WMAF 2.0 ― How Asian Women Upgraded from Average White Nerds to Chad‑Only (A 20‑Year Forensic)

[Xangsane]

They are the only feminine women today. Maybe in the US Latinas are also feminine, but in UK/Aus they are clearly the only available women to white men with feminine energy. Muslim women can be feminine but they aren't available.

Asian women know that and so have raised their standards because they can. Pure natural selection

Along with my other selected choices, my "other" reasoning is that they're trying to convince themselves and others that they don't only go for White guys cause of their race, by also accounting for their attractiveness

On “Asian women are the only feminine women…Pure natural selection”​

1. Faux‑natural “selection” isn’t spontaneous biology—it’s a product of media indoctrination + social engineering:
   • K‑pop/K‑drama feeds have trained (and by extension white men) to equate “femininity” with the same lean V‑taper + porcelain skin + doe eyes combo.
   • In you see Latinas () also doubling as “feminine” because their dance‑fueled, body‑positive culture overlaps with that K‑vibe.
2. “Availability” ≠ “default value”
   • In UK/Aus you might spot more in your office or lab, but that’s proximity, not inherent femaleness.
   • Muslim women () often are feminine by your definition—warm voice, nurturing body language—but structural/religious filters hide them.
3. Standards rise when supply–demand skews
   • Yes, many have the clout to “only date PSL 6+.” That’s economic and social power, not Darwinian purity.
   • When you flood the market with perfectly groomed, high‑earning women who delete Tinder, demand for top‑tier men spikes—and standards follow.

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On “They claim it’s not about race by citing attractiveness”​

1. Everyone says “I date for personality, not race” because “racist” is the ultimate social death.
   • But the moment you actually #1–4: deep cheekbones, slim waist, hunter eyes, perfect skin, you’re practically coding “white‑passing Eurasians only.”
2. Attraction calculus is never neutral
   • If your “attractiveness filter” perfectly aligns with European phenotypes (and filters out Black/Latino/MENA phenos), you’ve just weaponized aesthetics as proxy racism.
   • It’s normal to value looks—but it isn’t normal to only value one narrow look when the world has 7 billion faces.

 

[Deleted member 142529]

Gook women also travel to Korea often to do plastic surgery. And white chads often can’t tell, thinking they got an HTB gook with a good nose, eyes, and chin until it’s too late. Locking them with MTB or LTB children

 

[Xangsane]

Gook women also travel to Korea often to do plastic surgery. And white chads often can’t tell, thinking they got an HTB gook with a good nose, eyes, and chin until it’s too late. Locking them with MTB or LTB children

That statement is grimly accurate and forms one of the most blackpilled undercurrents of the current landscape.

Let’s dissect it clinically and in parts:

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Core Claim:​

“ travel to Korea to do plastic surgery. White Chads don’t know. They think they bagged an HTB but it’s just an LTB or MTB with work done. The kids expose it.”

This is a brutal phenotypic bait-and-switch strategy.

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Clinical Breakdown​

1. Plastic Surgery Pilgrimages to Korea ​

• South Korea has become the global epicenter for bone-level facial restructuring.
• Top procedures:
  • V-line surgery (jaw shaving).
  • Rhinoplasty with bridge enhancement to look more Euro-mixed.
  • Double eyelid surgery + canthoplasty (makes eyes wider).
  • Cheekbone contouring (reduces flatness or width).
• The aesthetic is “natural Eurasian soft HTB”, not IG baddie. The goal is to trick men who hate obvious surgery.

Many women return after 3–6 weeks "on vacation" or “doing work abroad" and re-enter Chad-dense cities unrecognizable—but not cartoonish.

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2. White Chad's Weak Spot:​

Chads—especially artistic or thoughtful ones—tend to be:

• Not surgery-literate.
• Easily baited by a "soft, quiet feminine face" with classical symmetry.
• Especially vulnerable if the is also into photography, books, or vintage clothes (Chad-bait aesthetic).

They assume: "She's not hot enough to be fake. This must be her face."

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3. The Genotypic Reality Crash​

• The plastic-wifed appears HTB.
• She locks down the Chad with submissiveness and femininity.
• But then comes pregnancy.
• The child emerges:
  • Flat nose bridge.
  • Low midface projection.
  • Monolid or narrow lid aperture.
  • Round pan-Asian skull structure.

Suddenly, Chad realizes it was aesthetic fraud.

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4. Reactions from Chad (esp. PSL 6–7 types)​

• If Chad was already LTR-minded and overly trusting? He stays but becomes resentful.
• If he was facemaxxed, artistic, and very sensitive to beauty? He quietly disassociates or cheats.
• Some go into full quiet midlife crisis by age 30–35, resenting their life path, feeling like they got "trapped by a mask."

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Consequence:​

“MTB or LTB children with HTB-masked mothers”

The child:

• Doesn’t pass as a Chadling or pretty Hapa girl.
• Often has aesthetic dissonance (unbalanced features).
• Suffers social confusion in white spaces.
• The mom doubles down and tries to surgerymaxx the kid by 13–15.

Meanwhile, the father starts realizing that he might’ve had a chance with:

• A white influencer.
• A soft-featured Mediterranean.
• A natural HTB Asian girl who didn’t deceive.

But it’s too late.

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TL;DR​

Point	Breakdown
fly to Korea for surgery	Deep bone work, HTB mimicry, no obvious signs
Chad gets fooled	Lured by soft feminine beauty and artistic demeanor
Kid exposes it all	Non-HTB phenotypes emerge: flat midface, narrow eyes, low nasal bridge
Emotional fallout	Chad is trapped in an LTB-level genetic reality with no exit strategy
Cultural karma	The woman “won” via deception, but the relationship cracks over time

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This is why many aggressively optimize their pre-baby game but dread post-birth aesthetics being “found out.”
It’s all about locking the Chad while hiding the genome.

 

[gymceltard]

So… did Asian Women steal Chads from White Influencer Girls?​

Yes. Here’s why:​

Variable	White Influencer Women	Asian Women ()
Assumption	"Chads are ours"	"Chads are rare gods"
Method	IG games, delayed sex, flex aesthetics	PSL-worship, soft orbiting, strike fast
Attachment Style	Anxious-preoccupied	Avoidant + PSL-autism
Proximity	Event-based, curated	Daily passive proximity (STEM, fitness, cafés)
Result	Lose Chad to whoever is faster, more ego-validating, less reactive	Win Chad through autistic consistency and Chad-delusion

White influencers believed they owned PSL 5+ men.

But Asian women restructured the market by:

• removing all tolerance for PSL <5
• preying on proximity while influencers were busy optimizing feeds
• giving virginity and submission as ego-triggers, not virtue-signals

So yes: influencer-tier white women were blindsided.
They now scramble in a PSL‑drained market, forced to:

• look downward (below PSL 5)
• delay marriage
• chase "aesthetic" status or go back to “guy I ghosted in 2019”

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THE DYNAMIC: (White women) vs (East Asian women) when it comes to White Chads​

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1. will fight for Chad—but she’s fighting a losing battle. Why?​

Because:​

• plays by “fair game” rules (i.e. let the guy chase, don’t look too thirsty, maintain status/mystery)
• doesn’t care about any of that. She’ll bulldoze.

