The single biggest hunter eye breakthrough ever (GTFIH)

[SteveRogers]

As everyone knows, I’ve gone to massive lengths to achieve O’Pry tier hunter eyes, botox, fat grafting, EVERY cope etc.
The results have been decent, but I’m still yet to achieve proper, straight, horizontal, draped FULL hooding. Why?

Been deep diving for months and I think I’ve finally found the procedure that changes everything. It’s basically a modified upper bleph but without any of the gay shit - no skin removal, no fat removal, no skin tightening.

The concept is simple: most people have an insanely tight orbital retaining ligament, which stops the fat under the brow from naturally draping over the upper lid. Botox can kinda mimic the look, but if that ligament’s tight, all Botox does is drag your eyebrow down without giving that soft hooded “fat shelf.”

Want to know if you have it? Right now, place your finger 2cm above your eyebrows and push down, if your eyebrow rolls in to your orbital bone OR the supraorbital fat lowers less than the brow - you have a tight ligament. Note that almost every single person with low set brows has this - if you have high set brows then a simple frontalis botox session will grant you superior results - since you want your brows to lower in conjunction to the supraorbital fat.

The fix? A micro-release of the superior orbital / brow-retaining ligament. That’s it. They go in, bluntly release that tether, and the fat pad finally drops into position. Instant hooding, zero UEE (though you can request less of a loosening in order to retain a slight amount of UEE) pure hunter eyes.
It isn’t unreasonable to expect O’Pry tier hooding from this.

Surgeons already do this inside some blephs without realising that’s the exact part creating the aesthetic we want. Minimal swelling, almost no downtime - take me for example; after my fat grafting, I had to take 6-8 months off the gym, had a super puffy face for about 2 months, spent THOUSANDS, only to have a very subtle result, I wasn’t firm enough with my desired result - don’t get me wrong, it wasn’t a waste, but in hindsight I could’ve spent the same amount of money just from the flights and accommodation just to have this done locally for a far superior result…

I’m in the process of organising mine soon. This might actually be the biggest breakthrough I’ve seen in the hooding / hunter eye space EVER.

If you’re looking for results, you won’t find any, women are retarded (repeal the 19th amendment asap btw) and thus they go to surgeons to looksmin, meaning that surgeons are brainwashed to be reluctant for this kind of stuff, and I only stumbled upon this reading a specific study.

I will post my results inside of this thread when I have this done, which will conclude my looksmaxxing experience 6+ years after initially logging on.

Please no retarded questions, read the fucking thread or ask ChatGPT nigga.

As a side note, the lower area of this ligament (the whole thing is called orbicularis retaining ligament, but we’re concerned with the superior / brow retaining for holding) can be released to soften under eye hollows, remember, this ligament essentially sucks the fat pads into the inside of the orbital bone.
It’s part of the reason why many people with hooded eyes also happen to have less under eye hollows - it’s also synonymous with a superior shaped orbital bone - we’re essentially mimicking the outcome of superior bones.

 

[SlayerJonas]

sounds like a solid alternative to saddled supraorbital implants considering the much lower price of the blepharoplasty.

 

[Oliver12]

mirin thread good effort

 

[valentine]

take me for example; after my fat grafting, I had to take 6-8 months off the gym, had a super puffy face for about 2 months, spent THOUSANDS, only to have a very subtle result, I wasn’t firm enough with my desired result

elaborate or link original thread on fat grafts. recovery cant be that bad. its a simple procedure.

 

[cookedcel]

Sounds promising, bookmarked

 

[Deleted member 112562]

As everyone knows, I’ve gone to massive lengths to achieve O’Pry tier hunter eyes, botox, fat grafting, EVERY cope etc.
The results have been decent, but I’m still yet to achieve proper, straight, horizontal, draped FULL hooding. Why?

Been deep diving for months and I think I’ve finally found the procedure that changes everything. It’s basically a modified upper bleph but without any of the gay shit - no skin removal, no fat removal, no skin tightening.

The concept is simple: most people have an insanely tight orbital retaining ligament, which stops the fat under the brow from naturally draping over the upper lid. Botox can kinda mimic the look, but if that ligament’s tight, all Botox does is drag your eyebrow down without giving that soft hooded “fat shelf.”

Want to know if you have it? Right now, place your finger 2cm above your eyebrows and push down, if your eyebrow rolls in to your orbital bone OR the supraorbital fat lowers less than the brow - you have a tight ligament. Note that almost every single person with low set brows has this - if you have high set brows then a simple frontalis botox session will grant you superior results - since you want your brows to lower in conjunction to the supraorbital fat.

