The single biggest hunter eye breakthrough ever (GTFIH)

[SteveRogers]

Do you even need this bro?

In your fat grafting thread you eyes look great.

You have like the perfect amount of UEE, just what are you hoping to achieve.

Thanks

As I’ve said, the fat grafting results, while good, aren’t as good as the guys who came after me - I was genuinely patient zero when it came to blackpilled fat grafting, with that comes a massive short falling in results - I reckon I need 5-10x as much fat as they actually injected in order to have zero UEE.
This isn’t to say that zero UEE is ideal ALWAYS - it’s actually depended on the shape of the outer orbits - I wanted fully hooded (“draped” is a more accurate word, generally doctors are retarded and bluepilled - they think hooded means Jared Leto tier) eyes is because my outer orbits are soft and my lateral canthus lacks angularity - the only way to fix this is a) the tightening of the lateral canthal ligament (canthoplasty, canthopexy etc.) or loosening of ligaments superior to the eye that control soft tissue position (eyebrow retaining ligament, superior orbital retaining ligament - with the latter being more ideal for our intended outcome).
I’m literally patient zero once again, this time however, I’m going to go hard as fuck, the other thing is that this is a lot more predictable, accurate and convenient (and effective).

 

[killuacel]

Thanks

As I’ve said, the fat grafting results, while good, aren’t as good as the guys who came after me - I was genuinely patient zero when it came to blackpilled fat grafting, with that comes a massive short falling in results - I reckon I need 5-10x as much fat as they actually injected in order to have zero UEE.
This isn’t to say that zero UEE is ideal ALWAYS - it’s actually depended on the shape of the outer orbits - I wanted fully hooded (“draped” is a more accurate word, generally doctors are retarded and bluepilled - they think hooded means Jared Leto tier) eyes is because my outer orbits are soft and my lateral canthus lacks angularity - the only way to fix this is a) the tightening of the lateral canthal ligament (canthoplasty, canthopexy etc.) or loosening of ligaments superior to the eye that control soft tissue position (eyebrow retaining ligament, superior orbital retaining ligament - with the latter being more ideal for our intended outcome).
I’m literally patient zero once again, this time however, I’m going to go hard as fuck, the other thing is that this is a lot more predictable, accurate and convenient (and effective).

I understand.

Good luck with it, I hope it goes well.

 

[snowslayer]

Thanks

As I’ve said, the fat grafting results, while good, aren’t as good as the guys who came after me - I was genuinely patient zero when it came to blackpilled fat grafting, with that comes a massive short falling in results - I reckon I need 5-10x as much fat as they actually injected in order to have zero UEE.
This isn’t to say that zero UEE is ideal ALWAYS - it’s actually depended on the shape of the outer orbits - I wanted fully hooded (“draped” is a more accurate word, generally doctors are retarded and bluepilled - they think hooded means Jared Leto tier) eyes is because my outer orbits are soft and my lateral canthus lacks angularity - the only way to fix this is a) the tightening of the lateral canthal ligament (canthoplasty, canthopexy etc.) or loosening of ligaments superior to the eye that control soft tissue position (eyebrow retaining ligament, superior orbital retaining ligament - with the latter being more ideal for our intended outcome).
I’m literally patient zero once again, this time however, I’m going to go hard as fuck, the other thing is that this is a lot more predictable, accurate and convenient (and effective).

I was looking on the internet more about this procedure and the closest thing I seen of someone talking about it is this guy on RealSelf. This is the same procedure correct? I wonder if he performs this or just talks about it.

 

[snowslayer]

Another surgeon I found talk about it. Jeffery Epstein will be the one giving us hunter eyes lol

 

[SteveRogers]

Another surgeon I found talk about it. Jeffery Epstein will be the one giving us hunter eyes lol

Yeah nah nothing like this procedure, like, 0%.

