the ontological proof for YOLO(There is no permanent soul),you should live in the moment,don't waiste time and hedonism reigns supreme

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if there were a permanent soul,it couldn't interact with impermanent things.

1.let's say there were a permanent part of the soul and a impermanent part,for one how could the two be coherent as an entity?

think about it,you have a permanent soul but it exerts and has impermanent efforts,wills,cognitions and sensations it also experiences,how is this possible?

it's a contradiction!two contradictorary states of being can NEVER be in unison!

it's like saying there is a unified entity,let's say a bachelor mgtow for life,but he is also married etc ot a psl 10 gigachad that's also facially a truecel.

2.if we assume a married bachelor were possible,we must ask the questions of where do the impermanent parts of the soul come from?if it comes from a fully actual and thus eternal soul,how can the permanent and thus unchanging create the impermanent and changing?


3.anything permanent would be unconditioned and thus cannot be a cause of anything because to create and sustain something requires effort in a continual sense even if it were eternally without beginning,which it means it is in time and is momentary and thus accidental and not unconditioned.

4.something unconditioned cannot interact with anything and as a famous buddhist philosopher shantideva says,would be inert.the islamic neoplatonists (Which is different from classical,as in emanationism vs monism in the latter)say the only permanent soul,the all-good knows only itself so they agree with this,but conditions and qualities are synonyms and qualities are synonyms of essences,so a thing without conditions as famous buddhist philosopher nagarjuna said,would be inert.


now we get to the real sum of this post,if when you die you are going into oblivion the obvious choice is to extert minimal effort for the highest amount of pleasure.

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Agreed with everything except using symbols of ass and drugs bringing pleasure.
 
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It won’t. He’s a madman :lul::lul::lul: I don’t engage with lunatics
dude,you're too dumb to refute me and you wouldn't even refute this:


7What then? What Israel was seeking, it failed to obtain, but the elect did. The others were hardened, 8as it is written: “God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes that could not see, and ears that could not hear, to this very day.”…Romans 11

8 Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying:

“Whom shall I send,
And who will go for Us?”

Then I said, “Here am I! Send me.”

9 And He said, “Go, and tell this people:

‘Keep on hearing, but do not understand;
Keep on seeing, but do not perceive.’

10 “Make the heart of this people dull,
And their ears heavy,
And shut their eyes;
Lest they see with their eyes,
And hear with their ears,
And understand with their heart,
And return and be healed.”


11 Then I said, “Lord, how long?”

And He answered:

“Until the cities are laid waste and without inhabitant,
The houses are without a man,
The land is utterly desolate,
12 The Lord has removed men far away,
And the forsaken places are many in the midst of the land.
13 But yet a tenth will be in it,
And will return and be for consuming,
As a terebinth tree or as an oak,
Whose stump remains when it is cut down.
So the holy seed shall be its stump.”
כא הָכִינוּ לְבָנָיו מַטְבֵּחַ, בַּעֲוֺן אֲבוֹתָם; בַּל-יָקֻמוּ וְיָרְשׁוּ אָרֶץ, וּמָלְאוּ פְנֵי-תֵבֵל עָרִים. 21 Prepare ye slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they rise not up, and possess the earth, and fill the face of the world with cities.
כב וְקַמְתִּי עֲלֵיהֶם, נְאֻם יְהוָה צְבָאוֹת; וְהִכְרַתִּי לְבָבֶל שֵׁם וּשְׁאָר, וְנִין וָנֶכֶד--נְאֻם-יְהוָה. 22 And I will rise up against them, saith the LORD of hosts, and cut off from Babylon name and remnant, and offshoot and offspring, saith the LORD.

כו וָאֲטַמֵּא אוֹתָם בְּמַתְּנוֹתָם, בְּהַעֲבִיר כָּל-פֶּטֶר רָחַם: לְמַעַן אֲשִׁמֵּם--לְמַעַן אֲשֶׁר יֵדְעוּ, אֲשֶׁר אֲנִי יְהוָה. {ס} 26 and I polluted them in their own gifts, in that they set apart all that openeth the womb, that I might destroy them, to the end that they might know that I am the LORD. {S}

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

I will feed those who oppress you with their own flesh, And they shall be drunk with their own blood as with sweet wine. All flesh shall know That I, the LORD, am your Savior, And your Redeemer, the Mighty One of Jacob.

