The Science Behind No-Fap [Megathread]

[FatJattMofo]

I mean depends on your looks ofc but what I've noticed is when you're below average and on nofap you'll just come over as an unlikable prick to people because you don't care about having slight introversion anymore etc.

i dont get it. so low psl = outward personality with nofap. thus people hate you?

 

[Deleted member 685]

i dont get it. so low psl = outward personality with nofap. thus people hate you?

If you're low psl and act overly enthusiastic in situations and try to come over more alpha you'll be seen as an annoying tryhard jerk

 

[.👽.]

Post your Contributions below, not mine but read-worthy


So I was doing a heavy amount of research on the recovery process and I noticed that there was a tremendous amount of misinformation on here about the recovery process.

I'm not the type of person to get motivated behind something unless there's some legitimate science backing it up, so I decided to provide some "facts" behind NoFap in order to help others out.

I put quotation marks around facts because at the end of the day the human body is VERY complicated, so the experts nor I can assert anything with 100% certainty (nothing in science can be proven, only substantiated). They don't call the brain "the most complicated object in the universe" just for the lulz.

These "facts" come from scientific studies, experts, and very closely related materials. If you have any corrections to add be sure to let me know (and provide the source) so I can update this.

"FACT" #1: Fapping causes increased levels of Prolactin which decreases the production of testosterone. This means that you'll end up with more estrogen in your body (i.e. you'll have an increase likelihood of having man boobs). Less testosterone = LESS sex drive (libido), less bone mass more fat distribution, less muscle mass and strength, and less production of red blood cells and sperm

"FACT" #2: Fapping leads to the accumulation of DeltaPhos-B in the reward circuit, this means that because you've injected your brain with "EXTREME" levels of dopamine (typically 2-10 times more overall than you would of gotten from natural rewards such as sex), your brain therefore gets saturated with more of this substance. In doing so the build up of this protein makes you hypersensitive to porn and makes everything else seem significantly less exciting. This is going to take on average 56 days to resolve (give or take).

"FACT" #3: Anhedonia: This is something I don't see covered on here too often (which is critically important). anhedonia is also called the "silent depression" because mostly people dont realize its a form of depression. You will feel EMOTIONALLY NUMB, I'm currently going through this right now and its god awful. Now this may not apply to everyone, but this certainly has fucked me up personally. It's a very common withdrawal symptom of alcoholics, marijuana users, cocaine users, AND EXCESS NATURAL REWARD CONSUMPTION. DAMAGED/LOST DOPAMINE RECEPTORS AND FRONTAL CORTEX CHANGES is the cause of this. I cant even look people in the eye anymore!!

"FACT" #4: Say goodbye to your body's equilibrium of Serotonin, Dopamine, and MORE: You can pretty much say goodbye to VIRTUALLY ALL of the positive hormones in your body because of this instability. This is because hormones such as dopamine and serotonin are NEURO-TRANSMITTERS. in other-words they travel from YOUR BRAIN to your body using neural pathways (and you remember what happened to those, right?). Serotonin plays a critical role in REGULATING YOUR EMOTIONS.

"FACT" #5: NoFap is NOT a 90 day magic cure: Dopamine transporters and neural pathways DO NOT magically regrow in 90 days. Can you make significant progress in 90 days? Absolutely. But its dangerous to say to people that 90 days will fix all their addiction related problems. Research indicates that it takes at least 6 months to 1 year for dopamine receptors (as well as neural networks that are responsible for serotonin) to fully regrow / or repair.

I can add alot more to this, but some of the other stuff is based on different drugs so I wanna do my best to abstain from diluting my findings. But remember, regardless if its cocaine, ecstasy, marijuana, or alcohol, ALL ADDICTIONS SHARE THE SAME MOLECULAR SWITCH: DELTAPHOS-B. The only difference is the protein's degree of influence (as well as the hormones involved and the potency of the drug).

