The waiting times between surgeries is killing me man

[lurking truecel]

Sure i took kinda too long between mine, but holy i just want to do my next surgery. Without it i cant go on, but at the same time i needed to wait.

I did bimax and infras, now i need i revision rhino so i am just waiting for it. Should be within half a year but damn i am not patient. It makes me mad almost how slow it goes. I mean to be fair my nose is the worst failo so i really need it.

 

[fakechadtillyoumake]

how's the recovery process? With whom you did bimax tho? And rhino. And why u can't larp then, or it's too obvious after bimax?

 

[lurking truecel]

how's the recovery process? With whom you did bimax tho? And rhino. And why u can't larp then, or it's too obvious after bimax?

I mean recovery is going good but i am in braces and have been waiting for the revision rhino because i want to do it with a good surgeon as my nose is hard. Ram was the surgeon

 

[fakechadtillyoumake]

brutal, i don't know but i think you can still do it, don't u think? Like how could they know if ur in pain or whatever unless it really intersect with teeth, but i don't think so. Also how much did it cost? I heard last times Ram started overprice nah?

 

[LEFORT17]

how long was it since bimax?

 

[lurking truecel]

how long was it since bimax?

11 months

 

[Nahorscend]

Why didn't you do rhino with marianetti in the same session as ram's bimax?

 

[lurking truecel]

Why didn't you do rhino with marianetti in the same session as ram's bimax?

Combining revision rhino and bimax + implants is too much. Also he has waiting times like 2 years so would be the same

 

[Doesitmatter?]

Why not post results?

 

[lurking truecel]

Why not post results?

Maybe one day, also there is obv reason too not posting result on here. Its not a place you want to be associated with even though i admire people who do but if i did i would def not want to do it on this acc

 

[cutecel1337]

Goodluck with rhino recovery

 

[Doesitmatter?]

Maybe one day, also there is obv reason too not posting result on here. Its not a place you want to be associated with even though i admire people who do but if i did i would def not want to do it on this acc

Gl man. Would you say surgery results turn out the same way you thought it would? Like morphs?

 

[lurking truecel]

Gl man. Would you say surgery results turn out the same way you thought it would? Like morphs?

Depends on who does the morph lol. Most of the morphs people do on this forum is just with 100% symmetry and glowing skin

 

[Doesitmatter?]

Depends on who does the morph lol

Did your bimax turn out as you expected or there's a deviation be it in the positive or negetive direction

 

[lurking truecel]

Did your bimax turn out as you expected or there's a deviation be it in the positive or negetive direction

You get some and you give some, it was overall good

 

[Acquiescence]

It’s truly brutal

I will easily be a 30+ oldcel by the time I get everything I want done

Too poor, too cucked by employers, too chopped a base…

And 99% chance it’s still not enough and I’ll have wasted tens of thousands for nothing

Honestly I have basically infinite patience to wait now because I realized it never even began

 

[kaydd]

It’s truly brutal

I will easily be a 30+ oldcel by the time I get everything I want done

Too poor, too cucked by employers, too chopped a base…

And 99% chance it’s still not enough and I’ll have wasted tens of thousands for nothing

Honestly I have basically infinite patience to wait now because I realized it never even began

think of it as part of life. Dont expect anything big from the start. There are people trying to get their family out of poverty their whole life and are still happy throughout the day.

 

[Foreverbrad]

think of it as part of life. Dont expect anything big from the start. There are people trying to get their family out of poverty their whole life and are still happy throughout the day.

Predeterminism strips any and all meaning from life. Ignorance is, in this case, bliss.

 

[Foreverbrad]

Sure i took kinda too long between mine, but holy i just want to do my next surgery. Without it i cant go on, but at the same time i needed to wait.

I did bimax and infras, now i need i revision rhino so i am just waiting for it. Should be within half a year but damn i am not patient. It makes me mad almost how slow it goes. I mean to be fair my nose is the worst failo so i really need it.

Is this due to waiting lists or recovery needs?

 

[kaydd]

Predeterminism strips any and all meaning from life. Ignorance is, in this case, bliss.

Being ignorant sounds more brutal imo.

 

[Acquiescence]

think of it as part of life. Dont expect anything big from the start

Yup

There are people trying to get their family out of poverty their whole life and are still happy throughout the day.

I am naturally a very negative and pessimistic person, this will never be the case for me unfortunately

Although there is still some measure of joy to be extracted from copes, which I indulge in heavily and often

 

[nishka]

You get some and you give some, it was overall good

i just got bimax 3 weeks ago but my face is so swollen. anyway i know you how feel about the waiting time. like i cant wait to just get a final result and at least see what i will look like. also i want to get rhino too. what is the most soon you would get rhino after bimax? 6 months?

