it may be different where he lives lmao. If you live around a shit ton of young adults (18-32) in america, I don't see how anyone can be chadpilled. Most women are going for HTNs since they're the most accessible.


Agreed.. They're extremely rare, esp chads. I havent seen a legit chad in months. Just dont have a massive failo theory + be HTN.

Just be attractive bro!
Yeah no shit

 

[Deleted member 21340]

Just be attractive bro!
Yeah no shit

htn is barely even attractive
op said the only people that succeed with women are chadlite+
difference between htn and chadlite is pretty astronomical, you go from "eh well's he's decent looking I guess" to 90%+ of the female population wanting to sleep with you

 

[Yliaster]

The problem is that these anecdotes are all unreliable asf because of how subjective ratings are in the first place.Like for example if you post a pic of a Chadlite here (like many people do) there would be users who disagree and say no he's a Chad or HTN etc meaning that you can shift the goalpost to suit whichever narrative you're trying to push.

In other words these "chadlites" that OP are seeing are probably only subjective to him whereas for others they may be more or less than based on a variety of factors

TLDR : these anecdotes are just a bunch of cringe mental masturbation.

 

[Yliaster]

and neets here will just upvote anything just because they respect the user's opinion for whatever reason lmfao like y'all are really outside seeing only chadlites doing well with women ? really pal ?

 

[datboijj]

htn is barely even attractive
op said the only people that succeed with women are chadlite+
difference between htn and chadlite is pretty astronomical, you go from "eh well's he's decent looking I guess" to 90%+ of the female population wanting to sleep with you

AHh i know what the problem is, you guys think midteir normie is high teir normie
midteir normie = normie that is slightly above average normie
high teir normie = normie that is very noticeably above average normie but not chad lite level
but either way aiming below chad lite is a waste of time, so idk why ur so mad @Yliaster

 

[Deleted member 21340]

AHh i know what the problem is, you guys think midteir normie is high teir normie
midteir normie = normie that is slightly above average normie
high teir normie = normie that is very noticeably above average normie but not chad lite level
but either way aiming below chad lite is a waste of time, so idk why ur so mad @Yliaster

what is this retarded logic
midtier normie
mid
mid
middle

mid = mediocore = average = mean= median = 50th percentile

therefore MTN = average guy, not slightly above average, not slight below average, but average

 

[datboijj]

what is this retarded logic
midtier normie
mid
mid
middle

mid = mediocore = average = mean= median = 50th percentile

therefore MTN = average guy, not slightly above average, not slight below average, but average

yeh logically it makes no sense but that's what this forum has determined "midteir" normie to be
if they meant average they would just say "normie"

 

[aBetterMii]

My experience is the complete opposite for people in their late teens - 20s. I rarely see anything above a HTN IRL. I see women going for HTNs with some niche. I see HTNs doing the best since they mog most normies (bottom 70% of men). Just look up vids of american parties or public interviews to see how the social scene is if you're under 32. It's easy to pull if you're charismatic, NT, and HTN. Especially college aged women (18-24 yo). They're literally so easy to fuck since alot of them are going through that "hoe phase".

Cope

 

[aBetterMii]

miring your ability to reject black and white autistic schizo thinking patterns.

Hes coping

 

[Deleted member 19766]

htn is barely even attractive
op said the only people that succeed with women are chadlite+
difference between htn and chadlite is pretty astronomical, you go from "eh well's he's decent looking I guess" to 90%+ of the female population wanting to sleep with you

HTN is "barely even attractive"? Are you serious? I guess I know some Chadlites IRL then. I don't think I know or tbh have even seen any Chads at school though.

 

[Deleted member 21340]

HTN is "barely even attractive"? Are you serious? I guess I know some Chadlites IRL then. I don't think I know or tbh have even seen any Chads at school though.

a high tier normie isnt someone you'd stereotypically consider attractive
attractive is when you get into the top 15tile range for looks
you get regular compliments on your looks, old is relatively easy. girls approach
being decently good looking is htn

although its all just semantics

 

[Deleted member 22063]

only HTNs i know date regulaly

most eople below that get nothing unless they orbit a girl for years in their social circle.