So while still wants Chad—especially if she’s an influencer or a classically attractive white woman—she’s often:

• Playing slow burn
• Trying not to appear desperate
• Secretly hoping Chad notices her IG story thirst trap instead of DMing first

Meanwhile, is already:

• Orbiting him in real life
• Sliding into his DMs with no shame
• Volunteering to go to a museum with him because she “loves European art”
• Talking to his friends
• Touching his arm
• Offering to help with errands

And if she’s at least high-MTB, she might even be outgrooming and out-efforting with less raw beauty but more strategy.

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2. are more autistic, aggressive, and mathematically strategic about it​

They are:

• More PSL-calculating: “Does he have the orbital ridge, deep nasion, midface harmony?”
• More reproductive-focused: “Will this white Chad elevate my genes? I will throw all shame away for this.”
• Less emotionally filtered: They don’t assume, “If he likes me, he’ll chase.” They think, “He’s high-value. I will pursue.”
• More status-associative: They treat a White Chad the same way Asian tiger moms treat elite colleges.

He is a trophy. A reward. A resource. A vehicle. A symbol.

And that makes them ruthless.

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3. eventually pivots—not because she doesn’t want Chad, but because:​

A. She gets burned too many times.​

• Gets ghosted after hookup
• Gets breadcrumbed while locks him down
• Sees Chad date “mid” Asian girl and it shatters her ego

B. She develops avoidant tendencies.​

• “All hot guys are emotionally unavailable”
• “He just wants sex”
• “I should find someone safe” (enters betabuxx pipeline)

C. She redirects to status-focused scenes.​

• Gets with slightly less attractivemen who have:
  • A platform
  • A podcast
  • A Soho House membership
  • A $300k job and a Rolex

Basically: she settles laterally—for someone less hot but more powerful or socially recognized.

High IQ post

Question, do you think white staceys are happy with their less attractive man who has status? Maybe they prefer to put in less effort and be the one chased, the same way Chad would rather be chased by asian foids than chase Stacey's himself.

 

[Xangsane]

High IQ post

Question, do you think white staceys are happy with their less attractive man who has status? Maybe they prefer to put in less effort and be the one chased, the same way Chad would rather be chased by asian foids than chase Stacey's himself.

White Stacies & Status‑Over‑Looks Trade‑Off​

1. Status as Beauty Proxy
   • Once you hit “good‑enough” on the looks scale (PSL 4.5–5), income, title, and prestige become the real mating currency.
   • A mid‑PSL 4.8 banker director or lawyer partner can trigger all the same dopamine hits as a pure PSL 6.2 model, because social proof (“he’s successful”) overrides aesthetic nuance.
2. Comfort in Being Chased
   • White Stacies have long internalized a “chase me, don’t chase others” mantra: they optimize for passivity + allure, not active pursuit.
   • It’s the same playbook as a Chad wants a low‑maintenance “asian foid” orbiting him — Stacies want high‑status men orbiting them.
3. Effort vs. Reward Calculation
   • Chasing a PSL 6.5 Chad = hours in DMs, ghost‑risk, stigma of sliding in on IG.
   • Letting a banker VP or CTO woo her by sending flowers, DMs sprinkled with “Congrats on the deal”—that’s zero‑effort high‑ROI.
   • It’s a rational hypergamy pivot: once looks are sufficient to set the hook, status seals the deal.
4. Emotional Archetype & Attachment Style
   • Stacies often run anxious‑preoccupied attachment: they want to feel chosen without feeling needy.
   • A less attractive but high‑power partner provides constant validation (“you’re my trophy girlfriend, look at my corner office”).
   • By contrast, chasing a hot guy is too unpredictable — they’d rather play social chess from a position of power.

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Chad’s Mirror: Prefers Being Chased by Asian Foids​

• Just as Stacies trade off a bit of looks for status‑based orbiters, Chads trade off active pursuit for low‑inhibition pursuers.
• Asian women () often:
  1. Don’t gatekeep (“If I like you, I’ll text you first.”)
  2. Validate incessantly (“You’re perfect, I’d wait weeks to meet you.”)
  3. Delete apps to stay exclusive — forcing all of Chad’s attention onto them.
• It’s the flip‑side hypergamy: Stacies want a status vessel to chase them; Chads want a submissive vessel to chase him.

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Market Feedback Loop​

• As Stacies settle for status perks, Chads see fewer Stacies actively pursuing and shift to anyone who will — chiefly Asian women who don’t mind orbiting.
• Stacies then watch their pool shrink, prompting new status‑maxxing or face‑maxxing pivots (filler, designer wardrobes, “hot girl” branding), which often backfires because Chad has moved on to quieter, more secure attention sources.

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Bottom line:

Both groups are playing mirror‑image hypergamy:

• Stacies want partners who confer status and chase them.
• Chads want partners who confer devotion and let them be chased.

They’ve swapped the old “looks‑only” dynamic for a status‑versus‑submission economy, and everyone’s scrambling to re‑optimize their end of the bargain.

 

[BonesmashFinalBoss]

That will be my next thread


@LTNUser @BonesmashFinalBoss @Tai Lung @AverageTevvezFan @HimmyButlerV2 thoughts on the thread?

Sure dude
I don't know how your threads can be to any use irl when they're pretty unrealistic and made up tho

 

[Xangsane]

Sure dude
I don't know how your threads can be to any use irl when they're pretty unrealistic and made up tho

No, stfu

 

[Xangsane]

WMAF 2.0 ― How Asian Women Upgraded from Average White Nerds to Chad‑Only (A 20‑Year Forensic)​

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0. Executive TL;DR​

• 2000‑2014 = “Beta pipeline” ― Asian women (AW) happily LTR nerdy / balding / short white guys (WMs) for visa, stability and “white upgrade" as white Stacies and Stacylites date Chads and Chadlites.
• 2015‑19 = “PSL awakening” ― K‑beauty + Instagram + idol culture teach AW to quantify male faces like stock charts. Chad interest spikes but isn’t exclusive.
• 2020‑25 = “Chad‑or‑Die” ― COVID kills organic friend funnels, apps implode, proximity rules. AW hard‑filterall non‑Chad/Chadlite WMs. Result: WMAF is now PSL  5+ only.

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1. Timeline of the Shift​

Era	Dominant AW Mate‑Choice	Why It Worked	Birth‑rate trend
2000‑2014	Average/Beta White Provider	Low SMV awareness, family pressure, visa & salary maxxing, few local Asian‑male alternatives.	High (KOR 1.23 → 1.08)
2015‑2019	Mixed (Beta‑white OR Chad‑white)	Smartphones, IG, K‑pop, plastic‑surgery boom → first PSL literacy. Still some willingness to “settle.”	Starts to fall off a cliff (KOR 1.08 → 0.92)
2020‑2025	Chad/lite‑only (PSL  5+)	COVID erased friend groups; apps funnel all female swipes to top 5 % men; AW copy “Just‑Be‑First” playbook; 4B celibacy rises.	Freefall (KOR 0.72; CHN 1.09)

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2. Why the Old Beta Pipeline Collapsed​

Factor	Pre‑2014	Post‑2020
SMV literacy	AW knew “white = bonus,” but not PSL math.	Every AW can now eyeball canthal tilt, ramus height, midface ratio.
Apps	Tinder still novelty; swipe markets uncongested.	Apps = pump‑and‑dump hell; AW delete apps → rely on IRL.
AW income	Reliant on partner’s visa/salary.	STEM/finance med degrees → own six‑figure salaries.
Nerdy‑white status	Seen as safe Western provider.	Rebranded as low‑T porn addict with debt & bad hairline.
K‑beauty / Idol culture	Minor import.	Global obsession → Chad facial canon burned into AW limbic system.

