The power of jaw angle implants

[key]

According to this person, it was chin + jaw angles.

Before

After

 

[ltn_looksminner]

i get it but the second picture is so frauded compared to the first

 

[key]

i get it but the second picture is so frauded compared to the first

Better lighting, better skin, fresh haircut, squintmaxxing for less scleral show, maybe lost a little weight?

But all of that would be negligible if it weren't for the implants.

 

[kingofkings]

What's the frontal view like though. That's the real money shot

 

[greycel]

Question is how does he look from the front?

 

[Xx_gloomy_bison_xX]

Who is the surgeon?
Also I dont think it looks natural it kinda looks too heavy/bulky on edges. It doesnt follow the natural jawline with subtle tapering at the end. Edges should be slightly sharper and less accentuated. According to his lateral lines something nicer and more natural would be like this;

 

[lurking truecel]

Who is the surgeon?
Also I dont think it looks natural it kinda looks too heavy/bulky on edges. It doesnt follow the natural jawline with subtle tapering at the end. Edges should be slightly sharper and less accentuated. According to his lateral lines something nicer and more natural would be like this;

Authism

 

[lurking truecel]

Who is the surgeon?
Also I dont think it looks natural it kinda looks too heavy/bulky on edges. It doesnt follow the natural jawline with subtle tapering at the end. Edges should be slightly sharper and less accentuated. According to his lateral lines something nicer and more natural would be like this;

Giant

 

[key]

Who is the surgeon?
Also I dont think it looks natural it kinda looks too heavy/bulky on edges. It doesnt follow the natural jawline with subtle tapering at the end. Edges should be slightly sharper and less accentuated. According to his lateral lines something nicer and more natural would be like this;

Surgery is an imitation of nature. But you're right, his results are un-natural because he used off the shelf silicone implants. An improvement regardless, surgeon was Julian De Silva.

Giant

Giant would've done a better job, these we're silicone

Question is how does he look from the front?

What's the frontal view like though. That's the real money shot

True, front is law. Not sure tho, only saw side.

 

[lurking truecel]

Surgery is an imitation of nature. But you're right, his results are un-natural because he used off the shelf silicone implants. An improvement regardless, surgeon was Julian De Silva.


Giant would've done a better job, these we're off silicone



True, front is law. Not sure tho, only saw side.

Some cuck said giant somewhere

 

[greycel]

Who is the surgeon?
Also I dont think it looks natural it kinda looks too heavy/bulky on edges. It doesnt follow the natural jawline with subtle tapering at the end. Edges should be slightly sharper and less accentuated. According to his lateral lines something nicer and more natural would be like this;

Do you think this bulky appearance is strictly due to his masseters?
I think his jaw looks natural personally.
Maybe the issue is with the ramus and jaw definition for somebody of that jaw shape is rare. Most people who do possess it (especially the ramus), have a more acute jaw angle + flatter manidbular to floor angle

True, front is law. Not sure tho, only saw side.

Reason I ask for sides is, I feel the biggest overlooked issue that arises from jaw implants (aesthetically), is the lip width to bigonial width ratio
Bizygo to Bigonial generally allows enough room for no aesthetic defects

 

[Xx_gloomy_bison_xX]

Do you think this bulky appearance is strictly due to his masseters?
I think his jaw looks natural personally.
Maybe the issue is with the ramus and jaw definition for somebody of that jaw shape is rare. Most people who do possess it (especially the ramus), have a more acute jaw angle + flatter manidbular to floor angle

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Reason I ask for sides is, I feel the biggest overlooked issue that arises from jaw implants (aesthetically), is the lip width to bigonial width ratio
Bizygo to Bigonial generally allows enough room for no aesthetic defects

Interesting take for sure I never thought about it from lip aspect. However you can't overlook importance of bizygo line vs bigonial line. If gonion are too flared than you look very uncanny. Look at all male models. Very few have such bloated outward projected jaw edges!

This guy above has great side profile ideal philtrum with gonion edges slightly smaller than zygo edges. His gonions are gently sharp and visible yet elegant with curvature, gracefully complimenting his face.

This guy above is still ok but started to linger around uncanny territory. Not a harmonious fusion of pretty boy/chad like the former guy but more masculine with a pinch of ogremaxx salt, yet still acceptable by universally recognized PSL metrics. If you look at his gonions they expand more to all sides (toward ears, toward ground and toward lateral sides), threatening the ideal face

Now this guy above, who is certainly very good looking thanks to his harmony, lips, hair and eye, has gonions proturding like the wing tips of Boeing jet. Don't get me wrong he is undisputably handsome yet his gonions are off. Also if you look at his sides it has the similar bulky texture that the patient has.

All in all jaw implants shouldnt be just like lego that increases the bone but rather should be like a subtle coating that gently accentuates the existing jaw for natural and attractive results. Critical Insight; Distance between bottom of ear and gonion tip shouldnt be too far or too close!

I am adding more interetsing and inspring pics from my meticulously curated chad library for further scrutiny for the interested users!

Unfortunately lazy, money hungry and poorly skilled plastic surgeons are not providing ideal services. They are terrified of innovation or thinking outside box. They are paralyzed by thinking "what if I try something new and one in a billion complication happens and I am litigated for malpractice".

 

[LEFORT17]

What's the frontal view like though. That's the real money shot

i mean it can only be better no?

