The truth you need to hear about being attractive

Ive been browsing this site for some time as mostly an outsider and can clearly tell that you are just bunch of insecure guys circlejerking into oblivion and completely missing the point of glowing up or ascending.

The biggest problem is you are extremely focused on fixing the things you are insecure the most about that you basically dont think about anything else and just dwelve deeper into the shit, while in reality, you are the only one who really cares about it that much and the more you show how much you care about it the more people will think you are a weirdo.

Now listen to this

Its much more important to work on how you present yourself and how you appear as a whole rather than some specific trait. Your traits, good or bad, can be worked with in a sense that you can be able to „wear them“.

3 steps of impressing a girl

If you are going to try to pick up a girl there are three main steps that you should be aware of:
  • What she sees
  • What she hears
  • What she feels (sense wise)
1. What she sees

Obviously you have to care for your looks, cause the easiest way to impress a girl is just passively by looking good. But the think is that you can have a perfect face and a girl still might not be into you, Its about the way you move/carry yourself and the way you maintain yourself, thought out well fitting outfit thats not bland or basic but has some substance to it. So it doesnt matter what clothes you wear, what accesories, what haircut you have, and basically how your face looks, Its about how well you can put it together.


2. What she hears

Even if a girl thinks youre hot, if you have no personality, no humour, are boring, bland or just an narcissistic jerk who only talks about himself, she just wont like you. Imagine theres this girl whose a 10/10 stacy but is the most boring/obnoxious person on the planet, you will want to fuck her but you still wont be able to put up with her for more than a week. Now girls are much less horny and will not overlook something like that.

Also guys often try to really change how they act when they try to get a girl, which is alright, but they change it the wrong way, you want to be friendly with good humour and only use very subtle flirting. If the girl is hot she has guys approaching her all the time, she heard all pickup lines and guys trying to look tough and manly or whatever so dont bother doing that. You want her to think you are a cool dude with good humour who will be fun to spend time with. Just like if you are talking to some new guy at work basically.

Dont give direct compliments, its very important not to appear like you are simping or the other way as well so dont try to put her down or something, both approaches are bullshit.


3. What she feels

Now when you get to close proximity to her, its important to be well kept and tidy,. IF YOU SMELL ITS OVER. Bad teeth? Not ideal. But bad breath? Instant no. The same with clothes, they need to be clean, your face and hair need to look clean. Your hands, well kept nails are important. Overall you have to have excellent hygiene, thats a HUGE plus (and its the easiest thing to achieve), cause most guys dont. You have to smell nice, BUT subtle. Just having clean body and fresh clothes is more than enough, no need for perfumes or anything, more often than not, you just make it worse with bad choice/too strong of a perfume.



So yeah, your presentation is everything. You want to be seen as a clean funny chill guy that has a spark of some sort. Be passionate about ur hobbies / interests, be interested in theirs as well. Its not hard but it takes some effort to learn the art of presentation.

I used to be ugly weakling but became, according to most girls, attractive. And im nowhere near what you guys would describe as good looking. I just learned to work with what i have.
 
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not a word
 
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Plus you are all like 15 in here, if you fuck up your brains with this shit now, you will be fucked forever
 
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BOTB
 
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Just be confident bro
 
Ive been browsing this site for some time as mostly an outsider and can clearly tell that you are just bunch of insecure guys circlejerking into oblivion and completely missing the point of glowing up or ascending.

The biggest problem is you are extremely focused on fixing the things you are insecure the most about that you basically dont think about anything else and just dwelve deeper into the shit, while in reality, you are the only one who really cares about it that much and the more you show how much you care about it the more people will think you are a weirdo.

Now listen to this

Its much more important to work on how you present yourself and how you appear as a whole rather than some specific trait. Your traits, good or bad, can be worked with in a sense that you can be able to „wear them“.

3 steps of impressing a girl

If you are going to try to pick up a girl there are three main steps that you should be aware of:
  • What she sees
  • What she hears
  • What she feels (sense wise)
1. What she sees

Obviously you have to care for your looks, cause the easiest way to impress a girl is just passively by looking good. But the think is that you can have a perfect face and a girl still might not be into you, Its about the way you move/carry yourself and the way you maintain yourself, thought out well fitting outfit thats not bland or basic but has some substance to it. So it doesnt matter what clothes you wear, what accesories, what haircut you have, and basically how your face looks, Its about how well you can put it together.