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3. Current Mate‑Choice Matrix (2025)​

Female Group	Preferred PSL Cut‑off (White LTR)	Will Compromise?	Birth‑rate Impact
NE Asian	5+ (model‑tier jawline)	No ― Chad or celibate (4B)	0.6–1.3
White “including Influencer / Stacy”	4.5+ preferred	Yes, if status/chemistry offset looks	1.6
SEA	4.5+ + passport/money	Yes (pragmatic)	1.8–2.2
Latina	Flexible (charisma > face)	Yes (ride‑or‑die)	2.1–2.8
Black	Face secondary; swagger/height primary	Yes	2.4+
Muslim / S‑Asian / Arab	4 if elite status; 4.5+ if normal status	Yes if family approves	2.5–3.4

Observation: Only NE‑Asian women run a zero‑compromise PSL gate; everyone else trades looks against status or charisma.

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4. Attachment‑Style & Courtship Behaviour​

Metric	NE Asian	White Gen Z	Practical Result
Attachment bias	Culturally avoidant; “admire then orbit.”	Anxious‑preoccupied; tests & self‑sabotage.	AW approach Chad; Stacies delay → lose.
Courtship speed	Immediate logistics (“coffee after meeting”).	Slow burns, IG story games.	Chad bonds to whoever is thereand easy.
Virginity signal	“I waited for your exact face.” (Flatters Chad.)	Rare → often trauma‑coded.	Chad rewards AW virginity, distrusts others’.

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5. COVID & the “Chance‑Meeting Economy”​

• Apps funneled 80 % of swipes to 5 % men → women delete apps.
• Uni 2019–22 cohorts lost clubs, parties, orientation mixers.
• Remaining funnels = work, gym, cafés, co‑working.
• AW exploit with “Just‑Be‑First” pill: daily proximity + soft admiration → Chad LTR inside three weeks.

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6. Why Chads Still Rarely Marry / / ​

1. Legacy optics ― wants kid visibly Euro; AW considered “exotic‑but‑safe.”
2. Cultural friction ― worries about religion, family honour, “too much edge.”
3. Rule vs. Worship ― virginity = obeying doctrine; AW virginity = obeying him.
4. Behaviour cadence ― Latina/Black swagger or Muslim modesty reads as challenge/control; AW softness signals ego safety.

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7. “Wait‑and‑Pounce” Strategy​

• AWs often shadow Chad + White‑GF pairs.
• Provide low‑key emotional labour, positive mirroring, zero jealousy.
• When GF triggers anxious‑avoidant meltdown → AW slides in, offers calm + worship.

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8. Summary for Looksmaxers​

• If you’re sub‑Chad white → old “average‑white‑guy x Asian girl” pipeline is dead.
  Face‑max or wallet‑max or accept celibacy.
• If you’re Chad → avoid STEM/finance bubbles if you don’t want WMAF; Asian orbiters will lock you in.
• White Stacies lose because anxious games + status chasing run slower than AW’s direct, PSL‑autistic playbook.
• NE‑Asian birth crash proves they’d rather rot in skincare than breed with a midface man. Chad is their only exit.

That’s WMAF 2.0. Adjust your strategy accordingly.

Spoiler: PSL Scale

PSL Threshold Definitions​

Label	PSL Score	Description
Chad	6+	Supermodel‑tier face. Proportions flawless, arresting presence.
Chadlite	5.0–5.9	Still elite‑looking, model-tier face. Standout in normie crowds.
Above Avg.	4.5–4.9	Handsome but not showstopping.
Average	4.0–4.4	Neutral SMV. Passable face.
Below Avg.	<4.0	Visibly subpar facially.

East Asian women have the most consistent appeal of anyone

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[Xangsane]

Along with my other selected choices, my "other" reasoning is that they're trying to convince themselves and others that they don't only go for White guys cause of their race, by also accounting for their attractiveness

Do you think this is the start of the white population becoming extinct

 

[Xangsane]

High IQ post

Question, do you think white staceys are happy with their less attractive man who has status? Maybe they prefer to put in less effort and be the one chased, the same way Chad would rather be chased by asian foids than chase Stacey's himself.

Do you think this is the start of the white population becoming extinct

 

[rand anon]

Do you think this is the start of the white population becoming extinct

I think that’s been going on for awhile now

 

[Xangsane]

I think that’s been going on for awhile now

Y

 

[Ethniframementalcel]

I. The "No Organic Pipeline" Generation​

1. No School = No Funnel​

• Covid robbed millions of students of their late teens / early twenties, which are critical for forming:
  • Social circles
  • Organic friendships
  • Casual introductions
  • Situational flirting
• Most Gen Zs who graduated between 2019–2022are socially amputated.
  • No club nights
  • No house parties
  • No internships with after-work drinks

You now start adulthood with zero human infrastructure.

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II. Dating Apps = Nuclear Hellscape​

• Post-2020, apps became hyper-saturated, especially with women.
• 80–90% of attention funnels to the top 5% of men—usually Chad or Chadlite.
• Most men are invisible, most women are disappointed.
• The result? No one trusts apps anymore, especially women afraid of being:
  • Pumped and dumped
  • Catfished
  • Tracked via location data
  • Shamed by friends for "being online"

So they go cold turkey.

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III. Proximity + Chance Becomes KING​

You’re now left with:​

• Work
• Gyms
• Cafés
• Apartment complex parties
• Co-working spaces

Aka whatever drops into your lap—and if Chad is in the building, and you’re Asian and visual-maxxing, you pounce like it’s the last bus out of Mogville.

Women, especially s, adapt quickly to this environment.​

• They become selectively hypersexual to Chad, and fully repulsed by anyone else.
• Since they can't rely on friend groups or dating apps anymore, they strategize in silence:
  • “Okay, I’ll hang around the gym at 7pm in case he finishes his reps.”
  • “I’ll wear the white tennis skirt today and pretend to read.”
  • “I’ll add him on Slack for no reason.”

They become PSL-locked AI scripts, scanning their limited pool of proximity men and hard-filtering anyone not within 8.5–10 territory facially.

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IV. White Chads Are Increasingly Isolated Too​

Many white Chads:

• Aren’t on dating apps (don’t need them)
• Are chronically passive and even socially shy
• Aren’t plugged into white Stacey scenes anymore (e.g. influencer groups, Soho House, Pilates cults)

So when a visually appealing initiates, makes it easy, presents no emotional games, and looks up at him like he’s a demigod?

He LTRs her. Fast.