 

[Roan]

Thanks

As I’ve said, the fat grafting results, while good, aren’t as good as the guys who came after me - I was genuinely patient zero when it came to blackpilled fat grafting, with that comes a massive short falling in results - I reckon I need 5-10x as much fat as they actually injected in order to have zero UEE.
This isn’t to say that zero UEE is ideal ALWAYS - it’s actually depended on the shape of the outer orbits - I wanted fully hooded (“draped” is a more accurate word, generally doctors are retarded and bluepilled - they think hooded means Jared Leto tier) eyes is because my outer orbits are soft and my lateral canthus lacks angularity - the only way to fix this is a) the tightening of the lateral canthal ligament (canthoplasty, canthopexy etc.) or loosening of ligaments superior to the eye that control soft tissue position (eyebrow retaining ligament, superior orbital retaining ligament - with the latter being more ideal for our intended outcome).
I’m literally patient zero once again, this time however, I’m going to go hard as fuck, the other thing is that this is a lot more predictable, accurate and convenient (and effective).

I'm planning on doing under eye fat grafting because I have genetic tear troughs and was doing research when I stumbled on your post. Would you recommend this clinic for that too? I'm worried about the level of fat loss (if 20% really is all that gets left behind) and wondering whether implants from Taban or something would just be better instead.

At the same time that upper eye fat transfer sounds really tempting too

 

[bsfh]

As everyone knows, I’ve gone to massive lengths to achieve O’Pry tier hunter eyes, botox, fat grafting, EVERY cope etc.
The results have been decent, but I’m still yet to achieve proper, straight, horizontal, draped FULL hooding. Why?

Been deep diving for months and I think I’ve finally found the procedure that changes everything. It’s basically a modified upper bleph but without any of the gay shit - no skin removal, no fat removal, no skin tightening.

The concept is simple: most people have an insanely tight orbital retaining ligament, which stops the fat under the brow from naturally draping over the upper lid. Botox can kinda mimic the look, but if that ligament’s tight, all Botox does is drag your eyebrow down without giving that soft hooded “fat shelf.”

Want to know if you have it? Right now, place your finger 2cm above your eyebrows and push down, if your eyebrow rolls in to your orbital bone OR the supraorbital fat lowers less than the brow - you have a tight ligament. Note that almost every single person with low set brows has this - if you have high set brows then a simple frontalis botox session will grant you superior results - since you want your brows to lower in conjunction to the supraorbital fat.

The fix? A micro-release of the superior orbital / brow-retaining ligament. That’s it. They go in, bluntly release that tether, and the fat pad finally drops into position. Instant hooding, zero UEE (though you can request less of a loosening in order to retain a slight amount of UEE) pure hunter eyes.
It isn’t unreasonable to expect O’Pry tier hooding from this.

Surgeons already do this inside some blephs without realising that’s the exact part creating the aesthetic we want. Minimal swelling, almost no downtime - take me for example; after my fat grafting, I had to take 6-8 months off the gym, had a super puffy face for about 2 months, spent THOUSANDS, only to have a very subtle result, I wasn’t firm enough with my desired result - don’t get me wrong, it wasn’t a waste, but in hindsight I could’ve spent the same amount of money just from the flights and accommodation just to have this done locally for a far superior result…

I’m in the process of organising mine soon. This might actually be the biggest breakthrough I’ve seen in the hooding / hunter eye space EVER.

If you’re looking for results, you won’t find any, women are retarded (repeal the 19th amendment asap btw) and thus they go to surgeons to looksmin, meaning that surgeons are brainwashed to be reluctant for this kind of stuff, and I only stumbled upon this reading a specific study.

I will post my results inside of this thread when I have this done, which will conclude my looksmaxxing experience 6+ years after initially logging on.

Please no retarded questions, read the fucking thread or ask ChatGPT nigga.

As a side note, the lower area of this ligament (the whole thing is called orbicularis retaining ligament, but we’re concerned with the superior / brow retaining for holding) can be released to soften under eye hollows, remember, this ligament essentially sucks the fat pads into the inside of the orbital bone.
It’s part of the reason why many people with hooded eyes also happen to have less under eye hollows - it’s also synonymous with a superior shaped orbital bone - we’re essentially mimicking the outcome of superior bones.

saving this in my notes thanks nigga

 

[SteveRogers]

I'm planning on doing under eye fat grafting because I have genetic tear troughs and was doing research when I stumbled on your post. Would you recommend this clinic for that too? I'm worried about the level of fat loss (if 20% really is all that gets left behind) and wondering whether implants from Taban or something would just be better instead.