2. What she hears

Even if a girl thinks youre hot, if you have no personality, no humour, are boring, bland or just an narcissistic jerk who only talks about himself, she just wont like you. Imagine theres this girl whose a 10/10 stacy but is the most boring/obnoxious person on the planet, you will want to fuck her but you still wont be able to put up with her for more than a week. Now girls are much less horny and will not overlook something like that.

Also guys often try to really change how they act when they try to get a girl, which is alright, but they change it the wrong way, you want to be friendly with good humour and only use very subtle flirting. If the girl is hot she has guys approaching her all the time, she heard all pickup lines and guys trying to look tough and manly or whatever so dont bother doing that. You want her to think you are a cool dude with good humour who will be fun to spend time with. Just like if you are talking to some new guy at work basically.

Dont give direct compliments, its very important not to appear like you are simping or the other way as well so dont try to put her down or something, both approaches are bullshit.


3. What she feels

Now when you get to close proximity to her, its important to be well kept and tidy,. IF YOU SMELL ITS OVER. Bad teeth? Not ideal. But bad breath? Instant no. The same with clothes, they need to be clean, your face and hair need to look clean. Your hands, well kept nails are important. Overall you have to have excellent hygiene, thats a HUGE plus (and its the easiest thing to achieve), cause most guys dont. You have to smell nice, BUT subtle. Just having clean body and fresh clothes is more than enough, no need for perfumes or anything, more often than not, you just make it worse with bad choice/too strong of a perfume.



So yeah, your presentation is everything. You want to be seen as a clean funny chill guy that has a spark of some sort. Be passionate about ur hobbies / interests, be interested in theirs as well. Its not hard but it takes some effort to learn the art of presentation.

I used to be ugly weakling but became, according to most girls, attractive. And im nowhere near what you guys would describe as good looking. I just learned to work with what i have.
You can’t work on your personality. You are you, always. A good personality to me can be terrible for you. There’s nothing you need to work on because if a girl doesnt accept you for who you really are, it never began
 
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You can’t work on your personality. You are you, always. A good personality to me can be terrible for you. There’s nothing you need to work on because if a girl doesnt accept you for who you really are, it never began
You very well can work on ur personality, but it takes work, just like it takes work to ge jacked
 
BOTB material, keep it up.

(LTN coping here.)
 
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Get your surgeries then take the OP advice. There’s no point polishing a turd.

I have personal experience of this.
 
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You very well can work on ur personality, but it takes work, just like it takes work to ge jacked
Personality is something that you are, you cant change that
 
Personality is something that you are, you cant change that
yes you can, you can change your behavior patterns, are you the same you were when you were 10? No, you change, environmental factors change you and your own effort can change you too
 
Get your surgeries then take the OP advice. There’s no point polishing a turd.

I have personal experience of this.
The reason why you are here is cause u are insecure of you features not cause those features actually hinder you that much, If you just accepted that you would realize people dont really care. You dont need surgeries, well definitely not for some absolute detail like your eye lid skin or whatever, maybe like a disfigured nose yeah but otherwise its stupid
 
The reason why you are here is cause u are insecure of you features not cause those features actually hinder you that much, If you just accepted that you would realize people dont really care. You dont need surgeries, well definitely not for some absolute detail like your eye lid skin or whatever, maybe like a disfigured nose yeah but otherwise its stupid
what if there is that 1 feature/flaw that is really holding you back and no matter what you do you can't fix it?

No amount of gym will fix the face

Sometimes it really is over
 
you can make up for it tho in other ways, whats holding u back is ur brain for the most part
 
fast banana made the thread unreadable so dnr but i think i agree

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Typical gray:feelsohh:
I prolly have more experience then everyone in the comments here combined, so maybe u should listen to me instead of reading ur useless bible
 
Ive been browsing this site for some time as mostly an outsider and can clearly tell that you are just bunch of insecure guys circlejerking into oblivion and completely missing the point of glowing up or ascending.

The biggest problem is you are extremely focused on fixing the things you are insecure the most about that you basically dont think about anything else and just dwelve deeper into the shit, while in reality, you are the only one who really cares about it that much and the more you show how much you care about it the more people will think you are a weirdo.

Now listen to this

Its much more important to work on how you present yourself and how you appear as a whole rather than some specific trait. Your traits, good or bad, can be worked with in a sense that you can be able to „wear them“.