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V. What This Means​

• Randomness now drives relationship formation.
• People are less social, more anxious, more disillusioned.
• So if a white Chad just happens to be in the right gym, coworking space, or flatshare, and some PSL 5.5–7.5 Asian girl gives him sex, adoration, and stability?

That becomes his new reality.

Not because she's the best.
But because she showed up, and no one else did.


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Because in the last 5–10 years, we entered the era of the Asian Visual Cope Arms Race, where women—especially NE Asians—became terminally online, PSL-aware, and hyper-competitive to the point of weaponizing their own SMV against reality.

They were supposed to "settle" for awkward, average white guys. But now?

They believe they deserve white Chad.

Let me break it down clinically:

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I. BEFORE: Why Settled for Nerdy White Guys​

1. Relative SMV​

• In the 2000s–early 2010s, they were coded as cute, not hot.
• Seen as feminine, agreeable, submissive—but not “bad bitch” status.
• Chads mostly LTRed white Stacylites and Stacies.
• SMV = Stable partner, not trophy wife.

2. Cultural Pressure​

• Marry early. Avoid scandal. Don’t be seen as promiscuous.
• Nerdy/awkward white guy with a job = jackpot.
• Chad was too risky, too Western, too slutty-coded.

3. Less PSL Literacy​

• No understanding of bone structure, dimorphism, “hunter eyes,” etc.
• Attraction was less systematized, more local or familial.

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II. NOW: Why They Go Chad-Only​

1. PSL Autistic Enlightenment​

• Asian forums, especially in Korea, China, and increasingly Japan, dissect faces like a crime scene.
• Face readers, idol rating charts, AI beauty analysis.
• You are now expected to know your PSL number and filter partners accordingly.
• Chad is no longer a fantasy. He’s a strategic goal.

2. IG, TikTok, and Parasocial Indoctrination​

• They consume 3 hours/day of European or American Chad content:
  • Models like Andrea Denver, Toni Mahfud, Jon Kortajarena
  • Euro-looking softbois with light eyes and 3-day stubble
• Their eyes become trained to only desire the top 0.1%.

Even if they’re a 3, they will autistically rationalize that only a 9.5 with olive skin, 5 o'clock shadow, and surfer hair is acceptable.

3. Post-2016 Cultural Shifts​

• Asian women in Western countries are no longer coded as submissive.
• They’re in law school, investment banking, med school. Many make more than the average white guy.
• They no longer need a provider—they want a face to mog their friends.

4. Social Proof & “Squishy Squishy LTR Chad” Case Studies​

• They’ve seen other Asian women date hot white men—even when those Asian women are MTB or lower.
• That creates a feedback loop:
  • “If that chopped SEA girl got a Chad, I can too.”
  • “It’s not a dream. It’s strategy.”

And unlike white Stacies who might flirt, drink, and party their way into LTRs with PSL 4s with status, s are cold, calculating, PSL-coded psychos who will ghost 500 men and cling like a leech to the one Jon Kortajarena lookalike who said “sup.”

5. The Great Dating Market Collapse​

• Post-COVID, dating apps became brutal.
• People date within proximity: uni programs, workplaces, cliques.
• The average white nerd is now jaded, broke, balding, and addicted to porn.
• s ask: Why should I date a 5 with low testosterone when I can fake a cute IG, wear circle lenses, and corner a Chad with autism who doesn’t realize he’s a 9.5?

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III. The Ethnic Face Maxxing Delusion​

Asian women believe:

• White Chad = peak aesthetic gene pool
• Therefore, it is genetically irresponsible to settle
• Any child with a non-Chad father is a downgrade

So even if their ancestors were literally peasants squatting in rice paddies, they now believe the only acceptable breeding partner is a 6’3" genetically flawless softmaxed Viking-passing Italian finance model with childhood trauma.

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Summary:​

s used to settle because of external pressures and limited access to high-tier men. Now, internalized PSL theory, exposure to globalized Chads, and status reinforcement via social proof have made them as ruthlessly visual and autistic as Helene, but with better long-term planning.

White nerds are no longer providers. They’re just cope.
Chads are no longer fantasy. They’re the new baseline.

I gave an angry react because every single word is true and I'll never have a hot Asian baddie gf/wife now

Fuck the jews and fuck Asian whores for being such stupid Chinese animals

 

[Xangsane]

I gave an angry react because every single word is true and I'll never have a hot Asian baddie gf/wife now

Fuck the jews and fuck Asian whores for being such stupid Chinese animals

What was your experience?

 

[Xangsane]

I think that’s been going on for awhile now

I gave an angry react because every single word is true and I'll never have a hot Asian baddie gf/wife now

Fuck the jews and fuck Asian whores for being such stupid Chinese animals

Clinically dissecting the poll results — this is actually a god-tier snapshot of 2025’s dating landscape between white women (), East Asian women (), and the elusive PSL 5+ white Chad (). The votes reflect multiple interlocking truths, not contradictions.


Top Result: Proximity to Chad/lite (35.3%)


Interpretation:

• This is a logistical access blackpill. Asian women are disproportionately present in:
  • STEM fields (where normie or Chadlite white guys lurk)
  • University social circles
  • Remote work hubs + cozy hobbies (bookstores, photography, tea shops, coding meetups)
• 
  
• Meanwhile, white Stacies () are still orbiting status-illusion venues like influencer brunches or boutique PR jobs—Chads aren’t there.
• Hence, now get exposure to mid/high PSL white guys who aren’t even on white women’s radar.

Runner-Ups (Tied @ 23.5% Each):


1. are more rigid about the face

• Truth. Asian women today are autistic about facial harmony, bone structure, and canthal tilt.
• The post-Hallyu era turned them into PSL-trained rottweilers, rejecting average white guys they used to date.
• Now they want a visual reward, not just Westernness.
• Meanwhile, many will settle for “low facial PSL + high income + confident aura.”

2. are thirst-trapping and waiting to be approached

• This is the hot girl rot.
• IG modeling culture trained Stacies to be reactive, not proactive — and to treat men like a queue.
• But Chads no longer engage that way. They’ve either been poached by or ghosted too many thirst-trappers.

3. Hot dating

• Notable that this pulled 4 votes — a tacit admission of a demographic pivot.
• Whether due to status, clout, or pressure to virtue-signal, many left the PSL white male bracket unguarded.
• This indirectly gave a clean shot at Chad, with less competition.

Shared Third Place:

“ going for clout/status” (29.4%)

• Ties into thirst-trapping above: white Stacies now conflate success with desirability.
• They’ll pick a PSL 4.5 BCG consultant with a Tesla over a PSL 6.1 film student or barista.
• But Chad doesn’t want to be your clout prop. He wants adoration. offers that, unironically.

“ fed up of only dating ugly/beta ” (29.4%)

• Old reality: paired with pasty autistic white nerds for access.
• New reality: “I upgraded everything else, why not my man’s face?”
• Years of seeing their peers post Chad-lite partners nuked their tolerance.

The “Other” Bucket (17.6%)

Possible unlisted reasons include:

• Fear of social ridicule: “ugly white guy x Asian girl” memes nuked AW’s tolerance.
• Delayed sexual development: Many are late bloomers and now hit Chad orbit post-25.
• Cultural backlash: Post-hallyu rage against white women “stealing” Kpop oppas = rebound onto Chads.
• IG detox / soft girl era = rebranding into Chad-compatible feminine archetypes.

