the trvthnvke about "female gaze", prettyboys & Gen Z masculinity (foid blocked me)

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Guys, stop adapting to this faggot TikTok beauty standards for males in 2025. It's all part of globalist agenda against masculinity. And don't get me wrong, I'm not one of those redpill "alphas", I'm actually the one who always laughed at guys like Hamza, Tate, Aaron Marino etc.
They're not the epitome of masculinity, they're the epitome of fake masculinity, they're the fake alphas.



What do these guys have to do with my point? Well, the so called manosphere has been infested by those guys for years so the very idea of masculinity has become associated with them - the fake alphas. I don't have to discuss why are they fake alphas, you're all blackpilled enough to know money, cars and status can't compensate for shitty skull shape, recessed maxilla and lack of harmony. So, as we all know it, since it's water, that PSL Gods, male models, actors etc. are the actual alpha males, why did it become a trend among zoomers that feminine guys are now considered "moggers" then?

All PSL Gods are masculine to hypermasculine (as men are supposed to be). Then why did you adopt so called "female gaze"? Do you think a mogger (mog - amog - alpha male of the group) is supposed to look feminine and not dimorphic? The epitome of masculinity is a guy with pumped lips, purposely curved eyelashes, homosexually perfect skin (you're not supposed to "skin-mog" 90% of women :forcedsmile::forcedsmile:) and that one with zero angularity? Is that what a mogger is supposed to look like? Is that what a man is supposed to strive to?

You're not guilty. You've just been a victim of this global war on masculinity, which is wholeheartedly supported by (shocker) most modern women (who are feminist ofc). And guess what? They just see you as a good slave and a suppressed male pig. They don't find you attractive, they still drool over alpha males (actual moggers). It's only low E girls (who aren't even mature sometimes) that find your "prettyboy" looks appealing. [ofc I'm not talking about legit prettyboys who are just youthful Chads with longer hair] And most of those girls are confused about their sexuality or even gender anyway. So do you actually want to be their girlfriend with penis?

"Female gaze" is such a cope term forced by so called "prettyboymaxxers" (I used to be one as well) because there's no such thing as universal female gaze. Those guys will tell you that what "JBs" (low E skinny girls with messed up hormones) find attractive is the universal law, that it's the only type girls are attracted to... Guys, let's be honest, we all know that even "baldcels" and "gymcels" are attractive to some women, because high T men attract high E women (water). Then why tf are you supposed to appeal to low E women? Why don't you just embrace your masculinity which is what every healthy female desires (as long as you're attractive)?

That's why there's no such thing as female gaze, it's beyond stupid term. Actual female gaze is what healthy heterosexual women of any age find attractive - that is a MASCULINE MALE. No matter if he's young and beardless, early middle-aged with a stubble or an oldcel with no hair and long beard. It's just natural. And please, don't confuse youthfulness with femininity.





Gen Z guys should realise masculinity in looksmaxxing is law and everything else is cope and has anti-male roots. Don't allow them to take your masculinity.

And I have a brief story about how some random 24 yo girl brutally blackpilled me on masculinity: she told me she wants to submit to the strongest man she finds. She told me it's big muscles that matter, it's what attract her as a woman with solid feminine gymmaxxed body. So it's clear that gymmaxing isn't cope, we've just been deluded to think that because the fake alphas I mentioned misguided us. BODY MATTERS and the bigger you are the better. She didn't mention height or face, but we both know it matters as well... However, it was brutal when she asked me for my height and then weight and then she immediately stoped responding and BLOCKED ME. For the record, I'm really skinny, a bit above 140lbs. She didn't ask me if I'm "lean" or do I have 6-pack - IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER.

So what I learnt from her? The bigger muscles a male has the better. It's the same as for height, frame, facial bones, dick, foot size... WOMEN WANT HANDSOME AND/OR GIANTS. So stop faggotmaxxing, become a real man ffs.


How a 13-Year-Old Boy Brought Down L.A.'s Most Notorious Serial Killer -  LAmag
Peter Steele - IMDb
Oliver Kahn, Karlsruher... - Mundial Style - Vintage Football | Facebook
230 Young johnny depp ideas | young johnny depp, johnny depp, johnny


inspired by @chadisbeingmade's thread:

tags: @forevergymcelling @HeavyMetalcel @Clown Show @BoredPrince @aspiringexcel @St.TikTokcel @Debetro @Lonenely sigma @shizuku11111 @cytoplasm @Skara @Klasik616
 
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Who tf is faggotmaxxing. We all want to have bones nigga?
 
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Guys, stop adapting to this faggot TikTok beauty standards for males in 2025. It's all part of globalist agenda against masculinity. And don't get me wrong, I'm not one of those redpill "alphas", I'm actually the one who always laughed at guys like Hamza, Tate, Aaron Marino etc.
They're not the epitome of masculinity, they're the epitome of fake masculinity, they're the fake alphas.



