The real slaves are atheists

[Prøphet]

Everyone is a slave to something

If you don’t follow Christ, you will inevitably end up following your own desire, greed lust pride wrath, sin

You just don’t want to admit it because you don’t want to admit how horrible human beings are

Following any human being will leave you disappointed and lead to destruction

Only by following something higher will you have any hope at something better

 

[davidlaidisme67]

I disagree tbh. Everyone is a slave to something and that something is your neurochemistry

 

[davidlaidisme67]

But someone doesn’t need to be apart of organized religion

 

[RedDragonSlayer67]

What are you talking about

 

[Notcel]

True, people dont want to hear it though

 

[StillGrowingTaller]

Ok buddy I’m gonna chop half my dick off and join Christianity

 

[Prøphet]

I disagree tbh. Everyone is a slave to something and that something is your neurochemistry

Of course it is, human neurochemistry is inherently selfish because of the fall

You can only begin to see freedom by following something that isn’t human or confined by human limits

 

[Prøphet]

Religion is the logical conclusion of the blackpill

 

[Algernon]

I disagree tbh. Everyone is a slave to something and that something is your neurochemistry

?
people fight their natural instinct all the time

neurochemistry is largely ingrained into us since it directly affects our brain's wants and needs, most of the time we dont fight it, but we have free will and there is more to our brain then just hormones

 

[Chungus]

But there is nothing wrong with following your wants (or sins) if they fulfill you? You can label it slavery but it doesnt negate the benefits that following them rewards

 

[Algernon]

Religion is the logical conclusion of the blackpill

what do u philosophically believe in?
what is ur basis for thinking

 

[Prøphet]

But there is nothing wrong with following your wants (or sins) if they fulfill you? You can label it slavery but it doesnt negate the benefits that following them rewards

Do they ever really fulfill you? Does this world driven by these same wants fulfill you? We live in hell because of sin, because we are selfish, because our ancestors ate the fruit of knowledge and took the ultimate blackpill

 

[secretAscendAnon]

Everyone is a slave to something

If you don’t follow Christ, you will inevitably end up following your own desire, greed lust pride wrath, sin

You just don’t want to admit it because you don’t want to admit how horrible human beings are

Following any human being will leave you disappointed and lead to destruction

Only by following something higher will you have any hope at something better

Why would u only follow social rules because someone tells u to (religion) and not because of ur own thinking ?

 

[Prøphet]

Why would u only follow social rules because someone tells u to (religion) and not because of ur own thinking ?

Because I did my own thinking and came to the exact same conclusion

They aren’t social rules, they’re moral rules, actually they’re the only moral rules that could possibly be, and every single other rule is social

 

[Prøphet]

what do u philosophically believe in?
what is ur basis for thinking

Difficult to answer

But I fully believe in the Bible

Ive seen so much of what’s wrong with human nature that I understand in my heart how a perfect God did everything He did

If human language didn’t limit our consciousness so much I could answer you precisely

 

[secretAscendAnon]

Because I did my own thinking and came to the exact same conclusion

They aren’t social rules, they’re moral rules, actually they’re the only moral rules that could possibly be, and every single other rule is social

U do know that religious codes are outdated and like 90% of them dont apply to today ?

 

[Chungus]

Do they ever really fulfill you? Does this world driven by these same wants fulfill you? We live in hell because of sin, because we are selfish, because our ancestors ate the fruit of knowledge and took the ultimate blackpill

Why would achieving something you want not fulfill you
If you dislike indulgence or whatever vague sins youre talking about then you want something else
A magical man in the sky isnt the answer

 

[Prøphet]

U do know that religious codes are outdated and like 90% of them dont apply to today ?

