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Part 1 - Why a deep voice is so attractive

Dimorphism:

A deep voice in a man is attractive as it is a dimorphic trait and a result of full and long vocal chords, a deep voice is a seacondairy sexual charecteristic in males which develops during pueberty, a mans voice finishes it's deepening by around age 15-18, but the voice fully matures during the 20's
. The vocal cord length is around 20% higher in men than in women:

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Another dimorphic trai is a pronounced Adams apple, since men have larger vocal chords than women we develop tough carilige to protect our larynx, generaly the bigger the Adams apple the deeper the voice, this is the reason why they are so attractive to women, I ersonaly belive that Adams apples aren't spoken about enough on here despite there being legitemate proof that they are a decent hailo, for example take the actor Ryohei Arisu from Alice In Borderland who is sought after by fangirls mainly because of his Adams apple:

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As you can see he is clearly East Asian, Korians and Japanise people in particular notoriously struggle with dimorphism but this one feature hailos his dimorphism and gives him an edge over other Asians who lack Adams apple sharpness.

Part 2 - How to improve you voice

Vocal exercises:


Hear me out these might sound like cope however these voice exercises are used by FtM trans people in order to sound more masculine, although trans "People" are weirdos there have been documented cases of transvestites lowerign their voice pitch from 110hz-100hz! Baring in mind that the ideal voice pitch for attracting women is 97hz this is immpressave, so here are the exersices:

1. The lip flutter - This is a vocal exercise where you blow air through loose lips to make them vibrate, this is legi as singers and public speakers are known players use it to reduce muscle tension in the lips as if you have stiff lips your voice will sound crackily and weak. Aim to do 3 sets 1 breath each a few times a day

2. Diaphram breathing - Diaphram breathing is a voice deppening technique where one lies on the ground with both arms touching the upper part of the belly right underneth the ribcage (the diaphram), then take a deep breath as you inhail your belly should rise up and as you exhail your belly should return to normal, do this once a day, right before bedtime worked for me as if you are deep breathing before you go to sleep you have a higher chance of diafram breathign automticaly as you are unconcious.

3. Down talking - This is a tecnique were one ends a sentance on a low note so rather than saying to a girl "Hey how was your
Weekend" say "Hey how was your weekend" doing this instantly makes your voice sound deeper as the last word in a sentance is what people remember when talking to you? It's hard to explain but most people end there sentances with a higher pitch than the start of there sentances so doing this will give you a addvantage over other men in termes of presence.



Voice surgery:

A small incision is made on the front of the neck to access the thyroid cartilage (Adams Apple), a small section of cartilage is modified or removed, allowing the vocal folds to relax and shorten, which permanently lowers the voice pitch. WARNING I do not recoment this as unless you are a richcel you will have to save for it since it costs £5,000-£10,000 depeding on where you get it done and if it goes wrong you can lose your voice potentialy forever, however if your voice is death tear geneticaly I can see why one would roll the dice.

Cigarett smoking:

Cigarette smoking can cause what is known as "Reinke's edema" this is an adema of the vocal folds, how it works is the vocal system develops inflammation, this adema can occur very rapidly after cigarette smoke, about 15 cigarettes a day, for 20 days, caused this adema of the vocal folds. The raspy voices associated with smoking are usually a result of Reinke's adema.

A healthy diet:

A diet that consists of mainly animal products such as meat, eggs and dairy is opptimal to maxximise testosterone production, if you iprove your diet and lifestyle during peuberty your testosterone will be higher and your voice will develop better and end up slightly deeper.

TRT:

Since testosterone is the main hormone responsable for the elongation of the vocal cords during puberty you could in theory inject testosterone to mimic a natural puberty with just a month or two should be enough to perminantly deepen voice.

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mirin effort + will read
 
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making a guide just to post it in off topic 💔
 
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I got 89hz at 16

Is it over ?
 
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do you recommend primal chanting? like screaming somewhere in private where no one can hear you for a bit before an event, thus making your voice sound raspy and deeper? obvs not permanent
 
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AI slop
 
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yesss the downtalking is such a good point as well, it makes your voice sound way more masculine and confident and assured, thanks for reminding me to do it!!
 