What do these guys have to do with my point? Well, the so called manosphere has been infested by those guys for years so the very idea of masculinity has become associated with them - the fake alphas. I don't have to discuss why are they fake alphas, you're all blackpilled enough to know money, cars and status can't compensate for shitty skull shape, recessed maxilla and lack of harmony. So, as we all know it, since it's water, that PSL Gods, male models, actors etc. are the actual alpha males, why did it become a trend among zoomers that feminine guys are now considered "moggers" then?

All PSL Gods are masculine to hypermasculine (as men are supposed to be). Then why did you adopt so called "female gaze"? Do you think a mogger (mog - amog - alpha male of the group) is supposed to look feminine and not dimorphic? The epitome of masculinity is a guy with pumped lips, purposely curved eyelashes, homosexually perfect skin (you're not supposed to "skin-mog" 90% of women :forcedsmile::forcedsmile:) and that one with zero angularity? Is that what a mogger is supposed to look like? Is that what a man is supposed to strive to?

You're not guilty. You've just been a victim of this global war on masculinity, which is wholeheartedly supported by (shocker) most modern women (who are feminist ofc). And guess what? They just see you as a good slave and a suppressed male pig. They don't find you attractive, they still drool over alpha males (actual moggers). It's only low E girls (who aren't even mature sometimes) that find your "prettyboy" looks appealing. [ofc I'm not talking about legit prettyboys who are just youthful Chads with longer hair] And most of those girls are confused about their sexuality or even gender anyway. So do you actually want to be their girlfriend with penis?

"Female gaze" is such a cope term forced by so called "prettyboymaxxers" (I used to be one as well) because there's no such thing as universal female gaze. Those guys will tell you that what "JBs" (low E skinny girls with messed up hormones) find attractive is the universal law, that it's the only type girls are attracted to... Guys, let's be honest, we all know that even "baldcels" and "gymcels" are attractive to some women, because high T men attract high E women (water). Then why tf are you supposed to appeal to low E women? Why don't you just embrace your masculinity which is what every healthy female desires (as long as you're attractive)?

That's why there's no such thing as female gaze, it's beyond stupid term. Actual female gaze is what healthy heterosexual women of any age find attractive - that is a MASCULINE MALE. No matter if he's young and beardless, early middle-aged with a stubble or an oldcel with no hair and long beard. It's just natural. And please, don't confuse youthfulness with femininity.





Gen Z guys should realise masculinity in looksmaxxing is law and everything else is cope and has anti-male roots. Don't allow them to take your masculinity.

And I have a brief story about how some random 24 yo girl brutally blackpilled me on masculinity: she told me she wants to submit to the strongest man she finds. She told me it's big muscles that matter, it's what attract her as a woman with solid feminine gymmaxxed body. So it's clear that gymmaxing isn't cope, we've just been deluded to think that because the fake alphas I mentioned misguided us. BODY MATTERS and the bigger you are the better. She didn't mention height or face, but we both know it matters as well... However, it was brutal when she asked me for my height and then weight and then she immediately stoped responding and BLOCKED ME. For the record, I'm really skinny, a bit above 140lbs. She didn't ask me if I'm "lean" or do I have 6-pack - IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER.

So what I learnt from her? The bigger muscles a male has the better. It's the same as for height, frame, facial bones, dick, foot size... WOMEN WANT HANDSOME AND/OR GIANTS. So stop faggotmaxxing, become a real man ffs.


How a 13-Year-Old Boy Brought Down L.A.'s Most Notorious Serial Killer -  LAmag's Most Notorious Serial Killer -  LAmag
Peter Steele - IMDb
Oliver Kahn, Karlsruher... - Mundial Style - Vintage Football | Facebook
230 Young johnny depp ideas | young johnny depp, johnny depp, johnny


inspired by @chadisbeingmade's thread:

tags: @forevergymcelling @HeavyMetalcel @Clown Show @BoredPrince @aspiringexcel @St.TikTokcel @Debetro @Lonenely sigma @shizuku11111 @cytoplasm @Skara @Klasik616
about to read. its hard to find quality posts like this theyre pretty occasional now in 2025 tbf (not sarcastic)
 
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Who tf is faggotmaxxing. We all want to have bones nigga?
lots of people faggotmax because young girls like faggots while most guys irl are masculine ltn hairy fat greasy cunts who know nothing about taking care of themselves
 
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lots of people faggotmax because young girls like faggots while most guys irl are masculine ltn hairy fat greasy cunts who know nothing about taking care of themselves
by faggotmaxxing i assume you just talk about fluffy hair? I dont see any faggotmaxxing around here. It's all about building muscle, bones and keeping your hairline
 
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by faggotmaxxing i assume you just talk about fluffy hair? I dont see any faggotmaxxing around here. It's all about building muscle, bones and keeping your hairline
yh on org not too many tiktok eboy types but there are a lot and im just saying thats why people faggotmax. many guys actually prefer it over hypermasculinity
 