DON'T THE PENTECOSTALS SAY THAT IF YOU DRINK COCA COLA OR EAT MCDONALDFS YOURE GOING TO HELL BECAUSE CANNIBALISM IS A SIN?AND THEY ALLEGE THESE HAVE HUMAN PARTS IN THEM?
For we do not have a high priest who is unable to empathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are—yet he did not sin.

(NOTE:TO BE TEMPTED IS TO BE LED BY THE DEVIL ACCORDING TO JAMES,COVETING SINS IS A SIN AND JESUS COVETED SINS BY BEING TEMPTED)

[9] And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the LORD have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel.
If one reads Jeremiah 23:39 nobody would see anything wrong with the verse. One would not even look over it again and just skip over the next verse. But if we read what is written in the Hebrew language and the word that is used, you would be shocked how the Bible translations all cover up the actual meaning for the passage. All Bible translations for Jeremiah 23:39 have this:

King James 2000 Bible Jeremiah 23:39 Therefore, behold, I, even I, will utterly forget (Nasha) you, and I will forsake you, and the city that I gave you and your fathers, and cast you out of my presence:

The Hebrew word ‘Nasha’ has the following meanings:

  • 1) to beguile, deceive
  • A)(Niphal) to be beguiled
  • B)(Hiphil) to beguile, deceive
  • C)(Qal) utterly (infinitive)
As you have read the word ‘Nasha’ means deceive, beguile and so forth. But when we read English Bible translations for Jer. 23:39 all of them use the word ‘forget?’ Why don’t they give the true meaning, why do they have distort the verse and lie to people? Let’s now bring forth evidence from Hebrew Lexicons for the word ‘Nasha’ and see what the true meaning is. Before we proceed further let’s first show The Hebrew word “Nasha” :

Hebrew word Nasha for Jeremiah 23 39

As you seen the picture I have put a red arrow what the Hebrew ‘Nasha’ looks like. Hebrew Lexicons on the word ‘Nasha’.

Professor Edward Robinson
Nasha1 [10]

Francis Brown


Hebrew Word Nasha [11]

William Robertson

Hebrew word Nasha
If one reads the above picture where I have highlighted in yellow George Wigram connects the Hebrew word ‘Nasha’ to Jeremiah 23:39. It’s clear from all the above references that Yahweh admits that he deceives people.

Professor Mark Roncace comments on Jeremiah 23:39, says the following,

“The word… itself has certain connotations and echoes in the book of Jeremiah where it appears four other times (4:10; 23:39; 29:8; 49:16). In 4:10 the prophet accuses Yahweh of deception by promising peace and then bringing destruction. Thus, one would as John calvin suggested see the withdrawal of Babylonians as ‘God for a time permit[ting]’ the people ‘to be deceived by fortunate event’ (Commentaries on the Book of the Prophet Jeremiah and the Lamentations [ed. And trans. John Owen; 5 vols.; Grand rapids: Eerdmans, 1950], 4:367). In fact, in 23:39 Yahweh declares ‘I will deceive (Nasha) you and cast you away from my presence.’ One wonders if deception originates within oneself, as 37:9 suggests, or with Yahweh?” [15]

It is clear crystal from all this evidence that Yahweh is a deceiver. When the verse (Jeremiah 23:39) is not distorted, it reads like this:

Jeremiah 23:39 Therefore, behold, I, even I, will utterly DECEIVE (Nasha) you, and I will forsake you, and the city that I gave you and your fathers, and cast you out of my presence.

so yahweh IS A COVETOUS UNHOLY DECEPTIVE UNJUST 'GOD'

Isaiah 19:14

The LORD has poured into them a spirit of dizziness; they make Egypt stagger in all that she does, as a drunkard staggers around in his vomit.

Here, we see God deceiving people to the extent that they become absolutely foolish.
John 16:25

25"Though I have been speaking figuratively (paroimia), a time is coming when I will no longer use this kind of language but will tell you plainly about my Father.