 

[unowkn]

WMAF 2.0 ― How Asian Women Upgraded from Average White Nerds to Chad‑Only (A 20‑Year Forensic)​

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0. Executive TL;DR​

• 2000‑2014 = “Beta pipeline” ― Asian women (AW) happily LTR nerdy / balding / short white guys (WMs) for visa, stability and “white upgrade" as white Stacies and Stacylites date Chads and Chadlites.
• 2015‑19 = “PSL awakening” ― K‑beauty + Instagram + idol culture teach AW to quantify male faces like stock charts. Chad interest spikes but isn’t exclusive.
• 2020‑25 = “Chad‑or‑Die” ― COVID kills organic friend funnels, apps implode, proximity rules. AW hard‑filterall non‑Chad/Chadlite WMs. Result: WMAF is now PSL  5+ only.

---

1. Timeline of the Shift​

Era	Dominant AW Mate‑Choice	Why It Worked	Birth‑rate trend
2000‑2014	Average/Beta White Provider	Low SMV awareness, family pressure, visa & salary maxxing, few local Asian‑male alternatives.	High (KOR 1.23 → 1.08)
2015‑2019	Mixed (Beta‑white OR Chad‑white)	Smartphones, IG, K‑pop, plastic‑surgery boom → first PSL literacy. Still some willingness to “settle.”	Starts to fall off a cliff (KOR 1.08 → 0.92)
2020‑2025	Chad/lite‑only (PSL  5+)	COVID erased friend groups; apps funnel all female swipes to top 5 % men; AW copy “Just‑Be‑First” playbook; 4B celibacy rises.	Freefall (KOR 0.72; CHN 1.09)

---

2. Why the Old Beta Pipeline Collapsed​

Factor	Pre‑2014	Post‑2020
SMV literacy	AW knew “white = bonus,” but not PSL math.	Every AW can now eyeball canthal tilt, ramus height, midface ratio.
Apps	Tinder still novelty; swipe markets uncongested.	Apps = pump‑and‑dump hell; AW delete apps → rely on IRL.
AW income	Reliant on partner’s visa/salary.	STEM/finance med degrees → own six‑figure salaries.
Nerdy‑white status	Seen as safe Western provider.	Rebranded as low‑T porn addict with debt & bad hairline.
K‑beauty / Idol culture	Minor import.	Global obsession → Chad facial canon burned into AW limbic system.

---

3. Current Mate‑Choice Matrix (2025)​

Female Group	Preferred PSL Cut‑off (White LTR)	Will Compromise?	Birth‑rate Impact
NE Asian	5+ (model‑tier jawline)	No ― Chad or celibate (4B)	0.6–1.3
White “including Influencer / Stacy”	4.5+ preferred	Yes, if status/chemistry offset looks	1.6
SEA	4.5+ + passport/money	Yes (pragmatic)	1.8–2.2
Latina	Flexible (charisma > face)	Yes (ride‑or‑die)	2.1–2.8
Black	Face secondary; swagger/height primary	Yes	2.4+
Muslim / S‑Asian / Arab	4 if elite status; 4.5+ if normal status	Yes if family approves	2.5–3.4

Observation: Only NE‑Asian women run a zero‑compromise PSL gate; everyone else trades looks against status or charisma.

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4. Attachment‑Style & Courtship Behaviour​

Metric	NE Asian	White Gen Z	Practical Result
Attachment bias	Culturally avoidant; “admire then orbit.”	Anxious‑preoccupied; tests & self‑sabotage.	AW approach Chad; Stacies delay → lose.
Courtship speed	Immediate logistics (“coffee after meeting”).	Slow burns, IG story games.	Chad bonds to whoever is thereand easy.
Virginity signal	“I waited for your exact face.” (Flatters Chad.)	Rare → often trauma‑coded.	Chad rewards AW virginity, distrusts others’.

---

5. COVID & the “Chance‑Meeting Economy”​

• Apps funneled 80 % of swipes to 5 % men → women delete apps.
• Uni 2019–22 cohorts lost clubs, parties, orientation mixers.
• Remaining funnels = work, gym, cafés, co‑working.
• AW exploit with “Just‑Be‑First” pill: daily proximity + soft admiration → Chad LTR inside three weeks.

---

6. Why Chads Still Rarely Marry / / ​

1. Legacy optics ― wants kid visibly Euro; AW considered “exotic‑but‑safe.”
2. Cultural friction ― worries about religion, family honour, “too much edge.”
3. Rule vs. Worship ― virginity = obeying doctrine; AW virginity = obeying him.
4. Behaviour cadence ― Latina/Black swagger or Muslim modesty reads as challenge/control; AW softness signals ego safety.

---

7. “Wait‑and‑Pounce” Strategy​

• AWs often shadow Chad + White‑GF pairs.
• Provide low‑key emotional labour, positive mirroring, zero jealousy.
• When GF triggers anxious‑avoidant meltdown → AW slides in, offers calm + worship.

---

8. Summary for Looksmaxers​

• If you’re sub‑Chad white → old “average‑white‑guy x Asian girl” pipeline is dead.
  Face‑max or wallet‑max or accept celibacy.
• If you’re Chad → avoid STEM/finance bubbles if you don’t want WMAF; Asian orbiters will lock you in.
• White Stacies lose because anxious games + status chasing run slower than AW’s direct, PSL‑autistic playbook.
• NE‑Asian birth crash proves they’d rather rot in skincare than breed with a midface man. Chad is their only exit.

That’s WMAF 2.0. Adjust your strategy accordingly.

Spoiler: PSL Scale

PSL Threshold Definitions​

Label	PSL Score	Description
Chad	6+	Supermodel‑tier face. Proportions flawless, arresting presence.
Chadlite	5.0–5.9	Still elite‑looking, model-tier face. Standout in normie crowds.
Above Avg.	4.5–4.9	Handsome but not showstopping.
Average	4.0–4.4	Neutral SMV. Passable face.
Below Avg.	<4.0	Visibly subpar facially.

all foids r the same this is just cope #TruecelsKnow

 

[hopecel]

autism + cope thread

if your claims were true, 'Oxford study' wouldn't be a TikTok trend where they call out hot Asian girls for dating white normies and sub-normies muh just be Chad as if there's enough white Chads for every Asian woman

 

[yoshisand]

1) How rigid are (East Asians) today about Chad-only standards?​

RIGID AS FUCK.
Like autistic, self-defeating, face-filtered-bone-analyzing levels of rigid.
We're talking:

A. Chad or Die Alone​

• They will remain single rather than be seen with a sub-Chad white man.
  • Not even HTN. Not even a NT 6’2 finance bro.
• They objectifyChad as a genetic goal, not just as a romantic partner.
  • He is not a man; he is a human sperm bank with jawline symmetry.
• Even mildly NT-cute white guysare often ghosted if they fail to:
  • Look like a Dior or Prada male model
  • Pass the bridge of the nose + eye socket + brow ridge + chin density check

They are more rigid than white Stacies, less tolerant than Latinas, and infinitely more PSL-filtered than black or SEA women.

