The Primal Diet: Is Raw Meat Actually Worth It?

We should gatekeep this information, just like the elites do. Having the masses walk around enlightened on this would be a nightmare and most things that start here go mainstream.

There's not enough high quality food to go around for everyone. The slaves must continue to eat grain.
possibly it would be bad if the elites caught onto the population consuming the proper human diet

but also we dont want everyone to be complete slaves either so what can you do
 
Serious talk @81xa primal diet is mostly: a fallacy
True. It can make you sick, and it has parasites and dangerous bacteria. You could go blind just from eating it. Its too risky. Just cook your food.
 
you cant eat raw meat because of spoilage bacteria and others
only scavengers with extremely acidic gut ph can process the rotten meat prtoperly
idc about eating rotten flesh, what I care about is eating cheap meat from the supermarket which is more than possible
 
cooking destroys water soluble/fat soluble vitamins by 10-50%
the DIAAS for raw meat is 97
essentially, the nutrient loss of 10-50% is more significant than the 1% increase in absorption for cooking
overall raw is the best still
meat isn't gonna be ur main source for all of those anyway and you still get plenty from cooked meat either way

theres absolute 0 point in consuming more of said resources when you already get the sufficent amount and you can make it into a gravy too

not to mention this also increases density of proteins as raw meat consist of 20 while cooked meat consists of 26g per 100gm
 
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Skimmed through jusy pure appeal to nature fallacy bs no nuance at all I agree that we are hypercarnivores tho
 
we've been eating raw meat for millions of years but now our body's adapted to the slop, i don't think we can handle all the e coli
IMO you can eat small doses of raw meat and consume small doses of raw milk and just increase the amount every week feel like it would rewire your stomach
 
What the fuck is this thread, this has nothing to do with Raw Primal or Aajonus Vonderplanitz. It seems like a very low quality rep-farm post for incels who want to seem "awake".
 
What the fuck is this thread, this has nothing to do with Raw Primal or Aajonus Vonderplanitz. It seems like a very low quality rep-farm post for incels who want to seem "awake".
Go back to reddit fag
 
Go back to reddit fag
I called your larp faggot, be my little bitch.
 
You have no knowledge on this subject

Appears that you just want to ragebait because of your low iq

straight to ignore nigger
I'm low IQ, because I pointed out that you wrote a thread about something that has no correlation, & practically nothing to do with the subject?


@IAMNOTANINCEL

You seem based, look at this, lmfao.
 
Introduction
The primal diet is a raw animal food protocol developed by Aajonus Vonderplanitz, a nutritional consultant who argued that cooking destroys the enzymes and bioavailable nutrients the body needs to function optimally. The diet centres on raw meat, raw dairy, raw eggs, and raw fats sourced from grass-fed and pasture-raised animals. Reported effects from long-term practitioners include significant fat loss, improved skin quality, increased energy, and better body composition.

I've watched hundreds of Aajonus, Goatis, and many other videos on the primal diet at this point. I'm very fascinated with the primal diet because of the transformations I see as a result of this way of eating.
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The case for raw meat

The argument is simple. Heat denatures enzymes and degrades specific nutrients. Raw milk versus pasteurised is the clearest documented example. Pasteurisation at 72°C destroys alkaline phosphatase, reduces vitamin C content by around 25%, and denatures whey proteins that play a role in immune function. The same applies to meat. Retinol in beef liver begins degrading above 70°C, B12 losses range from 30-50% depending on cooking method, and proteolytic enzymes that assist protein digestion denature with heat, shifting that burden onto your own digestive system.
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Arguments against raw meat
It's logical, less cooking means increased nutrients, and increased nutrients mean better health outcomes. Then the arguments against it are obviously that raw meat contains germs, bacteria etc. But we cannot ignore the fact that people like Goatis and Aajonus, who eat this diet are not dead after years of raw meat consumption. Some might say survivorship bias, but goatis has likely eaten over 3+ tonnes of raw meat over the past decade, which cannot be ignored. If it were truly harmful, he would have been dead or in critical condition long ago. Clearly there is some sort of adaptation.



When this man saw a doctor he indeed had a large amount E. E.Coli in his gut. Yet remains asymptomatic. This suggests the body can tolerate and manage bacterial loads that would hospitalise someone with compromised gut health. The relevant variable isn't whether bacteria are present in the first place, it's whether the host can contain them. Source quality and gut integrity are the factors to consider. Interestingly, humans contain a lower stomach acid pH than pure carnivores such as Lions, which provides a meaningful barrier against ingested pathogens

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Overall, if you aren't in poor health, taking regular antibiotics or anything that can disrupt your gut health and steadily cooking your food less each time, you can adapt to the primal diet. Cooking does destroy the nutrients and enzymes in foods, this is factual. So it is logical to simply eat it raw. At the moment I eat my meat rare, simply searing it on the outside. I feel a bit more energetic since I began eating rare meat, likely due to the increased nutrients.


