The poor and rich are actually different races...

[disillusioned]

This is something I've thought about...

So called 'race realists' keep bringing up disparity of appearance and IQ differences, yet one could just as easily point out those very same kind of differences between the rich 1% and the lesser social classes.

Appearance wise there are obvious physical differences, with the poor being mostly ugly and crude looking (ib4 the 'not all' strawman) and the wealthy being better looking on average. There are also massive IQ disparities between income classes:

The incredible correlation between IQ & income

In this post, I summarize all that I have learned about the actual test scores of different income levels. In particular, I compare actual psychometric data of seven U.S. economic classes: (1) the…

pumpkinperson.com

Personality and behavior is also different, with the poor being more loud, impulsive, obnoxious etc.

It's also been demonstrated that all of these things are mostly hereditary.

So what makes the rich and poor the same species of humans, then? How do they not qualify as separate races? And don't say skin color because in the past europeans have regarded different sub-groups of europeans as their own distinct races.

 

[Deleted member 4612]

Why wouldn't men and women qualify as different races then, if their physical appearances and behaviors were different?

 

[BigJimsWornOutTires]

This is something I've thought about...

So called 'race realists' keep bringing up disparity of appearance and IQ differences, yet one could just as easily point out those very same kind of differences between the rich 1% and the lesser social classes.

Appearance wise there are obvious physical differences, with the poor being mostly ugly and crude looking (ib4 the 'not all' strawman) and the wealthy being better looking on average. There are also massive IQ disparities between income classes:

The incredible correlation between IQ & income

In this post, I summarize all that I have learned about the actual test scores of different income levels. In particular, I compare actual psychometric data of seven U.S. economic classes: (1) the…

pumpkinperson.com

Personality and behavior is also different, with the poor being more loud, impulsive, obnoxious etc.

It's also been demonstrated that all of these things are mostly hereditary.

So what makes the rich and poor the same species of humans, then? How do they not qualify as separate races? And don't say skin color because in the past europeans have regarded different sub-groups of europeans as their own distinct races.

This is true. Wealth and poor are two entirely different species. HOWEVER. If you're rich and black, whites from both classes treat you the same. Especially, cops. Its normal procedure to pull over anyone that's black. But being white, as to my privilege, not so. Although, I've had run-ins with the law.

 

[disillusioned]

Why wouldn't men and women qualify as different races then, if their physical appearances and behaviors were different?

Flawed comparison. Gender is it's own category.

This is true. Wealth and poor are two entirely different species. HOWEVER. If you're rich and black, whites from both classes treat you the same. Especially, cops. Its normal procedure to pull over anyone that's black. But being white, as to my privilege, not so. Although, I've had run-ins with the law.

There aren't many rich blacks in the first place, though.

 

[Danish_Retard]

So what makes the rich and poor the same species of humans, then? How do they not qualify as separate races?

Retard tier question.

"In biological taxonomy, race is an informal rank in the taxonomic hierarchy for which various definitions exist. Sometimes it is used to denote a level below that of subspecies, while at other times it is used as a synonym for subspecies.[1] It has been used as a higher rank than strain, with several strains making up one race.[2][3] Races may be genetically distinct populations of individuals within the same species,[4] or they may be defined in other ways, e.g. geographically, or physiologically.[5] Genetic isolation between races is not complete, but genetic differences may have accumulated that are not (yet) sufficient to separate species.[6]"

 

[Deleted member 11675]

There aren't many rich blacks in the first place, though.

but there are a lot of rich indians in states tho, i mean most of them earn 6 figs just like joos.

 

[disillusioned]

Retard tier question.

"In biological taxonomy, race is an informal rank in the taxonomic hierarchy for which various definitions exist. Sometimes it is used to denote a level below that of subspecies, while at other times it is used as a synonym for subspecies.[1] It has been used as a higher rank than strain, with several strains making up one race.[2][3] Races may be genetically distinct populations of individuals within the same species,[4] or they may be defined in other ways, e.g. geographically, or physiologically.[5] Genetic isolation between races is not complete, but genetic differences may have accumulated that are not (yet) sufficient to separate species.[6]"

Jfl the disparity in behavior and intelligence and even personality between the richest 10% and poorest 10% are easily enough to make them not the same species. This is like saying dogs are the same species because they are 'just dogs' lmao. Which btw is an actual real argument retarded progressives make.

 

[Deleted member 8202]

This is something I've thought about...

So called 'race realists' keep bringing up disparity of appearance and IQ differences, yet one could just as easily point out those very same kind of differences between the rich 1% and the lesser social classes.

Appearance wise there are obvious physical differences, with the poor being mostly ugly and crude looking (ib4 the 'not all' strawman) and the wealthy being better looking on average. There are also massive IQ disparities between income classes:

The incredible correlation between IQ & income

In this post, I summarize all that I have learned about the actual test scores of different income levels. In particular, I compare actual psychometric data of seven U.S. economic classes: (1) the…

pumpkinperson.com

Personality and behavior is also different, with the poor being more loud, impulsive, obnoxious etc.

It's also been demonstrated that all of these things are mostly hereditary.