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------WHAT TO EXPECT

• Grumpiness – Every little thing will irritate you. For me, I became extremely cynical about everything around me.
• Mood swings – As your brain tries to rebalance itself, you’ll feel like a teenage girl having her first period… Happy one minute and on the verge of tears the next. Seriously.
• Headaches – I didn’t ever experience intense migraines like some men report, but I did get subtle pressure headaches that lasted for hours at a time.
• Anxiety – Some men have legitimate panic attacks, but I experienced this more as a general feeling of stress. From the first three days for the next three months, I always felt like I had way too much to do.
• Pornographic Thoughts – Temptation during the first week is extremely intense. This is because your last pornographic experience is still fresh on your mind.
• Zombie-like State – Because your brain has been deprived of its regular Dopamine highs, it’s common for abstainers to enter a sluggish, zombie-like state. Expect low energy levels to last anywhere from two weeks to two months.
• Unable to Focus – I could not work efficiently in the first few weeks after I quit. The constant fatigue somehow made me feel restless, and things that normally took 30 minutes were now taking an hour. I had no motivation and no focus.
• Social Awkwardness – It’s hard to accurately describe this symptom, but many men echoed that they felt awkward or exposed in social settings. It feels like you constantly have your foot in your mouth.
• Low Sex Drive – You might expect your sex drive to be bursting at the seams after going without porn for a week or two, but many men report the exact opposite. Although porn will still ignite temptation when you think about it, any other sexual activity may not sound appealing while your brain reboots.
• Loneliness – Single men especially will have trouble with this one. You’ll experience loneliness, and you’ll want to escape it with porn. Don’t give in!
• Episodes of Extreme Arousal - Due to the significant impact that masturbation has on hormonal regulation, low serotonin levels lead to a significantly increase urge to perform dopamine producing activities (i.e fapping, eating sugary foods, etc, etc.. be careful with this one)!!
• Inability to Sleep - Periodic episodes of high dopamine levels will cause this due to your brain constantly struggling to reach an equilibrium in terms of hormonal balance (waking up every 2hrs included)!!

THE ADDICTION FORMULA: Increased Dopamine (from increased chronic consumption) = Delta-FosB accumulation in Reward Circuit = PHYSICAL Brain Changes =

• Numbed Pleasure Response
• Hyper-Sensitivity to Porn/ or Cocaine/ or Alcohol/or Marajuna
• Will-Power Erosion

Pics below are from Cocaine users, although the potency of the drug may differ, THE EFFECT IS STILL THE SAME.
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Might be legit but why would i stop it if you dont have a gf tbh. Just min the amount

 

[FatJattMofo]

If you're low psl and act overly enthusiastic in situations and try to come over more alpha you'll be seen as an annoying tryhard jerk

i see. did you hear about frank tufanos situation?

 

[Deleted member 685]

i see. did you hear about frank tufanos situation?

Yeah guys a massive fag

 

[FatJattMofo]

Yeah guys a massive fag

lol. its funny tbh. dudes still right about nutrition tho. gotta be honest

 

[Gazzamogga]

Abstained from jerking it for a week for the first time in years and holy fuck my dick was so swollen and aching after orgasm

Can't be healthy

 

[theanonymousone]

How bad would you say that not fapping, but still watching porn is? Because that's the biggest problem for me honestly. Not fapping is (almost) the easy part.

Can anyone recommend a good, easy web blocker I can use to block porn for myself? K9 is no longer supported, and it was very easy to bypass lol.

 

[NormieKilla]

Hard to NoFap when below5 in looks

 

[Mr.cope]

No no fap for a subhuman face no fap is cope

 

[BrettyBoy]

On day 7 of no fap.

 

[Deleted member 4053]

Ok just one more day and then I'm done fapping

 

[diggbicc]

Jfl at the coomer copers itt

 

[OOGABOOGA]

As someone who once went 9 months on nofap I vouch for it big time. Currently I’m a squirt boy tho unfortunately

 

[diggbicc]

As someone who once went 9 months on nofap I vouch for it big time. Currently I’m a squirt boy tho unfortunately

any collagen improvements? or more robust erections?

 

[JizzFarmer]

JFL at all the coping coomers. Keep sucking Jewish cock you cucks.

 

[OOGABOOGA]

any collagen improvements? or more robust erections?

Years ago bro and my dick is fucked from sleep apnea

 

[robtical]

I agree but its hard to stop fapping

 

[Ocelot]

O

Post your Contributions below, not mine but read-worthy


So I was doing a heavy amount of research on the recovery process and I noticed that there was a tremendous amount of misinformation on here about the recovery process.