So, what raw foods should you actually be eating?
  • -Grass-fed Ground Beef (80/20): 12-14 lbs
  • -Pasture-raised Eggs: 36-48 eggs
  • -Grass-fed Butter: 1 lb
  • - Hydrating fruits (watermelon, mango, strawberry)
  • -Raw Cheddar Cheese: 1 lb
  • -Wild-caught Cod: 3-4 lbs
  • -Pasture Raised 100% Grass Fed Beef Liver: 1lb
  • -Bone Broth (or Beef Bones for Homemade Bone Broth)
  • -1 Tablespoon wild caught cod liver oil daily
  • -Celtic Sea Salt (beneficial for electrolyte balance, particularly if on a low-carb diet where sodium excretion increases.)
  • -Raw milk : 1L daily (if in puberty)
    • Calcium & Vitamin K2 for bone growth and strength
    • Probiotics & Enzymes to aid digestion and gut health
    • Fat-soluble vitamins (A, D, E, K2) for hormonal and immune function
    • Contains IGF1 growth factors
Countries mapped tallest to shortest mapped alongside raw milk consumption:
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Fuel Source Coverage

Fat is the primary fuel source. Butter, cod liver oil, ground beef, and eggs cover this. On a fat-adapted diet, the body preferentially burns stored fat for energy, which accelerates fat loss without caloric restriction being the main driver. Protein supports tissue repair and muscle maintenance rather than acting as a direct fuel source. Beef, eggs, and cheese are the main contributors here.

Carbohydrates are kept relatively low. Fruit is the primary source of carbs, and summer is the better time to increase it. UV exposure improves insulin sensitivity and circadian-regulated glucose metabolism, meaning your body handles fruit sugar more efficiently during months with high sun exposure. Outside of summer, keep fruit intake minimal.


Micronutrient Coverage

RDAs were established to prevent deficiency in sedentary populations, not to optimise health. Use this table as a reference point, not a target. Note that some apparent shortfalls, particularly vitamin C, are less significant on a low-glucose diet. Glucose and ascorbic acid compete for the same cellular transporters, so lower glucose intake means more efficient vitamin C uptake at lower absolute doses.
  • Vitamin A: Over 200% of RDA (butter, cheese, eggs, liver, cod liver)
  • Vitamin D: Over 300% of RDA (eggs, cod, butter, cod liver)
  • Vitamin B12: Over 700% of RDA (eggs, ground beef, cod, liver)
  • Vitamin B1 (Thiamine): ~40% of RDA (beef, eggs)
  • Vitamin B2 (Riboflavin): ~60% of RDA (eggs, beef, cheese)
  • Vitamin B3 (Niacin): ~100% of RDA (beef, eggs)
  • Vitamin B5 (Pantothenic Acid): ~100% of RDA (eggs, beef)
  • Vitamin B6: ~100% of RDA (beef, eggs)
  • Folate (Vitamin B9): Over 200% of RDA (eggs, beef, liver)
  • Biotin: ~100% of RDA (eggs, beef, liver)
  • Vitamin C: ~0-10% of RDA (small amounts in liver and cod liver)
  • Vitamin E: ~0-10% of RDA (small amounts in liver, cod liver, butter, eggs)
  • Calcium: ~100% of RDA (cheese, butter)
  • Selenium: Over 200% of RDA (ground beef, eggs, cod)
  • Iron: Around 100% of RDA (beef, eggs, liver)
  • Zinc: ~350% of RDA (beef, eggs)
  • Choline: Over 200% of RDA (eggs, beef, liver)
  • Iodine: ~500% of RDA (cod, salt)
  • Phosphorus: Over 1000% of RDA (eggs, cheese, beef)
  • Magnesium: ~40-50% of RDA (from bone broth and liver)
  • Potassium: ~20-30% of RDA (from bone broth, liver, eggs)
  • Vitamin K: ~13% of RDA (eggs, butter)
  • Manganese: ~0-10% of RDA (from liver, but minimal)
  • Copper: ~30-50% of RDA (from beef liver, eggs)

Optional Supplementation

  • Magnesium and potassium supplements can replace bone broth if preferred
  • If skipping beef liver: Vitamin E, Magnesium, Potassium, Manganese, and Copper are worth covering. Vitamin C is optional on a low-glucose diet but can be added at a low dose.