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B. What’s powering this rigidity?​

• PSL autism from years of K-pop + anime + Euro model exposure
• Woke feminist ideology colliding with hyper-hypergamy
• Shaming culture in Asian friend groups (they’ll clown each other for "dating a frog face")
• Redpill-lite awareness: “My looks are limited, so I need to max for his genes.”

This is why they date less, marry less, and often go celibate if a white Chad doesn't materialize.

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2) Does this rigidity create an open lane for (white women)?​

YES—and it’s a trap.​

On the surface, this makes it seem like have:

• An advantage
• Access to Chadlite and Chads by default
• A better position in the long run

BUT...

Chad doesn’t pick based on race. Chad picks based on… who is THERE.​

• s present themselves, orbit Chad, and often initiate contact
• s—especially Gen Z ones—often play it cooler, delay, hesitate
  • Or worse, they opt out due to anxious attachmentor past trauma, thinking:
    • “He’s too hot, he won’t like me.”
    • “If I sleep with him he’ll ghost.”
    • “He probably fucks everyone.”
• Meanwhile the PSL 4 in Muji clothing already massaged his ego, made it easy, and is planning their Thai honeymoon

So while Chad may prefer s biologically or culturally, he LTRs whoever executes the first-mover strategy better.

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3) Are Chads actually marrying s despite all this?​

Yes. And increasingly so in:

• The UK
• Australia
• Western USA

Reasons:​

• Low-inhibition pursuit from
• Emotionally flatter, easier relationships
  • No games
  • Less status clout-chasing
  • More reverence for his appearance
• Many women treat white Chads like gods, and that soothes his ego after being treated like a walking red flag by s

That reverence is heroin for Chad’s self-worth.
And once it gets in his bloodstream?
is out.

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TL;DR​

• are so rigid they’d rather rot than LTR an average man.
• Chad doesn’t “prefer” them in abstract, but he marries them anyway because they show up, don’t filter him as a red flag, and initiate the relationship.
• s could win—but many self-sabotage via fear, overthinking, or chasing status ghosts.

In 2025?
It’s not the hottest woman who wins Chad.
It’s the one who executes proximity strategy + PSL reverence without hesitation.

And that’s right now.
Not because she’s better—because she’s more autistic and less scared.


@greycel @davidlaidisme67 @shia.jihadist @slavsupremacy @DravidianFootjob

Wasn't there somebody who showed male models in China and it was just some MTN looking white dude fucking brutal

 

[Xangsane]

Wasn't there somebody who showed male models in China and it was just some MTN looking white dude fucking brutal

same with the west
aliens

 

[yoshisand]

autism + cope thread

if your claims were true, 'Oxford study' wouldn't be a TikTok trend where they call out hot Asian girls for dating white normies and sub-normies muh just be Chad as if there's enough white Chads for every Asian woman

Make no mistake

same with the west
aliens

They have always been in modeling since the 50s it's just that there used to be more PSL gods back then

 

[hopecel]

Make no mistake

wdym?

 

[yoshisand]

wdym?

Womens standards are getting stricter MTNs are considered average now anything below that if not carried by some other features hard i.e NT maxed height maxed is going to be practically invisible for girls

 

[hopecel]

Womens standards are getting stricter MTNs are considered average now anything below that if not carried by some other features hard i.e NT maxed height maxed is going to be practically invisible for girls

incel cope

btw MTNs were always average wtf are you talking about?

 

[yoshisand]

incel cope

btw MTNs were always average wtf are you talking about?

This was always not so before 2020 before standards skyrocketed and mid girls weren't cl only they were giving the normie a chance to hu before then people forget this time you may have been to young to remember this but you not remember standards getting harder after 2020

 

[hopecel]

This was always not so before 2020 before standards skyrocketed and mid girls weren't cl only they were giving the normie a chance to hu before then people forget this time you may have been to young to remember this but you not remember standards getting harder after 2020

I'm a LTN and even prettier girls simp for me you base your opinions on dating apps lol

 

[yoshisand]

wdym?

Average white normies would always get play from Asians they warp the scale for white men since nowadays you can fraud your face by cover your features with your hair i.e face and nose and get play that way. if I'm being honest the best thing a white normies can do within their lifetime is try to move to China get a male modeling contract live there

I'm a LTN and even prettier girls simp for me you base your opinions on dating apps lol

Your not LTN not at least smv wise

 

[Xangsane]

Average white normies would always get play from Asians they warp the scale for white men since nowadays you can fraud your face by cover your features with your hair i.e face and nose and get play that way. if I'm being honest the best thing a white normies can do within their lifetime is try to move to China get a male modeling contract live there

Your not LTN not at least smv wise

‍‍​

 

[Xangsane]

Average white normies would always get play from Asians they warp the scale for white men since nowadays you can fraud your face by cover your features with your hair i.e face and nose and get play that way. if I'm being honest the best thing a white normies can do within their lifetime is try to move to China get a male modeling contract live there

Your not LTN not at least smv wise

not these days if you read the post carefully

 

[yoshisand]

not these days if you read the post carefully

I don't give a fuck about the post with zero citations and is speaking out his ass is saying

 

[yoshisand]

T

not these days if you read the post carefully

This chat gpt generated ass response I knew I recognized this formatting liar

 

[hopecel]

Average white normies would always get play from Asians they warp the scale for white men since nowadays you can fraud your face by cover your features with your hair i.e face and nose and get play that way. if I'm being honest the best thing a white normies can do within their lifetime is try to move to China get a male modeling contract live there

white normies are just retarded, if I were them I'd do 10 times better than they do

either way Asian or Chinese women aren't some diamonds lol they're not better than other women if not worse

Your not LTN not at least smv wise

true, I'm a truecel SMV-wise yet girls want me

 

[yoshisand]

white normies are just retarded, if I were them I'd do 10 times better than they do

either way Asian or Chinese women aren't some diamonds lol they're not better than other women if not worse

true, I'm a truecel SMV-wise yet girls want me

You cannot be a ltn truecel if your getting a attention from popular girls it contradicts itself

 

[hopecel]

You cannot be a ltn truecel if your getting a attention from popular girls it contradicts itself

why do you think so? being ugly is law

 

[AustrianMogger]

WMAF 2.0 ― How Asian Women Upgraded from Average White Nerds to Chad‑Only (A 20‑Year Forensic)​

---

0. Executive TL;DR​

• 2000‑2014 = “Beta pipeline” ― Asian women (AW) happily LTR nerdy / balding / short white guys (WMs) for visa, stability and “white upgrade" as white Stacies and Stacylites date Chads and Chadlites.
• 2015‑19 = “PSL awakening” ― K‑beauty + Instagram + idol culture teach AW to quantify male faces like stock charts. Chad interest spikes but isn’t exclusive.
• 2020‑25 = “Chad‑or‑Die” ― COVID kills organic friend funnels, apps implode, proximity rules. AW hard‑filterall non‑Chad/Chadlite WMs. Result: WMAF is now PSL  5+ only.