At the same time that upper eye fat transfer sounds really tempting too

I would HIGHLY recommend the Bali clinic in at right now over Rattinan, hang tight I will post a thread soonish - I’m getting additional fat grafting tomorrow as well as what I’ve spoken about in order to truely lock in what I’ve been working towards.

 

[Mercurius]

I would HIGHLY recommend the Bali clinic in at right now over Rattinan, hang tight I will post a thread soonish - I’m getting additional fat grafting tomorrow as well as what I’ve spoken about in order to truely lock in what I’ve been working towards.

Good luck

Cant wait for the thread

 

[munnabhai]

Do you even need this bro?

In your fat grafting thread you eyes look great.

You have like the perfect amount of UEE, just what are you hoping to achieve.

i think its the chase and hyperfixation almost as much as the result i feel correct me if im wrong

 

[Roan]

I would HIGHLY recommend the Bali clinic in at right now over Rattinan, hang tight I will post a thread soonish - I’m getting additional fat grafting tomorrow as well as what I’ve spoken about in order to truely lock in what I’ve been working towards.

Ok thanks bro I'll keep an eye out for your post.

Also I saw a post from Dr. Dhir talking about lowering the brow for aesthetics, and specifically mentioned "releasing" it like you mentioned releasing the ligament. Think it would be the same thing you were talking about? If a US surgeon could do it I feel that would be more accessible to a lot of people here.

 

[SteveRogers]

Ok thanks bro I'll keep an eye out for your post.

Also I saw a post from Dr. Dhir talking about lowering the brow for aesthetics, and specifically mentioned "releasing" it like you mentioned releasing the ligament. Think it would be the same thing you were talking about? If a US surgeon could do it I feel that would be more accessible to a lot of people here.

That’s the frontalis muscle, nothing to do with ligaments.

 

[kilgrave]

I would HIGHLY recommend the Bali clinic in at right now over Rattinan, hang tight I will post a thread soonish - I’m getting additional fat grafting tomorrow as well as what I’ve spoken about in order to truely lock in what I’ve been working towards.

Generally speaking, how did it go?

 

[Pentoxifylline]

As everyone knows, I’ve gone to massive lengths to achieve O’Pry tier hunter eyes, botox, fat grafting, EVERY cope etc.
The results have been decent, but I’m still yet to achieve proper, straight, horizontal, draped FULL hooding. Why?

Been deep diving for months and I think I’ve finally found the procedure that changes everything. It’s basically a modified upper bleph but without any of the gay shit - no skin removal, no fat removal, no skin tightening.

The concept is simple: most people have an insanely tight orbital retaining ligament, which stops the fat under the brow from naturally draping over the upper lid. Botox can kinda mimic the look, but if that ligament’s tight, all Botox does is drag your eyebrow down without giving that soft hooded “fat shelf.”

Want to know if you have it? Right now, place your finger 2cm above your eyebrows and push down, if your eyebrow rolls in to your orbital bone OR the supraorbital fat lowers less than the brow - you have a tight ligament. Note that almost every single person with low set brows has this - if you have high set brows then a simple frontalis botox session will grant you superior results - since you want your brows to lower in conjunction to the supraorbital fat.

The fix? A micro-release of the superior orbital / brow-retaining ligament. That’s it. They go in, bluntly release that tether, and the fat pad finally drops into position. Instant hooding, zero UEE (though you can request less of a loosening in order to retain a slight amount of UEE) pure hunter eyes.
It isn’t unreasonable to expect O’Pry tier hooding from this.