I'm not the type of person to get motivated behind something unless there's some legitimate science backing it up, so I decided to provide some "facts" behind NoFap in order to help others out.

I put quotation marks around facts because at the end of the day the human body is VERY complicated, so the experts nor I can assert anything with 100% certainty (nothing in science can be proven, only substantiated). They don't call the brain "the most complicated object in the universe" just for the lulz.

These "facts" come from scientific studies, experts, and very closely related materials. If you have any corrections to add be sure to let me know (and provide the source) so I can update this.

"FACT" #1: Fapping causes increased levels of Prolactin which decreases the production of testosterone. This means that you'll end up with more estrogen in your body (i.e. you'll have an increase likelihood of having man boobs). Less testosterone = LESS sex drive (libido), less bone mass more fat distribution, less muscle mass and strength, and less production of red blood cells and sperm

"FACT" #2: Fapping leads to the accumulation of DeltaPhos-B in the reward circuit, this means that because you've injected your brain with "EXTREME" levels of dopamine (typically 2-10 times more overall than you would of gotten from natural rewards such as sex), your brain therefore gets saturated with more of this substance. In doing so the build up of this protein makes you hypersensitive to porn and makes everything else seem significantly less exciting. This is going to take on average 56 days to resolve (give or take).

"FACT" #3: Anhedonia: This is something I don't see covered on here too often (which is critically important). anhedonia is also called the "silent depression" because mostly people dont realize its a form of depression. You will feel EMOTIONALLY NUMB, I'm currently going through this right now and its god awful. Now this may not apply to everyone, but this certainly has fucked me up personally. It's a very common withdrawal symptom of alcoholics, marijuana users, cocaine users, AND EXCESS NATURAL REWARD CONSUMPTION. DAMAGED/LOST DOPAMINE RECEPTORS AND FRONTAL CORTEX CHANGES is the cause of this. I cant even look people in the eye anymore!!

"FACT" #4: Say goodbye to your body's equilibrium of Serotonin, Dopamine, and MORE: You can pretty much say goodbye to VIRTUALLY ALL of the positive hormones in your body because of this instability. This is because hormones such as dopamine and serotonin are NEURO-TRANSMITTERS. in other-words they travel from YOUR BRAIN to your body using neural pathways (and you remember what happened to those, right?). Serotonin plays a critical role in REGULATING YOUR EMOTIONS.

"FACT" #5: NoFap is NOT a 90 day magic cure: Dopamine transporters and neural pathways DO NOT magically regrow in 90 days. Can you make significant progress in 90 days? Absolutely. But its dangerous to say to people that 90 days will fix all their addiction related problems. Research indicates that it takes at least 6 months to 1 year for dopamine receptors (as well as neural networks that are responsible for serotonin) to fully regrow / or repair.

I can add alot more to this, but some of the other stuff is based on different drugs so I wanna do my best to abstain from diluting my findings. But remember, regardless if its cocaine, ecstasy, marijuana, or alcohol, ALL ADDICTIONS SHARE THE SAME MOLECULAR SWITCH: DELTAPHOS-B. The only difference is the protein's degree of influence (as well as the hormones involved and the potency of the drug).