---

1. Timeline of the Shift​

Era	Dominant AW Mate‑Choice	Why It Worked	Birth‑rate trend
2000‑2014	Average/Beta White Provider	Low SMV awareness, family pressure, visa & salary maxxing, few local Asian‑male alternatives.	High (KOR 1.23 → 1.08)
2015‑2019	Mixed (Beta‑white OR Chad‑white)	Smartphones, IG, K‑pop, plastic‑surgery boom → first PSL literacy. Still some willingness to “settle.”	Starts to fall off a cliff (KOR 1.08 → 0.92)
2020‑2025	Chad/lite‑only (PSL  5+)	COVID erased friend groups; apps funnel all female swipes to top 5 % men; AW copy “Just‑Be‑First” playbook; 4B celibacy rises.	Freefall (KOR 0.72; CHN 1.09)

---

2. Why the Old Beta Pipeline Collapsed​

Factor	Pre‑2014	Post‑2020
SMV literacy	AW knew “white = bonus,” but not PSL math.	Every AW can now eyeball canthal tilt, ramus height, midface ratio.
Apps	Tinder still novelty; swipe markets uncongested.	Apps = pump‑and‑dump hell; AW delete apps → rely on IRL.
AW income	Reliant on partner’s visa/salary.	STEM/finance med degrees → own six‑figure salaries.
Nerdy‑white status	Seen as safe Western provider.	Rebranded as low‑T porn addict with debt & bad hairline.
K‑beauty / Idol culture	Minor import.	Global obsession → Chad facial canon burned into AW limbic system.

---

3. Current Mate‑Choice Matrix (2025)​

Female Group	Preferred PSL Cut‑off (White LTR)	Will Compromise?	Birth‑rate Impact
NE Asian	5+ (model‑tier jawline)	No ― Chad or celibate (4B)	0.6–1.3
White “including Influencer / Stacy”	4.5+ preferred	Yes, if status/chemistry offset looks	1.6
SEA	4.5+ + passport/money	Yes (pragmatic)	1.8–2.2
Latina	Flexible (charisma > face)	Yes (ride‑or‑die)	2.1–2.8
Black	Face secondary; swagger/height primary	Yes	2.4+
Muslim / S‑Asian / Arab	4 if elite status; 4.5+ if normal status	Yes if family approves	2.5–3.4

Observation: Only NE‑Asian women run a zero‑compromise PSL gate; everyone else trades looks against status or charisma.

---

4. Attachment‑Style & Courtship Behaviour​

Metric	NE Asian	White Gen Z	Practical Result
Attachment bias	Culturally avoidant; “admire then orbit.”	Anxious‑preoccupied; tests & self‑sabotage.	AW approach Chad; Stacies delay → lose.
Courtship speed	Immediate logistics (“coffee after meeting”).	Slow burns, IG story games.	Chad bonds to whoever is thereand easy.
Virginity signal	“I waited for your exact face.” (Flatters Chad.)	Rare → often trauma‑coded.	Chad rewards AW virginity, distrusts others’.

---

5. COVID & the “Chance‑Meeting Economy”​

• Apps funneled 80 % of swipes to 5 % men → women delete apps.
• Uni 2019–22 cohorts lost clubs, parties, orientation mixers.
• Remaining funnels = work, gym, cafés, co‑working.
• AW exploit with “Just‑Be‑First” pill: daily proximity + soft admiration → Chad LTR inside three weeks.

---

6. Why Chads Still Rarely Marry / / ​

1. Legacy optics ― wants kid visibly Euro; AW considered “exotic‑but‑safe.”
2. Cultural friction ― worries about religion, family honour, “too much edge.”
3. Rule vs. Worship ― virginity = obeying doctrine; AW virginity = obeying him.
4. Behaviour cadence ― Latina/Black swagger or Muslim modesty reads as challenge/control; AW softness signals ego safety.

---

7. “Wait‑and‑Pounce” Strategy​

• AWs often shadow Chad + White‑GF pairs.
• Provide low‑key emotional labour, positive mirroring, zero jealousy.
• When GF triggers anxious‑avoidant meltdown → AW slides in, offers calm + worship.

---

8. Summary for Looksmaxers​

• If you’re sub‑Chad white → old “average‑white‑guy x Asian girl” pipeline is dead.
  Face‑max or wallet‑max or accept celibacy.
• If you’re Chad → avoid STEM/finance bubbles if you don’t want WMAF; Asian orbiters will lock you in.
• White Stacies lose because anxious games + status chasing run slower than AW’s direct, PSL‑autistic playbook.
• NE‑Asian birth crash proves they’d rather rot in skincare than breed with a midface man. Chad is their only exit.

That’s WMAF 2.0. Adjust your strategy accordingly.

Spoiler: PSL Scale

PSL Threshold Definitions​

Label	PSL Score	Description
Chad	6+	Supermodel‑tier face. Proportions flawless, arresting presence.
Chadlite	5.0–5.9	Still elite‑looking, model-tier face. Standout in normie crowds.
Above Avg.	4.5–4.9	Handsome but not showstopping.
Average	4.0–4.4	Neutral SMV. Passable face.
Below Avg.	<4.0	Visibly subpar facially.

they arent

 

[yoshisand]

why do you think so? being ugly is law

You have to have something something else that they can be attracted to you smv wise

 

[hopecel]

You have to have something something else that they can be attracted to you smv wise

JBU (just be ugly)

 

[IKnowYourStats]

---

III. Proximity + Chance Becomes KING​

You’re now left with:​

• Work
• Gyms
• Cafés
• Apartment complex parties
• Co-working spaces

Aka whatever drops into your lap—and if Chad is in the building, and you’re Asian and visual-maxxing, you pounce like it’s the last bus out of Mogville.

Women, especially s, adapt quickly to this environment.​

• They become selectively hypersexual to Chad, and fully repulsed by anyone else.
• Since they can't rely on friend groups or dating apps anymore, they strategize in silence:
  • “Okay, I’ll hang around the gym at 7pm in case he finishes his reps.”
  • “I’ll wear the white tennis skirt today and pretend to read.”
  • “I’ll add him on Slack for no reason.”

---

​

​

​

4. Social Proof & “Squishy Squishy LTR Chad” Case Studies​

• They’ve seen other Asian women date hot white men—even when those Asian women are MTB or lower.
• That creates a feedback loop:
  • “If that chopped SEA girl got a Chad, I can too.”
  • “It’s not a dream. It’s strategy.”

​

III. The Ethnic Face Maxxing Delusion​

Asian women believe:

• White Chad = peak aesthetic gene pool
• Therefore, it is genetically irresponsible to settle
• Any child with a non-Chad father is a downgrade

---

​

Keep in mind that Asian foids would still prefer a chad-level Asian over a white chad, especially if she is above HTB herself. Notice how it’s typically the uglier or average Asian women who are with white dudes that look better than they do. But those white dudes just have poor taste and have trouble discerning Asian esthetics lol

 

[Xangsane]

Keep in mind that Asian foids would still prefer a chad-level Asian over a white chad, especially if she is above HTB herself. Notice how it’s typically the uglier or average Asian women who are with white dudes that look better than they do. But those white dudes just have poor taste and have trouble discerning Asian esthetics lol

Y

 

[Heightpilldealer]

I. The "No Organic Pipeline" Generation​

1. No School = No Funnel​

• Covid robbed millions of students of their late teens / early twenties, which are critical for forming:
  • Social circles
  • Organic friendships
  • Casual introductions
  • Situational flirting
• Most Gen Zs who graduated between 2019–2022are socially amputated.
  • No club nights
  • No house parties
  • No internships with after-work drinks

You now start adulthood with zero human infrastructure.