Surgeons already do this inside some blephs without realising that’s the exact part creating the aesthetic we want. Minimal swelling, almost no downtime - take me for example; after my fat grafting, I had to take 6-8 months off the gym, had a super puffy face for about 2 months, spent THOUSANDS, only to have a very subtle result, I wasn’t firm enough with my desired result - don’t get me wrong, it wasn’t a waste, but in hindsight I could’ve spent the same amount of money just from the flights and accommodation just to have this done locally for a far superior result…

I’m in the process of organising mine soon. This might actually be the biggest breakthrough I’ve seen in the hooding / hunter eye space EVER.

If you’re looking for results, you won’t find any, women are retarded (repeal the 19th amendment asap btw) and thus they go to surgeons to looksmin, meaning that surgeons are brainwashed to be reluctant for this kind of stuff, and I only stumbled upon this reading a specific study.

I will post my results inside of this thread when I have this done, which will conclude my looksmaxxing experience 6+ years after initially logging on.

Please no retarded questions, read the fucking thread or ask ChatGPT nigga.

As a side note, the lower area of this ligament (the whole thing is called orbicularis retaining ligament, but we’re concerned with the superior / brow retaining for holding) can be released to soften under eye hollows, remember, this ligament essentially sucks the fat pads into the inside of the orbital bone.
It’s part of the reason why many people with hooded eyes also happen to have less under eye hollows - it’s also synonymous with a superior shaped orbital bone - we’re essentially mimicking the outcome of superior bones.

Very Nice good read

 

[SteveRogers]

Generally speaking, how did it go?

The swelling is like no other.
My eyelids still look like engorged penis shafts.
The pain during the procedure was overwhelming, I thought I was gonna pass out on multiple occasions.
I just had more fat grafting today, to ensure that the crease anchors as low as possible + to again get as much hooding as possible. Unfortunately I’m super lean so they could only get like 4cc, so 2 each side.
Here’s a photo from literally 20 mins ago 10 mins post grafting.

You can see how you have to go backwards to go forwards in this game - note the ptosis is purely swelling from last weeks ligament procedure.

 

[kilgrave]

The swelling is like no other.
My eyelids still look like engorged penis shafts.
The pain during the procedure was overwhelming, I thought I was gonna pass out on multiple occasions.
I just had more fat grafting today, to ensure that the crease anchors as low as possible + to again get as much hooding as possible. Unfortunately I’m super lean so they could only get like 4cc, so 2 each side.
Here’s a photo from literally 20 mins ago 10 mins post grafting.
View attachment 4951207
You can see how you have to go backwards to go forwards in this game - note the ptosis is purely swelling from last weeks ligament procedure.

Damn, I see what you mean with the swelling...definitely a marked difference from grafting alone. You'll go down in the annals of looksmaxing history in any case - if only for undergoing such a pioneering procedure. Honestly though...the way you describe the pain gives me pause, and that's saying a lot considering I have a bimax + revision under my belt. Balls of steel, my negro.

 

[SteveRogers]

Damn, I see what you mean with the swelling...definitely a marked difference from grafting alone. You'll go down in the annals of looksmaxing history in any case - if only for undergoing such a pioneering procedure. Honestly though...the way you describe the pain gives me pause, and that's saying a lot considering I have a bimax + revision under my belt. Balls of steel, my negro.

I’m a bitch bro I wasn’t made for this shit jfl.
Funnily enough I moleculed the first fat grafting with Rattinan like was honestly enjoyable, and my HT was pure bliss.
Tbf I could have asked for more anaesthetic.
The swelling even now is going down fairly well.

 

[kilgrave]

I’m a bitch bro I wasn’t made for this shit jfl.
Funnily enough I moleculed the first fat grafting with Rattinan like was honestly enjoyable, and my HT was pure bliss.
Tbf I could have asked for more anaesthetic.
The swelling even now is going down fairly well.

Same thing w/ Rattinan - pleasurable procedure.

Here's to hoping you achieve the sharp upper crease (with turbo lateral extension) for all our sakes!

 

[aids]

I would HIGHLY recommend the Bali clinic in at right now over Rattinan, hang tight I will post a thread soonish - I’m getting additional fat grafting tomorrow as well as what I’ve spoken about in order to truely lock in what I’ve been working towards.