Conclusion
Industrial meat handled poorly is genuinely dangerous. Grass-fed, properly sourced animal products eaten by someone with intact gut health is a different situation entirely. Most of the horror stories around raw meat involve ground beef from a supermarket, not the protocol I outlined here.

If you're already eating rare meat with no issues, the transition is incremental. Add raw liver. Introduce raw milk if you can source it. Track how you feel over 30 days. The adaptation is real; it simply just requires not jumping straight to a pound of raw mince on day one.

The people dismissing this diet haven't even tried it, the people doing it long-term aren't going back, that alone is very telling.

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@IAMNOTANINCEL @epic09 @primal_shitmuncher @ICL @jzo

Good thread. Mirin effort. Ive been drinking raw milk since Ive been a kid as its from the farmer 200 meters away from me and im way better developed then the average person. I think you should implement parts of the primal life style like you mentioned but not taking baths in raw milk and egg yolks. Do you recommend sourcing meat from a high quality butcher or the farms themselves?
 
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Good thread. Mirin effort. Ive been drinking raw milk since Ive been a kid as its from the farmer 200 meters away from me and im way better developed then the average person. I think you should implement parts of the primal life style like you mentioned but not taking baths in raw milk and egg yolks. Do you recommend sourcing meat from a high quality butcher or the farms themselves?
Ideally a farm is the best because of transparency, you know exactly what youre getting. Butchers is good as well if they are getting it from a good source
 
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Ideally a farm is the best because of transparency, you know exactly what youre getting. Butchers is good as well if they are getting it from a good source
Yh swiss butchers usually have a good rep and better prices then farmers.
 
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Introduction
The primal diet is a raw animal food protocol developed by Aajonus Vonderplanitz, a nutritional consultant who argued that cooking destroys the enzymes and bioavailable nutrients the body needs to function optimally. The diet centres on raw meat, raw dairy, raw eggs, and raw fats sourced from grass-fed and pasture-raised animals. Reported effects from long-term practitioners include significant fat loss, improved skin quality, increased energy, and better body composition.

I've watched hundreds of Aajonus, Goatis, and many other videos on the primal diet at this point. I'm very fascinated with the primal diet because of the transformations I see as a result of this way of eating.
View attachment 5119470



The case for raw meat

The argument is simple. Heat denatures enzymes and degrades specific nutrients. Raw milk versus pasteurised is the clearest documented example. Pasteurisation at 72°C destroys alkaline phosphatase, reduces vitamin C content by around 25%, and denatures whey proteins that play a role in immune function. The same applies to meat. Retinol in beef liver begins degrading above 70°C, B12 losses range from 30-50% depending on cooking method, and proteolytic enzymes that assist protein digestion denature with heat, shifting that burden onto your own digestive system.
View attachment 5119418


Arguments against raw meat
It's logical, less cooking means increased nutrients, and increased nutrients mean better health outcomes. Then the arguments against it are obviously that raw meat contains germs, bacteria etc. But we cannot ignore the fact that people like Goatis and Aajonus, who eat this diet are not dead after years of raw meat consumption. Some might say survivorship bias, but goatis has likely eaten over 3+ tonnes of raw meat over the past decade, which cannot be ignored. If it were truly harmful, he would have been dead or in critical condition long ago. Clearly there is some sort of adaptation.



When this man saw a doctor he indeed had a large amount E. E.Coli in his gut. Yet remains asymptomatic. This suggests the body can tolerate and manage bacterial loads that would hospitalise someone with compromised gut health. The relevant variable isn't whether bacteria are present in the first place, it's whether the host can contain them. Source quality and gut integrity are the factors to consider. Interestingly, humans contain a lower stomach acid pH than pure carnivores such as Lions, which provides a meaningful barrier against ingested pathogens

View attachment 5119474

Overall, if you aren't in poor health, taking regular antibiotics or anything that can disrupt your gut health and steadily cooking your food less each time, you can adapt to the primal diet. Cooking does destroy the nutrients and enzymes in foods, this is factual. So it is logical to simply eat it raw. At the moment I eat my meat rare, simply searing it on the outside. I feel a bit more energetic since I began eating rare meat, likely due to the increased nutrients.