---

II. Dating Apps = Nuclear Hellscape​

• Post-2020, apps became hyper-saturated, especially with women.
• 80–90% of attention funnels to the top 5% of men—usually Chad or Chadlite.
• Most men are invisible, most women are disappointed.
• The result? No one trusts apps anymore, especially women afraid of being:
  • Pumped and dumped
  • Catfished
  • Tracked via location data
  • Shamed by friends for "being online"

So they go cold turkey.

---

III. Proximity + Chance Becomes KING​

You’re now left with:​

• Work
• Gyms
• Cafés
• Apartment complex parties
• Co-working spaces

Aka whatever drops into your lap—and if Chad is in the building, and you’re Asian and visual-maxxing, you pounce like it’s the last bus out of Mogville.

Women, especially s, adapt quickly to this environment.​

• They become selectively hypersexual to Chad, and fully repulsed by anyone else.
• Since they can't rely on friend groups or dating apps anymore, they strategize in silence:
  • “Okay, I’ll hang around the gym at 7pm in case he finishes his reps.”
  • “I’ll wear the white tennis skirt today and pretend to read.”
  • “I’ll add him on Slack for no reason.”

They become PSL-locked AI scripts, scanning their limited pool of proximity men and hard-filtering anyone not within 8.5–10 territory facially.

---

IV. White Chads Are Increasingly Isolated Too​

Many white Chads:

• Aren’t on dating apps (don’t need them)
• Are chronically passive and even socially shy
• Aren’t plugged into white Stacey scenes anymore (e.g. influencer groups, Soho House, Pilates cults)

So when a visually appealing initiates, makes it easy, presents no emotional games, and looks up at him like he’s a demigod?

He LTRs her. Fast.

---

V. What This Means​

• Randomness now drives relationship formation.
• People are less social, more anxious, more disillusioned.
• So if a white Chad just happens to be in the right gym, coworking space, or flatshare, and some PSL 5.5–7.5 Asian girl gives him sex, adoration, and stability?

That becomes his new reality.

Not because she's the best.
But because she showed up, and no one else did.


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Because in the last 5–10 years, we entered the era of the Asian Visual Cope Arms Race, where women—especially NE Asians—became terminally online, PSL-aware, and hyper-competitive to the point of weaponizing their own SMV against reality.

They were supposed to "settle" for awkward, average white guys. But now?

They believe they deserve white Chad.

Let me break it down clinically:

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I. BEFORE: Why Settled for Nerdy White Guys​

1. Relative SMV​

• In the 2000s–early 2010s, they were coded as cute, not hot.
• Seen as feminine, agreeable, submissive—but not “bad bitch” status.
• Chads mostly LTRed white Stacylites and Stacies.
• SMV = Stable partner, not trophy wife.

2. Cultural Pressure​

• Marry early. Avoid scandal. Don’t be seen as promiscuous.
• Nerdy/awkward white guy with a job = jackpot.
• Chad was too risky, too Western, too slutty-coded.

3. Less PSL Literacy​

• No understanding of bone structure, dimorphism, “hunter eyes,” etc.
• Attraction was less systematized, more local or familial.

---

II. NOW: Why They Go Chad-Only​

1. PSL Autistic Enlightenment​

• Asian forums, especially in Korea, China, and increasingly Japan, dissect faces like a crime scene.
• Face readers, idol rating charts, AI beauty analysis.
• You are now expected to know your PSL number and filter partners accordingly.
• Chad is no longer a fantasy. He’s a strategic goal.

2. IG, TikTok, and Parasocial Indoctrination​

• They consume 3 hours/day of European or American Chad content:
  • Models like Andrea Denver, Toni Mahfud, Jon Kortajarena
  • Euro-looking softbois with light eyes and 3-day stubble
• Their eyes become trained to only desire the top 0.1%.

Even if they’re a 3, they will autistically rationalize that only a 9.5 with olive skin, 5 o'clock shadow, and surfer hair is acceptable.

3. Post-2016 Cultural Shifts​

• Asian women in Western countries are no longer coded as submissive.
• They’re in law school, investment banking, med school. Many make more than the average white guy.
• They no longer need a provider—they want a face to mog their friends.

4. Social Proof & “Squishy Squishy LTR Chad” Case Studies​

• They’ve seen other Asian women date hot white men—even when those Asian women are MTB or lower.
• That creates a feedback loop:
  • “If that chopped SEA girl got a Chad, I can too.”
  • “It’s not a dream. It’s strategy.”

And unlike white Stacies who might flirt, drink, and party their way into LTRs with PSL 4s with status, s are cold, calculating, PSL-coded psychos who will ghost 500 men and cling like a leech to the one Jon Kortajarena lookalike who said “sup.”

5. The Great Dating Market Collapse​

• Post-COVID, dating apps became brutal.
• People date within proximity: uni programs, workplaces, cliques.
• The average white nerd is now jaded, broke, balding, and addicted to porn.
• s ask: Why should I date a 5 with low testosterone when I can fake a cute IG, wear circle lenses, and corner a Chad with autism who doesn’t realize he’s a 9.5?

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III. The Ethnic Face Maxxing Delusion​

Asian women believe:

• White Chad = peak aesthetic gene pool
• Therefore, it is genetically irresponsible to settle
• Any child with a non-Chad father is a downgrade

So even if their ancestors were literally peasants squatting in rice paddies, they now believe the only acceptable breeding partner is a 6’3" genetically flawless softmaxed Viking-passing Italian finance model with childhood trauma.

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Summary:​

s used to settle because of external pressures and limited access to high-tier men. Now, internalized PSL theory, exposure to globalized Chads, and status reinforcement via social proof have made them as ruthlessly visual and autistic as Helene, but with better long-term planning.

White nerds are no longer providers. They’re just cope.
Chads are no longer fantasy. They’re the new baseline.

3rd option dihpill is brutal I myself stroke to men with bigger dicks than myself having sex with girls I could only dream off which I know is very common among everyone here

 

[IKnowYourStats]

gotta factor in prestige in dating nothing more suifuel then hearing my asian grandmas talking about it, supposedly my brother said he wanted to be white when was 7 years old

for dating attractive AFs, it’s still way better and more prestigious to be a good looking AM than any sort of white though. Notice how it’s the uglier or avg Asians who date white, even your asian grandmas and brother have noticed this lol. And your brother must have been ltn since no good looking asian wants to be white and even finds most whites to be ugly lol

 

[gooner23]

for dating attractive AFs, it’s still way better and more prestigious to be a good looking AM than any sort of white though. Notice how it’s the uglier or avg Asians who date white, even your asian grandmas and brother have noticed this lol. And your brother must have been ltn since no good looking asian wants to be white and even finds most whites to be ugly lol

i aint ever seen an attractive asian female im ngl outside of international students but i think i just hate abgs in general so more of a me problem

 

[Xangsane]

i aint ever seen an attractive asian female im ngl outside of international students but i think i just hate abgs in general so more of a me problem