3 steps of impressing a girl

If you are going to try to pick up a girl there are three main steps that you should be aware of:
  • What she sees
  • What she hears
  • What she feels (sense wise)
1. What she sees

Obviously you have to care for your looks, cause the easiest way to impress a girl is just passively by looking good. But the think is that you can have a perfect face and a girl still might not be into you, Its about the way you move/carry yourself and the way you maintain yourself, thought out well fitting outfit thats not bland or basic but has some substance to it. So it doesnt matter what clothes you wear, what accesories, what haircut you have, and basically how your face looks, Its about how well you can put it together.


2. What she hears

Even if a girl thinks youre hot, if you have no personality, no humour, are boring, bland or just an narcissistic jerk who only talks about himself, she just wont like you. Imagine theres this girl whose a 10/10 stacy but is the most boring/obnoxious person on the planet, you will want to fuck her but you still wont be able to put up with her for more than a week. Now girls are much less horny and will not overlook something like that.

Also guys often try to really change how they act when they try to get a girl, which is alright, but they change it the wrong way, you want to be friendly with good humour and only use very subtle flirting. If the girl is hot she has guys approaching her all the time, she heard all pickup lines and guys trying to look tough and manly or whatever so dont bother doing that. You want her to think you are a cool dude with good humour who will be fun to spend time with. Just like if you are talking to some new guy at work basically.

Dont give direct compliments, its very important not to appear like you are simping or the other way as well so dont try to put her down or something, both approaches are bullshit.


3. What she feels

Now when you get to close proximity to her, its important to be well kept and tidy,. IF YOU SMELL ITS OVER. Bad teeth? Not ideal. But bad breath? Instant no. The same with clothes, they need to be clean, your face and hair need to look clean. Your hands, well kept nails are important. Overall you have to have excellent hygiene, thats a HUGE plus (and its the easiest thing to achieve), cause most guys dont. You have to smell nice, BUT subtle. Just having clean body and fresh clothes is more than enough, no need for perfumes or anything, more often than not, you just make it worse with bad choice/too strong of a perfume.



So yeah, your presentation is everything. You want to be seen as a clean funny chill guy that has a spark of some sort. Be passionate about ur hobbies / interests, be interested in theirs as well. Its not hard but it takes some effort to learn the art of presentation.

I used to be ugly weakling but became, according to most girls, attractive. And im nowhere near what you guys would describe as good looking. I just learned to work with what i have.
how to get girls step 1 be attractive pretty much what you just said
 
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Ive been browsing this site for some time as mostly an outsider and can clearly tell that you are just bunch of insecure guys circlejerking into oblivion and completely missing the point of glowing up or ascending.

The biggest problem is you are extremely focused on fixing the things you are insecure the most about that you basically dont think about anything else and just dwelve deeper into the shit, while in reality, you are the only one who really cares about it that much and the more you show how much you care about it the more people will think you are a weirdo.

Now listen to this

Its much more important to work on how you present yourself and how you appear as a whole rather than some specific trait. Your traits, good or bad, can be worked with in a sense that you can be able to „wear them“.

3 steps of impressing a girl

If you are going to try to pick up a girl there are three main steps that you should be aware of:
  • What she sees
  • What she hears
  • What she feels (sense wise)
1. What she sees

Obviously you have to care for your looks, cause the easiest way to impress a girl is just passively by looking good. But the think is that you can have a perfect face and a girl still might not be into you, Its about the way you move/carry yourself and the way you maintain yourself, thought out well fitting outfit thats not bland or basic but has some substance to it. So it doesnt matter what clothes you wear, what accesories, what haircut you have, and basically how your face looks, Its about how well you can put it together.


2. What she hears

Even if a girl thinks youre hot, if you have no personality, no humour, are boring, bland or just an narcissistic jerk who only talks about himself, she just wont like you. Imagine theres this girl whose a 10/10 stacy but is the most boring/obnoxious person on the planet, you will want to fuck her but you still wont be able to put up with her for more than a week. Now girls are much less horny and will not overlook something like that.

Also guys often try to really change how they act when they try to get a girl, which is alright, but they change it the wrong way, you want to be friendly with good humour and only use very subtle flirting. If the girl is hot she has guys approaching her all the time, she heard all pickup lines and guys trying to look tough and manly or whatever so dont bother doing that. You want her to think you are a cool dude with good humour who will be fun to spend time with. Just like if you are talking to some new guy at work basically.

