The WORST consequence of BP going mainstream

[mocco]

Is it not obvious with a sole that thick? Do you not look silly?

well with that thick sole, people assume ur getting a solid 2 inch height, not 4 inches, and it will keep u save from ´´ur wearing heightboostes´´ allegations, because you can just say these shoes add 2 inches, and i see those kind of shoes everywhere now, but not everyone is rocking these exact ones

 

[Napoleon1800]

well with that thick sole, people assume ur getting a solid 2 inch height, not 4 inches, and it will keep u save from ´´ur wearing heightboostes´´ allegations, because you can just say these shoes add 2 inches, and i see those kind of shoes everywhere now

ok but isn’t that itself seen as tryharding and frauding? Wearing a shoe with a sole that thick?

Has anyone pointed anything out to you or said anything with the shoes you already wear? The whole point of height frauding is that people think it’s natural, that they can’t tell you’re frauding

 

[mocco]

ok but isn’t that itself seen as tryharding and frauding? Wearing a shoe with a sole that thick?

Has anyone pointed anything out to you or said anything with the shoes you already wear? The whole point of height frauding is that people think it’s natural, that they can’t tell you’re frauding

well dont just suddenly pull up to school or in public with these shoes, u gotta buildup first, so it seems natural that the ´´tall guy´´ is wearing these shoes that make him a bit taller

 

[Napoleon1800]

well dont just suddenly pull up to school or in public with these shoes, u gotta buildup first, so it seems natural that the ´´tall guy´´ is wearing these shoes that make him a bit taller

yeah obviously, i mean i can’t even since the people that know me know my height and I can’t just wear one of these with them, but for like clubs or parties where it’s strangers, that’s what I’m thinking

These shoes look a lot more natural to me, these ones that you said you wear, compared to Dravik. I feel like Dravik looks too obvious and looks tryhard, but if you do get it and wear it tell me if it works for you and if it stands out or if it’s fine. How are these Ghost shoes been working for you? Has anyone pointed them out or said anything, or no?

 

[mocco]

yeah obviously, i mean i can’t even since the people that know me know my height and I can’t just wear one of these with them, but for like clubs or parties where it’s strangers, that’s what I’m thinking

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These shoes look a lot more natural to me, these ones that you said you wear, compared to Dravik. I feel like Dravik looks too obvious and looks tryhard, but if you do get it and wear it tell me if it works for you and if it stands out or if it’s fine. How are these Ghost shoes been working for you? Has anyone pointed them out or said anything, or no?

took awhile to arrive but i can walk with these forever and not feel the pain i get from height insoles. legit is very solid to go to a club or just to walk around.

 

[SpanishManlett]

How is wearing height boosters redpilled, it’s a result of the widespread awareness about heightpill which comes from the BP.

Many normies see the lives of chads online as well as guys better looking/taller than them irl, and they see how they get selected by women over them. This creates insecurity, and because dating is competitive, they will try to find ways to reach that level of SMV. Hence why theres been a dramatic rise in guys on roids, that’s why theres loads of guys wear in shoe lifts now, that’s why most normies do all the basic shit like skincare and such now

Trust me, they will eventually forget about it, the highest time where it could have been introduced into the true mainstream was when normies where joking about mewing and that time has pased. Not to insult but, go outside and try to find any normie doing BPilled shit, you won't find any of them.

 

[mocco]

yeah obviously, i mean i can’t even since the people that know me know my height and I can’t just wear one of these with them, but for like clubs or parties where it’s strangers, that’s what I’m thinking

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These shoes look a lot more natural to me, these ones that you said you wear, compared to Dravik. I feel like Dravik looks too obvious and looks tryhard, but if you do get it and wear it tell me if it works for you and if it stands out or if it’s fine. How are these Ghost shoes been working for you? Has anyone pointed them out or said anything, or no?

nobody pointed me out, because i was rocking height insoles first with normal shoes that gave me 2 inch fraud from barefoot, then i bought counzuri boots that add 3 inches, now this. now the final level is the 4.3inch ones

 

[Napoleon1800]

took awhile to arrive but i can walk with these forever and not feel the pain i get from height insoles. legit is very solid to go to a club or just to walk around.

Does it look like a normal shoe? Does it look noticeable or no?

It’s more comfortable than shoe lifts? That’s amazing if true, shoe lifts destroy my feet and back. Is the inside like normal trainers?

Does your ankle stick out when you wear it, or no?