The fix? A micro-release of the superior orbital / brow-retaining ligament. That’s it. They go in, bluntly release that tether, and the fat pad finally drops into position. Instant hooding, zero UEE (though you can request less of a loosening in order to retain a slight amount of UEE) pure hunter eyes.
It isn’t unreasonable to expect O’Pry tier hooding from this.

Surgeons already do this inside some blephs without realising that’s the exact part creating the aesthetic we want. Minimal swelling, almost no downtime - take me for example; after my fat grafting, I had to take 6-8 months off the gym, had a super puffy face for about 2 months, spent THOUSANDS, only to have a very subtle result, I wasn’t firm enough with my desired result - don’t get me wrong, it wasn’t a waste, but in hindsight I could’ve spent the same amount of money just from the flights and accommodation just to have this done locally for a far superior result…

I’m in the process of organising mine soon. This might actually be the biggest breakthrough I’ve seen in the hooding / hunter eye space EVER.

If you’re looking for results, you won’t find any, women are retarded (repeal the 19th amendment asap btw) and thus they go to surgeons to looksmin, meaning that surgeons are brainwashed to be reluctant for this kind of stuff, and I only stumbled upon this reading a specific study.

I will post my results inside of this thread when I have this done, which will conclude my looksmaxxing experience 6+ years after initially logging on.

Please no retarded questions, read the fucking thread or ask ChatGPT nigga.

As a side note, the lower area of this ligament (the whole thing is called orbicularis retaining ligament, but we’re concerned with the superior / brow retaining for holding) can be released to soften under eye hollows, remember, this ligament essentially sucks the fat pads into the inside of the orbital bone.
It’s part of the reason why many people with hooded eyes also happen to have less under eye hollows - it’s also synonymous with a superior shaped orbital bone - we’re essentially mimicking the outcome of superior bones.

Can we get pics?

 

[SteveRogers]

elaborate or link original thread on fat grafts. recovery cant be that bad. its a simple procedure.

FAT GRAFTING RESULTS (HIGHLY REQUESTED)

I’m going to put minimal effort into this. Before 1 month after 4 months after (today) (If I squint I can make my eyes look exactly like the 1 month mark which were essentially relaxed at the time. All photos are the same level of relaxed, probably 2-5% squint which is my natural state) I...

looksmax.org

Lazy nigga use the search function.
The recovery is fine, if you want to retain as much fat as possible, you essentially have to commit to being immobile for half a year…

 

[valentine]

FAT GRAFTING RESULTS (HIGHLY REQUESTED)

I’m going to put minimal effort into this. Before 1 month after 4 months after (today) (If I squint I can make my eyes look exactly like the 1 month mark which were essentially relaxed at the time. All photos are the same level of relaxed, probably 2-5% squint which is my natural state) I...

looksmax.org

Lazy nigga use the search function.
The recovery is fine, if you want to retain as much fat as possible, you essentially have to commit to being immobile for half a year…

 

[zer0688]

FAT GRAFTING RESULTS (HIGHLY REQUESTED)

I’m going to put minimal effort into this. Before 1 month after 4 months after (today) (If I squint I can make my eyes look exactly like the 1 month mark which were essentially relaxed at the time. All photos are the same level of relaxed, probably 2-5% squint which is my natural state) I...

looksmax.org

Lazy nigga use the search function.
The recovery is fine, if you want to retain as much fat as possible, you essentially have to commit to being immobile for half a year…

tag me when you post pics

 

[Skitsuna]

BRO JUST BE BORN WITH IT BRUTAL
THIS IS WHAT YOU NIGGERS GET FOR BANNING @areayes

 

[hej1377]

First acctually really usefull high iq thread ive seen in a while,mirin

 

[LEFORT17]

As everyone knows, I’ve gone to massive lengths to achieve O’Pry tier hunter eyes, botox, fat grafting, EVERY cope etc.
The results have been decent, but I’m still yet to achieve proper, straight, horizontal, draped FULL hooding. Why?

Been deep diving for months and I think I’ve finally found the procedure that changes everything. It’s basically a modified upper bleph but without any of the gay shit - no skin removal, no fat removal, no skin tightening.

The concept is simple: most people have an insanely tight orbital retaining ligament, which stops the fat under the brow from naturally draping over the upper lid. Botox can kinda mimic the look, but if that ligament’s tight, all Botox does is drag your eyebrow down without giving that soft hooded “fat shelf.”