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Who tf is faggotmaxxing. We all want to have bones nigga?
SyrianPsycho : r/trueratecelebrities

lots of people faggotmax because young girls like faggots while most guys irl are masculine ltn hairy fat greasy cunts who know nothing about taking care of themselves
by faggotmaxxing i assume you just talk about fluffy hair? I dont see any faggotmaxxing around here. It's all about building muscle, bones and keeping your hairline
yh on org not too many tiktok eboy types but there are a lot and im just saying thats why people faggotmax. many guys actually prefer it over hypermasculinity
how I style my hair - fluffy fringe

this is what am I talking about, this guy is the epitome of faggotmaxxing
 
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SyrianPsycho : r/trueratecelebrities




how I style my hair - fluffy fringe

this is what am I talking about, this guy is the epitome of faggotmaxxing
fuck k shami biggest fraud in the manosphere most of org looksmaxers mog him
 
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SyrianPsycho : r/trueratecelebrities




how I style my hair - fluffy fringe

this is what am I talking about, this guy is the epitome of faggotmaxxing
k shami doesnt really faggotmax, he just scams ltns and promotes debloating and shit :lul::lul::lul:

The vid above is faggotmaxxing to the max but its a youtube video, it's made for normies, thank god they faggotmax tbh
 
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it's not just about your looks or style but also your mimics and behavior

some TikTokers act like they want to sound more feminine 🥹🥹
fuck k shami biggest fraud in the manosphere most of org looksmaxers mog him
not only that, but he's fucking annoying with all his 1000 products and shit

like he's literally acting like a girl
k shami doesnt really faggotmax, he just scams ltns and promotes debloating and shit :lul::lul::lul:

The vid above is faggotmaxxing to the max but its a youtube video, it's made for normies, thank god they faggotmax tbh
he literally does, they're the same
 
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Guys, stop adapting to this faggot TikTok beauty standards for males in 2025. It's all part of globalist agenda against masculinity. And don't get me wrong, I'm not one of those redpill "alphas", I'm actually the one who always laughed at guys like Hamza, Tate, Aaron Marino etc.
They're not the epitome of masculinity, they're the epitome of fake masculinity, they're the fake alphas.



What do these guys have to do with my point? Well, the so called manosphere has been infested by those guys for years so the very idea of masculinity has become associated with them - the fake alphas. I don't have to discuss why are they fake alphas, you're all blackpilled enough to know money, cars and status can't compensate for shitty skull shape, recessed maxilla and lack of harmony. So, as we all know it, since it's water, that PSL Gods, male models, actors etc. are the actual alpha males, why did it become a trend among zoomers that feminine guys are now considered "moggers" then?

All PSL Gods are masculine to hypermasculine (as men are supposed to be). Then why did you adopt so called "female gaze"? Do you think a mogger (mog - amog - alpha male of the group) is supposed to look feminine and not dimorphic? The epitome of masculinity is a guy with pumped lips, purposely curved eyelashes, homosexually perfect skin (you're not supposed to "skin-mog" 90% of women :forcedsmile::forcedsmile:) and that one with zero angularity? Is that what a mogger is supposed to look like? Is that what a man is supposed to strive to?

You're not guilty. You've just been a victim of this global war on masculinity, which is wholeheartedly supported by (shocker) most modern women (who are feminist ofc). And guess what? They just see you as a good slave and a suppressed male pig. They don't find you attractive, they still drool over alpha males (actual moggers). It's only low E girls (who aren't even mature sometimes) that find your "prettyboy" looks appealing. [ofc I'm not talking about legit prettyboys who are just youthful Chads with longer hair] And most of those girls are confused about their sexuality or even gender anyway. So do you actually want to be their girlfriend with penis?

"Female gaze" is such a cope term forced by so called "prettyboymaxxers" (I used to be one as well) because there's no such thing as universal female gaze. Those guys will tell you that what "JBs" (low E skinny girls with messed up hormones) find attractive is the universal law, that it's the only type girls are attracted to... Guys, let's be honest, we all know that even "baldcels" and "gymcels" are attractive to some women, because high T men attract high E women (water). Then why tf are you supposed to appeal to low E women? Why don't you just embrace your masculinity which is what every healthy female desires (as long as you're attractive)?

That's why there's no such thing as female gaze, it's beyond stupid term. Actual female gaze is what healthy heterosexual women of any age find attractive - that is a MASCULINE MALE. No matter if he's young and beardless, early middle-aged with a stubble or an oldcel with no hair and long beard. It's just natural. And please, don't confuse youthfulness with femininity.





Gen Z guys should realise masculinity in looksmaxxing is law and everything else is cope and has anti-male roots. Don't allow them to take your masculinity.

And I have a brief story about how some random 24 yo girl brutally blackpilled me on masculinity: she told me she wants to submit to the strongest man she finds. She told me it's big muscles that matter, it's what attract her as a woman with solid feminine gymmaxxed body. So it's clear that gymmaxing isn't cope, we've just been deluded to think that because the fake alphas I mentioned misguided us. BODY MATTERS and the bigger you are the better. She didn't mention height or face, but we both know it matters as well... However, it was brutal when she asked me for my height and then weight and then she immediately stoped responding and BLOCKED ME. For the record, I'm really skinny, a bit above 140lbs. She didn't ask me if I'm "lean" or do I have 6-pack - IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER.

