The ONLY way to "skeletally" shorten Philtrum

[it_will_begin]

Short answer: a big ccw rotation, here's the proof:

This result of Raffaini really caught my attention because it shows a HUGE LF1 rotation (~17°), WITHOUT EVEN AN ADVANCEMENT:

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Notice, in the side, how the philtrum is more diagonal projected and gives the illusion of being shorter.

Front changes:

For us longmidface&longphiltrumcels this is lifefuel

+BONUS: maybe Nocturnalkent looks a bit "off" because his slightly downward growth occlusal plane? (That makes his philtrum flat and long):

Do you think this morph is realistically achievable through a bimax CCW?

 

[Lemur]

would it not be better and cheaper to just get fat grafts in the upper lip

 

[Deleted member 229985]

Short answer: a big ccw rotation, here's the proof:

This result of Raffaini really caught my attention because it shows a HUGE LF1 rotation (~17°), WITHOUT EVEN AN ADVANCEMENT:
View attachment 4664894 _ View attachment 4664832
Notice, in the side, how the philtrum is more diagonal projected and gives the illusion of being shorter.

Front changes:
View attachment 4664873
For us longmidface&longphiltrumcels this is lifefuel

+BONUS: maybe Nocturnalkent looks a bit "off" because his slightly downward growth occlusal plane? (That makes his philtrum flat and long):
View attachment 4665029
Do you think this morph is realistically achievable through a bimax CCW?

mirin

 

[iqletandrew73]

not very much of a guide but great post op

 

[it_will_begin]

not very much of a guide but great post op

yeah you're right, i've just changed to lifefuel

 

[it_will_begin]

would it not be better and cheaper to just get fat grafts in the upper lip

cheaper yeah, but bimax will always mogs all these minors surgeries if you have a structural bone issue

 

[it_will_begin]

@Foreverbrad @lurking truecel @moltisantichincel

 

[Foreverbrad]

Can’t argue with the result.

Though the occlusal plane is not ideal at all, it probably is not relevant.