 

[edodalic29]

htn is barely even attractive
op said the only people that succeed with women are chadlite+
difference between htn and chadlite is pretty astronomical, you go from "eh well's he's decent looking I guess" to 90%+ of the female population wanting to sleep with you

Absolute copium

 

[Deleted member 21340]

Absolute copium

just say "cope" and dont elaborate theory

 

[edodalic29]

just say "cope" and dont elaborate theory

Lol even if your chadlite theres no guarantee that every women would want to sleep with you . Incel fairytailes at its finest . Ive seen chadlites get rejected at clubs . A true htn still mogs 80% of the population

 

[hirochan]

i think its clear that don't be sub5 and don't be manlet is the rule for physciality in terms of getting any form of action. Either have some form of respectable employment and not be autistic or awkward with conversations, no vulgarity, subtle toilet humor etc, and talk about NPC main culture bullshit thats on tiktok or twitter.

 

[Deleted member 21340]

Lol even if your chadlite theres no guarantee that every women would want to sleep with you . Incel fairytailes at its finest . Ive seen chadlites get rejected at clubs . A true htn still mogs 80% of the population

htn isnt 80th percentile jfl
its in the 65-80tile range
chadlite's theoretically shouldnt have trouble with women unless they have a massive failo elsewhere, height, dick, nt, pheno
sure they'll face rejections but it shouldn't be often unless theyre mass cold approaching like a desperate virgin
dating apps should be a breeze as well

 

[Deleted member 23819]

If the girl doesn’t initiate and plan the whole date for you, you aren’t attractive enough for her.

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Comfortably Chad or bust. Just had a girl open me with a "Hey! You look too good to be true." I asked if she was down to meet that night.

Her: "Yeah! For sure."

Me: "What time works for you?"

*left on read*

Happened to me many many times

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Because I speak from experience. But this guys lives in europe so it may be different where he lives lmao. If you live around a shit ton of young adults (18-32) in america, I don't see how anyone can be chadpilled. Most women are going for HTNs since they're the most accessible.


Agreed.. They're extremely rare, esp chads. I havent seen a legit chad in months. Just dont have a massive failo theory + be HTN.

As much as I hate to say it you’re right. And I livenin the hardest nation to get laid on the planet (the UK) and even here what you said is true…

Still it’s a lot of jestering etc but yeah HTN white guy with great NT or height will clean up. Chadlites do well but actual chads are so rare there’s no point speaking about him

 

[444]

htn is barely even attractive

LOL says who? Apparently not women, because HTN have casual sex and relationships without problems. I guess you have even higher standards than women.

htn isnt 80th percentile jfl

Yes it is jfl 70% of people are overweight or obese

you get regular compliments on your looks, old is relatively easy. girls approach

This is what HTN gets.

 

[Deleted member 21340]

Yes it is jfl 70% of people are overweight or obese

we don't all live in america tbh

and debating the semantics of what "attractive" means is a waste of time

 

[444]

we don't all live in america tbh

and debating the semantics of what "attractive" means is a waste of time

So what? In most countries it’s 60% or higher

 

[Deleted member 17872]

NT HTNs always get the hot girls. Onlu autistic ones don't.

Chad or death is only legit if you want to cheat the game and slay without any emotional or resource investment.

 

[Deleted member 21628]

OPs a diagnosed autista

 

[MoggerGaston]

this is my exact experience
i quite literally do not see chadlites+ irl, almost as if theyre these magical unicorns that are hidden from society
at parties, motives and night clubs the slayers who are surrounded by girls are always the tall (like 6'1+) HTNs with good phenos

chad or death is autism
just be a NT HTN without the manletism and you'll do just fine in the outside world, tinder and online dating is another story though

It may be different in the netherlands then.

Even yday at a company drink there was a chadlite guy there, maybe chad to some. Insane forward growth, nw0, perfect skin (no folds, anything), symmetry etc. But would be weird to make a pic of him jfl. ill post him here once theres a public pic of him on the company website or smth.

When I go out to fancy clubs, Tall gymcelled HTNs are that common that they don't even stand-out at all.
Obesity is non-existent.
The ugliest guys at a fancy club will be the nerdy group of colleagues that decided to go out together. Everyone else is looksmaxxed.

At the techno-club last week there was a guy that looked like a copy of this:

caught my attention since he had long-hair like me. Except he had no nasolabial folds, had nw0, was 2-3 inches taller than me (So like 6'4). Basically chad version of me.

I kept an eye on him throughout the night and he didn't get approached even once JFL. Which made me feel a bit better since I was on par with a legit chad that night. As neither of us got approached.

 

[Deleted member 21735]

i dont even know anyc ahdlit

 

[JBcollector]

Are Chadlite+ tier in looks.

I see even HTNs struggling hard and scraping by on dumpster-diving.

JFL at dating honestly. just forget about women unless ur chad - theory.