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do you recommend primal chanting? like screaming somewhere in private where no one can hear you for a bit before an event, thus making your voice sound raspy and deeper? obvs not permanent
Yes, it's anti-social but you could go to a feild or something, don't do it if it hurts though, listen to your body(y)
I wrote this myself I swear on my Moms eyes
 
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Voice keeps deepening well into adult age, saw a video of me at 24 and my voice was noticeably higher pitch than now at unc age of 30. This in spite of suppressing DHT too past 3 years, though T is really the main hormone for voice deepening. Also genetics still matter a ton here there are high pitch Chads and roidcels too.
 
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take steroids and bonesmash ur neck is all u need
 
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Voice keeps deepening well into adult age, saw a video of me at 24 and my voice was noticeably higher pitch than now at unc age of 30. This in spite of suppressing DHT too past 3 years, though T is really the main hormone for voice deepening. Also genetics still matter a ton here there are high pitch Chads and roidcels too.
wouldn't it get less deep if test determines voice deepness, since test technically decreases with age?
 
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Yes, it's anti-social but you could go to a feild or something, don't do it if it hurts though, listen to your body(y)

I wrote this myself I swear on my Moms eyes
What if your mom doesnt have an eye🤔
 
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Part 1 - Why a deep voice is so attractive

Dimorphism:

A deep voice in a man is attractive as it is a dimorphic trait and a result of full and long vocal chords, a deep voice is a seacondairy sexual charecteristic in males which develops during pueberty, a mans voice finishes it's deepening by around age 15-18, but the voice fully matures during the 20's
. The vocal cord length is around 20% higher in men than in women:


Another dimorphic trai is a pronounced Adams apple, since men have larger vocal chords than women we develop tough carilige to protect our larynx, generaly the bigger the Adams apple the deeper the voice, this is the reason why they are so attractive to women, I ersonaly belive that Adams apples aren't spoken about enough on here despite there being legitemate proof that they are a decent hailo, for example take the actor Ryohei Arisu from Alice In Borderland who is sought after by fangirls mainly because of his Adams apple:


As you can see he is clearly East Asian, Korians and Japanise people in particular notoriously struggle with dimorphism but this one feature hailos his dimorphism and gives him an edge over other Asians who lack Adams apple sharpness.

Part 2 - How to improve you voice

Vocal exercises:


Hear me out these might sound like cope however these voice exercises are used by FtM trans people in order to sound more masculine, although trans "People" are weirdos there have been documented cases of transvestites lowerign their voice pitch from 110hz-100hz! Baring in mind that the ideal voice pitch for attracting women is 97hz this is immpressave, so here are the exersices:

1. The lip flutter - This is a vocal exercise where you blow air through loose lips to make them vibrate, this is legi as singers and public speakers are known players use it to reduce muscle tension in the lips as if you have stiff lips your voice will sound crackily and weak. Aim to do 3 sets 1 breath each a few times a day

2. Diaphram breathing - Diaphram breathing is a voice deppening technique where one lies on the ground with both arms touching the upper part of the belly right underneth the ribcage (the diaphram), then take a deep breath as you inhail your belly should rise up and as you exhail your belly should return to normal, do this once a day, right before bedtime worked for me as if you are deep breathing before you go to sleep you have a higher chance of diafram breathign automticaly as you are unconcious.

3. Down talking - This is a tecnique were one ends a sentance on a low note so rather than saying to a girl "Hey how was your
Weekend" say "Hey how was your weekend" doing this instantly makes your voice sound deeper as the last word in a sentance is what people remember when talking to you? It's hard to explain but most people end there sentances with a higher pitch than the start of there sentances so doing this will give you a addvantage over other men in termes of presence.



Voice surgery:

A small incision is made on the front of the neck to access the thyroid cartilage (Adams Apple), a small section of cartilage is modified or removed, allowing the vocal folds to relax and shorten, which permanently lowers the voice pitch. WARNING I do not recoment this as unless you are a richcel you will have to save for it since it costs £5,000-£10,000 depeding on where you get it done and if it goes wrong you can lose your voice potentialy forever, however if your voice is death tear geneticaly I can see why one would roll the dice.

Cigarett smoking:

Cigarette smoking can cause what is known as "Reinke's edema" this is an adema of the vocal folds, how it works is the vocal system develops inflammation, this adema can occur very rapidly after cigarette smoke, about 15 cigarettes a day, for 20 days, caused this adema of the vocal folds. The raspy voices associated with smoking are usually a result of Reinke's adema.