The religious codes Christ expects us to follow today are more relevant than ever

Like the Ten Commandments and faith in Him

If you’re talking about Old Testament rules they were designed to fit into the times and play out the way they did

 

[Prøphet]

Why would achieving something you want not fulfill you

Because you don’t actually want it

Only your flesh does

The world is just the collective flesh, killing each other and creating chaos and imposing so much pain and suffering and for what? Cellular reproduction? It’s meaningless. That’s why something will always be missing and that’s why everything is so fucked up

If you dislike indulgence or whatever vague sins youre talking about then you want something else
A magical man in the sky isnt the answer

I want God’s Will to be done

The creator is infinitely better than us and is free from the limits we created on our universe through sin

 

[secretAscendAnon]

The religious codes Christ expects us to follow today are more relevant than ever

Like the Ten Commandments and faith in Him

If you’re talking about Old Testament rules they were designed to fit into the times and play out the way they did

New Tastement
1.Does not condem slavery
2.Is for inequality between men and woman
3.Labels illnesses as demonic possesions
4.Wants eternal damnation for non believers

 

[Prøphet]

Why would achieving something you want not fulfill you

To my first point

You can’t explain why you want sex

You just want it because chemicals in your body are forcing you to desire it

Not reason


But God is the reason you’re missing

 

[jake08lt]

Everyone is a slave to something

If you don’t follow Christ, you will inevitably end up following your own desire, greed lust pride wrath, sin

You just don’t want to admit it because you don’t want to admit how horrible human beings are

Following any human being will leave you disappointed and lead to destruction

Only by following something higher will you have any hope at something better

Iqlet

 

[Algernon]

Difficult to answer

But I fully believe in the Bible

Ive seen so much of what’s wrong with human nature that I understand in my heart how a perfect God did everything He did

If human language didn’t limit our consciousness so much I could answer you precisely

i was wondering what you'd think of my beliefs

the basis of all my beliefs is 5 things

4/5 lead to religion (risk/reward, control, my future, logic)

you seem smart so i wanted to ask if you think it is contradictory to believe in religion while having it not be the basis of your belief system

 

[Aski]

Everyone is a slave to something

If you don’t follow Christ, you will inevitably end up following your own desire, greed lust pride wrath, sin

You just don’t want to admit it because you don’t want to admit how horrible human beings are

Following any human being will leave you disappointed and lead to destruction

Only by following something higher will you have any hope at something better

I don't agree

 

[valentine]

If you don’t follow Christ, you will inevitably end up following your own desire, greed lust pride wrath, sin

You just don’t want to admit it because you don’t want to admit how horrible human beings are

Following any human being will leave you disappointed and lead to destruction

i only follow jordan barrett

 

[Acquiescence]

Don’t worry Jesus is coming back very soon and his name will be ASI

 

[Prøphet]

i was wondering what you'd think of my beliefs

the basis of all my beliefs is 5 things

4/5 lead to religion (risk/reward, control, my future, logic)

you seem smart so i wanted to ask if you think it is contradictory to believe in religion while having it not be the basis of your belief system

What’s your fifth basis?

I think having religion as your only basis of belief is too circular, you need to at least have enough faith to suspend judgment. So faith + religion would work. Just like logic + religion or evidence + religion.

I might be giving a dumb answer I haven’t thought much about this question but it’s a good one

 

[Algernon]

What’s your fifth basis?

I think having religion as your only basis of belief is too circular, you need to at least have enough faith to suspend judgment. So faith + religion would work. Just like logic + religion or evidence + religion.

I might be giving a dumb answer I haven’t thought much about this question but it’s a good one

works in life is the 5th
so your dreams and goals
i don't have an ordering (i don't have much life experience) but generally control, risk and reward outweigh the other 3

 

[Prøphet]

New Tastement
1.Does not condem slavery
2.Is for inequality between men and woman
3.Labels illnesses as demonic possesions
4.Wants eternal damnation for non believers

I can’t answer 1 in good faith because I haven’t studied it yet

2. Well, look at how human’s perverse interpretation of “equality” has worked out. It’s probably the reason you’re a member here. God’s social stratification is a prerequisite for harmony, even if we still didn’t implement it perfectly there was less we could fuck up.

3. Illness is demonic possession, I always have had a more metaphorical view of demons and the devil so I believe it just means the source that corrupted humanity into our imperfections. Our flesh becomes ill and dies because of how temporary the world is, because demons have authority here

4. We all “deserve” eternal damnation, if you choose to associate yourself with the world and abandon a higher form you’re just choosing to stay with the world (sin and suffering) instead of the heaven only God can provide. To go be with God in heaven without belief in Him doesnt make sense, because that belief is the only path to actual Good.