Want to know if you have it? Right now, place your finger 2cm above your eyebrows and push down, if your eyebrow rolls in to your orbital bone OR the supraorbital fat lowers less than the brow - you have a tight ligament. Note that almost every single person with low set brows has this - if you have high set brows then a simple frontalis botox session will grant you superior results - since you want your brows to lower in conjunction to the supraorbital fat.

The fix? A micro-release of the superior orbital / brow-retaining ligament. That’s it. They go in, bluntly release that tether, and the fat pad finally drops into position. Instant hooding, zero UEE (though you can request less of a loosening in order to retain a slight amount of UEE) pure hunter eyes.
It isn’t unreasonable to expect O’Pry tier hooding from this.

Surgeons already do this inside some blephs without realising that’s the exact part creating the aesthetic we want. Minimal swelling, almost no downtime - take me for example; after my fat grafting, I had to take 6-8 months off the gym, had a super puffy face for about 2 months, spent THOUSANDS, only to have a very subtle result, I wasn’t firm enough with my desired result - don’t get me wrong, it wasn’t a waste, but in hindsight I could’ve spent the same amount of money just from the flights and accommodation just to have this done locally for a far superior result…

I’m in the process of organising mine soon. This might actually be the biggest breakthrough I’ve seen in the hooding / hunter eye space EVER.

If you’re looking for results, you won’t find any, women are retarded (repeal the 19th amendment asap btw) and thus they go to surgeons to looksmin, meaning that surgeons are brainwashed to be reluctant for this kind of stuff, and I only stumbled upon this reading a specific study.

I will post my results inside of this thread when I have this done, which will conclude my looksmaxxing experience 6+ years after initially logging on.

Please no retarded questions, read the fucking thread or ask ChatGPT nigga.

As a side note, the lower area of this ligament (the whole thing is called orbicularis retaining ligament, but we’re concerned with the superior / brow retaining for holding) can be released to soften under eye hollows, remember, this ligament essentially sucks the fat pads into the inside of the orbital bone.
It’s part of the reason why many people with hooded eyes also happen to have less under eye hollows - it’s also synonymous with a superior shaped orbital bone - we’re essentially mimicking the outcome of superior bones.

did your eye area change since your fat graft post

 

[Nerd]

As everyone knows, I’ve gone to massive lengths to achieve O’Pry tier hunter eyes, botox, fat grafting, EVERY cope etc.
The results have been decent, but I’m still yet to achieve proper, straight, horizontal, draped FULL hooding. Why?

Been deep diving for months and I think I’ve finally found the procedure that changes everything. It’s basically a modified upper bleph but without any of the gay shit - no skin removal, no fat removal, no skin tightening.

The concept is simple: most people have an insanely tight orbital retaining ligament, which stops the fat under the brow from naturally draping over the upper lid. Botox can kinda mimic the look, but if that ligament’s tight, all Botox does is drag your eyebrow down without giving that soft hooded “fat shelf.”

Want to know if you have it? Right now, place your finger 2cm above your eyebrows and push down, if your eyebrow rolls in to your orbital bone OR the supraorbital fat lowers less than the brow - you have a tight ligament. Note that almost every single person with low set brows has this - if you have high set brows then a simple frontalis botox session will grant you superior results - since you want your brows to lower in conjunction to the supraorbital fat.

The fix? A micro-release of the superior orbital / brow-retaining ligament. That’s it. They go in, bluntly release that tether, and the fat pad finally drops into position. Instant hooding, zero UEE (though you can request less of a loosening in order to retain a slight amount of UEE) pure hunter eyes.
It isn’t unreasonable to expect O’Pry tier hooding from this.

Surgeons already do this inside some blephs without realising that’s the exact part creating the aesthetic we want. Minimal swelling, almost no downtime - take me for example; after my fat grafting, I had to take 6-8 months off the gym, had a super puffy face for about 2 months, spent THOUSANDS, only to have a very subtle result, I wasn’t firm enough with my desired result - don’t get me wrong, it wasn’t a waste, but in hindsight I could’ve spent the same amount of money just from the flights and accommodation just to have this done locally for a far superior result…

I’m in the process of organising mine soon. This might actually be the biggest breakthrough I’ve seen in the hooding / hunter eye space EVER.

If you’re looking for results, you won’t find any, women are retarded (repeal the 19th amendment asap btw) and thus they go to surgeons to looksmin, meaning that surgeons are brainwashed to be reluctant for this kind of stuff, and I only stumbled upon this reading a specific study.

