The vaccine killing everybody is massive lifefuel

[TsarTsar444]

Do you happen to know what Koch's postulates are?
Nothing should be taken as fact in science but I mentioned it is a theory because people DO take the contagion theory as a fact.
What that I have said doesnt make sense?

Ok then what do you mean by purifying a virus?

 

[Deleted member 13021]

Do you happen to know what Koch's postulates are?
Nothing should be taken as fact in science but I mentioned it is a theory because people DO take the contagion theory as a fact.
What that I have said doesnt make sense?

Koch this Koch that, fucking Koch postulates dates back to the early 1900 when DNA, RNA prions or most of the molecular biology wasn't even known, not being a retarded you'd think they're pretty antiquated by today standard's.

"Koch was well aware in the case of cholera that the causal agent, Vibrio cholerae, could be found in both sick and healthy people, invalidating his first postulate.
Furthermore, viral diseases were not yet discovered when Koch formulated his postulates, and there are many viruses that do not cause illness in all infected individuals, a requirement of the first postulate."

 

[RecessedPrettyboy]

Then if it doesn't apply is there any study that did what you just said and the person didn't get the disease?

If there aren't any then the disease must be caused by the virus following your logic

MJ Rosenau, “Experiments to Determine Mode of Spread of Influenza,” Journal of the American Medical Association 73, no. 5 (August 2, 1919): 311–313.

Koch this Koch that, fucking Koch postulates dates back to the early 1900 when DNA, RNA prions or most of the molecular biology wasn't even known, not being a retarded you'd think they're pretty antiquated by today standard's.

"Koch was well aware in the case of cholera that the causal agent, Vibrio cholerae, could be found in both sick and healthy people, invalidating his first postulate"

Koch’s postulates are as follows:
The microorganism must be found in abundance in all organisms suffering from the disease but not found in healthy organisms.
The microorganism must be isolated from a diseased organism and grown in a pure culture.
The cultured microorganism should cause disease when introduced into a healthy organism.
The microorganism must be re-isolated from the now diseased experimental host which received the inoculation of the microorganisms and identified as identical to the original specific causative agent.

If all four conditions are met, you have proven the infectious cause for a specific set of symptoms. This is the only way to prove causation. Interestingly, even Koch could not find proof of contagion using his postulates. He abandoned the requirement of the first postulate when he discovered carriers of cholera and typhoid fever who did not get sick.1 In fact, bacteriologists and virologists today believe that Koch’s sensible and logical postulates “have been recognized as largely obsolete by epidemiologists since the 1950s.”2

Koch’s postulates are for bacteria, not for viruses, which are about one thousand times smaller. In the late nineteenth century, the first evidence for the existence of these tiny particles came from experiments with filters that had pores small enough to retain bacteria and let other particles through.
In 1937, Thomas Rivers modified Koch’s postulates in order to determine the infectious nature of viruses. Rivers’ postulates are as follows:

The virus can be isolated from diseased hosts.
The virus can be cultivated in host cells.
Proof of filterability—the virus can be filtered from a medium that also contains bacteria.
The filtered virus will produce a comparable disease when the cultivated virus is used to infect experimental animals.
The virus can be re-isolated from the infected experimental animal.
A specific immune response to the virus can be detected.

Please note that Rivers drops Koch’s first postulate—that’s because many people suffering from “viral” illness do not harbor the offending microorganism. Even with Koch’s first postulate missing, researchers have not been able to prove that a specific virus causes a specific disease using Rivers’ postulates; one study claims that Rivers’ postulates have been met for SARS, said to be a viral disease, but careful examination of this paper demonstrates that none of the postulates have been satisfied.3

 

[Deleted member 13021]

Koch’s postulates are for bacteria, not for viruses,

Thanks, i think this is enough

Also I bet that 102 years old study will definitely prove what you just said

 

[RecessedPrettyboy]

Thanks, i think this is enough

I confused them for Rivers postulates indeed. it has been a while I have looked into and discussed about this virus shit.
Rivers postulates is still just a modified version of kochs postulates for viruses. my point still stands.