A healthy diet:

A diet that consists of mainly animal products such as meat, eggs and dairy is opptimal to maxximise testosterone production, if you iprove your diet and lifestyle during peuberty your testosterone will be higher and your voice will develop better and end up slightly deeper.

TRT:

Since testosterone is the main hormone responsable for the elongation of the vocal cords during puberty you could in theory inject testosterone to mimic a natural puberty with just a month or two should be enough to perminantly deepen voice.

@Rhinomaxed @couragecel @Stalker @greylurker @xye

mirin cigs made my voice lower fs
 
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step 1 - be russian
 
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idk about voice training and other shit, but cigarettes are worked perfectly for me, i genuinely had child voice and after just 2 months of smoking my voice became much deeper, mirin the post:feelsautistic:
 
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Part 1 - Why a deep voice is so attractive

Dimorphism:

A deep voice in a man is attractive as it is a dimorphic trait and a result of full and long vocal chords, a deep voice is a seacondairy sexual charecteristic in males which develops during pueberty, a mans voice finishes it's deepening by around age 15-18, but the voice fully matures during the 20's
. The vocal cord length is around 20% higher in men than in women:


Another dimorphic trai is a pronounced Adams apple, since men have larger vocal chords than women we develop tough carilige to protect our larynx, generaly the bigger the Adams apple the deeper the voice, this is the reason why they are so attractive to women, I ersonaly belive that Adams apples aren't spoken about enough on here despite there being legitemate proof that they are a decent hailo, for example take the actor Ryohei Arisu from Alice In Borderland who is sought after by fangirls mainly because of his Adams apple:


As you can see he is clearly East Asian, Korians and Japanise people in particular notoriously struggle with dimorphism but this one feature hailos his dimorphism and gives him an edge over other Asians who lack Adams apple sharpness.

Part 2 - How to improve you voice

Vocal exercises:


Hear me out these might sound like cope however these voice exercises are used by FtM trans people in order to sound more masculine, although trans "People" are weirdos there have been documented cases of transvestites lowerign their voice pitch from 110hz-100hz! Baring in mind that the ideal voice pitch for attracting women is 97hz this is immpressave, so here are the exersices:

1. The lip flutter - This is a vocal exercise where you blow air through loose lips to make them vibrate, this is legi as singers and public speakers are known players use it to reduce muscle tension in the lips as if you have stiff lips your voice will sound crackily and weak. Aim to do 3 sets 1 breath each a few times a day

2. Diaphram breathing - Diaphram breathing is a voice deppening technique where one lies on the ground with both arms touching the upper part of the belly right underneth the ribcage (the diaphram), then take a deep breath as you inhail your belly should rise up and as you exhail your belly should return to normal, do this once a day, right before bedtime worked for me as if you are deep breathing before you go to sleep you have a higher chance of diafram breathign automticaly as you are unconcious.

3. Down talking - This is a tecnique were one ends a sentance on a low note so rather than saying to a girl "Hey how was your
Weekend" say "Hey how was your weekend" doing this instantly makes your voice sound deeper as the last word in a sentance is what people remember when talking to you? It's hard to explain but most people end there sentances with a higher pitch than the start of there sentances so doing this will give you a addvantage over other men in termes of presence.



Voice surgery:

A small incision is made on the front of the neck to access the thyroid cartilage (Adams Apple), a small section of cartilage is modified or removed, allowing the vocal folds to relax and shorten, which permanently lowers the voice pitch. WARNING I do not recoment this as unless you are a richcel you will have to save for it since it costs £5,000-£10,000 depeding on where you get it done and if it goes wrong you can lose your voice potentialy forever, however if your voice is death tear geneticaly I can see why one would roll the dice.

Cigarett smoking:

Cigarette smoking can cause what is known as "Reinke's edema" this is an adema of the vocal folds, how it works is the vocal system develops inflammation, this adema can occur very rapidly after cigarette smoke, about 15 cigarettes a day, for 20 days, caused this adema of the vocal folds. The raspy voices associated with smoking are usually a result of Reinke's adema.

A healthy diet:

A diet that consists of mainly animal products such as meat, eggs and dairy is opptimal to maxximise testosterone production, if you iprove your diet and lifestyle during peuberty your testosterone will be higher and your voice will develop better and end up slightly deeper.