I will post my results inside of this thread when I have this done, which will conclude my looksmaxxing experience 6+ years after initially logging on.

Please no retarded questions, read the fucking thread or ask ChatGPT nigga.

As a side note, the lower area of this ligament (the whole thing is called orbicularis retaining ligament, but we’re concerned with the superior / brow retaining for holding) can be released to soften under eye hollows, remember, this ligament essentially sucks the fat pads into the inside of the orbital bone.
It’s part of the reason why many people with hooded eyes also happen to have less under eye hollows - it’s also synonymous with a superior shaped orbital bone - we’re essentially mimicking the outcome of superior bones.

now check my pm

 

[kilgrave]

As everyone knows, I’ve gone to massive lengths to achieve O’Pry tier hunter eyes, botox, fat grafting, EVERY cope etc.
The results have been decent, but I’m still yet to achieve proper, straight, horizontal, draped FULL hooding. Why?

Been deep diving for months and I think I’ve finally found the procedure that changes everything. It’s basically a modified upper bleph but without any of the gay shit - no skin removal, no fat removal, no skin tightening.

The concept is simple: most people have an insanely tight orbital retaining ligament, which stops the fat under the brow from naturally draping over the upper lid. Botox can kinda mimic the look, but if that ligament’s tight, all Botox does is drag your eyebrow down without giving that soft hooded “fat shelf.”

Want to know if you have it? Right now, place your finger 2cm above your eyebrows and push down, if your eyebrow rolls in to your orbital bone OR the supraorbital fat lowers less than the brow - you have a tight ligament. Note that almost every single person with low set brows has this - if you have high set brows then a simple frontalis botox session will grant you superior results - since you want your brows to lower in conjunction to the supraorbital fat.

The fix? A micro-release of the superior orbital / brow-retaining ligament. That’s it. They go in, bluntly release that tether, and the fat pad finally drops into position. Instant hooding, zero UEE (though you can request less of a loosening in order to retain a slight amount of UEE) pure hunter eyes.
It isn’t unreasonable to expect O’Pry tier hooding from this.

Surgeons already do this inside some blephs without realising that’s the exact part creating the aesthetic we want. Minimal swelling, almost no downtime - take me for example; after my fat grafting, I had to take 6-8 months off the gym, had a super puffy face for about 2 months, spent THOUSANDS, only to have a very subtle result, I wasn’t firm enough with my desired result - don’t get me wrong, it wasn’t a waste, but in hindsight I could’ve spent the same amount of money just from the flights and accommodation just to have this done locally for a far superior result…

I’m in the process of organising mine soon. This might actually be the biggest breakthrough I’ve seen in the hooding / hunter eye space EVER.

If you’re looking for results, you won’t find any, women are retarded (repeal the 19th amendment asap btw) and thus they go to surgeons to looksmin, meaning that surgeons are brainwashed to be reluctant for this kind of stuff, and I only stumbled upon this reading a specific study.

I will post my results inside of this thread when I have this done, which will conclude my looksmaxxing experience 6+ years after initially logging on.

Please no retarded questions, read the fucking thread or ask ChatGPT nigga.

As a side note, the lower area of this ligament (the whole thing is called orbicularis retaining ligament, but we’re concerned with the superior / brow retaining for holding) can be released to soften under eye hollows, remember, this ligament essentially sucks the fat pads into the inside of the orbital bone.
It’s part of the reason why many people with hooded eyes also happen to have less under eye hollows - it’s also synonymous with a superior shaped orbital bone - we’re essentially mimicking the outcome of superior bones.

Dammit, already scheduled for Rattinan! At least I have a layover in Tokyo. What was it, 40% overfill from O 'Pry?

 

[SteveRogers]

Dammit, already scheduled for Rattinan! At least I have a layover in Tokyo. What was it, 40% overfill from O 'Pry?

It’s good, just make sure you massively get overfilled.
If I were you, in the consult, ask for this, I know they do it in conjunction with brown lifts so I don’t see why they wouldn’t just do this.
If you got both you’d get massive ROI.

 

[carljung]

Mirin the effort, how much will it cost?

 

[kilgrave]

It’s good, just make sure you massively get overfilled.
If I were you, in the consult, ask for this, I know they do it in conjunction with brown lifts so I don’t see why they wouldn’t just do this.
If you got both you’d get massive ROI.

Is there a particular % to go by? I saw the 'keep telling them more' method during the procedure, but if they could commit early on that would be nice as well. Either way, I intend to keep drilling the point home.