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------WHAT TO EXPECT

• Grumpiness – Every little thing will irritate you. For me, I became extremely cynical about everything around me.
• Mood swings – As your brain tries to rebalance itself, you’ll feel like a teenage girl having her first period… Happy one minute and on the verge of tears the next. Seriously.
• Headaches – I didn’t ever experience intense migraines like some men report, but I did get subtle pressure headaches that lasted for hours at a time.
• Anxiety – Some men have legitimate panic attacks, but I experienced this more as a general feeling of stress. From the first three days for the next three months, I always felt like I had way too much to do.
• Pornographic Thoughts – Temptation during the first week is extremely intense. This is because your last pornographic experience is still fresh on your mind.
• Zombie-like State – Because your brain has been deprived of its regular Dopamine highs, it’s common for abstainers to enter a sluggish, zombie-like state. Expect low energy levels to last anywhere from two weeks to two months.
• Unable to Focus – I could not work efficiently in the first few weeks after I quit. The constant fatigue somehow made me feel restless, and things that normally took 30 minutes were now taking an hour. I had no motivation and no focus.
• Social Awkwardness – It’s hard to accurately describe this symptom, but many men echoed that they felt awkward or exposed in social settings. It feels like you constantly have your foot in your mouth.
• Low Sex Drive – You might expect your sex drive to be bursting at the seams after going without porn for a week or two, but many men report the exact opposite. Although porn will still ignite temptation when you think about it, any other sexual activity may not sound appealing while your brain reboots.
• Loneliness – Single men especially will have trouble with this one. You’ll experience loneliness, and you’ll want to escape it with porn. Don’t give in!
• Episodes of Extreme Arousal - Due to the significant impact that masturbation has on hormonal regulation, low serotonin levels lead to a significantly increase urge to perform dopamine producing activities (i.e fapping, eating sugary foods, etc, etc.. be careful with this one)!!
• Inability to Sleep - Periodic episodes of high dopamine levels will cause this due to your brain constantly struggling to reach an equilibrium in terms of hormonal balance (waking up every 2hrs included)!!

THE ADDICTION FORMULA: Increased Dopamine (from increased chronic consumption) = Delta-FosB accumulation in Reward Circuit = PHYSICAL Brain Changes =

• Numbed Pleasure Response
• Hyper-Sensitivity to Porn/ or Cocaine/ or Alcohol/or Marajuna
• Will-Power Erosion

Pics below are from Cocaine users, although the potency of the drug may differ, THE EFFECT IS STILL THE SAME.
View attachment 289414
View attachment 289415

Ok I have some questions and I would really appreciate it if you answered without bias. If you don’t know the answer it’s all good that’s better than lies. I’m not picking holes or supporting one side, I’m just looking for answers. Bear with me because my knowledge of NoFap is limited.

First; chemically I don’t think masturbation has too many differences compared to actual intercourse. I’m aware prolactin levels are higher after intercourse compared for masturbation, but that makes the case for intercourse worse. The question then, does intercourse induce the same negative effects? All the studies I’ve seen show intercourse as very beneficial for mental health. What makes masturbation different in that we should avoid it?

Second; I coom occasionally (once every week, maybe twice), and manage to fight the urge to coom more often, is it really so bad? I mean, I’m no coomer who faps to crazy shit and wants to fap whenever, wherever. I mean, why fight a biological desire of yours to such an extreme?

 

[betamanlet]

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Ok I have some questions and I would really appreciate it if you answered without bias. If you don’t know the answer it’s all good that’s better than lies. I’m not picking holes or supporting one side, I’m just looking for answers. Bear with me because my knowledge of NoFap is limited.

First; chemically I don’t think masturbation has too many differences compared to actual intercourse. I’m aware prolactin levels are higher after intercourse compared for masturbation, but that makes the case for intercourse worse. The question then, does intercourse induce the same negative effects? All the studies I’ve seen show intercourse as very beneficial for mental health. What makes masturbation different in that we should avoid it?

Intercourse (and bonding with other people in general) releases oxytocin which largely negates the negative effects of prolactin. With masturbation you are stuck to riding the surge out.

Second; I coom occasionally (once every week, maybe twice), and manage to fight the urge to coom more often, is it really so bad? I mean, I’m no coomer who faps to crazy shit and wants to fap whenever, wherever. I mean, why fight a biological desire of yours to such an extreme?

Your biological desire is to impregnate women. Anything that deviates from this is a perversion of sexuality, and thus a form of sickness. Indulging in such desire would then be a continuation of this sickness. You have no natural need to ejaculate semen at a certain frequency -- your body has all the means to recycle the fluids and sperm materials within your body (even most animals routinely go a year without ejaculating until the next breeding season). As such, the need for a release is mostly about Pavlovian conditioning. By always shooting out excess sexual energy, over time you deprogram your body's ability to harness your sexual energy as general life energy, which in turn perpetuates the cycle of experiencing excess sexual energy because it just keeps piling up.

 

[TheyCallMeDevil]

im cooming

 

[AscendingHero]

As someone who once went 9 months on nofap I vouch for it big time. Currently I’m a squirt boy tho unfortunately

Caging hard at that sig