The word paroimia could mean:

1) a saying out of the usual course or deviating from the usual manner of speaking

a) a current or trite saying, a proverb

2) any dark saying which shadows forth some didactic truth

a) esp. a symbolic or figurative saying

b) speech or discourse in which a thing is illustrated by the use of similes and comparisons

c) an allegory

1) extended and elaborate metaphor

Source: http://www.blueletterbible.org/tmp_dir/words/3/1146511128-5176.html

Why wasn't Jesus always speaking in a normal and clear way? Why did Jesus then say that he won't 'use this kind of language'?

Well, here we find out why:

Mark 4:10-12

10When he was alone, the Twelve and the others around him asked him about the parables. 11He told them, "The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables 12so that," 'they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!'

So here we see that Jesus was deceiving certain people by speaking in parables so they wouldn't (and God forbid!) REPENT AND BE FORGIVEN!
 
dude,you're too dumb to refute me and you wouldn't even refute this:


7What then? What Israel was seeking, it failed to obtain, but the elect did. The others were hardened, 8as it is written: “God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes that could not see, and ears that could not hear, to this very day.”…Romans 11

8 Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying:

“Whom shall I send,
And who will go for Us?”

Then I said, “Here am I! Send me.”

9 And He said, “Go, and tell this people:

‘Keep on hearing, but do not understand;
Keep on seeing, but do not perceive.’

10 “Make the heart of this people dull,
And their ears heavy,
And shut their eyes;
Lest they see with their eyes,
And hear with their ears,
And understand with their heart,
And return and be healed.”


11 Then I said, “Lord, how long?”

And He answered:

“Until the cities are laid waste and without inhabitant,
The houses are without a man,
The land is utterly desolate,
12 The Lord has removed men far away,
And the forsaken places are many in the midst of the land.
13 But yet a tenth will be in it,
And will return and be for consuming,
As a terebinth tree or as an oak,
Whose stump remains when it is cut down.
So the holy seed shall be its stump.”
כא הָכִינוּ לְבָנָיו מַטְבֵּחַ, בַּעֲוֺן אֲבוֹתָם; בַּל-יָקֻמוּ וְיָרְשׁוּ אָרֶץ, וּמָלְאוּ פְנֵי-תֵבֵל עָרִים. 21 Prepare ye slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they rise not up, and possess the earth, and fill the face of the world with cities.
כב וְקַמְתִּי עֲלֵיהֶם, נְאֻם יְהוָה צְבָאוֹת; וְהִכְרַתִּי לְבָבֶל שֵׁם וּשְׁאָר, וְנִין וָנֶכֶד--נְאֻם-יְהוָה. 22 And I will rise up against them, saith the LORD of hosts, and cut off from Babylon name and remnant, and offshoot and offspring, saith the LORD.

כו וָאֲטַמֵּא אוֹתָם בְּמַתְּנוֹתָם, בְּהַעֲבִיר כָּל-פֶּטֶר רָחַם: לְמַעַן אֲשִׁמֵּם--לְמַעַן אֲשֶׁר יֵדְעוּ, אֲשֶׁר אֲנִי יְהוָה. {ס} 26 and I polluted them in their own gifts, in that they set apart all that openeth the womb, that I might destroy them, to the end that they might know that I am the LORD. {S}

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

I will feed those who oppress you with their own flesh, And they shall be drunk with their own blood as with sweet wine. All flesh shall know That I, the LORD, am your Savior, And your Redeemer, the Mighty One of Jacob.

DON'T THE PENTECOSTALS SAY THAT IF YOU DRINK COCA COLA OR EAT MCDONALDFS YOURE GOING TO HELL BECAUSE CANNIBALISM IS A SIN?AND THEY ALLEGE THESE HAVE HUMAN PARTS IN THEM?
For we do not have a high priest who is unable to empathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are—yet he did not sin.