Looking forward to your results in any case.

 

[kingdruu]

Are there any clinics that you have been in talks with regarding this procedure? thinking of doing this as well since i have the fat on the upper eye lid but something is holding it back from directly being where it needs, fire post.

 

[Hide]

I wonder whos willing to do that

 

[SteveRogers]

Are there any clinics that you have been in talks with regarding this procedure? thinking of doing this as well since i have the fat on the upper eye lid but something is holding it back from directly being where it needs, fire post.

I wonder whos willing to do that

Found one

 

[Hide]

Found one

Is it mainstream

 

[pinterest]

Can u check my dm

 

[kingdruu]

Found one

Don’t gatekeep brother tell me what it is.

 

[Cidre enjoyer]

A small amount of UEE is not bad

 

[PainfulProportions]

As everyone knows, I’ve gone to massive lengths to achieve O’Pry tier hunter eyes, botox, fat grafting, EVERY cope etc.
The results have been decent, but I’m still yet to achieve proper, straight, horizontal, draped FULL hooding. Why?

Been deep diving for months and I think I’ve finally found the procedure that changes everything. It’s basically a modified upper bleph but without any of the gay shit - no skin removal, no fat removal, no skin tightening.

The concept is simple: most people have an insanely tight orbital retaining ligament, which stops the fat under the brow from naturally draping over the upper lid. Botox can kinda mimic the look, but if that ligament’s tight, all Botox does is drag your eyebrow down without giving that soft hooded “fat shelf.”

Want to know if you have it? Right now, place your finger 2cm above your eyebrows and push down, if your eyebrow rolls in to your orbital bone OR the supraorbital fat lowers less than the brow - you have a tight ligament. Note that almost every single person with low set brows has this - if you have high set brows then a simple frontalis botox session will grant you superior results - since you want your brows to lower in conjunction to the supraorbital fat.

The fix? A micro-release of the superior orbital / brow-retaining ligament. That’s it. They go in, bluntly release that tether, and the fat pad finally drops into position. Instant hooding, zero UEE (though you can request less of a loosening in order to retain a slight amount of UEE) pure hunter eyes.
It isn’t unreasonable to expect O’Pry tier hooding from this.

Surgeons already do this inside some blephs without realising that’s the exact part creating the aesthetic we want. Minimal swelling, almost no downtime - take me for example; after my fat grafting, I had to take 6-8 months off the gym, had a super puffy face for about 2 months, spent THOUSANDS, only to have a very subtle result, I wasn’t firm enough with my desired result - don’t get me wrong, it wasn’t a waste, but in hindsight I could’ve spent the same amount of money just from the flights and accommodation just to have this done locally for a far superior result…

I’m in the process of organising mine soon. This might actually be the biggest breakthrough I’ve seen in the hooding / hunter eye space EVER.

If you’re looking for results, you won’t find any, women are retarded (repeal the 19th amendment asap btw) and thus they go to surgeons to looksmin, meaning that surgeons are brainwashed to be reluctant for this kind of stuff, and I only stumbled upon this reading a specific study.

I will post my results inside of this thread when I have this done, which will conclude my looksmaxxing experience 6+ years after initially logging on.

Please no retarded questions, read the fucking thread or ask ChatGPT nigga.

As a side note, the lower area of this ligament (the whole thing is called orbicularis retaining ligament, but we’re concerned with the superior / brow retaining for holding) can be released to soften under eye hollows, remember, this ligament essentially sucks the fat pads into the inside of the orbital bone.
It’s part of the reason why many people with hooded eyes also happen to have less under eye hollows - it’s also synonymous with a superior shaped orbital bone - we’re essentially mimicking the outcome of superior bones.

The results of the fat graft are great dude good job

 

[SteveRogers]

Is it mainstream

The least mainstream thing of all time nigga jfl.
I contacted clinics in over 7 countries, from the day I made this thread to last week I was doing like 4 consults per week, literally talking about facial ligaments on job sites in front of normies

 

[SteveRogers]

Don’t gatekeep brother tell me what it is. View attachment 4607901

I want to ensure that my results are good before recommending clinics, I’m literally the first person ever to be undergoing this exact procedure, a handful of surgeons around the world will tighten this ligament (more commonly they will tighten the eyebrow retaining ligament, not superior orbital retaining, in my case, we’re doing both and that’s what this likely will become) but none would ever dream of loosening cause they’re slaves to their Jewish overlords. So naturally, I want to make sure this goes well, then when it does, I’ll be able to not only recommend, but like with fat grafting, I can educate you guys on what I would have done in retrospect, how to approach the consult, surgery etc.