So what makes the rich and poor the same species of humans, then? How do they not qualify as separate races? And don't say skin color because in the past europeans have regarded different sub-groups of europeans as their own distinct races.

Dude this is so fucking true. If you visit the "white trash" type areas in the US and then go to some middle-upper class white suburb, even though both are technically "white", you'll see they're 2 completely distinct phenotypes. I have UK friends who say it's the same thing over there. Lower class and upper class people have completely different phenos (with upper class being much more attractive and intelligent)

 

[disillusioned]

Dude this is so fucking true. If you visit the "white trash" type areas in the US and then go to some middle-upper class white suburb, even though both are technically "white", you'll see they're 2 completely distinct phenotypes. I have UK friends who say it's the same thing over there. Lower class and upper class people have completely different phenos (with upper class being much more attractive and intelligent)

As race mixing between the lower classes increases at the same time the higher classes remain homogeneous (they rarely race mix), the disparity will only become even more extreme. Jfl we might eventually have a situation where the upper classes are all fair skinned supermen with great looks and high IQ while everybody else just slowly devolves into literal orcs.

 

[Deleted member 275]

Dude this is so fucking true. If you visit the "white trash" type areas in the US and then go to some middle-upper class white suburb, even though both are technically "white", you'll see they're 2 completely distinct phenotypes. I have UK friends who say it's the same thing over there. Lower class and upper class people have completely different phenos (with upper class being much more attractive and intelligent)

correlation isnt causation.

if you are ugly asf, you are at a serious disadvantage in life, and get discriminated against in school and job environments. So you are more likely to end up poor and trashy.

 

[disillusioned]

correlation isnt causation.

if you are ugly asf, you are at a serious disadvantage in life, and get discriminated against in school and job environments. So you are more likely to end up poor and trashy.

...and then you end up marrying and having children with other ugly people who ended up in the same position as you for the same reason, who's children then generally will have the same shitty life that you did...until all the uglies with the low IQ are concentrated in mostly the same social class, and so have become their own 'race'.

This is what is known as 'divergent evolution', and is how races are born.

 

[Deleted member 12234]

This is true. Wealth and poor are two entirely different species. HOWEVER. If you're rich and black, whites from both classes treat you the same. Especially, cops. Its normal procedure to pull over anyone that's black. But being white, as to my privilege, not so. Although, I've had run-ins with the law.

Def not true. I think it entirely depends on 1. your location and 2. how you present yourself. I've had the chance to experience alot of different perspectives. Used to live in several hoods/impoverished neighborhoods and lived in middle class ones too. Some were mixed, some majority black, and some majority white. I've noticed that places with alot of older people, in general, are much more chill. Like when I lived in florida, I used to live around a decent amount of older white people and they were pretty chill and treated me well. Like when I went for jogs or bike rides, i didn't feel out of place since everyone waved at me and treated me like a regular person lol. On the other hand, i've been in hoods where I would dress more "urban" and got discriminated against by some white people but mainly asians. Asians are more racist than white people and alot of people don't realize it lol. Asians seclude themselves from society, in general, so their exposure to black people is super low. Atleast white people are very exposed to them so they know alot of the stereotypes aren't true, especially in mixed cities/areas.

 

[Deleted member 8853]

Why wouldn't men and women qualify as different races then, if their physical appearances and behaviors were different?

Being born male is a genetic disorder

 

[BigJimsWornOutTires]

Def not true. I think it entirely depends on 1. your location and 2. how you present yourself. I've had the chance to experience alot of different perspectives. Used to live in several hoods/impoverished neighborhoods and lived in middle class ones too. Some were mixed, some majority black, and some majority white. I've noticed that places with alot of older people, in general, are much more chill. Like when I lived in florida, I used to live around a decent amount of older white people and they were pretty chill and treated me well. Like when I went for jogs or bike rides, i didn't feel out of place since everyone waved at me and treated me like a regular person lol. On the other hand, i've been in hoods where I would dress more "urban" and got discriminated against by some white people but mainly asians. Asians are more racist than white people and alot of people don't realize it lol. Asians seclude themselves from society, in general, so their exposure to black people is super low. Atleast white people are very exposed to them so they know alot of the stereotypes aren't true, especially in mixed cities/areas.

I keep hearing about that. All this tension between "you people" and those dragon parasites. Ugh. It seems you're not getting along with one another here. Perhaps we should move more Asians into black populated areas and see if we can find a truce here. Maybe nail up advertising posters of dragon guys with black women knelling at his feet. And give them incentives, or tax breaks, if they move into those areas.

 

[loksr]

idk, being gl is already pretty rare in its self, from what I've observed everybody, rich or poor (Not counting celebrities and models obviously, they're rich BECAUSE they're gl, talking about people born into wealthy families), is just normie level (But obviously someone who's rich is more likely to have ideal development, maybe there's more HTN rich and more LTN poor)
IQ differences, sure, fair enough

 

[Uglybrazilian]

No shit people with higher IQ do better on a capitalist society

Thats not enough to separate people on races tho, let alone species

Another insane thread from a insane user.

 

[disillusioned]

No shit people with higher IQ do better on a capitalist society

Thats not enough to separate people on races tho, let alone species

Another insane thread from a insane user.