 

[Deleted member 13021]

I confused them for Rivers postulates indeed. it has been a while I have looked into and discussed about this virus shit.
Rivers postulates is still just a modified version of kochs postulates for viruses. my point still stands.

Sure dude yadda yadda, you confused shit, go back to the 1919 and help rosenau prove that some microorganisms which weren't at all understood didn't cause influenza

 

[RecessedPrettyboy]

Also I bet that 102 years old study will definitely prove what you just said

Sure dude yadda yadda, you confused shit, go back to the 1919 and help rosenau prove that some microorganisms which weren't at all understood didn't cause influenza

Is that your only argument? Did you read the 102 year old study?
And if old is the problem, why isnt there a study that proves viruses cause disease that conform to rivers postulates then? surely with all the technology today it would be quite easy to do so and end this virus debate.

What confirms what I have just said is that no studies about viruses claiming that they cause disease conform to rivers postulates.

 

[sensen]

bodies will continually produce prions, and cause blood clots and either cripple, or kill everyone within 20 years. Terrible but obvious

 

[Deleted member 13021]

Is that your only argument? Did you read the 102 year old study?
And if old is the problem, why isnt there a study that proves viruses cause disease that conform to rivers postulates then? surely with all the technology today it would be quite easy to do so and end this virus debate.

What confirms what I have just said is that no studies about viruses conform to rivers postulates.

Link me the 100 year old study and I'll read it, even better quote the text where it specifically demonstrates what you just said

 

[RecessedPrettyboy]

Link me the 100 year old study and I'll read it, even better quote the text where it specifically demonstrates what you just said

Here is a summary. I have already linked the full study

Spoiler: Summary

During World War I, governments on both sides of the conflict installed antennas, which eventually blanketed the earth with strong radio signals— and during the latter part of 1918, disaster struck. The Spanish flu afflicted a third of the world’s population and killed about fifty million people, more than the Black Death of the fourteenth century. To stop the contagion, communities shut down schools, businesses, and theaters; people were ordered to wear masks and refrain from shaking hands.8 Those living on military bases, which bristled with antennas, were the most vulnerable.
A common symptom was bleeding—from the nostrils, gums, ears, skin, stomach, intestines, uterus, kidneys, and brain. Many died of hemorrhage in the lungs, drowning in their own blood. Tests revealed a decreased ability of the blood to coagulate. Those close to death often developed “that peculiar blue color which seemed to mark all early fatal cases.”9 Health officials were desperate to find a cause.

The team of physicians from the US Public Health Service tried to infect their one hundred healthy volunteers at a naval facility on Gallops Island in Boston Harbor. A sense of frustration pervades the report, written by Milton J. Rosenau, MD, and published in the Journal of the American Medical Association. 10 Rosenau had built a successful career in public health by instilling a fear of germs, overseeing quarantines, and warning the public about the dangers of raw milk. He believed that something called Pfeiffer bacillus was the cause. The researchers carefully extracted throat and nasal mucus and even lung material from cadavers and transferred it to the throats, respiratory tracts, and noses of volunteers. “We used some billions of these organisms, according to our estimated counts, on each one of the volunteers, but none of them took sick,” he said.

Then they drew blood from those who were sick and injected it into ten volunteers. “None of these took sick in any way.” Thoroughly perplexed, Rosenau and the other researchers designed the next experiment “to imitate the natural way in which influenza spreads, at least the way in which we believe influenza spreads, and I have no doubt it does [even though his experiments showed that it doesn’t]—by human contact.” They instructed those afflicted to breathe and cough over volunteers. “The volunteer was led up to the bedside of the patient; he was introduced. He sat down alongside the bed of the patient. They shook hands, and by instructions, he got as close as he conveniently could, and they talked for five minutes.