So what I learnt from her? The bigger muscles a male has the better. It's the same as for height, frame, facial bones, dick, foot size... WOMEN WANT HANDSOME AND/OR GIANTS. So stop faggotmaxxing, become a real man ffs.


How a 13-Year-Old Boy Brought Down L.A.'s Most Notorious Serial Killer -  LAmag's Most Notorious Serial Killer -  LAmag
Peter Steele - IMDb
Oliver Kahn, Karlsruher... - Mundial Style - Vintage Football | Facebook
230 Young johnny depp ideas | young johnny depp, johnny depp, johnny


inspired by @chadisbeingmade's thread:

tags: @forevergymcelling @HeavyMetalcel @Clown Show @BoredPrince @aspiringexcel @St.TikTokcel @Debetro @Lonenely sigma @shizuku11111 @cytoplasm @Skara @Klasik616
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it's not just about your looks or style but also your mimics and behavior
I honestly think guys nowadays are just like that, they dont even have to faggotmaxx, they just naturally low T. When I compare myself with my friends... Almost all of them are they type to text where my hug at to girls, they say im ruthless and not a romantic and disrespectful :lul::lul::lul::lul:. They dont get how the game works
 
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it's not just about your looks or style but also your mimics and behavior

some TikTokers act like they want to sound more feminine 🥹🥹

not only that, but he's fucking annoying with all his 1000 products and shit

like he's literally acting like a girl

he literally does, they're the same
ehren shouldve cashed in. he said he was 13 in that one image he was instead 11 or 12 for sure his entire ascension was purely just puberty then he frauded a ton from there. all these niggers do is fraud and scam hamza is literally a millionaire now from scamming young autistic boys
 
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Guys, stop adapting to this faggot TikTok beauty standards for males in 2025. It's all part of globalist agenda against masculinity. And don't get me wrong, I'm not one of those redpill "alphas", I'm actually the one who always laughed at guys like Hamza, Tate, Aaron Marino etc.
They're not the epitome of masculinity, they're the epitome of fake masculinity, they're the fake alphas.



What do these guys have to do with my point? Well, the so called manosphere has been infested by those guys for years so the very idea of masculinity has become associated with them - the fake alphas. I don't have to discuss why are they fake alphas, you're all blackpilled enough to know money, cars and status can't compensate for shitty skull shape, recessed maxilla and lack of harmony. So, as we all know it, since it's water, that PSL Gods, male models, actors etc. are the actual alpha males, why did it become a trend among zoomers that feminine guys are now considered "moggers" then?

All PSL Gods are masculine to hypermasculine (as men are supposed to be). Then why did you adopt so called "female gaze"? Do you think a mogger (mog - amog - alpha male of the group) is supposed to look feminine and not dimorphic? The epitome of masculinity is a guy with pumped lips, purposely curved eyelashes, homosexually perfect skin (you're not supposed to "skin-mog" 90% of women :forcedsmile::forcedsmile:) and that one with zero angularity? Is that what a mogger is supposed to look like? Is that what a man is supposed to strive to?

You're not guilty. You've just been a victim of this global war on masculinity, which is wholeheartedly supported by (shocker) most modern women (who are feminist ofc). And guess what? They just see you as a good slave and a suppressed male pig. They don't find you attractive, they still drool over alpha males (actual moggers). It's only low E girls (who aren't even mature sometimes) that find your "prettyboy" looks appealing. [ofc I'm not talking about legit prettyboys who are just youthful Chads with longer hair] And most of those girls are confused about their sexuality or even gender anyway. So do you actually want to be their girlfriend with penis?

"Female gaze" is such a cope term forced by so called "prettyboymaxxers" (I used to be one as well) because there's no such thing as universal female gaze. Those guys will tell you that what "JBs" (low E skinny girls with messed up hormones) find attractive is the universal law, that it's the only type girls are attracted to... Guys, let's be honest, we all know that even "baldcels" and "gymcels" are attractive to some women, because high T men attract high E women (water). Then why tf are you supposed to appeal to low E women? Why don't you just embrace your masculinity which is what every healthy female desires (as long as you're attractive)?

That's why there's no such thing as female gaze, it's beyond stupid term. Actual female gaze is what healthy heterosexual women of any age find attractive - that is a MASCULINE MALE. No matter if he's young and beardless, early middle-aged with a stubble or an oldcel with no hair and long beard. It's just natural. And please, don't confuse youthfulness with femininity.





Gen Z guys should realise masculinity in looksmaxxing is law and everything else is cope and has anti-male roots. Don't allow them to take your masculinity.

And I have a brief story about how some random 24 yo girl brutally blackpilled me on masculinity: she told me she wants to submit to the strongest man she finds. She told me it's big muscles that matter, it's what attract her as a woman with solid feminine gymmaxxed body. So it's clear that gymmaxing isn't cope, we've just been deluded to think that because the fake alphas I mentioned misguided us. BODY MATTERS and the bigger you are the better. She didn't mention height or face, but we both know it matters as well... However, it was brutal when she asked me for my height and then weight and then she immediately stoped responding and BLOCKED ME. For the record, I'm really skinny, a bit above 140lbs. She didn't ask me if I'm "lean" or do I have 6-pack - IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER.