 

[unknownslayer']

Height inserts will no longer have the advantage they have. Rapidly more and more guys are wearing height inserts. Now that heightpill is so insanely widespread and thus the frauds for it, it’s natural for any guy below 5’10 to wear thick soled shoes and height inserts to be taller and not be death tier manlets. 5’10-5’11 guys will then also use height inserts to reach 6’0-6’1 to cross the barrier into being above average height.

As a consequence basically a massive chunk, possibly sooner or later half (and maybe eventually a majority), of men under 6’0 are gonna be wearing height inserts (especially in environments where height’s importance is even more amplified like bars and clubs). As shorter men become taller via height inserts, men over 6’0 will use height inserts to be taller and maintain their advantage.

Thus now ALL GUYS OF ALL HEIGHTS (besides the freakishly tall and freakishly short) will be wearing height inserts. This ruins the whole point of getting an advantage with wearing height inserts.

Even worse, women will be aware of men wearing height inserts, and they will basically start to check guys for height fraud, which will only make heightpill even more brutal. Now you need to wear a height inserts just so you don’t fall behind and also somehow hide it from girls you interact with. How the fuck are you going to hide it from a girl who you’re gonna slay if she’ll check the insides of your shoes as soon as you take them off?

It’s over, we’ve gone full circle on height. Everyone will be frauding and everyone will be looking out for frauds to the point that it becomes ineffective and impossible and naturally tall men will prosper.

boots plus height inserts its over lmaoooo everyone has found it out

 

[Napoleon1800]

Trust me, they will eventually forget about it, the highest time where it could have been introduced into the true mainstream was when normies where joking about mewing and that time has pased. Not to insult but, go outside and try to find any normie doing BPilled shit, you won't find any of them.

I literally walked past 2 normies talking about goatis and the BP, like a few weeks ago, just randomly. And the people ik personally who are giga normies wear height inserts.

 

[mocco]

Does it look like a normal shoe? Does it look noticeable or no?

It’s more comfortable than shoe lifts? That’s amazing if true, shoe lifts destroy my feet and back. Is the inside like normal trainers?

Does your ankle stick out when you wear it, or no?

bro i dont have time to answer questions, all i gotta say, its very hidden, feels great, doesnt hurt and ur ankle wont stick out.

 

[SpanishManlett]

I literally walked past 2 normies talking about goatis and the BP, like a few weeks ago, just randomly. And the people ik personally who are giga normies wear height inserts.

Well, then we will just wait and see who is right. I don't think it will go further than that.

 

[Napoleon1800]

bro i dont have time to answer questions, all i gotta say, its very hidden, feels great, doesnt hurt and ur ankle wont stick out.

Ok that’s great thanks for this

 

[Slavurik]

Height inserts will no longer have the advantage they have. Rapidly more and more guys are wearing height inserts. Now that heightpill is so insanely widespread and thus the frauds for it, it’s natural for any guy below 5’10 to wear thick soled shoes and height inserts to be taller and not be death tier manlets. 5’10-5’11 guys will then also use height inserts to reach 6’0-6’1 to cross the barrier into being above average height.

As a consequence basically a massive chunk, possibly sooner or later half (and maybe eventually a majority), of men under 6’0 are gonna be wearing height inserts (especially in environments where height’s importance is even more amplified like bars and clubs). As shorter men become taller via height inserts, men over 6’0 will use height inserts to be taller and maintain their advantage.

Thus now ALL GUYS OF ALL HEIGHTS (besides the freakishly tall and freakishly short) will be wearing height inserts. This ruins the whole point of getting an advantage with wearing height inserts.

Even worse, women will be aware of men wearing height inserts, and they will basically start to check guys for height fraud, which will only make heightpill even more brutal. Now you need to wear a height inserts just so you don’t fall behind and also somehow hide it from girls you interact with. How the fuck are you going to hide it from a girl who you’re gonna slay if she’ll check the insides of your shoes as soon as you take them off?

It’s over, we’ve gone full circle on height. Everyone will be frauding and everyone will be looking out for frauds to the point that it becomes ineffective and impossible and naturally tall men will prosper.

I am 6'4 barefoot, when I wear boots or anything that is thick sole I fraud to 6'5-6'6, and I do not even wear lifts or anything.
I do not think it matters that much tbf, 80% of success if the face and ur social skills

 

[Napoleon1800]

I am 6'4 barefoot

You are tall, telling others height doesn’t matter. Obviously your height has never impacted you negatively for you to know how bad it is when you lack it. Also I said very tall guys often don’t wear lifts this is moreso about men under 6’2.

 

[zeliot]

It’s literally already happened. Common for young men to wear lifts in their shoes now. Everyone knows about it

yes it did and it got coped away JFL nothing can beat the public people when it comes to making fun of weird bullshit like blackpill /looksmaxxing is still slightly respected tho.