At the end of the five minutes, the patient breathed out as hard as he could, while the volunteer, muzzle to muzzle (in accordance with his instructions, about 2 inches between the two), received this expired breath, and at the same time was breathing in as the patient breathed out. This they repeated five times.” The volunteers were watched carefully for seven days, but alas, “none of them took sick in any way.” “Perhaps,” said Rosenau, “there are factors, or a factor, in the transmission of influenza that we do not know. . . . Perhaps if we have learned anything, it is that we are not quite sure what we know about the disease.”
Researchers even tried to infect healthy horses with the mucous secretions of horses with the flu11—yes, animals also became ill during the pandemic—but the results were the same. The Spanish flu was not contagious, and physicians could attach no blame to the accused bacterium nor provide an explanation for its global reach.

 

[Deleted member 13021]

Here is a summary. I have already linked the full study

Spoiler: Summary

During World War I, governments on both sides of the conflict installed antennas, which eventually blanketed the earth with strong radio signals— and during the latter part of 1918, disaster struck. The Spanish flu afflicted a third of the world’s population and killed about fifty million people, more than the Black Death of the fourteenth century. To stop the contagion, communities shut down schools, businesses, and theaters; people were ordered to wear masks and refrain from shaking hands.8 Those living on military bases, which bristled with antennas, were the most vulnerable.
A common symptom was bleeding—from the nostrils, gums, ears, skin, stomach, intestines, uterus, kidneys, and brain. Many died of hemorrhage in the lungs, drowning in their own blood. Tests revealed a decreased ability of the blood to coagulate. Those close to death often developed “that peculiar blue color which seemed to mark all early fatal cases.”9 Health officials were desperate to find a cause.

The team of physicians from the US Public Health Service tried to infect their one hundred healthy volunteers at a naval facility on Gallops Island in Boston Harbor. A sense of frustration pervades the report, written by Milton J. Rosenau, MD, and published in the Journal of the American Medical Association. 10 Rosenau had built a successful career in public health by instilling a fear of germs, overseeing quarantines, and warning the public about the dangers of raw milk. He believed that something called Pfeiffer bacillus was the cause. The researchers carefully extracted throat and nasal mucus and even lung material from cadavers and transferred it to the throats, respiratory tracts, and noses of volunteers. “We used some billions of these organisms, according to our estimated counts, on each one of the volunteers, but none of them took sick,” he said.

Then they drew blood from those who were sick and injected it into ten volunteers. “None of these took sick in any way.” Thoroughly perplexed, Rosenau and the other researchers designed the next experiment “to imitate the natural way in which influenza spreads, at least the way in which we believe influenza spreads, and I have no doubt it does [even though his experiments showed that it doesn’t]—by human contact.” They instructed those afflicted to breathe and cough over volunteers. “The volunteer was led up to the bedside of the patient; he was introduced. He sat down alongside the bed of the patient. They shook hands, and by instructions, he got as close as he conveniently could, and they talked for five minutes.

At the end of the five minutes, the patient breathed out as hard as he could, while the volunteer, muzzle to muzzle (in accordance with his instructions, about 2 inches between the two), received this expired breath, and at the same time was breathing in as the patient breathed out. This they repeated five times.” The volunteers were watched carefully for seven days, but alas, “none of them took sick in any way.” “Perhaps,” said Rosenau, “there are factors, or a factor, in the transmission of influenza that we do not know. . . . Perhaps if we have learned anything, it is that we are not quite sure what we know about the disease.”
Researchers even tried to infect healthy horses with the mucous secretions of horses with the flu11—yes, animals also became ill during the pandemic—but the results were the same. The Spanish flu was not contagious, and physicians could attach no blame to the accused bacterium nor provide an explanation for its global reach.

You didn't link shit, link me the full study

 

[Haven]

This is one of those few rare cases where the idiot sheep will actually get exactly what it deserves for sheeping for the man srs. I hope the vaccine conspiracy theories are true tbh ngl.

Bro you are low iq as fuck do vaccine

 

[RecessedPrettyboy]

You didn't link shit, link me the full study

How hard is it to google the name of the study and get the DOI?
10.1001/JAMA.1919.02610310005002
paste that into sci hub for full study

 

[Deleted member 13021]

How hard is it to google the name of the study and get the DOI?
10.1001/JAMA.1919.02610310005002
paste that into sci hub for full study

"I think we must be very careful not to draw any
positive conclusions from negative results of this kind.
Many factors must be considered. Our volunteers may
not have been susceptible. They may have been
immune. They had been exposed as all the rest of the
people had been exposed to the disease, although they
gave no clinical history of an attack."