So, what raw foods should you actually be eating?
  • -Grass-fed Ground Beef (80/20): 12-14 lbs
  • -Pasture-raised Eggs: 36-48 eggs
  • -Grass-fed Butter: 1 lb
  • - Hydrating fruits (watermelon, mango, strawberry)
  • -Raw Cheddar Cheese: 1 lb
  • -Wild-caught Cod: 3-4 lbs
  • -Pasture Raised 100% Grass Fed Beef Liver: 1lb
  • -Bone Broth (or Beef Bones for Homemade Bone Broth)
  • -1 Tablespoon wild caught cod liver oil daily
  • -Celtic Sea Salt (beneficial for electrolyte balance, particularly if on a low-carb diet where sodium excretion increases.)
  • -Raw milk : 1L daily (if in puberty)
    • Calcium & Vitamin K2 for bone growth and strength
    • Probiotics & Enzymes to aid digestion and gut health
    • Fat-soluble vitamins (A, D, E, K2) for hormonal and immune function
    • Contains IGF1 growth factors
Countries mapped tallest to shortest mapped alongside raw milk consumption:
View attachment 5119706

Fuel Source Coverage

Fat is the primary fuel source. Butter, cod liver oil, ground beef, and eggs cover this. On a fat-adapted diet, the body preferentially burns stored fat for energy, which accelerates fat loss without caloric restriction being the main driver. Protein supports tissue repair and muscle maintenance rather than acting as a direct fuel source. Beef, eggs, and cheese are the main contributors here.

Carbohydrates are kept relatively low. Fruit is the primary source of carbs, and summer is the better time to increase it. UV exposure improves insulin sensitivity and circadian-regulated glucose metabolism, meaning your body handles fruit sugar more efficiently during months with high sun exposure. Outside of summer, keep fruit intake minimal.


Micronutrient Coverage

RDAs were established to prevent deficiency in sedentary populations, not to optimise health. Use this table as a reference point, not a target. Note that some apparent shortfalls, particularly vitamin C, are less significant on a low-glucose diet. Glucose and ascorbic acid compete for the same cellular transporters, so lower glucose intake means more efficient vitamin C uptake at lower absolute doses.
  • Vitamin A: Over 200% of RDA (butter, cheese, eggs, liver, cod liver)
  • Vitamin D: Over 300% of RDA (eggs, cod, butter, cod liver)
  • Vitamin B12: Over 700% of RDA (eggs, ground beef, cod, liver)
  • Vitamin B1 (Thiamine): ~40% of RDA (beef, eggs)
  • Vitamin B2 (Riboflavin): ~60% of RDA (eggs, beef, cheese)
  • Vitamin B3 (Niacin): ~100% of RDA (beef, eggs)
  • Vitamin B5 (Pantothenic Acid): ~100% of RDA (eggs, beef)
  • Vitamin B6: ~100% of RDA (beef, eggs)
  • Folate (Vitamin B9): Over 200% of RDA (eggs, beef, liver)
  • Biotin: ~100% of RDA (eggs, beef, liver)
  • Vitamin C: ~0-10% of RDA (small amounts in liver and cod liver)
  • Vitamin E: ~0-10% of RDA (small amounts in liver, cod liver, butter, eggs)
  • Calcium: ~100% of RDA (cheese, butter)
  • Selenium: Over 200% of RDA (ground beef, eggs, cod)
  • Iron: Around 100% of RDA (beef, eggs, liver)
  • Zinc: ~350% of RDA (beef, eggs)
  • Choline: Over 200% of RDA (eggs, beef, liver)
  • Iodine: ~500% of RDA (cod, salt)
  • Phosphorus: Over 1000% of RDA (eggs, cheese, beef)
  • Magnesium: ~40-50% of RDA (from bone broth and liver)
  • Potassium: ~20-30% of RDA (from bone broth, liver, eggs)
  • Vitamin K: ~13% of RDA (eggs, butter)
  • Manganese: ~0-10% of RDA (from liver, but minimal)
  • Copper: ~30-50% of RDA (from beef liver, eggs)

Optional Supplementation

  • Magnesium and potassium supplements can replace bone broth if preferred
  • If skipping beef liver: Vitamin E, Magnesium, Potassium, Manganese, and Copper are worth covering. Vitamin C is optional on a low-glucose diet but can be added at a low dose.

Conclusion
Industrial meat handled poorly is genuinely dangerous. Grass-fed, properly sourced animal products eaten by someone with intact gut health is a different situation entirely. Most of the horror stories around raw meat involve ground beef from a supermarket, not the protocol I outlined here.

If you're already eating rare meat with no issues, the transition is incremental. Add raw liver. Introduce raw milk if you can source it. Track how you feel over 30 days. The adaptation is real; it simply just requires not jumping straight to a pound of raw mince on day one.

The people dismissing this diet haven't even tried it, the people doing it long-term aren't going back, that alone is very telling.

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@IAMNOTANINCEL @epic09 @primal_shitmuncher @ICL @jzo

Good thread
 
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