 

[goku21]

Yes it’s been very annoying for me I got my braces March 2025 n it’s March 2026 my next ortho appointment is in a week. So hopefully he says I’m ready for my djs. But I’m getting it before my twin brother since his bite is worse then mine

 

[LEFORT17]

It’s truly brutal

I will easily be a 30+ oldcel by the time I get everything I want done

Too poor, too cucked by employers, too chopped a base…

And 99% chance it’s still not enough and I’ll have wasted tens of thousands for nothing

Honestly I have basically infinite patience to wait now because I realized it never even began

u really want obo?

 

[Jgns]

What rating did u start at whatre u currently and what do u think ull end up end up as habibi

 

[lurking truecel]

Is this due to waiting lists or recovery needs?

Kinda both, but mostly waiting times and me wanting a good surgeon

 

[lurking truecel]

What rating did u start at whatre u currently and what do u think ull end up end up as habibi

Hard to say, prolly hltn and end up hmtn

 

[monk321]

I will easily be a 30+ oldcel by the time I get everything I want done

Too poor, too cucked by employers, too chopped a base…

And 99% chance it’s still not enough and I’ll have wasted tens of thousands for nothing

Honestly I have basically infinite patience to wait now because I realized it never even began

if you will be 30+ with all honesty man it's not worth it

 

[Jgns]

Hard to say, prolly hltn and end up hmtn

Thats pretty good what would u say would hold u back from lhtn

 

[lurking truecel]

if you will be 30+ with all honesty man it's not worth it

Most surgery maxxers are 30+, most people dont have money at 19-20 to do a big change. Also even if you start bimax process at that time you will be done 23-24 after braces and recovery etc. If you need more then its more years, and its not too uncommon to need revisions etc. Hardmaxxing is a waiting and time consuming game.

 

[lurking truecel]

Thats pretty good what would u say would hold u back from lhtn

Just overall head structure, genetics when it comes to skin, and just other things. Surgery is still kinda limited

 

[Jgns]

Just overall head structure, genetics when it comes to skin, and just other things. Surgery is still kinda limited

Welll hmtn is still really good anyways and if yr bites good but a bottom tooth is slightly behind the others in it’s row how long would decompression take for a bimax if I’m tryna speed everything up as fast possible

 

[lurking truecel]

Welll hmtn is still really good anyways and if yr bites good but a bottom tooth is slightly behind the others in it’s row how long would decompression take for a bimax if I’m tryna speed everything up as fast possible

Impossible to say but probably 6 months upto 1,5 years. But ortho is hella a random, and almost all people need 6 months - 1year braces after aswell.

 

[Jgns]

Impossible to say but probably 6 months upto 1,5 years. But ortho is hella a random, and almost all people need 6 months - 1year braces after aswell.

Oh alr I’m good with the after it’s just the before thats worrying me tryna get this bimax done asap cause I’m really just tryna fix my base for my rhino appreciate it bro

 

[monk321]

Most surgery maxxers are 30+, most people dont have money at 19-20 to do a big change. Also even if you start bimax process at that time you will be done 23-24 after braces and recovery etc. If you need more then its more years, and its not too uncommon to need revisions etc. Hardmaxxing is a waiting and time consuming game.

ye hardmaxxing is a meme tbh , probably 1/10 guys have a positive roi on this with all the possible complications and timeline involved

 

[lurking truecel]

ye hardmaxxing is a meme tbh , probably 1/10 guys have a positive roi on this with all the possible complications and timeline involved

I mean if you want reward it should be that you only need one surgery, and its such a obv failo thats also highly fixable with surgery. Otherwise hardmaxxing is more for the love of lookmaxxing. And also 90% of people have failos that isnt fixable with hardmaxxing, be it pheno, skull etc.

But i would still say its worth because if its bad you dont really have a chance to worthy life otherwise. And looks matter the whole life. Even if prime is 14-23 for when looks actually matters the most, then its important for the rest also but prime is gone by then and girls often starts to care about if you actually have something going on in your life aswell. Upto 23 its looks only

 

[Foreverbrad]

I mean if you want reward it should be that you only need one surgery, and its such a obv failo thats also highly fixable with surgery. Otherwise hardmaxxing is more for the love of lookmaxxing. And also 90% of people have failos that isnt fixable with hardmaxxing, be it pheno, skull etc.

But i would still say its worth because if its bad you dont really have a chance to worthy life otherwise. And looks matter the whole life. Even if prime is 14-23 for when looks actually matters the most, then its important for the rest also but prime is gone by then and girls often starts to care about if you actually have something going on in your life aswell. Upto 23 its looks only

You just end up with nothing going on in your life indefinitely because of being permanently held back by your looks. There’s just no way out of this without trust fund money or some kind of prescient knowledge.

 

[Acquiescence]

u really want obo?

No not anymore it’s over on that front, now just a bunch of “small” procedures spread out over years due to money and work constraints

 

[tweaqo]

I can’t wait for my surgeries man. It just gives u so much hope to live.