So what I learnt from her? The bigger muscles a male has the better. It's the same as for height, frame, facial bones, dick, foot size... WOMEN WANT HANDSOME AND/OR GIANTS. So stop faggotmaxxing, become a real man ffs.


How a 13-Year-Old Boy Brought Down L.A.'s Most Notorious Serial Killer -  LAmag's Most Notorious Serial Killer -  LAmag
Peter Steele - IMDb
Oliver Kahn, Karlsruher... - Mundial Style - Vintage Football | Facebook
230 Young johnny depp ideas | young johnny depp, johnny depp, johnny


inspired by @chadisbeingmade's thread:

tags: @forevergymcelling @HeavyMetalcel @Clown Show @BoredPrince @aspiringexcel @St.TikTokcel @Debetro @Lonenely sigma @shizuku11111 @cytoplasm @Skara @Klasik616
masculine guys can be pretty
 
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I honestly think guys nowadays are just like that, they dont even have to faggotmaxx, they just naturally low T. When I compare myself with my friends... Almost all of them are they type to text where my hug at to girls, they say im ruthless and not a romantic and disrespectful :lul::lul::lul::lul:. They dont get how the game works
girls like bad boys and assholes, nice guys are boring to them

"friendly, non-intimidating" looking guy is boring to them, you need to have masculine aura = looks
masculine guys can be pretty
"pretty" = handsome

prime Depp is a perfect example

but yeah it's not solely based on looks, some of those guys on TikTok have mogger base but they chose to act like faggots
 
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Guys, stop adapting to this faggot TikTok beauty standards for males in 2025. It's all part of globalist agenda against masculinity. And don't get me wrong, I'm not one of those redpill "alphas", I'm actually the one who always laughed at guys like Hamza, Tate, Aaron Marino etc.
They're not the epitome of masculinity, they're the epitome of fake masculinity, they're the fake alphas.



What do these guys have to do with my point? Well, the so called manosphere has been infested by those guys for years so the very idea of masculinity has become associated with them - the fake alphas. I don't have to discuss why are they fake alphas, you're all blackpilled enough to know money, cars and status can't compensate for shitty skull shape, recessed maxilla and lack of harmony. So, as we all know it, since it's water, that PSL Gods, male models, actors etc. are the actual alpha males, why did it become a trend among zoomers that feminine guys are now considered "moggers" then?

All PSL Gods are masculine to hypermasculine (as men are supposed to be). Then why did you adopt so called "female gaze"? Do you think a mogger (mog - amog - alpha male of the group) is supposed to look feminine and not dimorphic? The epitome of masculinity is a guy with pumped lips, purposely curved eyelashes, homosexually perfect skin (you're not supposed to "skin-mog" 90% of women :forcedsmile::forcedsmile:) and that one with zero angularity? Is that what a mogger is supposed to look like? Is that what a man is supposed to strive to?

You're not guilty. You've just been a victim of this global war on masculinity, which is wholeheartedly supported by (shocker) most modern women (who are feminist ofc). And guess what? They just see you as a good slave and a suppressed male pig. They don't find you attractive, they still drool over alpha males (actual moggers). It's only low E girls (who aren't even mature sometimes) that find your "prettyboy" looks appealing. [ofc I'm not talking about legit prettyboys who are just youthful Chads with longer hair] And most of those girls are confused about their sexuality or even gender anyway. So do you actually want to be their girlfriend with penis?

"Female gaze" is such a cope term forced by so called "prettyboymaxxers" (I used to be one as well) because there's no such thing as universal female gaze. Those guys will tell you that what "JBs" (low E skinny girls with messed up hormones) find attractive is the universal law, that it's the only type girls are attracted to... Guys, let's be honest, we all know that even "baldcels" and "gymcels" are attractive to some women, because high T men attract high E women (water). Then why tf are you supposed to appeal to low E women? Why don't you just embrace your masculinity which is what every healthy female desires (as long as you're attractive)?

That's why there's no such thing as female gaze, it's beyond stupid term. Actual female gaze is what healthy heterosexual women of any age find attractive - that is a MASCULINE MALE. No matter if he's young and beardless, early middle-aged with a stubble or an oldcel with no hair and long beard. It's just natural. And please, don't confuse youthfulness with femininity.





Gen Z guys should realise masculinity in looksmaxxing is law and everything else is cope and has anti-male roots. Don't allow them to take your masculinity.

And I have a brief story about how some random 24 yo girl brutally blackpilled me on masculinity: she told me she wants to submit to the strongest man she finds. She told me it's big muscles that matter, it's what attract her as a woman with solid feminine gymmaxxed body. So it's clear that gymmaxing isn't cope, we've just been deluded to think that because the fake alphas I mentioned misguided us. BODY MATTERS and the bigger you are the better. She didn't mention height or face, but we both know it matters as well... However, it was brutal when she asked me for my height and then weight and then she immediately stoped responding and BLOCKED ME. For the record, I'm really skinny, a bit above 140lbs. She didn't ask me if I'm "lean" or do I have 6-pack - IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER.