Was looking to go to Rattinan at the start of July. I'll hold off until your thread. Cheers brah

 

[Roan]

The swelling is like no other.
My eyelids still look like engorged penis shafts.
The pain during the procedure was overwhelming, I thought I was gonna pass out on multiple occasions.
I just had more fat grafting today, to ensure that the crease anchors as low as possible + to again get as much hooding as possible. Unfortunately I’m super lean so they could only get like 4cc, so 2 each side.
Here’s a photo from literally 20 mins ago 10 mins post grafting.
View attachment 4951207
You can see how you have to go backwards to go forwards in this game - note the ptosis is purely swelling from last weeks ligament procedure.

You're actually crazy bro, did you only get local anesthetic and not go under?

 

[SteveRogers]

You're actually crazy bro, did you only get local anesthetic and not go under?

Just local, that’s standard.

 

[Lord_Chudd]

Bookmarked

 

[Foidslayer_17]

As everyone knows, I’ve gone to massive lengths to achieve O’Pry tier hunter eyes, botox, fat grafting, EVERY cope etc.
The results have been decent, but I’m still yet to achieve proper, straight, horizontal, draped FULL hooding. Why?

Been deep diving for months and I think I’ve finally found the procedure that changes everything. It’s basically a modified upper bleph but without any of the gay shit - no skin removal, no fat removal, no skin tightening.

The concept is simple: most people have an insanely tight orbital retaining ligament, which stops the fat under the brow from naturally draping over the upper lid. Botox can kinda mimic the look, but if that ligament’s tight, all Botox does is drag your eyebrow down without giving that soft hooded “fat shelf.”

Want to know if you have it? Right now, place your finger 2cm above your eyebrows and push down, if your eyebrow rolls in to your orbital bone OR the supraorbital fat lowers less than the brow - you have a tight ligament. Note that almost every single person with low set brows has this - if you have high set brows then a simple frontalis botox session will grant you superior results - since you want your brows to lower in conjunction to the supraorbital fat.

The fix? A micro-release of the superior orbital / brow-retaining ligament. That’s it. They go in, bluntly release that tether, and the fat pad finally drops into position. Instant hooding, zero UEE (though you can request less of a loosening in order to retain a slight amount of UEE) pure hunter eyes.
It isn’t unreasonable to expect O’Pry tier hooding from this.

Surgeons already do this inside some blephs without realising that’s the exact part creating the aesthetic we want. Minimal swelling, almost no downtime - take me for example; after my fat grafting, I had to take 6-8 months off the gym, had a super puffy face for about 2 months, spent THOUSANDS, only to have a very subtle result, I wasn’t firm enough with my desired result - don’t get me wrong, it wasn’t a waste, but in hindsight I could’ve spent the same amount of money just from the flights and accommodation just to have this done locally for a far superior result…

I’m in the process of organising mine soon. This might actually be the biggest breakthrough I’ve seen in the hooding / hunter eye space EVER.

If you’re looking for results, you won’t find any, women are retarded (repeal the 19th amendment asap btw) and thus they go to surgeons to looksmin, meaning that surgeons are brainwashed to be reluctant for this kind of stuff, and I only stumbled upon this reading a specific study.

I will post my results inside of this thread when I have this done, which will conclude my looksmaxxing experience 6+ years after initially logging on.

Please no retarded questions, read the fucking thread or ask ChatGPT nigga.

As a side note, the lower area of this ligament (the whole thing is called orbicularis retaining ligament, but we’re concerned with the superior / brow retaining for holding) can be released to soften under eye hollows, remember, this ligament essentially sucks the fat pads into the inside of the orbital bone.
It’s part of the reason why many people with hooded eyes also happen to have less under eye hollows - it’s also synonymous with a superior shaped orbital bone - we’re essentially mimicking the outcome of superior bones.

As everyone knows, I’ve gone to massive lengths to achieve O’Pry tier hunter eyes, botox, fat grafting, EVERY cope etc.
The results have been decent, but I’m still yet to achieve proper, straight, horizontal, draped FULL hooding. Why?