 

[Jgns]

I want to ensure that my results are good before recommending clinics, I’m literally the first person ever to be undergoing this exact procedure, a handful of surgeons around the world will tighten this ligament (more commonly they will tighten the eyebrow retaining ligament, not superior orbital retaining, in my case, we’re doing both and that’s what this likely will become) but none would ever dream of loosening cause they’re slaves to their Jewish overlords. So naturally, I want to make sure this goes well, then when it does, I’ll be able to not only recommend, but like with fat grafting, I can educate you guys on what I would have done in retrospect, how to approach the consult, surgery etc.

mirin bro hope it goes well cause it is insanely interesting and can be a huge breakthrough in aesthetics if it goes well

 

[MouthBreathingElite]

I want to ensure that my results are good before recommending clinics, I’m literally the first person ever to be undergoing this exact procedure, a handful of surgeons around the world will tighten this ligament (more commonly they will tighten the eyebrow retaining ligament, not superior orbital retaining, in my case, we’re doing both and that’s what this likely will become) but none would ever dream of loosening cause they’re slaves to their Jewish overlords. So naturally, I want to make sure this goes well, then when it does, I’ll be able to not only recommend, but like with fat grafting, I can educate you guys on what I would have done in retrospect, how to approach the consult, surgery etc.

Hope it goes well bhai

 

[xzylecrey]

Goodluck man

 

[LTNUser]

Hope it goes well bhai

Hunter eyes don't really matter

 

[Hide]

The least mainstream thing of all time nigga jfl.
I contacted clinics in over 7 countries, from the day I made this thread to last week I was doing like 4 consults per week, literally talking about facial ligaments on job sites in front of normies

Ur my hope nigga all roads lead to my orbitals

 

[Lookologist003]

And the price?

 

[Lookologist003]

Let me say I'm convinced to learn more. But the study you linked isn't open access, so could you upload it to this thread, if doing so is legal. The authors call it "brow release" in the abstract. So brow release then. Google tells me this is a step in the endoscopic brow lift.

Endoscopic Brow Lift - EyeWiki

The history, procedure, and advantages of the endoscopic brow lift are discussed in detail in this article.

eyewiki.org

The temporal incisions are made down to the deep temporalis fascia in order to avoid damage of the temporal branch of the facial nerve. Dissection is then achieved with a spatulated raspatory in the temporal space to the orbital rim. Excellent release of periosteal attachments to the orbital rim are crucial. The tissue of the forehead and scalp are then mobilized superiorly to arrive at adequate elevation of the brow regions. Following the lift, the tissue is commonly secured and fixed to the bone with either anchored sutures or dissolvable implants, such as Endotines. Skin closure can be done with staples or a suture, such as a 5-0 nylon.

You're going to ask a surgeon to do half a job, or less if it's just one ligament thingy, and say that it's a looksmax. I hope for your results.

The fix? A micro-release of the superior orbital / brow-retaining ligament. That’s it. They go in, bluntly release that tether, and the fat pad finally drops into position. Instant hooding, zero UEE (though you can request less of a loosening in order to retain a slight amount of UEE) pure hunter eyes.
It isn’t unreasonable to expect O’Pry tier hooding from this.

This is what you think.

I know they do it in conjunction with brown lifts so I don’t see why they wouldn’t just do this.

Because

Following the lift, the tissue is commonly secured and fixed to the bone with either anchored sutures or dissolvable implants, such as Endotines.

Because it's a step in the process of a brow lift. Surgeons can't stop the surgery at step 4 and 5; they stop at one or the other, complete or incomplete. Unless I miss intricacies that I wouldn't be able to find on the web in the hour, you'll either get the droopy forehead, or the tight forehead. To me it is inconceivable that this effect can be localized. If it can be, who are the specialists who can pull that off?

Seems too good to be true, I don't think its the holy grail. I do hope for your results, though Steve.

 

[SteveRogers]

Let me say I'm convinced to learn more. But the study you linked isn't open access, so could you upload it to this thread, if doing so is legal. The authors call it "brow release" in the abstract. So brow release then. Google tells me this is a step in the endoscopic brow lift.

Endoscopic Brow Lift - EyeWiki

The history, procedure, and advantages of the endoscopic brow lift are discussed in detail in this article.

eyewiki.org

You're going to ask a surgeon to do half a job, or less if it's just one ligament thingy, and say that it's a looksmax. I hope for your results.