As he said 5 people not contracting the disease doesn't prove anything.

Also as your favorite postulates say, he didn't purify the virus in any way.

 

[Deleted member 7098]

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COVID-19 Provisional Counts - Weekly Updates by Select Demographic and Geographic Characteristics

Tabulated data on provisional COVID-19 deaths by age, sex, race and Hispanic origin, and comorbidities. Also includes an index of state-level and county-level mortality data available for download.

www.cdc.gov

good source, thank you

 

[RecessedPrettyboy]

"I think we must be very careful not to draw any
positive conclusions from negative results of this kind.
Many factors must be considered. Our volunteers may
not have been susceptible. They may have been
immune. They had been exposed as all the rest of the
people had been exposed to the disease, although they
gave no clinical history of an attack."

As he said 5 people not contracting the disease doesn't prove anything

They had 100 volunteers.

“Perhaps,” said Rosenau, “there are factors, or a factor, in the transmission of influenza that we do not know. . . . Perhaps if we have learned anything, it is that we are not quite sure what we know about the disease.”

Sounds like they couldnt prove the virus caused the disease, doesnt it?

And youre forgetting that all studies on viruses cant prove by rivers postulates that viruses cause disease. I dont know about you but I think that is enough proof for me that viruses are not the cause of disease.

 

[Deleted member 13021]

They had 100 volunteers.

That were tested with the isolated bacillus taught to be causing influenza, not the virus.

10 volunteers at first and 5 after were tested with the virus

 

[Deleted member 8856]

Hosea 4:6
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge

 

[RecessedPrettyboy]

That were tested with the isolated bacillus taught to be causing influenza, not the virus.

10 volunteers at first and 5 after were tested with the virus

Okay

 

[Deleted member 6403]

Hosea 4:6
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge

Offtopic but what do the numbers, 4:6 for example, signify?

 

[Deleted member 8856]

Offtopic but what do the numbers, 4:6 for example, signify?

Its a bible verse

 

[Deleted member 6403]

Its a bible verse

I know, where do the numbers originate from though

 

[Deleted member 6403]

I know, where do the numbers originate from though

Nvm I got it, chapters and verses

 

[damnit]

3 weeks after 2nd shot mother developed blod clot in her leg , luckily it's not dvt. She is using heparin.

Sister developed an awful allergic reaction , rash , reactive arthritis and a sensation of choking. She is gwtting the second shot...

Dad , who really suffered from covid a year ago , had no problems....

 

[Deleted member 6403]

3 weeks after 2nd shot mother developed blod clot in her leg , luckily it's not dvt. She is using heparin.

Sister developed an awful allergic reaction , rash , reactive arthritis and a sensation of choking. She is gwtting the second shot...

Dad , who really suffered from covid a year ago , had no problems....

That can't be. The vaccine is safe and effective

 

[TITUS]

Would be fun if only vaccinated males died, so much pussy for me.

 

[Cali Yuga]

This is one of those few rare cases where the idiot sheep will actually get exactly what it deserves for sheeping for the man srs. I hope the vaccine conspiracy theories are true tbh ngl.

why would the kill everyone quickly when they can just do it slowly and have people cheering for their own execution byt he end

 

[Deleted member 13318]

source

 

[Deleted member 6403]

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Problem?

 

[ProAcktiv]

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[TsarTsar444]

3 weeks after 2nd shot mother developed blod clot in her leg , luckily it's not dvt. She is using heparin.

Sister developed an awful allergic reaction , rash , reactive arthritis and a sensation of choking. She is gwtting the second shot...

Dad , who really suffered from covid a year ago , had no problems....

