The winning solution for most men

[JamesHowlett]

Looksmax to above-average looking while also focusing on your mentality (confidence, not giving a fuck, being assertive, etc).

Also it goes without saying to focus on other aspects of life too (career/money, health/fitness, relationships, happiness, etc).

Vast majority of men will never become Chad regardless of how many surgeries they have, you need to be above-average looking by default to even have a chance.

Holding onto this “Chad or Death” mentality without the above requirement condemns you to a life of misery and loneliness.

 

[Deleted member 18436]

do guys who get surgery ever look chadlite at best ? I have not ever seen it always look like a fucked up skyrim character

 

[JamesHowlett]

do guys who get surgery ever look chadlite at best ? I have not ever seen it always look like a fucked up skyrim character

I guess so, probably some cases of people ascending to HTN/low chadlite, but yeah most of the time it lacks harmony.

Ascending to Chad is WHOLE other ball game, also doesn’t help that the over-exposure of perfect looking men on this forum has fucked up our looks standards. Similar to how IG/Tinder has fucked up girls’ looks standards.

 

[Moggedbyevery1]

Normie to htn is a massive change in life quality tbh

I think htn should be able to bang above average chicks consistently

 

[JamesHowlett]

Normie to htn is a massive change in life quality tbh

I think htn should be able to bang above average chicks consistently

HTN, 5’10 or above, strong mentality then yeah I agree

 

[Stopping@Nothing19]

what about a chadlite who gets surgery can he not become chad?

 

[JamesHowlett]

what about a chadlite who gets surgery can he not become chad?

I said you have a chance of becoming chad if you’re above-average by default, so if you’re chadlite by default then obviously that chance is higher….. lol

 

[Umbra]

HTN, 5’10 or above, strong mentality then yeah I agree

Im htn (some said low tier chadlite) , 1.82/6 feet, high t, i dont take shit from anyone, im fun to hang around but i feel like im either autist/have adhd or im weird in general or i scare off the girls (i have a resting bitch face , the good kind)

Yet i have like 3 friends that i talk to regularly (excluding classmates or ppl i just say hello to) and 0 female friends (except classmates)

Nt is underrated, only death can cure my rotten brain

 

[Danish_Retard]

If you're blackpilled about looksmaxxing then you should default to the redpill on everything else tbh

 

[JamesHowlett]

Im htn (some said low tier chadlite) , 1.82/6 feet, high t, i dont take shit from anyone, im fun to hang around but i feel like im either autist/have adhd or im weird in general or i scare off the girls (i have a resting bitch face , the good kind)

Yet i have like 3 friends that i talk to regularly (excluding classmates or ppl i just say hello to) and 0 female friends (except classmates)

Nt is underrated, only death can cure my rotten brain

Yeah being NT is really important tbh, it comes under the “mentality” umbrella I spoke about.

How old are you? There still might be time to become more social/NT.

 

[Umbra]

Yeah being NT is really important tbh, it comes under the “mentality” umbrella I spoke about.

How old are you? There still might be time to become more social/NT.

Turned 18 in february, i literally have no opportunities, if im not in prison or dead in the near future i will thugmaxx, make money, hard gymmax, buy an expensive car and all that since i have a head boost compared to everyone

 

[JamesHowlett]

I guess so, probably some cases of people ascending to HTN/low chadlite, but yeah most of the time it lacks harmony.

Ascending to Chad is WHOLE other ball game, also doesn’t help that the over-exposure of perfect looking men on this forum has fucked up our looks standards. Similar to how IG/Tinder has fucked up girls’ looks standards.

Just wanna correct this post, it’s definitely realistic to ascend to HTN if already normie. Chadlite is where lines start to become blurred.

 

[Deleted member 5786]

i will never be even average. I have a bird nose and if i do rhinoplasty, i'm gonna look weird and my face become uncharismatical
Have to embrace being ltn and focus on other aspects

 

[Edgar]

Again with the NT bullshit

 

[JamesHowlett]

How do you plan to do this? It seems the brain is not so malleable once in adulthood.

I am considering going back to ugly girls for validation and confidence?

Unironically watching PUA/redpill videos on YouTube helps in this regard as there is still truth to them, as in if you’re above-average looking they are useful and work. Just don’t be cringe about it, like harassing or not getting the hint if she isn’t interested or running after girls in public JFL

You’d have to fake it till you make, your mentality will slowly change.