 

[lurking truecel]

Do you think this bulky appearance is strictly due to his masseters?
I think his jaw looks natural personally.
Maybe the issue is with the ramus and jaw definition for somebody of that jaw shape is rare. Most people who do possess it (especially the ramus), have a more acute jaw angle + flatter manidbular to floor angle

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Reason I ask for sides is, I feel the biggest overlooked issue that arises from jaw implants (aesthetically), is the lip width to bigonial width ratio
Bizygo to Bigonial generally allows enough room for no aesthetic defects

I mean the only reason ehy this dude looks off is his lips, typical filler look

 

[lurking truecel]

i mean it can only be better no?

Def not, most jaw angles make you look bloated from front, thats why it usually sucks

 

[LEFORT17]

Def not, most jaw angles make you look bloated from front, thats why it usually sucks

Can u show an example

 

[lurking truecel]

Can u show an example

Just google, and also i have seen some in pms which i dont share

 

[Deleted member 137749]

Def not, most jaw angles make you look bloated from front, thats why it usually sucks

Do you know if it can happen even with good design and just adding volume as low as possible? What scares me the most are masseter issues tbh , just on this forum i could find like 10 users that had this issue lol

 

[yeeyeeass69]

According to this person, it was chin + jaw angles.

Before

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After
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His side profile is beautiful in that 2nd pic, chad

 

[lurking truecel]

Do you know if it can happen even with good design and just adding volume as low as possible? What scares me the most are masseter issues tbh , just on this forum i could find like 10 users that had this issue lol

Its more to it then just masseter, but thats a huge problem. But its also how the skin Redrapes in a worse way for some people creating more jowl like appearence. Much of this procedures needs to be accompanied by other soft tissue procedures. But it becomes expensive real fast and big chance of it looking to much

 

[Xx_gloomy_bison_xX]

Do you know if it can happen even with good design and just adding volume as low as possible? What scares me the most are masseter issues tbh , just on this forum i could find like 10 users that had this issue lol

What do you mean by massetar issues like bloated look given by massetars? There are botox options which may or may not help or massetar reduction surgeries. Interestingly slightly visible but not bloated massetars give masculine attractive look in most men, assuming that it won't look plumpy

 

[LEFORT17]

Its more to it then just masseter, but thats a huge problem. But its also how the skin Redrapes in a worse way for some people creating more jowl like appearence. Much of this procedures needs to be accompanied by other soft tissue procedures. But it becomes expensive real fast and big chance of it looking to much

ur making me overthink the idea of getting them

 

[lurking truecel]

ur making me overthink the idea of getting them

If you have even slightly decent jaw in width etc, i wouldnt do it. But if you have a trash jaw it cant really get worse, so it can be a good option

 

[LEFORT17]

If you have even slightly decent jaw in width etc, i wouldnt do it. But if you have a trash jaw it cant really get worse, so it can be a good option

realistically i really dont need them. would conservative implants improve? id say yeah

 

[kana]

Do you think this bulky appearance is strictly due to his masseters?
I think his jaw looks natural personally.
Maybe the issue is with the ramus and jaw definition for somebody of that jaw shape is rare. Most people who do possess it (especially the ramus), have a more acute jaw angle + flatter manidbular to floor angle

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Reason I ask for sides is, I feel the biggest overlooked issue that arises from jaw implants (aesthetically), is the lip width to bigonial width ratio
Bizygo to Bigonial generally allows enough room for no aesthetic defects

Robert Pattinson or whatever his name is has very large masseters, noted lack of "hollowness" from his side profile, and the overly square appearance of the ramus, compared to the surgery patient on the left. The only noticeable difference between these two is their masseter muscle size. I can confirm this claim ... As post masseter botox, my side profile went from being very boxy and more noticeably (the ramus being nearly parallel to my chin) to giving a more slender and hollow appearance.

 

[Deleted member 137749]

What do you mean by massetar issues like bloated look given by massetars? There are botox options which may or may not help or massetar reduction surgeries. Interestingly slightly visible but not bloated massetars give masculine attractive look in most men, assuming that it won't look plumpy

Dehiscence , i'm considering them for mainly taller ramus and that's where you'll most likely get it. I'll get fillers and call it a day idc if they will bloat tbh still higher roi than implants considering all the risks. But ye in an ideal world implants mog.

 

[zemult]

Def not, most jaw angles make you look bloated from front, thats why it usually sucks

Isn't it the opposite? I'm pretty sure jaw wraparounds tend to have that effect more than angles. My jaw angle looks great from side prof but front prof I have a narrowish jaw due to wide zygos so I've been planning for jaw angles to widen the gonions a bit

 

[lurking truecel]

realistically i really dont need them. would conservative implants improve? id say yeah

I mean this pic shows why its bad, you obv need to either detach the muscle and try to reattach it to the implant, which just doesnt look good and makes it more bulky, or you simply place it over and tear the muscle apart. Jaw angles was allways a bad idea untill the day we find some way to make the muscle reattachment better.

A clearer pic of the muscle, obv placing a implant there will screw up with hiw the muscle look

 

[Xx_gloomy_bison_xX]

Dehiscence , i'm considering them for mainly taller ramus and that's where you'll most likely get it. I'll get fillers and call it a day idc if they will bloat tbh still higher roi than implants considering all the risks. But ye in an ideal world implants mog.

What about parotid glands? They may also need to be checked