Dont give direct compliments, its very important not to appear like you are simping or the other way as well so dont try to put her down or something, both approaches are bullshit.


3. What she feels

Now when you get to close proximity to her, its important to be well kept and tidy,. IF YOU SMELL ITS OVER. Bad teeth? Not ideal. But bad breath? Instant no. The same with clothes, they need to be clean, your face and hair need to look clean. Your hands, well kept nails are important. Overall you have to have excellent hygiene, thats a HUGE plus (and its the easiest thing to achieve), cause most guys dont. You have to smell nice, BUT subtle. Just having clean body and fresh clothes is more than enough, no need for perfumes or anything, more often than not, you just make it worse with bad choice/too strong of a perfume.



So yeah, your presentation is everything. You want to be seen as a clean funny chill guy that has a spark of some sort. Be passionate about ur hobbies / interests, be interested in theirs as well. Its not hard but it takes some effort to learn the art of presentation.

I used to be ugly weakling but became, according to most girls, attractive. And im nowhere near what you guys would describe as good looking. I just learned to work with what i have.
Hymen + DNR + Not a word + Greycel
 
Ive been browsing this site for some time as mostly an outsider and can clearly tell that you are just bunch of insecure guys circlejerking into oblivion and completely missing the point of glowing up or ascending.

The biggest problem is you are extremely focused on fixing the things you are insecure the most about that you basically dont think about anything else and just dwelve deeper into the shit, while in reality, you are the only one who really cares about it that much and the more you show how much you care about it the more people will think you are a weirdo.

Now listen to this

Its much more important to work on how you present yourself and how you appear as a whole rather than some specific trait. Your traits, good or bad, can be worked with in a sense that you can be able to „wear them“.

3 steps of impressing a girl

If you are going to try to pick up a girl there are three main steps that you should be aware of:
  • What she sees
  • What she hears
  • What she feels (sense wise)
1. What she sees

Obviously you have to care for your looks, cause the easiest way to impress a girl is just passively by looking good. But the think is that you can have a perfect face and a girl still might not be into you, Its about the way you move/carry yourself and the way you maintain yourself, thought out well fitting outfit thats not bland or basic but has some substance to it. So it doesnt matter what clothes you wear, what accesories, what haircut you have, and basically how your face looks, Its about how well you can put it together.


2. What she hears

Even if a girl thinks youre hot, if you have no personality, no humour, are boring, bland or just an narcissistic jerk who only talks about himself, she just wont like you. Imagine theres this girl whose a 10/10 stacy but is the most boring/obnoxious person on the planet, you will want to fuck her but you still wont be able to put up with her for more than a week. Now girls are much less horny and will not overlook something like that.

Also guys often try to really change how they act when they try to get a girl, which is alright, but they change it the wrong way, you want to be friendly with good humour and only use very subtle flirting. If the girl is hot she has guys approaching her all the time, she heard all pickup lines and guys trying to look tough and manly or whatever so dont bother doing that. You want her to think you are a cool dude with good humour who will be fun to spend time with. Just like if you are talking to some new guy at work basically.

Dont give direct compliments, its very important not to appear like you are simping or the other way as well so dont try to put her down or something, both approaches are bullshit.


3. What she feels

Now when you get to close proximity to her, its important to be well kept and tidy,. IF YOU SMELL ITS OVER. Bad teeth? Not ideal. But bad breath? Instant no. The same with clothes, they need to be clean, your face and hair need to look clean. Your hands, well kept nails are important. Overall you have to have excellent hygiene, thats a HUGE plus (and its the easiest thing to achieve), cause most guys dont. You have to smell nice, BUT subtle. Just having clean body and fresh clothes is more than enough, no need for perfumes or anything, more often than not, you just make it worse with bad choice/too strong of a perfume.



So yeah, your presentation is everything. You want to be seen as a clean funny chill guy that has a spark of some sort. Be passionate about ur hobbies / interests, be interested in theirs as well. Its not hard but it takes some effort to learn the art of presentation.

