The root of male homosexuality

[its_so_over2]

The idea that bullying or trauma “turns” someone gay as a survival mechanism isn’t supported by scientific evidence. Here’s why:

1. Sexual orientation develops early
   • Research suggests that sexual orientation is largely shaped by biology (genes, prenatal hormones, brain development) long before social experiences like bullying.
   • Most people report first feeling same-sex attraction well before adolescence (often in childhood), long before experiences like bullying could “cause” it.
2. Bullying is common, but outcomes vary
   • Many straight men are bullied, and they remain straight.
   • Many gay men are not heavily bullied, yet they are gay.
   • If bullying “caused” homosexuality, we’d expect nearly all bullied boys to be gay — but that’s not the case.
3. Survival theory doesn’t match evidence
   • The idea that the brain “switches orientation” for survival assumes sexuality is flexible like a coping mechanism. But studies show orientation is generally stable and not something people can consciously change in response to trauma.
4. Correlation vs. causation
   • It is true that gay men often report higher rates of childhood bullying — but this is better explained by the fact that they were perceived as different (in mannerisms, interests, or appearance) and targeted because of that difference.
   • In other words: being non-conforming may lead to both bullying and being gay, but one doesn’t cause the other.

So the theory doesn’t add up because homosexuality isn’t a response to trauma — it’s a natural variation of human sexuality. Trauma might shape how someone feels about their sexuality, but it doesn’t create it.

chat jewpt explained it good
im praying that my brain didnt think sucking my fathers cock would stop him from abusing me

Well made response

 

[The Grinch]

The idea that bullying or trauma “turns” someone gay as a survival mechanism isn’t supported by scientific evidence. Here’s why:

1. Sexual orientation develops early
   • Research suggests that sexual orientation is largely shaped by biology (genes, prenatal hormones, brain development) long before social experiences like bullying.
   • Most people report first feeling same-sex attraction well before adolescence (often in childhood), long before experiences like bullying could “cause” it.
2. Bullying is common, but outcomes vary
   • Many straight men are bullied, and they remain straight.
   • Many gay men are not heavily bullied, yet they are gay.
   • If bullying “caused” homosexuality, we’d expect nearly all bullied boys to be gay — but that’s not the case.
3. Survival theory doesn’t match evidence
   • The idea that the brain “switches orientation” for survival assumes sexuality is flexible like a coping mechanism. But studies show orientation is generally stable and not something people can consciously change in response to trauma.
4. Correlation vs. causation
   • It is true that gay men often report higher rates of childhood bullying — but this is better explained by the fact that they were perceived as different (in mannerisms, interests, or appearance) and targeted because of that difference.
   • In other words: being non-conforming may lead to both bullying and being gay, but one doesn’t cause the other.

So the theory doesn’t add up because homosexuality isn’t a response to trauma — it’s a natural variation of human sexuality. Trauma might shape how someone feels about their sexuality, but it doesn’t create it.

chat jewpt explained it good
im praying that my brain didnt think sucking my fathers cock would stop him from abusing me

It has almost always to do with your parents. Men who like dominant women always had an abusive mother, men who like submissive women had a soft mother who treated them like kings, men who beat women had a father who beated their mom and men who are gay idealize men, mostly because they feel / felt weak and powerless in the presence of men, while they felt safe around women, so they think of men as something they look up to and they will do anything to impress men, even if it means sucking their cock, they are like women who live for male attention / validation

 

[Lefty Rankin]

I‘m talking about the bottoms. Tops are a whole different story, they are so masculine and dominant, that they see other men as women

No man. There are some bad mother fuckers that like to suck dick and get fucked.

 

[The Grinch]

No man. There are some bad mother fuckers that like to suck dick and get fucked.

I‘m not saying it’s always like that, some people just have their fetishes and desires, but acting as if there isn’t a root cause for others isn’t logical

 

[sillybilly]

It has almost always to do with your parents. Men who like dominant women always had an abusive mother, men who like submissive women had a soft mother who treated them like kings, men who beat women had a father who beated their mom and men who are gay idealize men, mostly because they feel / felt weak and powerless in the presence of men, while they felt safe around women, so they think of men as something they look up to and they will do anything to impress men, even if it means sucking their cock, they are like women who live for male attention / validation

i wanna deny this so bad but its painfully true
ive always been a victim my whole life
still doesnt make sense though since why does this only apply to SOME gay men? most men who have been bullied are straight.

 

[sillybilly]

It has almost always to do with your parents. Men who like dominant women always had an abusive mother, men who like submissive women had a soft mother who treated them like kings, men who beat women had a father who beated their mom and men who are gay idealize men, mostly because they feel / felt weak and powerless in the presence of men, while they felt safe around women, so they think of men as something they look up to and they will do anything to impress men, even if it means sucking their cock, they are like women who live for male attention / validation

• It is true that gay men often report higher rates of childhood bullying — but this is better explained by the fact that they were perceived as different (in mannerisms, interests, or appearance) and targeted because of that difference.

 

[The Grinch]

why does this only apply to SOME gay men? most men who have been bullied are straight

You don’t know, they may are gay, but they fight those thoughts or they don’t make it public and pretend to be straight

 

[The Grinch]

• It is true that gay men often report higher rates of childhood bullying — but this is better explained by the fact that they were perceived as different (in mannerisms, interests, or appearance) and targeted because of that difference.

Being dominated and manhandled by the school chad can turn you gay, even if you weren’t before

 

[sillybilly]

You don’t know, they may are gay, but they fight those thoughts or they don’t make it public and pretend to be straight

hmmmmmmm
theres probs several reason as to why men become homosexual, almost like a perfect storm to the event

 

[sillybilly]

Being dominated and manhandled by the school chad can turn you gay, even if you weren’t before

one of my ''friends'' at school literally got crucified to a bikeshed during primary school by chad (he was 11 or 12 i think when it happened) he has a gf now (15 now)

 

[The Grinch]

one of my ''friends'' at school literally got crucified to a bikeshed during primary school by chad (he was 11 or 12 i think when it happened) he has a gf now (15 now)

I don’t know your friend, so i can’t talk about him

 

[gurt]

Every gay i know shared the same trauma. Either been bullied as teens or grew up with a single mother.

Due to being bullied by other guys, they became gay and its very simple. The mind always tries to survive, it will make you develope the craziest traits in order to make you survive in toxic environments. When you are a weak man, your mind knows you can’t survive by asserting dominance, so it will try to survive by sucking off the guy that threatens you. "If you can’t fight him, suck his dick, then maybe he will spare you or at the very least feel bad for you for being a cuck and decide to leave you alone." That’s simple psychology.

Female homosexuality has different roots

Partially true. Concordance rate for gay identical twins is “only” around 30%, higher than average still. Meaning that the other 70% would come from either hormone exposure in the womb (can still differ between identical twins, especially if placenta is not shared) or from environmental factors.

 

[sillybilly]

I don’t know your friend, so i can’t talk about him

i know him. very straight guy

 

[selfascender]

@The Grinch even though ur whole argument is stupid and retarded , does it apply to a top like me?

 

[Lefty Rankin]

I‘m not saying it’s always like that, some people just have their fetishes and desires, but acting as if there isn’t a root cause for others isn’t logical

There is a root cause but you're way off.