This is what you think.


Because

Because it's a step in the process of a brow lift. Surgeons can't stop the surgery at step 4 and 5; they stop at one or the other, complete or incomplete. Unless I miss intricacies that I wouldn't be able to find on the web in the hour, you'll either get the droopy forehead, or the tight forehead. To me it is inconceivable that this effect can be localized. If it can be, who are the specialists who can pull that off?

Seems too good to be true, I don't think its the holy grail. I do hope for your results, though Steve.

High IQ.

Essentially yes you’re correct, that was the original plan, and I didn’t quite fully understand why it couldn’t be done, your response will help others (but it’s obvious once you know).
What were going to do however differs slightly, also, it is localised as you can loosen / cut along the superior area of the orbital retaining ligament, which holds the soft tissue immediately BELOW its anchor point, meaning they cut in the brow area, so all of that tissue will naturally fall to the natural resting point of the eyelid, depending on how much is cut (I want maximal) - you have to remember, this isn’t creating a foreign, never seen before, environment - this is just attaining the same level of ligament pressure as someone like Kurt Russel / Josh Brolin - a naturally less “tightly wound” ligament.
So to answer your question regarding why doesn’t the forehead drop - it only affects the soft tissue below where the cutting is performed. And as for securing the ligament - you have to remember that these retarded women are wanting to looksmin; they’re actually tightening it in what you’re referencing - when you tighten a ligament you then anchor it to soft tissue or bone. We want to loosen it, the way this is mediated is via how much is cut / loosened with the maximum amount been bottlenecked at your eyelids natural resting position; remember the leveator will always hold the soft tissue.
I’m not sure if I made it clear before but in terms of the eyebrows themselves, their height is completely controlled by the frontalis, so no you won’t have eyebrows sagging.
For the people asking price, it’s 1.8k AUD - literally pennies.

 

[kingdruu]

Found one

I want to ensure that my results are good before recommending clinics, I’m literally the first person ever to be undergoing this exact procedure, a handful of surgeons around the world will tighten this ligament (more commonly they will tighten the eyebrow retaining ligament, not superior orbital retaining, in my case, we’re doing both and that’s what this likely will become) but none would ever dream of loosening cause they’re slaves to their Jewish overlords. So naturally, I want to make sure this goes well, then when it does, I’ll be able to not only recommend, but like with fat grafting, I can educate you guys on what I would have done in retrospect, how to approach the consult, surgery etc.

When are you planning to do this? mirin though, good luck

 

[AlucarddraculA121]

I had to take 6-8 months off the gym,

How/where did you get that 6-8 months number?

I also want to maximize survivability of fat graft but I always heard 2 months.

 

[Veridic]

As everyone knows, I’ve gone to massive lengths to achieve O’Pry tier hunter eyes, botox, fat grafting, EVERY cope etc.
The results have been decent, but I’m still yet to achieve proper, straight, horizontal, draped FULL hooding. Why?

Been deep diving for months and I think I’ve finally found the procedure that changes everything. It’s basically a modified upper bleph but without any of the gay shit - no skin removal, no fat removal, no skin tightening.

The concept is simple: most people have an insanely tight orbital retaining ligament, which stops the fat under the brow from naturally draping over the upper lid. Botox can kinda mimic the look, but if that ligament’s tight, all Botox does is drag your eyebrow down without giving that soft hooded “fat shelf.”

Want to know if you have it? Right now, place your finger 2cm above your eyebrows and push down, if your eyebrow rolls in to your orbital bone OR the supraorbital fat lowers less than the brow - you have a tight ligament. Note that almost every single person with low set brows has this - if you have high set brows then a simple frontalis botox session will grant you superior results - since you want your brows to lower in conjunction to the supraorbital fat.

The fix? A micro-release of the superior orbital / brow-retaining ligament. That’s it. They go in, bluntly release that tether, and the fat pad finally drops into position. Instant hooding, zero UEE (though you can request less of a loosening in order to retain a slight amount of UEE) pure hunter eyes.
It isn’t unreasonable to expect O’Pry tier hooding from this.

Surgeons already do this inside some blephs without realising that’s the exact part creating the aesthetic we want. Minimal swelling, almost no downtime - take me for example; after my fat grafting, I had to take 6-8 months off the gym, had a super puffy face for about 2 months, spent THOUSANDS, only to have a very subtle result, I wasn’t firm enough with my desired result - don’t get me wrong, it wasn’t a waste, but in hindsight I could’ve spent the same amount of money just from the flights and accommodation just to have this done locally for a far superior result…

I’m in the process of organising mine soon. This might actually be the biggest breakthrough I’ve seen in the hooding / hunter eye space EVER.