(NOTE:TO BE TEMPTED IS TO BE LED BY THE DEVIL ACCORDING TO JAMES,COVETING SINS IS A SIN AND JESUS COVETED SINS BY BEING TEMPTED)

[9] And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the LORD have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel.
If one reads Jeremiah 23:39 nobody would see anything wrong with the verse. One would not even look over it again and just skip over the next verse. But if we read what is written in the Hebrew language and the word that is used, you would be shocked how the Bible translations all cover up the actual meaning for the passage. All Bible translations for Jeremiah 23:39 have this:

King James 2000 Bible Jeremiah 23:39 Therefore, behold, I, even I, will utterly forget (Nasha) you, and I will forsake you, and the city that I gave you and your fathers, and cast you out of my presence:

The Hebrew word ‘Nasha’ has the following meanings:

  • 1) to beguile, deceive
  • A)(Niphal) to be beguiled
  • B)(Hiphil) to beguile, deceive
  • C)(Qal) utterly (infinitive)
As you have read the word ‘Nasha’ means deceive, beguile and so forth. But when we read English Bible translations for Jer. 23:39 all of them use the word ‘forget?’ Why don’t they give the true meaning, why do they have distort the verse and lie to people? Let’s now bring forth evidence from Hebrew Lexicons for the word ‘Nasha’ and see what the true meaning is. Before we proceed further let’s first show The Hebrew word “Nasha” :

Hebrew word Nasha for Jeremiah 23 39

As you seen the picture I have put a red arrow what the Hebrew ‘Nasha’ looks like. Hebrew Lexicons on the word ‘Nasha’.

Professor Edward Robinson
Nasha1[10]

Francis Brown


Hebrew Word Nasha [11]

William Robertson

Hebrew word Nasha
If one reads the above picture where I have highlighted in yellow George Wigram connects the Hebrew word ‘Nasha’ to Jeremiah 23:39. It’s clear from all the above references that Yahweh admits that he deceives people.

Professor Mark Roncace comments on Jeremiah 23:39, says the following,

“The word… itself has certain connotations and echoes in the book of Jeremiah where it appears four other times (4:10; 23:39; 29:8; 49:16). In 4:10 the prophet accuses Yahweh of deception by promising peace and then bringing destruction. Thus, one would as John calvin suggested see the withdrawal of Babylonians as ‘God for a time permit[ting]’ the people ‘to be deceived by fortunate event’ (Commentaries on the Book of the Prophet Jeremiah and the Lamentations [ed. And trans. John Owen; 5 vols.; Grand rapids: Eerdmans, 1950], 4:367). In fact, in 23:39 Yahweh declares ‘I will deceive (Nasha) you and cast you away from my presence.’ One wonders if deception originates within oneself, as 37:9 suggests, or with Yahweh?” [15]

It is clear crystal from all this evidence that Yahweh is a deceiver. When the verse (Jeremiah 23:39) is not distorted, it reads like this:

Jeremiah 23:39 Therefore, behold, I, even I, will utterly DECEIVE (Nasha) you, and I will forsake you, and the city that I gave you and your fathers, and cast you out of my presence.

so yahweh IS A COVETOUS UNHOLY DECEPTIVE UNJUST 'GOD'

Isaiah 19:14

The LORD has poured into them a spirit of dizziness; they make Egypt stagger in all that she does, as a drunkard staggers around in his vomit.

Here, we see God deceiving people to the extent that they become absolutely foolish.
John 16:25

25"Though I have been speaking figuratively (paroimia), a time is coming when I will no longer use this kind of language but will tell you plainly about my Father.

The word paroimia could mean:

1) a saying out of the usual course or deviating from the usual manner of speaking

a) a current or trite saying, a proverb

2) any dark saying which shadows forth some didactic truth

a) esp. a symbolic or figurative saying

b) speech or discourse in which a thing is illustrated by the use of similes and comparisons

c) an allegory

1) extended and elaborate metaphor

Source: http://www.blueletterbible.org/tmp_dir/words/3/1146511128-5176.html

Why wasn't Jesus always speaking in a normal and clear way? Why did Jesus then say that he won't 'use this kind of language'?

Well, here we find out why:

Mark 4:10-12

10When he was alone, the Twelve and the others around him asked him about the parables. 11He told them, "The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables 12so that," 'they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!'

So here we see that Jesus was deceiving certain people by speaking in parables so they wouldn't (and God forbid!) REPENT AND BE FORGIVEN!
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