So what I learnt from her? The bigger muscles a male has the better. It's the same as for height, frame, facial bones, dick, foot size... WOMEN WANT HANDSOME AND/OR GIANTS. So stop faggotmaxxing, become a real man ffs.


How a 13-Year-Old Boy Brought Down L.A.'s Most Notorious Serial Killer -  LAmag's Most Notorious Serial Killer -  LAmag
Peter Steele - IMDb
Oliver Kahn, Karlsruher... - Mundial Style - Vintage Football | Facebook
230 Young johnny depp ideas | young johnny depp, johnny depp, johnny


inspired by @chadisbeingmade's thread:

tags: @forevergymcelling @HeavyMetalcel @Clown Show @BoredPrince @aspiringexcel @St.TikTokcel @Debetro @Lonenely sigma @shizuku11111 @cytoplasm @Skara @Klasik616
True, my ex always told me to bulk up cos I was a 145 lb 5'9 tall fag. I am on mk rn , I will be 170 lbs one day, idc about abs or jawline. Imma get big
 
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Yeah pretty based thread, real prettyboys are just youthful chads, they are supposed to have masculine features still, not be some effeminate twink.

You have both sides of this debate however, masculinity copers who think being a prettyboy (youthful chad) is gay so they ogremaxx and lower their SMV and you have "prettyboy"maxxers who have the wrong idea of what a prettyboy is so they think the more female they look, the better. Even young Henry Cavill looked like a prettyboy, because that's what he was, a young youthful chad.

And I have a brief story about how some random 24 yo girl brutally blackpilled me on masculinity: she told me she wants to submit to the strongest man she finds. She told me it's big muscles that matter, it's what attract her as a woman with solid feminine gymmaxxed body. So it's clear that gymmaxing isn't cope, we've just been deluded to think that because the fake alphas I mentioned misguided us. BODY MATTERS and the bigger you are the better. She didn't mention height or face, but we both know it matters as well... However, it was brutal when she asked me for my height and then weight and then she immediately stoped responding and BLOCKED ME. For the record, I'm really skinny, a bit above 140lbs. She didn't ask me if I'm "lean" or do I have 6-pack - IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER.

So what I learnt from her? The bigger muscles a male has the better. It's the same as for height, frame, facial bones, dick, foot size... WOMEN WANT HANDSOME AND/OR GIANTS. So stop faggotmaxxing, become a real man ffs.
I have a slight problem with this tho, I wouldn't necessarily find gym women to be a reliable source of what women generally like. Ok sure, some muscle definition and size is good on a guy, water, but "The bigger muscles a male has the better."? I don't believe that. Extreme muscles look unnatural and only extremely mentally ill gym obsessed infertile women like them.

Now ofc gymmaxxing like that can help you find women in that specific niche (obsessed by the gym), but most of them are older anyways, I mean if you want to go for hags you do you I don't care... :forcedsmile::forcedsmile::forcedsmile:
 
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I used to feel insecure about having masculine features but it's prob one of the main reasons my father has aged well at age 60 despite shit lifestyle.
 
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Guys, stop adapting to this faggot TikTok beauty standards for males in 2025. It's all part of globalist agenda against masculinity. And don't get me wrong, I'm not one of those redpill "alphas", I'm actually the one who always laughed at guys like Hamza, Tate, Aaron Marino etc.
They're not the epitome of masculinity, they're the epitome of fake masculinity, they're the fake alphas.



What do these guys have to do with my point? Well, the so called manosphere has been infested by those guys for years so the very idea of masculinity has become associated with them - the fake alphas. I don't have to discuss why are they fake alphas, you're all blackpilled enough to know money, cars and status can't compensate for shitty skull shape, recessed maxilla and lack of harmony. So, as we all know it, since it's water, that PSL Gods, male models, actors etc. are the actual alpha males, why did it become a trend among zoomers that feminine guys are now considered "moggers" then?

All PSL Gods are masculine to hypermasculine (as men are supposed to be). Then why did you adopt so called "female gaze"? Do you think a mogger (mog - amog - alpha male of the group) is supposed to look feminine and not dimorphic? The epitome of masculinity is a guy with pumped lips, purposely curved eyelashes, homosexually perfect skin (you're not supposed to "skin-mog" 90% of women :forcedsmile::forcedsmile:) and that one with zero angularity? Is that what a mogger is supposed to look like? Is that what a man is supposed to strive to?

You're not guilty. You've just been a victim of this global war on masculinity, which is wholeheartedly supported by (shocker) most modern women (who are feminist ofc). And guess what? They just see you as a good slave and a suppressed male pig. They don't find you attractive, they still drool over alpha males (actual moggers). It's only low E girls (who aren't even mature sometimes) that find your "prettyboy" looks appealing. [ofc I'm not talking about legit prettyboys who are just youthful Chads with longer hair] And most of those girls are confused about their sexuality or even gender anyway. So do you actually want to be their girlfriend with penis?