 

[JamesHowlett]

Again with the NT bullshit

How is it bullshit? If you don’t think NT/mentality benefits above-average looking men you’re either delusional or never leave your basement.

 

[JamesHowlett]

I mean, if you already have the mental state to approach strangers you are doing better than most.

I think ill try to talk to cashiers and shit like that and make small talk

Fair enough, starting small and making your way up is also legit

 

[Edgar]

How is it bullshit? If you don’t think NT/mentality benefits above-average looking men you’re either delusional or never leave your basement.

What if I am broken from previous attempts

 

[Deleted member 18602]

Looksmax to above-average looking while also focusing on your mentality (confidence, not giving a fuck, being assertive, etc).

Also it goes without saying to focus on other aspects of life too (career/money, health/fitness, relationships, happiness, etc).

Vast majority of men will never become Chad regardless of how many surgeries they have, you need to be above-average looking by default to even have a chance.

Holding onto this “Chad or Death” mentality without the above requirement condemns you to a life of misery and loneliness.

Basically just take the Red Pill. It's the only way. But good luck trying to convince this audience.

 

[JamesHowlett]

What if I am broken from previous attempts

Are you above-average looking? What were your previous attempts?

 

[randomuser2407]

Acquiring a muscular ripped physique is the most important thing after fixing your face. Everything else is cope.

Look at this guy if you don't believe me, he literally went from normie to Chad just by gymmaxxing:

 

[Edgar]

Are you above-average looking?

Idk tbh, previous attempts had a MTB gf from tinder, almost got a htb gf off of Facebook, fucked up cuz I simped way too hard got clingy and jealous af other than that I have been approached once on da street, and I rejected one LTB first year uni she cried

 

[LooksOrDeath]

Acquiring a muscular ripped physique is the most important thing after fixing your face. Everything else is cope.

Look at this guy if you don't believe me, he literally went from normie to Chad just by gymmaxxing:

ascended but not normie to chad
more like strong HTN

face > height > frame = muscles

 

[randomuser2407]

ascended but not normie to chad
more like strong HTN

face > height > frame = muscles

I don't mean that he looks like a 10/10 supermodel but rather the type of guy that most women on Tinder would want to hookup with.

That is what I consider a true Chad.

 

[LooksOrDeath]

I don't mean that he looks like a 10/10 supermodel but rather the type of guy that most women on Tinder would want to hookup with.

That is what I consider a true Chad.

i can see him getting matches
if he weren't asian and had a masc pheno he wouuld be chad in terms of matches

 

[Chadethnic101]

Normie to htn is a massive change in life quality tbh

I think htn should be able to bang above average chicks consistently

Yes it's true by you need other things going for you, eg a body halo can make or break a HTN

I'm HTN and ethnic and I defo do not exactly get the women I truly want
That's due to being chubby I feel, which lowers my confidence
When lean I'm more confident which asked a difference
When I hopefully hit chadlite comfortably, I can consistently get hotter women

@JamesHowlett is bang on how you need to improve the other aspects, esp socialising and game
Career and moneymaxxing will aid your life too massively

 

[Chadethnic101]

People say you need to be NT

I think people are more NT and sociable than they think but what imhilds everyone back is the demographic pill as @FailedNormieManlet stated on his thread.

I'm Hella fucking NT in a social setting if I'm in one and find it easy af to chat to strangers and befriend them.
I then go thru bouts of not seeing people which lowers my social battery.
This is solely due to not having enough people to do things with due to demographics.
Many of us need a expanded circle tbh
Which can be tough to get.
Eventually your friends won't want to go out much anymore
Either you'll have to go solo once ascended out, travel alone and meet people, OLD etc

It really can be a tough situation.

This is why you need to moneymaxx too to give you opportunities to have more fun even if that is alone, you can meet ppl while doing your activities

 

[exeight]

ascended but not normie to chad
more like strong HTN

face > height > frame = muscles

yes, Face is extremely important.. i mean really, without face its just simply OVERRRRR
i would say 1. Face 2. Face 3. Face 4. Height 5. Frame

i mean the face is that what makes us human beings.... Height without Face NOTHING
Muscles without Face NOTHING.. vice versa can happen; Face without Height maybe (just be average/over average)
Face without muscles (just dont be fat or tooo muscular)