 

[Nahorscend]

Even if prime is 14-23 for when looks actually matters the most, then its important for the rest also but prime is gone by then and girls often starts to care about if you actually have something going on in your life aswell. Upto 23 its looks only

That is the irony of looksmaxxing lol, if you start obsessing over looks before 23 because that's all that matters before 23, by the time you actually finish looksmaxxing you will be at the age where looks aren't enough and if you didn't give attention to other areas you will just be a weirdo bum instead of a chad

I mean looks do always matter but people who apply the college age logic of looks is everything to adult life are in for a rude awakening, you will be a manchild

 

[lurking truecel]

That is the irony of looksmaxxing lol, if you start obsessing over looks before 23 because that's all that matters before 23, by the time you actually finish looksmaxxing you will be at the age where looks aren't enough and if you didn't give attention to other areas you will just be a weirdo bum instead of a chad

I mean looks do always matter but people who apply the college age logic of looks is everything to adult life are in for a rude awakening, you will be a manchild

Yea also most people wont reach even near chad territory even with hardmaxxing. So if its so bad you needed surgeries to begin with you will just reach a certain level where the looks is enough but without the rest its nothing.

But the real irony is believing that looks will get you everything, sure it will, if you are born chad or Stacey and get picked up early for modeling or actor school. But else it wont be totally everything

But for people who actually hardmaxx etc obv knows this already

 

[Nahorscend]

Yea also most people wont reach even near chad territory even with hardmaxxing. So if its so bad you needed surgeries to begin with you will just reach a certain level where the looks is enough but without the rest its nothing.

But the real irony is believing that looks will get you everything, sure it will, if you are born chad or Stacey and get picked up early for modeling or actor school. But else it wont be totally everything

But for people who actually hardmaxx etc obv knows this already

Yea the point where looks will actually give you everything is when you are actual chad like 8+ which 0% of looksmaxxers will ever be because if they had the potential they would not be looksmaxxers

The reason to looksmax should be to improve your self-image and change your own behaviour because that will actually give you results irl when you combine it with slightly improved looks. Neither confidence alone (normie belief) nor looks alone (brainwashed bp belief) will save 99% of people unless they already have the other thing.

 

[courtcase75]

The wait time for bimax is hell, I hate using braces and there's still 16 months to go

 

[monk321]

That is the irony of looksmaxxing lol, if you start obsessing over looks before 23 because that's all that matters before 23, by the time you actually finish looksmaxxing you will be at the age where looks aren't enough and if you didn't give attention to other areas you will just be a weirdo bum instead of a chad

I mean looks do always matter but people who apply the college age logic of looks is everything to adult life are in for a rude awakening, you will be a manchild

The best you can do is leanmax , if you really need it get djs, if after you still need toich ups do fillers. I think that's the best ugly guys can do to looksmax if you're getting lost and obsessed in dozens of invasive/obscure surgeries that realistically have more than 50% botch rate you already lost

 

[Plushie]

Sure i took kinda too long between mine, but holy i just want to do my next surgery. Without it i cant go on, but at the same time i needed to wait.

I did bimax and infras, now i need i revision rhino so i am just waiting for it. Should be within half a year but damn i am not patient. It makes me mad almost how slow it goes. I mean to be fair my nose is the worst failo so i really need it.

Finally someone who actually takes action on this site

 

[courtcase75]

Neither confidence alone (normie belief) nor looks alone (brainwashed bp belief) will save 99% of people unless they already have the other thing.

Yeah, there's so many niggas here that already look good enough but stay locked in their rooms because they're too awkward to function around other people

 

[lurking truecel]

The best you can do is leanmax , if you really need it get djs, if after you still need toich ups do fillers. I think that's the best ugly guys can do to looksmax if you're getting lost and obsessed in dozens of invasive/obscure surgeries that realistically have more than 50% botch rate you already lost

Djs is prob the most invasive surgery option their is that can be performed by a expert still. Its has a complication rate in the 5% for sure, so if you need that you already in depths of hell when it comes to surgerymaxxing

 

[lurking truecel]

Yea the point where looks will actually give you everything is when you are actual chad like 8+ which 0% of looksmaxxers will ever be because if they had the potential they would not be looksmaxxers

The reason to looksmax should be to improve your self-image and change your own behaviour because that will actually give you results irl when you combine it with slightly improved looks. Neither confidence alone (normie belief) nor looks alone (brainwashed bp belief) will save 99% of people unless they already have the other thing.

Yea to hardmaxx having the bp mindset that everything depends on this will make it fail. You need to have patient and realistic. Also realize that things do go wrong and the accuracy is not that good

 

[LackEmpathyTherefor]

I can’t wait for my surgeries man. It just gives u so much hope to live.

Bro u got a gf already. I used to not gaf about all of that when I had a loving gf

 

[LEFORT17]

Bro u got a gf already. I used to not gaf about all of that when I had a loving gf

thats how it is. everything else doesnt matter when you have a gf.