"Female gaze" is such a cope term forced by so called "prettyboymaxxers" (I used to be one as well) because there's no such thing as universal female gaze. Those guys will tell you that what "JBs" (low E skinny girls with messed up hormones) find attractive is the universal law, that it's the only type girls are attracted to... Guys, let's be honest, we all know that even "baldcels" and "gymcels" are attractive to some women, because high T men attract high E women (water). Then why tf are you supposed to appeal to low E women? Why don't you just embrace your masculinity which is what every healthy female desires (as long as you're attractive)?

That's why there's no such thing as female gaze, it's beyond stupid term. Actual female gaze is what healthy heterosexual women of any age find attractive - that is a MASCULINE MALE. No matter if he's young and beardless, early middle-aged with a stubble or an oldcel with no hair and long beard. It's just natural. And please, don't confuse youthfulness with femininity.





Gen Z guys should realise masculinity in looksmaxxing is law and everything else is cope and has anti-male roots. Don't allow them to take your masculinity.

And I have a brief story about how some random 24 yo girl brutally blackpilled me on masculinity: she told me she wants to submit to the strongest man she finds. She told me it's big muscles that matter, it's what attract her as a woman with solid feminine gymmaxxed body. So it's clear that gymmaxing isn't cope, we've just been deluded to think that because the fake alphas I mentioned misguided us. BODY MATTERS and the bigger you are the better. She didn't mention height or face, but we both know it matters as well... However, it was brutal when she asked me for my height and then weight and then she immediately stoped responding and BLOCKED ME. For the record, I'm really skinny, a bit above 140lbs. She didn't ask me if I'm "lean" or do I have 6-pack - IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER.

So what I learnt from her? The bigger muscles a male has the better. It's the same as for height, frame, facial bones, dick, foot size... WOMEN WANT HANDSOME AND/OR GIANTS. So stop faggotmaxxing, become a real man ffs.


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inspired by @chadisbeingmade's thread:

tags: @forevergymcelling @HeavyMetalcel @Clown Show @BoredPrince @aspiringexcel @St.TikTokcel @Debetro @Lonenely sigma @shizuku11111 @cytoplasm @Skara @Klasik616
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Real, I've seen women drool over body halo masculine guys who are MTN at best, meanwhile ignoring pretty boys who are legit pretty

Also the fact that many of my ex Balkan classmates look like ogres and still have gfs, despite me mogging them


@aspiringexcel @HeavyMetalcel

Ogre maxing is law in balkans
 
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Real, I've seen women drool over body halo masculine guys who are MTN at best, meanwhile ignoring pretty boys who are legit pretty

Also the fact that many of my ex Balkan classmates look like ogres and still have gfs, despite me mogging them


@aspiringexcel @HeavyMetalcel

Ogre maxing is law in balkans
every major city in Croatia, especially Zagreb, has foids simping over prettyboys now, you may not notice it at first since there are not a lot of GL guys here, most look ogre, but I'm telling you it's true

yeah ok sure, tall is law here still, just be a tall MTN+ and you can still get laid easily, water, but you underestimate the power prettyboys have here now

I know you live in Germanistan and you probably haven't visited for a while but times are changing unironically

and I'm talking about actual prettyboys, by that I mean youthful high collagen HTNs+, not femboy twinks
 
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every major city in Croatia, especially Zagreb, has foids simping over prettyboys now, you may not notice it at first since there are not a lot of GL guys here, most look ogre, but I'm telling you it's true

yeah ok sure, tall is law here still, just be a tall MTN+ and you can still get laid easily, water, but you underestimate the power prettyboys have here now

I know you live in Germanistan and you probably haven't visited for a while but times are changing unironically

and I'm talking about actual prettyboys, by that I mean youthful high collagen HTNs+, not femboy twinks
You might be right, I haven't visited in some time and when I visit, it's usually just my grandparents on the country side

But last time on my visit I did get some attention in the city from girls so perhaps, times are really changing

But still a long road ahead for me to become high HTN
 
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You might be right, I haven't visited in some time and when I visit, it's usually just my grandparents on the country side

But last time on my visit I did get some attention in the city from girls so perhaps, times are really changing

But still a long road ahead for me to become high HTN
yeah the thing is, it's not even just JBs who like prettyboys anymore, I see 20-25 year old women liking them too

my brother for example is a "robust prettyboy" you could say, his foid friends genuinely consider him the best looking guy at his college and he has tons of attention (brutal brother mog :forcedsmile::forcedsmile::forcedsmile:)

someone might say "oh but that just happens in Zagreb" but keep in mind that Zagreb makes up 1/3 of our population and it's the biggest student city :forcedsmile::forcedsmile::forcedsmile:
 
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yeah the thing is, it's not even just JBs who like prettyboys anymore, I see 20-25 year old women liking them too

my brother for example is a "robust prettyboy" you could say, his foid friends genuinely consider him the best looking guy at his college and he has tons of attention (brutal brother mog :forcedsmile::forcedsmile::forcedsmile:)

someone might say "oh but that just happens in Zagreb" but keep in mind that Zagreb makes up 1/3 of our population and it's the biggest student city :forcedsmile::forcedsmile::forcedsmile:
Now I'm curious how your brother looks lol