Been deep diving for months and I think I’ve finally found the procedure that changes everything. It’s basically a modified upper bleph but without any of the gay shit - no skin removal, no fat removal, no skin tightening.

The concept is simple: most people have an insanely tight orbital retaining ligament, which stops the fat under the brow from naturally draping over the upper lid. Botox can kinda mimic the look, but if that ligament’s tight, all Botox does is drag your eyebrow down without giving that soft hooded “fat shelf.”

Want to know if you have it? Right now, place your finger 2cm above your eyebrows and push down, if your eyebrow rolls in to your orbital bone OR the supraorbital fat lowers less than the brow - you have a tight ligament. Note that almost every single person with low set brows has this - if you have high set brows then a simple frontalis botox session will grant you superior results - since you want your brows to lower in conjunction to the supraorbital fat.

The fix? A micro-release of the superior orbital / brow-retaining ligament. That’s it. They go in, bluntly release that tether, and the fat pad finally drops into position. Instant hooding, zero UEE (though you can request less of a loosening in order to retain a slight amount of UEE) pure hunter eyes.
It isn’t unreasonable to expect O’Pry tier hooding from this.

Surgeons already do this inside some blephs without realising that’s the exact part creating the aesthetic we want. Minimal swelling, almost no downtime - take me for example; after my fat grafting, I had to take 6-8 months off the gym, had a super puffy face for about 2 months, spent THOUSANDS, only to have a very subtle result, I wasn’t firm enough with my desired result - don’t get me wrong, it wasn’t a waste, but in hindsight I could’ve spent the same amount of money just from the flights and accommodation just to have this done locally for a far superior result…

I’m in the process of organising mine soon. This might actually be the biggest breakthrough I’ve seen in the hooding / hunter eye space EVER.

If you’re looking for results, you won’t find any, women are retarded (repeal the 19th amendment asap btw) and thus they go to surgeons to looksmin, meaning that surgeons are brainwashed to be reluctant for this kind of stuff, and I only stumbled upon this reading a specific study.

I will post my results inside of this thread when I have this done, which will conclude my looksmaxxing experience 6+ years after initially logging on.

Please no retarded questions, read the fucking thread or ask ChatGPT nigga.

As a side note, the lower area of this ligament (the whole thing is called orbicularis retaining ligament, but we’re concerned with the superior / brow retaining for holding) can be released to soften under eye hollows, remember, this ligament essentially sucks the fat pads into the inside of the orbital bone.
It’s part of the reason why many people with hooded eyes also happen to have less under eye hollows - it’s also synonymous with a superior shaped orbital bone - we’re essentially mimicking the outcome of superior bones.

As everyone knows, I’ve gone to massive lengths to achieve O’Pry tier hunter eyes, botox, fat grafting, EVERY cope etc.
The results have been decent, but I’m still yet to achieve proper, straight, horizontal, draped FULL hooding. Why?

Been deep diving for months and I think I’ve finally found the procedure that changes everything. It’s basically a modified upper bleph but without any of the gay shit - no skin removal, no fat removal, no skin tightening.

The concept is simple: most people have an insanely tight orbital retaining ligament, which stops the fat under the brow from naturally draping over the upper lid. Botox can kinda mimic the look, but if that ligament’s tight, all Botox does is drag your eyebrow down without giving that soft hooded “fat shelf.”

Want to know if you have it? Right now, place your finger 2cm above your eyebrows and push down, if your eyebrow rolls in to your orbital bone OR the supraorbital fat lowers less than the brow - you have a tight ligament. Note that almost every single person with low set brows has this - if you have high set brows then a simple frontalis botox session will grant you superior results - since you want your brows to lower in conjunction to the supraorbital fat.

The fix? A micro-release of the superior orbital / brow-retaining ligament. That’s it. They go in, bluntly release that tether, and the fat pad finally drops into position. Instant hooding, zero UEE (though you can request less of a loosening in order to retain a slight amount of UEE) pure hunter eyes.
It isn’t unreasonable to expect O’Pry tier hooding from this.