I used to be ugly weakling but became, according to most girls, attractive. And im nowhere near what you guys would describe as good looking. I just learned to work with what i have.
why are you yapping so hard like damn
 
how to get girls step 1 be attractive pretty much what you just said
no, I said, just do the most basic simple stuff you can to improve and then focus on more important things than looks
 
yes you can, you can change your behavior patterns, are you the same you were when you were 10? No, you change, environmental factors change you and your own effort can change you too
Depends. Ofc, most people can try to change through different habits and stuff but sometimes there are aspects of a personality that are indeed unchangeable (whether it be through past experiences shaping the way you are or maybe some genetic factor, probably just a mix of the 2). Either way though, if you are trying to force this personality that can make you seem more "attractive", not only is personality itself subjected to many factors (a way a person looks can dictate how their personality is presented, be it their clothing, face, height, and even social norms in the area), it is not a genuine way to live life. Obviously being a redneck coomer degenerate is a personality type/lifestyle that you should not be (I still managed to get girls acting very non NT but even that was just because of my face) is just living a lie you made. Like I said before, there are obviously traits that you should get rid of since they are universally bad for YOU and others seeing you but with personality types like slight introversion, shyness, or perhaps liking some activities not associated with popular stuff- just trying to do that without interest (and let's be honest there are going to be a sizable portion who will still not have any interest after doing these things) are a form of just mental slavery.

Also, most people in my eyes do tend to follow the life script their past has shown them. I visited a very nerdy fat friend that I used to talk to have a few years ago and guess what? He was still nerdy and fat? The jocks I've seen in my high school acted the same way and are now going to college football/other sports, etc. Simply saying change your personality is no easier then changing your looks.

I will agree with you though that a majority of people here are just mentally locked in cages and it is unironically a personality issue for them. Honestly, the looks rating here is quite harsh and many people here are quite above average in appearance.
 
Ive been browsing this site for some time as mostly an outsider and can clearly tell that you are just bunch of insecure guys circlejerking into oblivion and completely missing the point of glowing up or ascending.

The biggest problem is you are extremely focused on fixing the things you are insecure the most about that you basically dont think about anything else and just dwelve deeper into the shit, while in reality, you are the only one who really cares about it that much and the more you show how much you care about it the more people will think you are a weirdo.

Now listen to this

Its much more important to work on how you present yourself and how you appear as a whole rather than some specific trait. Your traits, good or bad, can be worked with in a sense that you can be able to „wear them“.

3 steps of impressing a girl

If you are going to try to pick up a girl there are three main steps that you should be aware of:
  • What she sees
  • What she hears
  • What she feels (sense wise)
1. What she sees

Obviously you have to care for your looks, cause the easiest way to impress a girl is just passively by looking good. But the think is that you can have a perfect face and a girl still might not be into you, Its about the way you move/carry yourself and the way you maintain yourself, thought out well fitting outfit thats not bland or basic but has some substance to it. So it doesnt matter what clothes you wear, what accesories, what haircut you have, and basically how your face looks, Its about how well you can put it together.


2. What she hears

Even if a girl thinks youre hot, if you have no personality, no humour, are boring, bland or just an narcissistic jerk who only talks about himself, she just wont like you. Imagine theres this girl whose a 10/10 stacy but is the most boring/obnoxious person on the planet, you will want to fuck her but you still wont be able to put up with her for more than a week. Now girls are much less horny and will not overlook something like that.

Also guys often try to really change how they act when they try to get a girl, which is alright, but they change it the wrong way, you want to be friendly with good humour and only use very subtle flirting. If the girl is hot she has guys approaching her all the time, she heard all pickup lines and guys trying to look tough and manly or whatever so dont bother doing that. You want her to think you are a cool dude with good humour who will be fun to spend time with. Just like if you are talking to some new guy at work basically.

Dont give direct compliments, its very important not to appear like you are simping or the other way as well so dont try to put her down or something, both approaches are bullshit.


3. What she feels

Now when you get to close proximity to her, its important to be well kept and tidy,. IF YOU SMELL ITS OVER. Bad teeth? Not ideal. But bad breath? Instant no. The same with clothes, they need to be clean, your face and hair need to look clean. Your hands, well kept nails are important. Overall you have to have excellent hygiene, thats a HUGE plus (and its the easiest thing to achieve), cause most guys dont. You have to smell nice, BUT subtle. Just having clean body and fresh clothes is more than enough, no need for perfumes or anything, more often than not, you just make it worse with bad choice/too strong of a perfume.