TRT:

Since testosterone is the main hormone responsable for the elongation of the vocal cords during puberty you could in theory inject testosterone to mimic a natural puberty with just a month or two should be enough to perminantly deepen voice.

@Rhinomaxed @couragecel @Stalker @greylurker @xye

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Part 1 - Why a deep voice is so attractive

Dimorphism:

A deep voice in a man is attractive as it is a dimorphic trait and a result of full and long vocal chords, a deep voice is a seacondairy sexual charecteristic in males which develops during pueberty, a mans voice finishes it's deepening by around age 15-18, but the voice fully matures during the 20's
. The vocal cord length is around 20% higher in men than in women:


Another dimorphic trai is a pronounced Adams apple, since men have larger vocal chords than women we develop tough carilige to protect our larynx, generaly the bigger the Adams apple the deeper the voice, this is the reason why they are so attractive to women, I ersonaly belive that Adams apples aren't spoken about enough on here despite there being legitemate proof that they are a decent hailo, for example take the actor Ryohei Arisu from Alice In Borderland who is sought after by fangirls mainly because of his Adams apple:


As you can see he is clearly East Asian, Korians and Japanise people in particular notoriously struggle with dimorphism but this one feature hailos his dimorphism and gives him an edge over other Asians who lack Adams apple sharpness.

Part 2 - How to improve you voice

Vocal exercises:


Hear me out these might sound like cope however these voice exercises are used by FtM trans people in order to sound more masculine, although trans "People" are weirdos there have been documented cases of transvestites lowerign their voice pitch from 110hz-100hz! Baring in mind that the ideal voice pitch for attracting women is 97hz this is immpressave, so here are the exersices:

1. The lip flutter - This is a vocal exercise where you blow air through loose lips to make them vibrate, this is legi as singers and public speakers are known players use it to reduce muscle tension in the lips as if you have stiff lips your voice will sound crackily and weak. Aim to do 3 sets 1 breath each a few times a day

2. Diaphram breathing - Diaphram breathing is a voice deppening technique where one lies on the ground with both arms touching the upper part of the belly right underneth the ribcage (the diaphram), then take a deep breath as you inhail your belly should rise up and as you exhail your belly should return to normal, do this once a day, right before bedtime worked for me as if you are deep breathing before you go to sleep you have a higher chance of diafram breathign automticaly as you are unconcious.

3. Down talking - This is a tecnique were one ends a sentance on a low note so rather than saying to a girl "Hey how was your
Weekend" say "Hey how was your weekend" doing this instantly makes your voice sound deeper as the last word in a sentance is what people remember when talking to you? It's hard to explain but most people end there sentances with a higher pitch than the start of there sentances so doing this will give you a addvantage over other men in termes of presence.



Voice surgery:

A small incision is made on the front of the neck to access the thyroid cartilage (Adams Apple), a small section of cartilage is modified or removed, allowing the vocal folds to relax and shorten, which permanently lowers the voice pitch. WARNING I do not recoment this as unless you are a richcel you will have to save for it since it costs £5,000-£10,000 depeding on where you get it done and if it goes wrong you can lose your voice potentialy forever, however if your voice is death tear geneticaly I can see why one would roll the dice.

Cigarett smoking:

Cigarette smoking can cause what is known as "Reinke's edema" this is an adema of the vocal folds, how it works is the vocal system develops inflammation, this adema can occur very rapidly after cigarette smoke, about 15 cigarettes a day, for 20 days, caused this adema of the vocal folds. The raspy voices associated with smoking are usually a result of Reinke's adema.

A healthy diet:

A diet that consists of mainly animal products such as meat, eggs and dairy is opptimal to maxximise testosterone production, if you iprove your diet and lifestyle during peuberty your testosterone will be higher and your voice will develop better and end up slightly deeper.

TRT:

Since testosterone is the main hormone responsable for the elongation of the vocal cords during puberty you could in theory inject testosterone to mimic a natural puberty with just a month or two should be enough to perminantly deepen voice.

@Rhinomaxed @couragecel @Stalker @greylurker @xye

Cigarret smoking jfl
 
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Nice guide. Voice is underrated ngl, and people kind of underestimate how much it contributes to male attractiveness and presence.
 