Surgeons already do this inside some blephs without realising that’s the exact part creating the aesthetic we want. Minimal swelling, almost no downtime - take me for example; after my fat grafting, I had to take 6-8 months off the gym, had a super puffy face for about 2 months, spent THOUSANDS, only to have a very subtle result, I wasn’t firm enough with my desired result - don’t get me wrong, it wasn’t a waste, but in hindsight I could’ve spent the same amount of money just from the flights and accommodation just to have this done locally for a far superior result…

I’m in the process of organising mine soon. This might actually be the biggest breakthrough I’ve seen in the hooding / hunter eye space EVER.

If you’re looking for results, you won’t find any, women are retarded (repeal the 19th amendment asap btw) and thus they go to surgeons to looksmin, meaning that surgeons are brainwashed to be reluctant for this kind of stuff, and I only stumbled upon this reading a specific study.

I will post my results inside of this thread when I have this done, which will conclude my looksmaxxing experience 6+ years after initially logging on.

Please no retarded questions, read the fucking thread or ask ChatGPT nigga.

As a side note, the lower area of this ligament (the whole thing is called orbicularis retaining ligament, but we’re concerned with the superior / brow retaining for holding) can be released to soften under eye hollows, remember, this ligament essentially sucks the fat pads into the inside of the orbital bone.
It’s part of the reason why many people with hooded eyes also happen to have less under eye hollows - it’s also synonymous with a superior shaped orbital bone - we’re essentially mimicking the outcome of superior bones.

Mirin

 

[SteveRogers]

Looks so fucking painful. Can't wait tell we can better see results though.

Me too. I’m dealing with a hole burned through my eyelid with the electrocautery tool… so that’s slowing my recovery down a little.
About 1/4 of the higher crease returned on the right, and about 4/5 of the higher crease on the left returned - this simply means that that skin re stuck to the raw skin on the other side, meaning the internal scar this made via the resticking, will need to be detached, via a cannula “sweeping” across this line (its a very weak bond), then along the line of the old upper crease, some temporary filler will be induced in order to act as a barrier while the raw skin heals over. Obviously I’m annoyed at this, but the actual shape of the new low crease looks unreal, the grafting doesn’t look great since it’s surrounded by edemas and other significant swelling still one month post op.
In hindsight, I would have simply done a bride of bone canthopexy and more fat grafting, the whole point of this procedure I essentially designed was to avoid the need for fat grafting - unfortunately you still need something to act as a barrier to stop the raw skin from sticking back together, in this case we used fat, I wish we had’ve used filler (as it only needs to be temporary, the ligament dissection / release will already provide more than enough soft tissue draping.

 

[incant09]

Me too. I’m dealing with a hole burned through my eyelid with the electrocautery tool… so that’s slowing my recovery down a little.
About 1/4 of the higher crease returned on the right, and about 4/5 of the higher crease on the left returned - this simply means that that skin re stuck to the raw skin on the other side, meaning the internal scar this made via the resticking, will need to be detached, via a cannula “sweeping” across this line (its a very weak bond), then along the line of the old upper crease, some temporary filler will be induced in order to act as a barrier while the raw skin heals over. Obviously I’m annoyed at this, but the actual shape of the new low crease looks unreal, the grafting doesn’t look great since it’s surrounded by edemas and other significant swelling still one month post op.
In hindsight, I would have simply done a bride of bone canthopexy and more fat grafting, the whole point of this procedure I essentially designed was to avoid the need for fat grafting - unfortunately you still need something to act as a barrier to stop the raw skin from sticking back together, in this case we used fat, I wish we had’ve used filler (as it only needs to be temporary, the ligament dissection / release will already provide more than enough soft tissue draping.

why didn’t they use filler

 

[Public Enemy]

Is the botox lowering part important? Cant I go for chico/asian style high set eyebrows with 0 uee

 

[stigmaboy]

the fat grafting duration seems like a minor detail compared to the actual aesthetic outcome.