So yeah, your presentation is everything. You want to be seen as a clean funny chill guy that has a spark of some sort. Be passionate about ur hobbies / interests, be interested in theirs as well. Its not hard but it takes some effort to learn the art of presentation.

I used to be ugly weakling but became, according to most girls, attractive. And im nowhere near what you guys would describe as good looking. I just learned to work with what i have.
You are correct on some parts. Yet. Does any woman want an average man when they get better? You are not desired. You just pretend to be.
 
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You are correct on some parts. Yet. Does any woman want an average man when they get better? You are not desired. You just pretend to be.
Women dont know what they want until you show them. You just have to sell yourself well. Its simple yet not easy to put into practice
 
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Depends. Ofc, most people can try to change through different habits and stuff but sometimes there are aspects of a personality that are indeed unchangeable (whether it be through past experiences shaping the way you are or maybe some genetic factor, probably just a mix of the 2). Either way though, if you are trying to force this personality that can make you seem more "attractive", not only is personality itself subjected to many factors (a way a person looks can dictate how their personality is presented, be it their clothing, face, height, and even social norms in the area), it is not a genuine way to live life. Obviously being a redneck coomer degenerate is a personality type/lifestyle that you should not be (I still managed to get girls acting very non NT but even that was just because of my face) is just living a lie you made. Like I said before, there are obviously traits that you should get rid of since they are universally bad for YOU and others seeing you but with personality types like slight introversion, shyness, or perhaps liking some activities not associated with popular stuff- just trying to do that without interest (and let's be honest there are going to be a sizable portion who will still not have any interest after doing these things) are a form of just mental slavery.

Also, most people in my eyes do tend to follow the life script their past has shown them. I visited a very nerdy fat friend that I used to talk to have a few years ago and guess what? He was still nerdy and fat? The jocks I've seen in my high school acted the same way and are now going to college football/other sports, etc. Simply saying change your personality is no easier then changing your looks.

I will agree with you though that a majority of people here are just mentally locked in cages and it is unironically a personality issue for them. Honestly, the looks rating here is quite harsh and many people here are quite above average in appearance.
Yes you are right in what you are saying. What I meant is that you can work on the small negative traits you have, obviously you cannot completely change the foundation of your personality. But theres no „best“ overall personality, different personalities attract different people. So every personality type can work as long as you fine tune it.
 
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Ive been browsing this site for some time as mostly an outsider and can clearly tell that you are just bunch of insecure guys circlejerking into oblivion and completely missing the point of glowing up or ascending.

The biggest problem is you are extremely focused on fixing the things you are insecure the most about that you basically dont think about anything else and just dwelve deeper into the shit, while in reality, you are the only one who really cares about it that much and the more you show how much you care about it the more people will think you are a weirdo.

Now listen to this

Its much more important to work on how you present yourself and how you appear as a whole rather than some specific trait. Your traits, good or bad, can be worked with in a sense that you can be able to „wear them“.

3 steps of impressing a girl

If you are going to try to pick up a girl there are three main steps that you should be aware of:
  • What she sees
  • What she hears
  • What she feels (sense wise)
1. What she sees

Obviously you have to care for your looks, cause the easiest way to impress a girl is just passively by looking good. But the think is that you can have a perfect face and a girl still might not be into you, Its about the way you move/carry yourself and the way you maintain yourself, thought out well fitting outfit thats not bland or basic but has some substance to it. So it doesnt matter what clothes you wear, what accesories, what haircut you have, and basically how your face looks, Its about how well you can put it together.


2. What she hears

Even if a girl thinks youre hot, if you have no personality, no humour, are boring, bland or just an narcissistic jerk who only talks about himself, she just wont like you. Imagine theres this girl whose a 10/10 stacy but is the most boring/obnoxious person on the planet, you will want to fuck her but you still wont be able to put up with her for more than a week. Now girls are much less horny and will not overlook something like that.

Also guys often try to really change how they act when they try to get a girl, which is alright, but they change it the wrong way, you want to be friendly with good humour and only use very subtle flirting. If the girl is hot she has guys approaching her all the time, she heard all pickup lines and guys trying to look tough and manly or whatever so dont bother doing that. You want her to think you are a cool dude with good humour who will be fun to spend time with. Just like if you are talking to some new guy at work basically.

Dont give direct compliments, its very important not to appear like you are simping or the other way as well so dont try to put her down or something, both approaches are bullshit.