 

[Chungus]

Because you don’t actually want it

Only your flesh does

The world is just the collective flesh, killing each other and creating chaos and imposing so much pain and suffering and for what? Cellular reproduction? It’s meaningless. That’s why something will always be missing and that’s why everything is so fucked up



I want God’s Will to be done

The creator is infinitely better than us and is free from the limits we created on our universe through sin

idk tbh

 

[Algernon]

New Tastement
1.Does not condem slavery
2.Is for inequality between men and woman
3.Labels illnesses as demonic possesions
4.Wants eternal damnation for non believers

1. ? "Whoever steals a man and sells him, and anyone found sin possession of him, shall be put to death." Exodus 21:16
2. "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus." Galatians 3:28, they are inequal in the physical world but equal in heaven, which makes sense.
3. "And they cast out many devils, and anointed with oil many that were sick, and healed them." Mark 6:13, they are taken as seperate acts, meaning healing and exorcism are different.
4. ngl i have never been good at arguing this

 

[secretAscendAnon]

1. ? "Whoever steals a man and sells him, and anyone found sin possession of him, shall be put to death." Exodus 21:16
2. "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus." Galatians 3:28, they are inequal in the physical world but equal in heaven, which makes sense.
3. "And they cast out many devils, and anointed with oil many that were sick, and healed them." Mark 6:13, they are taken as seperate acts, meaning healing and exorcism are different.
4. ngl i have never been good at arguing this

First one is cherry picking, lots of verses that say that slaves should obey their masters and endure the hardship that their masters put onto them.
Second one is cherry picking again, this verse is talking about spiritual equality (for example that they are judged the same before god), what im talking about is the verses that tell woman to submit to their men and have no authority over them. This showcases typical patriarchal values which are outdated and against human rights.

 

[kisslessvirgin]

own desire, greed lust pride wrath,

whats wrong with that

 

[beimero]

whats wrong with that

Non of them lead to happiness. Only corruption of the soul. If you truly struggle with them you are not happy

 

[kisslessvirgin]

Non of them lead to happiness. Only corruption of the soul. If you truly struggle with them you are not happy

there are plenty of people who are happy without any of these beliefs

 

[Apchun144]

Everyone is a slave to something

If you don’t follow Christ, you will inevitably end up following your own desire, greed lust pride wrath, sin

You just don’t want to admit it because you don’t want to admit how horrible human beings are

Following any human being will leave you disappointed and lead to destruction

Only by following something higher will you have any hope at something better

What if christ is not true one
Mostly heretics are punished worse in hell than atheists
So it’s a gamble
And gamble is a sin
So every religious person is a sinner

 

[ashmeer]

What if christ is not true one
Mostly heretics are punished worse in hell than atheists
So it’s a gamble
And gamble is a sin
So every religious person is a sinner

Warra conclusion

 

[beimero]

there are plenty of people who are happy without any of these beliefs

Some people never had the opportunity to know Christ but follow their conscience which is given by God. If you are truly sinful you can't be happy. I know from experience.

 

[Prøphet]

Mostly heretics are punished worse in hell than atheists

No they’re not

 

[Apchun144]

No they’re not

Atheists are in limbo, while heretics are in 6th ring of hell, no?

 

[Jinmu]

Religion is the logical conclusion of the blackpill

nah, these two dont go well with each other, think about it someone born deformed and very good looking, can't put in a sentence but you know.

 

[Algernon]

First one is cherry picking, lots of verses that say that slaves should obey their masters and endure the hardship that their masters put onto them.
Second one is cherry picking again, this verse is talking about spiritual equality (for example that they are judged the same before god), what im talking about is the verses that tell woman to submit to their men and have no authority over them. This showcases typical patriarchal values which are outdated and against human rights.

"outdated against human rights" so you listen to global philosophy?
can you truly say they are exactly equal in the physical world, using logic?

Atheists are in limbo, while heretics are in 6th ring of hell, no?

"rings of hell" don't exist in christianity
those come from Dante's Inferno, a book

 

[OTDraco]

, you will inevitably end up following your own desire, greed lust pride wrath, sin

there’s nothing wrong with that, the only way to achieve true happiness is to do what u want you can never be truly happy if you limit yourself