How about we abolish women's rights

 

[Deleted member 17920]

people saying chadlites are rare are coping hard

 

[Deleted member 18522]

getting an attractive woman in the USA is insane difficulty

Getting one in Eastern Europe or Latin America is way easier

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

People who have social circles with lots of women their own age in tend to be able to find a looksmarched LTR or occasional hookup via jestermaxxing

If you’re a sigma male with no social circle then it’s basicaly over without Chadlite looks

 

[Deleted member 17872]

It may be different in the netherlands then.

Even yday at a company drink there was a chadlite guy there, maybe chad to some. Insane forward growth, nw0, perfect skin (no folds, anything), symmetry etc. But would be weird to make a pic of him jfl. ill post him here once theres a public pic of him on the company website or smth.

When I go out to fancy clubs, Tall gymcelled HTNs are that common that they don't even stand-out at all.
Obesity is non-existent.
The ugliest guys at a fancy club will be the nerdy group of colleagues that decided to go out together. Everyone else is looksmaxxed.

At the techno-club last week there was a guy that looked like a copy of this:

caught my attention since he had long-hair like me. Except he had no nasolabial folds, had nw0, was 2-3 inches taller than me (So like 6'4). Basically chad version of me.

I kept an eye on him throughout the night and he didn't get approached even once JFL. Which made me feel a bit better since I was on par with a legit chad that night. As neither of us got approached.

this guy is a HTN

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

this is my exact experience
i quite literally do not see chadlites+ irl, almost as if theyre these magical unicorns that are hidden from society
at parties, motives and night clubs the slayers who are surrounded by girls are always the tall (like 6'1+) HTNs with good phenos

chad or death is autism
just be a NT HTN without the manletism and you'll do just fine in the outside world, tinder and online dating is another story though

IF you’re Young and in uni/school agree these stats are enough to do fine.

After uni it gets way harder cos oi don’t have have suh easy way to meet girls anymore so you have to be chadlite+ to compensate

 

[MoggerGaston]

this guy is a HTN

Under-rate men and over-rate women. Yuyevon alt?

This is chadlite tier looks easily. Hyper-masc isn't the only way to look chad.

If these are the 'HTNs' getting all the girls then its over for me because I am LTN compared to this.

 

[Mastermind]

I think you are overreaching, the bar is HTN and anyone below that doesn't get laid more than 3 times a year unless they are in a relationship

 

[Mastermind]

IF you’re Young and in uni/school agree these stats are enough to do fine.

After uni it gets way harder cos oi don’t have have suh easy way to meet girls anymore so you have to be chadlite+ to compensate

Legit
Once your social circle is gone looks are the only way to cold approach a stranger
Which is why sub HTN can have it easy as long as they have their circle tight

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

Legit
Once your social circle is gone looks are the only way to cold approach a stranger
Which is why sub HTN can have it easy as long as they have their circle tight

I’ve said this before but I’ll re-emphasise it

Girls have two differnet looks thresholds, one for guys in their social circle, at work, friends of friends etc, and a seperate one for guys who randomly approach them cold or messgae them on apps etc

The second threshold is MUCH higher than the first- that’s why there’s people on the forum complaining that they can’t get anything despite being HTN and yet when you leave your house all you see is looksmatched couples.

 

[Mastermind]

I’ve said this before but I’ll re-emphasise it

Girls have two differnet looks thresholds, one for guys in their social circle, at work, friends of friends etc, and a seperate one for guys who randomly approach them cold or messgae them on apps etc

The second threshold is MUCH higher than the first- that’s why there’s people on the forum complaining that they can’t get anything despite being HTN and yet when you leave your house all you see is looksmatched couples.

Being NT and having a proper social circle is as important as looks

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

Being NT and having a proper social circle is as important as looks

It’s the only way to get laid with anything other than a landwhale as sub HTN tbh

 

[Deleted member 17872]

Under-rate men and over-rate women. Yuyevon alt?

This is chadlite tier looks easily. Hyper-masc isn't the only way to look chad.

If these are the 'HTNs' getting all the girls then its over for me because I am LTN compared to this.

Marlon mogs the guy you posted

jfl if you think are on similar level. right mogs left hard. left looks beta af

u r a bit above avrage but not htn 4.3 PSL i did say.

 

[MoggerGaston]

Marlon mogs the guy you posted

jfl if you think are on similar level. right mogs left hard. left looks beta af

u r a bit above avrage but not htn 4.3 PSL i did say.

The left guy and right guy are literally the same person, but with a different pose and hair.

jfl at this forum.