The reality none of you want to hear about

[Adonis]

high risk = high reward.
If you don't have the balls to take roids, stimulants, and do other high risk stuff your chances will always be smaller to get what you want.

 

[GeneticAbomination]

But someone did roids and became truecel (raterater tier)

 

[Orc]

the reality of aesthetics is that size is cope, no amount of additional mass will make someone with bad insertions and a poor skeletal structure aesthetic.

 

[Adonis]

But someone did roids and became truecel (raterater tier)

Post pics or cope

 

[Adonis]

the reality of aesthetics is that size is cope, no amount of additional mass will make someone with bad insertions and a poor skeletal structure aesthetic.

True but being very lean is the most important thing.
You gotta take tren to look like the aesthetic bodybuilders

 

[GeneticAbomination]

True but being very lean is the most important thing.
You gotta take tren to look like the aesthetic bodybuilders

do you like deadpool

 

[Orc]

You gotta take tren to look like the aesthetic bodybuilders

bodybuilding has left aesthetics behind a very long time ago, very few of them look good to anyone besides homosexuals.

 

[Adonis]

bodybuilding has left aesthetics behind a very long time ago, very few of them look good to anyone besides homosexuals.

Nah I mean dudes like david laid, Alex Eubank, Gabe deutsch

 

[Africancel]

Nah I mean dudes like david laid, Alex Eubank, Gabe deutsch

Just depends. Of course if you blast grams of 10 different stuff you gonna look like a mass monster.
You can build a very aesthetic physique with just test if you know what you are doing (natty limit in 9months). Size is just bodybuilding cope. Just a decent amount of muscle is enough(swimmers physique) or maybe male escort physique if you are black or ethnic.
Leanness is king

 

[materialistic]

Nah, I think natural lifting gives a good aesthetic result after a while (roids-wise). But I'm going for bimax.

 

[Yuno_howitez]

Das

Just depends. Of course if you blast grams of 10 different stuff you gonna look like a mass monster.
You can build a very aesthetic physique with just test if you know what you are doing (natty limit in 9months). Size is just bodybuilding cope. Just a decent amount of muscle is enough(swimmers physique) or maybe male escort physique if you are black or ethnic.
Leanness is king

damn I’d like to take test but won’t I have to take it for the rest of my life If i start it?

 

[Africancel]

Das

damn I’d like to take test but won’t I have to take it for the rest of my life If i start it?

Nope you won’t. Unless you blast a gram of test/week for 20y without ancillaries, you won’t really do any long term damage to your body. Just never exeeds 500mg/week and work your way up to that level while dealing with the minor side effects along the way(acne, hairloss if you are really prone)

 

[Orc]

Das

damn I’d like to take test but won’t I have to take it for the rest of my life If i start it?

you can PCT afterwards, but there's a chance it won't work of course.


after a single cycle that chance also isn't particularly high.

 

[Adonis]

you can PCT afterwards, but there's a chance it won't work of course.


after a single cycle that chance also isn't particularly high.

Tbh I don't think needing TRT for the rest of your life is a bad thing

 

[FootballPlaya69]

after a single cycle that chance also isn't particularly high.

Low IQ. People bnc for years and recover just fine. Spread your Jewish nonsense somewhere else

 

[Orc]

Tbh I don't think needing TRT for the rest of your life is a bad thing

it's not particularly expensive or hard to get, the raws are from china though, and they're not shy about shutting down entire supply lines.

Low IQ. People bnc for years and recover just fine. Spread your Jewish nonsense somewhere else

that is what I said, that chance isn't that high when it's your first cycle.

but it can happen.

 

[FootballPlaya69]

it's not particularly expensive or hard to get, the raws are from china though, and they're not shy about shutting down entire supply lines.


that is what I said, that chance isn't that high when it's your first cycle.

but it can happen.

My bad I read that wrong. You are correct

 

[Orc]

My bad I read that wrong. You are correct

no worries.

also keep in mind that the most adverse effects you'll have are either going to be at the start, or at the end when you have to PCT, because during these times your hormonal profile is out of whack, this is when dudes experience the most acne, not during the middle of the cycle when their hormone concentrations are stable.

 

[Foreverbrad]

Actually this is a reality I enjoy.
If the barrier to entry was low then everyone would be doing it.

One thing I really hate is SARMS, they've truly cheapened getting an aesthetic body - none of these zoomer faggots would have the balls to actually pin but taking pills is oh so easy.

 

[SubSigma]

I have no issue doing stimulants like adderal, coke, mdma etc. But I would never touch steroids

 

[Adonis]

Actually this is a reality I enjoy.
If the barrier to entry was low then everyone would be doing it.

One thing I really hate is SARMS, they've truly cheapened getting an aesthetic body - none of these zoomer faggots would have the balls to actually pin but taking pills is oh so easy.

Are SARMS really that good?

 

[Adonis]

I have no issue doing stimulants like adderal, coke, mdma etc. But I would never touch steroids

Just be a junkie theory

 

[SubSigma]

Just be a junkie theory

Great for fatloss tbh

 

[Orc]

Are SARMS really that good?

not at the price you're paying for them, don't be surprised if they have long term consequences, you're safer off just pinning.

 

[Foreverbrad]

Are SARMS really that good?

It's all dosage dependent I suppose. Some SARMS are literally unclassified steroids, such as YK11.

I've not tried them since I hopped on steroids before they really became a thing.

From what I read they'll shut your HPTA down just as badly as steroids will. But at least you don't have to inject anything and you can just buy them from regular supplement stores.

They must literally cycle between doing SARMS with a broken dick and then once off trying to fuck as many girls they can off their physique gains until they're inevitably lost off cycle.

 

[Adonis]

not at the price you're paying for them, don't be surprised if they have long term consequences, you're safer off just pinning.

Whats with s-23?
It sounds good tbh and isn't expensive.

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

the reality of aesthetics is that size is cope, no amount of additional mass will make someone with bad insertions and a poor skeletal structure aesthetic.

More size , particularly on the shoulders, combined with a smaller waist from leanmaxxing gives the illusion of better skeletal structure