3. What she feels

Now when you get to close proximity to her, its important to be well kept and tidy,. IF YOU SMELL ITS OVER. Bad teeth? Not ideal. But bad breath? Instant no. The same with clothes, they need to be clean, your face and hair need to look clean. Your hands, well kept nails are important. Overall you have to have excellent hygiene, thats a HUGE plus (and its the easiest thing to achieve), cause most guys dont. You have to smell nice, BUT subtle. Just having clean body and fresh clothes is more than enough, no need for perfumes or anything, more often than not, you just make it worse with bad choice/too strong of a perfume.



So yeah, your presentation is everything. You want to be seen as a clean funny chill guy that has a spark of some sort. Be passionate about ur hobbies / interests, be interested in theirs as well. Its not hard but it takes some effort to learn the art of presentation.

I used to be ugly weakling but became, according to most girls, attractive. And im nowhere near what you guys would describe as good looking. I just learned to work with what i have.
ive been literally told face to face "i like you when you are more mysoginist with me"
"i wanna be your toy"
"you're just better than all the other guys"
The only thing going for me is my eye area with high psl. Personality matters for shit, just be dark triad if you can pull it off, if not be light triad without being naive. Be somewhat NT, non NT girls wont mind a bit of weirdness, but never talk about psl, how insecure you feel or whatever other bullshit, like programming, or actually interesting stuff like the soul with her (unless she's an occult bitch in which case chances are shes no higher than mtb) the woman is for you to have fun with and nothing more, you're made to have your way and fun with her, and maybe she'll support a bit of your journey.

I met a 136iq THICK mtb who would always come back to me, and she still wouldnt understand my dreams.
Guys, women are utterly retarded, but you can still love them, like you'd love a pet, but never expect the love you felt from your mother or father. You give them some commitment, maybe a lot if you spy on them to be sure shes not cheating, make her a teeny tiny bit insecure, not listen to her demands, and keep the mog into your 40's. The other thigns like being funny matter only to upset the negative halo you have from not being actually good looking. if a normie rates you 6/10 thats like a 4.5 psl MAX. You can fake NTness but never for too long either, but you need to be htn and up to get your own autistic bitch. The rest of personality traits genuinely do not matter in the slightest, if she thinks you cant commit, try to convince her otherwise but never fully, make it faulty. Do things like "i may be able to get another bitch but i only want you" to make her feel special but undermining her at the end
 
ive been literally told face to face "i like you when you are more mysoginist with me"
"i wanna be your toy"
"you're just better than all the other guys"
The only thing going for me is my eye area with high psl. Personality matters for shit, just be dark triad if you can pull it off, if not be light triad without being naive. Be somewhat NT, non NT girls wont mind a bit of weirdness, but never talk about psl, how insecure you feel or whatever other bullshit, like programming, or actually interesting stuff like the soul with her (unless she's an occult bitch in which case chances are shes no higher than mtb) the woman is for you to have fun with and nothing more, you're made to have your way and fun with her, and maybe she'll support a bit of your journey.

I met a 136iq THICK mtb who would always come back to me, and she still wouldnt understand my dreams.
Guys, women are utterly retarded, but you can still love them, like you'd love a pet, but never expect the love you felt from your mother or father. You give them some commitment, maybe a lot if you spy on them to be sure shes not cheating, make her a teeny tiny bit insecure, not listen to her demands, and keep the mog into your 40's. The other thigns like being funny matter only to upset the negative halo you have from not being actually good looking. if a normie rates you 6/10 thats like a 4.5 psl MAX. You can fake NTness but never for too long either, but you need to be htn and up to get your own autistic bitch. The rest of personality traits genuinely do not matter in the slightest, if she thinks you cant commit, try to convince her otherwise but never fully, make it faulty. Do things like "i may be able to get another bitch but i only want you" to make her feel special but undermining her at the end
That is actually a strategy that works but is really shortterm, do that with whores u dont care about but If u find a good girl dont do that as it will just make u feel guilty in the end, even tho it might make u feel safer as u wont commit as much as she does. Its better to be honest and kind as you would like to be treated urself. The upside to this strategy is that even if it doesnt work out u can be happy that u behaved in sync with ur values. If u treat her like shit and she still leaves u will feel like shit cause she left AND cause you acted like a jerk.
 

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