It's not just IQ difference. Even just looks wise most working class/poor people look like fucking shit. At the local convience store where I live EVERY SINGLE PERSON working there, and I mean literally ALL of them, are sub-5. Nobody there looks even just average. None.

 

[brianxx]

What you say can only be true in countries with stable political environment.

In countries like China or Vietnam, many billionaires are just nouveau riche, that gained wealth from the political change. Many of them are super rich but still look and behave like peasants.

 

[Uglybrazilian]

It's not just IQ difference. Even just looks wise most working class/poor people look like fucking shit. At the local convience store where I live EVERY SINGLE PERSON working there, and I mean literally ALL of them, are sub-5. Nobody there looks even just average. None.

Beauty is equally divided among all classes. But with the coming of private property, the higher classes tended to acumulate beauty(just like anything else) since any ugly rich farmer had enough smv to make tons of kids with good looking poor women. That would be probably solved on an environment in which money is not so much of a decisive factor in SMV, as its already happening in some european countries. As for IQ differences, even tho you are right on guessing that the higher classes have above average IQ, still its foolish to think that the top 1% in wealth is also the top 1% in IQ. Most niggas with turbo high IQ are very far from the top 1% in wealth(Einstein,Newton etc none of them were as rich as the nigga who invented flappy bird). There is no reason to think that someone is racially superior just because he is on top 1%.

 

[disillusioned]

Beauty is equally divided among all classes.

The hell they are. Look at Indian upper castes vs lower castes lmao they don't even look like the same race whatsoever.

 

[Uglybrazilian]

The hell they are. Look at Indian upper castes vs lower castes lmao they don't even look like the same race whatsoever.

They are literally not the same race tho, thats a different case

 

[disillusioned]

They are literally not the same race tho, thats a different case

Soon it will be the same everywhere: A rich fair skinned upper class with high IQ and a large ugly underclass consisting of third world ruffians.

Tbh

 

[Deleted member 12344]

Retard tier question.

"In biological taxonomy, race is an informal rank in the taxonomic hierarchy for which various definitions exist. Sometimes it is used to denote a level below that of subspecies, while at other times it is used as a synonym for subspecies.[1] It has been used as a higher rank than strain, with several strains making up one race.[2][3] Races may be genetically distinct populations of individuals within the same species,[4] or they may be defined in other ways, e.g. geographically, or physiologically.[5] Genetic isolation between races is not complete, but genetic differences may have accumulated that are not (yet) sufficient to separate species.[6]"

Do you think op doesnt know that danish retard

 

[Deleted member 9467]

It is also possible that the constant stress or epigenetics from generations of stress causes the ugliness, but good thread

 

[Nothinginparticular]

This is something I've thought about...

So called 'race realists' keep bringing up disparity of appearance and IQ differences, yet one could just as easily point out those very same kind of differences between the rich 1% and the lesser social classes.

Appearance wise there are obvious physical differences, with the poor being mostly ugly and crude looking (ib4 the 'not all' strawman) and the wealthy being better looking on average. There are also massive IQ disparities between income classes:

The incredible correlation between IQ & income

In this post, I summarize all that I have learned about the actual test scores of different income levels. In particular, I compare actual psychometric data of seven U.S. economic classes: (1) the…

pumpkinperson.com

Personality and behavior is also different, with the poor being more loud, impulsive, obnoxious etc.

It's also been demonstrated that all of these things are mostly hereditary.

So what makes the rich and poor the same species of humans, then? How do they not qualify as separate races? And don't say skin color because in the past europeans have regarded different sub-groups of europeans as their own distinct races.

Holy shit this is retarded. Clearly you’ve never heard of epigenetics or allostaric load, let alone the actual definition of speciation.

It’s pretty well-known that greater exposure to environmental stressors can literally change one’s neuroendocrine/hormonal profile which contributes to both their physical and behavioral traits. The epigenetic changes exerted by other things more common to the poor such as increased prenatal exposure to nicotine or adrenal overload can contribute to facial asymmetry and minor facial abnormalities.

That doesn’t mean, however, that they are a different “race”, since most of the actual genetic variants they carry are similar in frequency to those of the rich.

I know you’re too low IQ to carry out proper research, but while there have been genome-wide associate studies that have looked for genetic differences based on economic strata, The only variants found that were statistically significantly related to wealth were, quite predictably, related to intelligence.

However this difference, while significant, is too small to actually carry strong predictive power, meaning the rich and poor are more similar than different in terms of which variants they carry, so no, they aren’t anywhere near being “a diFFerNT sPeciEs.” Look up what actually qualifies as speciation. Slight genetic variation between groups that still interbreed frequently certainly isn’t it.

Also anecdotally I don’t at all notice your observation. The only big phsyical difference I’ve noticed with western poor people is that they are fatter, which is obviously due to their worse diets and lifestyles. They also smoke more and do more outdoor labor, which ages them rapidly. The prenatal exposure to more chemicals and stress also might influence the craniofacial structure and metabolism of poor people’s offspring.

Keep making stupid threads about “muh genes” though.

honestly just kys OP.