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should have been posted to looksmax not in offtopic
 
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Part 1 - Why a deep voice is so attractive

Dimorphism:

A deep voice in a man is attractive as it is a dimorphic trait and a result of full and long vocal chords, a deep voice is a seacondairy sexual charecteristic in males which develops during pueberty, a mans voice finishes it's deepening by around age 15-18, but the voice fully matures during the 20's
. The vocal cord length is around 20% higher in men than in women:


Another dimorphic trai is a pronounced Adams apple, since men have larger vocal chords than women we develop tough carilige to protect our larynx, generaly the bigger the Adams apple the deeper the voice, this is the reason why they are so attractive to women, I ersonaly belive that Adams apples aren't spoken about enough on here despite there being legitemate proof that they are a decent hailo, for example take the actor Ryohei Arisu from Alice In Borderland who is sought after by fangirls mainly because of his Adams apple:


As you can see he is clearly East Asian, Korians and Japanise people in particular notoriously struggle with dimorphism but this one feature hailos his dimorphism and gives him an edge over other Asians who lack Adams apple sharpness.

Part 2 - How to improve you voice

Vocal exercises:


Hear me out these might sound like cope however these voice exercises are used by FtM trans people in order to sound more masculine, although trans "People" are weirdos there have been documented cases of transvestites lowerign their voice pitch from 110hz-100hz! Baring in mind that the ideal voice pitch for attracting women is 97hz this is immpressave, so here are the exersices:

1. The lip flutter - This is a vocal exercise where you blow air through loose lips to make them vibrate, this is legi as singers and public speakers are known players use it to reduce muscle tension in the lips as if you have stiff lips your voice will sound crackily and weak. Aim to do 3 sets 1 breath each a few times a day

2. Diaphram breathing - Diaphram breathing is a voice deppening technique where one lies on the ground with both arms touching the upper part of the belly right underneth the ribcage (the diaphram), then take a deep breath as you inhail your belly should rise up and as you exhail your belly should return to normal, do this once a day, right before bedtime worked for me as if you are deep breathing before you go to sleep you have a higher chance of diafram breathign automticaly as you are unconcious.

3. Down talking - This is a tecnique were one ends a sentance on a low note so rather than saying to a girl "Hey how was your
Weekend" say "Hey how was your weekend" doing this instantly makes your voice sound deeper as the last word in a sentance is what people remember when talking to you? It's hard to explain but most people end there sentances with a higher pitch than the start of there sentances so doing this will give you a addvantage over other men in termes of presence.



Voice surgery:

A small incision is made on the front of the neck to access the thyroid cartilage (Adams Apple), a small section of cartilage is modified or removed, allowing the vocal folds to relax and shorten, which permanently lowers the voice pitch. WARNING I do not recoment this as unless you are a richcel you will have to save for it since it costs £5,000-£10,000 depeding on where you get it done and if it goes wrong you can lose your voice potentialy forever, however if your voice is death tear geneticaly I can see why one would roll the dice.

Cigarett smoking:

Cigarette smoking can cause what is known as "Reinke's edema" this is an adema of the vocal folds, how it works is the vocal system develops inflammation, this adema can occur very rapidly after cigarette smoke, about 15 cigarettes a day, for 20 days, caused this adema of the vocal folds. The raspy voices associated with smoking are usually a result of Reinke's adema.

A healthy diet:

A diet that consists of mainly animal products such as meat, eggs and dairy is opptimal to maxximise testosterone production, if you iprove your diet and lifestyle during peuberty your testosterone will be higher and your voice will develop better and end up slightly deeper.

TRT:

Since testosterone is the main hormone responsable for the elongation of the vocal cords during puberty you could in theory inject testosterone to mimic a natural puberty with just a month or two should be enough to perminantly deepen voice.

@Rhinomaxed @couragecel @Stalker @greylurker @xye

mirin hard but i do none of these adn i have a pretty deep voice
also weak adams apple
genetics are law
 
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Nice guide. Voice is underrated ngl, and people kind of underestimate how much it contributes to male attractiveness and presence.
do you think my 75 hz deep male voice would work on Taylor to seduce her?
 
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do you think my 75 hz deep male voice would work on Taylor to seduce her?
She want bones, harmony, misc and dimo in frame and height, not voice
 
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wouldn't it get less deep if test determines voice deepness, since test technically decreases with age?
Well the changes to your vocal cords are permanent. Just dependent on T exposure over time I think, not dependent on T levels once they've grown in that way.
 

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