Yeah for me, on the days that I look good I usually get attention from younger girls, but ig, part of the reason is I look younger too

And although I agree pretty boys mog, I underestimated the importance of body halo, for example when I used one dating app, the picture where I'm most muscular got the most likes
 
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Now I'm curious how your brother looks lol
mogs me hard :forcedsmile::forcedsmile:
Yeah for me, on the days that I look good I usually get attention from younger girls, but ig, part of the reason is I look younger too

And although I agree pretty boys mog, I underestimated the importance of body halo, for example when I used one dating app, the picture where I'm most muscular got the most likes
Yeah I get you, as I mentioned in this thread ofc having some muscle is a good looksmax but looking like you're on roids will not be appealing to younger foids from what I've seen.

The so called "body halo" is usually accompanied by height too...
 
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Yeah pretty based thread, real prettyboys are just youthful chads, they are supposed to have masculine features still, not be some effeminate twink.

You have both sides of this debate however, masculinity copers who think being a prettyboy (youthful chad) is gay so they ogremaxx and lower their SMV and you have "prettyboy"maxxers who have the wrong idea of what a prettyboy is so they think the more female they look, the better. Even young Henry Cavill looked like a prettyboy, because that's what he was, a young youthful chad.
agreed

but again, it's not just about dating, the root problem is that the globalists want to feminize men (that's how feminists gain soft power as well)

on top of that, every male would naturally respect some hypermasc ogre more than a weak femboy and every naturally healthy female would rather fuck the first one so my point is that those "masculinity copers" are way more useful to the manosphere or us as men as a whole than those "femboy prettyboys", simply because the latter ones serve the plan of feminization of men and they support feminism which is beyond detrimental for the rest of us
I have a slight problem with this tho, I wouldn't necessarily find gym women to be a reliable source of what women generally like. Ok sure, some muscle definition and size is good on a guy, water, but "The bigger muscles a male has the better."? I don't believe that. Extreme muscles look unnatural and only extremely mentally ill gym obsessed infertile women like them.

Now ofc gymmaxxing like that can help you find women in that specific niche (obsessed by the gym), but most of them are older anyways, I mean if you want to go for hags you do you I don't care... :forcedsmile::forcedsmile::forcedsmile:
most normie girls go to the gym or have friends who go to the gym or see gymmaxxed men and women on social media 24/7, that's why I think they're reliable subjects

when I said "the bigger the better" I didn't mean the literal extremes, but yeah it's kinda the same as for any other criteria, top 10% of men is what women want, whether is it top 10% in height, frame, muscle mass, bone mass, dick size, foot size etc... all women just want to feel small and feminine next to their men

I used to think like you but I realised it's simply about size, wider guys are more dominant therefore more appealing to women

look at @AstroSky, he even stated himself that he's doing better now after bulkmaxxing than he did before when he used to be scrawny :feelshah::feelshah: and yes his gf is petite Japanese kawaii girl so that's what I wanted to prove you, even 'cute girlies' want 'daddy' next to her - ALL WOMEN DESIRE DOMINANT MASCULINE MAN WHO CAN MAKE HER FEEL TINY AND FEMININE


I used to feel insecure about having masculine features but it's prob one of the main reasons my father has aged well at age 60 despite shit lifestyle.
now you see, when a guy is "insecure about having masc features" then you know for sure that we're all victims of brutal misandrist feminization propaganda by the globalist media
 
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he's literally masculine
better be this than a femboy
Real, I've seen women drool over body halo masculine guys who are MTN at best, meanwhile ignoring pretty boys who are legit pretty

Also the fact that many of my ex Balkan classmates look like ogres and still have gfs, despite me mogging them


@aspiringexcel @HeavyMetalcel

Ogre maxing is law in balkans
it's the universal law, bulkmaxxed Chad SMV-mogs skinny Chad

but yeah I stated it in a post above, muscle mass is just like any other criteria like height, frame, bones etc, women desire top 10% of men
For real! Only chinks and gooks faggotmax. :blackpill::redpill:
numerous whites and browns do that as well, even blacks sometimes
Should all chinnks faggotmax?
nobody should, except if you're ashamed to be male
every major city in Croatia, especially Zagreb, has foids simping over prettyboys now, you may not notice it at first since there are not a lot of GL guys here, most look ogre, but I'm telling you it's true

yeah ok sure, tall is law here still, just be a tall MTN+ and you can still get laid easily, water, but you underestimate the power prettyboys have here now

I know you live in Germanistan and you probably haven't visited for a while but times are changing unironically

and I'm talking about actual prettyboys, by that I mean youthful high collagen HTNs+, not femboy twinks
face and height are crucial, ofc

but gymmaxxed prettyboy mogs untrained one to oblivion, imagine Vinnie Hacker if he were a scrawny skeleton like me 🥹🥹
 
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