 

[stigmaboy]

yeah, it's pretty much genetics.

 

[stigmaboy]

yeah the fat grafting looks good, but this new procedure sounds like it might actually get the hooding he wants. still waiting to see results though.

 

[diemorquik]

Is the botox lowering part important? Cant I go for chico/asian style high set eyebrows with 0 uee

jfl i highly doubt you're in a position where you can afford to have high set brows. even chico gains dimo from them

 

[Public Enemy]

jfl i highly doubt you're in a position where you can afford to have high set brows. even chico gains dimo from them

thats sad. Is it still worth it or will it look uncanny? My brows are very high

 

[diemorquik]

thats sad. Is it still worth it or will it look uncanny? My brows are very high

yes its def worth especially if ur brows cause bad uee

 

[SigmaØ]

I would HIGHLY recommend the Bali clinic in at right now over Rattinan, hang tight I will post a thread soonish - I’m getting additional fat grafting tomorrow as well as what I’ve spoken about in order to truely lock in what I’ve been working towards.

came across your stuff for the 1st time today, read the 2 threads - you're an absolute legend mate.

cant seem to be able to access your posts, has the thread come out yet? massively looking forward to it.

also, I do believe part of your great input to the community is the international clinic vetting, so if you could write some words on that Bali clinic I'm sure many would appreciate - especially "post ratinnan hype"

anyhow, as it stands, the current conclusion on the topic is: "In hindsight, I would have simply done a bride of bone canthopexy and more fat grafting, the whole point of this procedure I essentially designed was to avoid the need for fat grafting", correct? Or would you have simply requested more anesthesia + use of filler instead of fat grafting since that was the point of this thread - to avoid fat grafting?

 

[SteveRogers]

came across your stuff for the 1st time today, read the 2 threads - you're an absolute legend mate.

cant seem to be able to access your posts, has the thread come out yet? massively looking forward to it.

also, I do believe part of your great input to the community is the international clinic vetting, so if you could write some words on that Bali clinic I'm sure many would appreciate - especially "post ratinnan hype"

anyhow, as it stands, the current conclusion on the topic is: "In hindsight, I would have simply done a bride of bone canthopexy and more fat grafting, the whole point of this procedure I essentially designed was to avoid the need for fat grafting", correct? Or would you have simply requested more anesthesia + use of filler instead of fat grafting since that was the point of this thread - to avoid fat grafting?

Thanks bro and you’re right - as it stands, I absolutely wish I had’ve gone with a pexy + more grafting.
This surgery absolutely has legs, but it’s just so much harder than I thought.
I’m getting a revision in 1-2 months, I’m planning on writing a list of guys who have expressed interest in it to tag, I’ll add you

 

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Thanks bro and you’re right - as it stands, I absolutely wish I had’ve gone with a pexy + more grafting.
This surgery absolutely has legs, but it’s just so much harder than I thought.
I’m getting a revision in 1-2 months, I’m planning on writing a list of guys who have expressed interest in it to tag, I’ll add you

Tag me with any updates please, very interested in this

 

[noob7492]

Thanks bro and you’re right - as it stands, I absolutely wish I had’ve gone with a pexy + more grafting.
This surgery absolutely has legs, but it’s just so much harder than I thought.
I’m getting a revision in 1-2 months, I’m planning on writing a list of guys who have expressed interest in it to tag, I’ll add you

hey man, i've actually come back to this thread many times since posted excited for this find

i am far from an expert, but i wanted to ask you, do you have any concerns of how this procedure will age? e.g in theory (maybe im wrong) but adding fat to undereyes and it sagging over time as one gets older theoretically could make you age a bit quicker aesthetically

is there any similar type of slight concern/worry in cutting this ligament as it perceives to accelerating aging in say 10, 15, 20 years from now?

i know that looking good in your youth is law anyways but I still would like to know about this i appreciate it if you reply hope my question isn't something you had to answer before i think i sifted through all your replies quite thoroughly, this would be something im interested in after finishing my MARPE journey since it may change my under eye area a bit.