If you’re looking for results, you won’t find any, women are retarded (repeal the 19th amendment asap btw) and thus they go to surgeons to looksmin, meaning that surgeons are brainwashed to be reluctant for this kind of stuff, and I only stumbled upon this reading a specific study.

I will post my results inside of this thread when I have this done, which will conclude my looksmaxxing experience 6+ years after initially logging on.

Please no retarded questions, read the fucking thread or ask ChatGPT nigga.

As a side note, the lower area of this ligament (the whole thing is called orbicularis retaining ligament, but we’re concerned with the superior / brow retaining for holding) can be released to soften under eye hollows, remember, this ligament essentially sucks the fat pads into the inside of the orbital bone.
It’s part of the reason why many people with hooded eyes also happen to have less under eye hollows - it’s also synonymous with a superior shaped orbital bone - we’re essentially mimicking the outcome of superior bones.

I’m sure this sounds like cope, but are his eyes really that appealing to women? I mean they look like iron man’s boxy eye slits making them quite uncanny appearing.

 

[SteveRogers]

How/where did you get that 6-8 months number?

I also want to maximize survivability of fat graft but I always heard 2 months.

I was told 6 months. I just took extra as I wanted to maximise my potential results.
Tbh 3 months likely would have sufficed but there’s no way I was taking that risk, once that fat get resorbed, that’s it.

 

[Miniman333]

I was told 6 months. I just took extra as I wanted to maximise my potential results.
Tbh 3 months likely would have sufficed but there’s no way I was taking that risk, once that fat get resorbed, that’s it.

That's kind of suifuel... let's say you wait that 6 months, is there a good chance after that the fat won't get resorbed for years? Or would heavy exercise and lowering BF% significantly still put one in jeopardy?

 

[AlucarddraculA121]

I was told 6 months. I just took extra as I wanted to maximise my potential results.
Tbh 3 months likely would have sufficed but there’s no way I was taking that risk, once that fat get resorbed, that’s it.

High IQ move. It's over for me, I need this and bodymaxx (bulk) asap.

 

[SteveRogers]

That's kind of suifuel... let's say you wait that 6 months, is there a good chance after that the fat won't get resorbed for years? Or would heavy exercise and lowering BF% significantly still put one in jeopardy?

Once it’s stabilised, it’s there forever.
But yes, if you lose fat in general, you’ll temporarily lose the grafted fat in the same way you lose belly fat.
It acts the exact same as the the area you harvest it from - in my case lower abdomen, upper and lower back.
So yes, you need to stay roughly the same bf% to retain permanence in that sense.
That’s why I recommend to get auschwitz tier pre op - that way, when you stabilise at mogger bf%, in the 8-12% range, you’ll have even more fat than immediately post op.

 

[AlucarddraculA121]

Once it’s stabilised, it’s there forever.
But yes, if you lose fat in general, you’ll temporarily lose the grafted fat in the same way you lose belly fat.
It acts the exact same as the the area you harvest it from - in my case lower abdomen, upper and lower back.
So yes, you need to stay roughly the same bf% to retain permanence in that sense.
That’s why I recommend to get auschwitz tier pre op - that way, when you stabilise at mogger bf%, in the 8-12% range, you’ll have even more fat than immediately post op.

What if there wouldn't be enough fat to harvest?

 

[Miniman333]

Once it’s stabilised, it’s there forever.
But yes, if you lose fat in general, you’ll temporarily lose the grafted fat in the same way you lose belly fat.
It acts the exact same as the the area you harvest it from - in my case lower abdomen, upper and lower back.
So yes, you need to stay roughly the same bf% to retain permanence in that sense.
That’s why I recommend to get auschwitz tier pre op - that way, when you stabilise at mogger bf%, in the 8-12% range, you’ll have even more fat than immediately post op.

That's pretty reassuring, do you have an estimate on how much fat one can realistically retain after the procedure vs 6 months out? Assuming you go light in exercise and go in at a low BF%. I've seen impressive results scattered across the forum in which users have eye areas reminiscent of hunter eyes (illusion of wide PFL due to horizontal hooding) but I've noticed they're usually posted a week or two after operation. I'm guessing like over half of those surgery results dwindle in the long term?