The Turkish Liberation of Syria

[aklifaal]

with the mandate of allah (tengri), the turks will restore their former imperial glory.

 

[Deleted member 10987]

That's not my point, I don't care whats happening now. I listen to what Allah and his messenger told us. How hard is that to understand. Literally every point I made is from Islam not global politics. Islam doesn't change through out time, this is the truth. No matter what even if theres 1 Muslim left, he's regarded as the Ummah and he must struggle to keep his religion and state of Islam from diminishing.

I understand now
You are talking about religious law and i know you are right on this

But we must prepare for all kind of possibilities

 

[Deleted member 10913]

I looked at both sides of the argument and i can say that the Ummah exsits but not in a imperial state kind of fashion. It always exsited. The thing is nothing is bound to succes if that was case we wouldnt even be on this website. This also holds true to nations and the Islamic empires of old.

@JustRopeBro Something like a imperial state does not seem possible. Other then that i can see a religious comunity of nation states with a head that work towards a common goal, And this is at best.

@Maesthetic the thing with your argument is that blood and soil should hold more importance then a unnification. But what kind of unnification are we talking about? Kemalist hold the same argument hence they don't see the need of religious morals. Arab Reunifcation like that of egypt or syria is more of a failure then anything. Even 2 cities, 2 family member, 2 neighbors differ from each other. Let alone whole nation states that differ even more internally. Islam is always the unification for communities and nations alike. This is not some globalism im argueing for, it functions entirly diffrent of the latter.

In the end of the day this is some obscure internet forum. Let's first try to unite our own nations Islamicly then we can see the rest of the picture.

Come to an agreement and let's leave at that.

 

[Deleted member 10569]

man this is a meme i dont even knew until recently. some black man posing as a turk. The right seem to be some arab archtype who is pro Turkey.
you gotta understand that neither syria or iraq ever saw something good after they left.

they went from one dictator to another, and look at their nations now. Both are in shackles. I don't believe they like our people atleast not the kemalist 50% the other 50% are religious Muslims who voted for the current gov. It's more that their hope is on us the religious.

Bro what? You can't say turks are bad, theres bad groups in every country. If there wasn't you think we'd be shit right now?

 

[Deleted member 10913]

No we still struggle for Islam. Islam doesn't change with the times brother, do you lose faith in Allah? I don't know people in this age are quick to say stuff like this.

you fight with each other in some forum that's why. best things are started with the family not on some forum thats why.

 

[Deleted member 10569]

I looked at both sides of the argument and i can say that the Ummah exsits but not in a imperial state kind of fashion. It always exsited. The thing is nothing is bound to succes if that was case we wouldnt even be on this website. This also holds true to nations and the Islamic empires of old.

@JustRopeBro Something like a imperial state does not seem possible. Other then that i can see a religious comunity of nation states with a head that work towards a common goal, And this is at best.

@Maesthetic the thing with your argument is that blood and soil should hold more importance then a unnification. But what kind of unnification are we talking about? Kemalist hold the same argument hence they don't see the need of religious morals. Arab Reunifcation like that of egypt or syria is more of a failure then anything. Even 2 cities, 2 family member, 2 neighbors differ from each other. Let alone whole nation states that differ even more internally. Islam is always the unification for communities and nations alike. This is not some globalism im argueing for, it functions entirly diffrent of the latter.

In the end of the day this is some obscure internet forum. Let's first try to unite our own nations Islamicly then we can see the rest of the picture.

Come to an agreement and let's leave at that.

It will be possible just have faith

 

[Deleted member 10913]

Bro what? You can't say turks are bad, theres bad groups in every country. If there wasn't you think we'd be shit right now?

man i didnt say that, what i said was our countries policy regarding matters in the Islamic world differ greatly in each elected body. The help that we can now provide is solely because the Muslim Turks could have elective representation.
The day Iraq and syria left the Ottoman Empire was already the end for them. they where colonized and then went from dictatorship to another.

 

[Deleted member 10913]

Man the Baathist should have known that the game was rigged from the start 75% is for the intervention. TAKE THAT YOU FOOLS

 

[nastynas]

well we are just defending our southern border rightfully and trying to make things better in syria so we can send refugees back.

also after syria, turkey is next target of western politics, so it is mandatory for us to help situation there