Blood clotting develops from the initial anti body spike in the blood, it will only happen the first month of injection during which the proteins are still present, after 1 month you are completely fine

Allergies are very rare not a single person i know got an allergy

 

[Deleted member 13021]

Okay

It's literally in the study you posted you dumbass

 

[disillusioned]

It's not even a vaccine. It's not even a MRNA gene altering one. It's literally just poison intended to kill us.

 

[ProAcktiv]

I confused them for Rivers postulates indeed.

 

[ProAcktiv]

fuck the stupidity in this thread .

Too many DIY scientists

 

[RecessedPrettyboy]

That can't be. The vaccine is safe and effective

Surely it is a coincidence

 

[RecessedPrettyboy]

It's literally in the study you posted you dumbass

Yes and? Your point?

 

[Deleted member 6403]

Would be fun if only vaccinated males died, so much pussy for me.

Convince females not to get the vaccine, that's I'm doing and what I've been advocating to do on here to reduce hypergamy

 

[Ritalincel]

thats fking sick tbh

 

[TITUS]

Convince females not to get the vaccine, that's I'm doing and what I've been advocating to do on here to reduce hypergamy

There are accounts of after-war countries in which the male population had been so decimated that once women would find males they would just copulate on the spot.

 

[Deleted member 6403]

There are accounts of after-war countries in which the male population had been so decimated that once women would find males they would just copulate on the spot.

lifefuel

 

[Alexanderr]

Unironically room temperature thread.

Seemingly, everyone on this forum is hoping the vaccine kills of half the population, ignoring the fact, if that were to become true, society would collapse and the comfortable bubble you’ve been living in your entire life will cease to exist.

If anything, you should hope the vaccine does work unless you prefer to live a life our ancestors had hundreds of years ago, with you being one illness away from death.

 

[fukmylyf]

can u idiots just get it already. I don't want another lockdown

 

[Deleted member 14138]

This is one of those few rare cases where the idiot sheep will actually get exactly what it deserves for sheeping for the man srs. I hope the vaccine conspiracy theories are true tbh ngl.

The vaccine is propaganda to turn everybody gay. Then the governments gonna come in and rape everybody and burn people on a grill and eat them, then jack off on their corpses.

 

[Deleted member 2632]

Unironically room temperature thread.

Seemingly, everyone on this forum is hoping the vaccine kills of half the population, ignoring the fact, if that were to become true, society would collapse and the comfortable bubble you’ve been living in your entire life will cease to exist.

If anything, you should hope the vaccine does work unless you prefer to live a life our ancestors had hundreds of years ago, with you being one illness away from death.

What does it matter if people hope the vaxx kills people off?

We're not encouraing people to take it, we're telling them not to take it

Regardless if you are happy or sad about what the vaxx is going to do, what will happen, will happen

 

[Alexanderr]

What does it matter if people hope the vaxx kills people off?

Yeah, what does it matter if someone hopes hundreds of millions of people die?

As for what the vax will or will not do, only the future will tell.

 

[autistic_tendencies]

Probaly not true it would be smarter to kill those that dont take the vaccine

Yes but most took it. What’s the point in killing off 10 or 20 percent of the people that refused

 

[disillusioned]

Yes but most took it. What’s the point in killing off 10 or 20 percent of the people that refused

A minority of the population triggers most revolutions.

It's also a genetic purge. Get rid of the most 'independent' genes.

 

[Ritalincel]

It's literally in the study you posted you dumbass

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[damnit]

Blood clotting develops from the initial anti body spike in the blood, it will only happen the first month of injection during which the proteins are still present, after 1 month you are completely fine

Allergies are very rare not a single person i know got an allergy

my mother, a gynecologist is coping hard in trying to pinpoint what caused her thrombophlebitis, a "rare side effect of the vaccine. Meanwhile there are studies on blod clots reported on more and more patients after taking the vaccine. She just shrugs it off on old age.

Humans are meant to cope.

Sister despite having a very serious reaction , still urges me to take the jab, just lol. I'm really vorried about her for her second shot....

My uncle shortly after taking the vaccine . developed heart problems, but can't really link it to the pfizer vaccine...