 

[Napoleon1800]

yes it did and it got coped away JFL nothing can beat the public people when it comes to making fun of weird bullshit like blackpill /looksmaxxing is still slightly respected tho.

you do know looksmaxxing is a result of Blackpill? There’s no reason to looksmax if the BP is false, by looksmaxxing you are effectively accepting the BP

 

[zeliot]

you do know looksmaxxing is a result of Blackpill? There’s no reason to looksmax if the BP is false, by looksmaxxing you are effectively accepting the BP

respeciting the bp

 

[Slavurik]

You are tall, telling others height doesn’t matter. Obviously your height has never impacted you negatively for you to know how bad it is when you lack it. Also I said very tall guys often don’t wear lifts this is moreso about men under 6’2.

Brother I am 6'4 MTN+, on good days even higher, but I always saw subhuman manlets that I mog to death getting women literally bcs of their social skills. Obv my height is a big advantage but my point is that if ur an ND it is still over for u.
It is better to be a 5'11 NT LMTN than even a 6'5 HTN but that does not leave home and severely ND

 

[zeliot]

Brother I am 6'4 MTN+, on good days even higher, but I always saw subhuman manlets that I mog to death getting women literally bcs of their social skills. Obv my height is a big advantage but my point is that if ur an ND it is still over for u.
It is better to be a 5'11 NT LMTN than even a 6'5 HTN but that does not leave home and severely ND

social skills are also in blackpill

 

[zeliot]

blackpilled worllll its oooooooveeeer the bluepillers are gon be mad and sissified seeing this

 

[Slavurik]

social skills are also in blackpill

Literally true.
U can be a mogger all u want, but if u sit at home 24/7 u will get less slays than some avg NT with a friend group that is low-inhib

 

[zeliot]

Literally true.
U can be a mogger all u want, but if u sit at home 24/7 u will get less slays than some avg NT with a friend group that is low-inhib

its a brains genetic then, if ur stressed abt stuff and u dont keep it cool then its over which 99% of people have on this forum

 

[Napoleon1800]

Brother I am 6'4 MTN+, on good days even higher, but I always saw subhuman manlets that I mog to death getting women literally bcs of their social skills. Obv my height is a big advantage but my point is that if ur an ND it is still over for u.
It is better to be a 5'11 NT LMTN than even a 6'5 HTN but that does not leave home and severely ND

Firstly that’s selection bias, you see a few manlets that have success and you assume height doesn’t matter, you’re not seeing how good or long lasting those relationships are for one, and you’re not seeing the masses of short men who get nothing, who rot away, because they’re invisible.
Literally go watch videos of height experiments in public, read things women say online about height, I mean I’ve seen heightpill many many many times irl, so this is just you being blind to it due to you not suffering from it

second, a 6’4 HTN that rots in his home is cope, that doesn’t exist really in the real world, it’s rare. Do you know what isn’t rare? Average height and short men rotting indoors, because the 6’4 HTN gets constant positive feedback and thus is confident and is incentivised to go out and socialise and get his dopamine hits and success, whilst the shorter guys get negative feedback in social interactions, so they have no incentive to engage with it.

 

[Slavurik]

its a brains genetic then, if ur stressed abt stuff and u dont keep it cool then its over which 99% of people have on this forum

That's exactly what I think. Most of this forum don't even realize that the main problem is their social isolation and autistic behaviour, not their looks or height

 

[Napoleon1800]

social skills are also in blackpill

social skills are cope for below hmtn and htn and above them, only applies to that group (and even then it’s overblown. 98% of attraction is already done before you even open your mouth), below it doesn’t matter what you say you don’t pass the looks threshold and thus you’re rejected regardless of what you say, and above you can say whatever bullshit and get accepted and slay regardless.

 

[zeliot]

That's exactly what I think. Most of this forum don't even realize that the main problem is their social isolation and autistic behaviour, not their looks or height

gotta stop acting as if getting girls is hard when in reality girls think its hard to pull their guy

 

[zeliot]

social skills are cope for below hmtn and htn and above them, only applies to that group (and even then it’s overblown. 98% of attraction is already done before you even open your mouth), below it doesn’t matter what you say you don’t pass the looks threshold and thus you’re rejected regardless of what you say, and above you can say whatever bullshit and get accepted and slay regardless.

dnr u got too much posts on this forum for me to believe in u

 

[Napoleon1800]

dnr u got too much posts on this forum for me to believe in u

if social skills is what matters then why are you on this forum? Go out there and slay then instead of rotting here talking to guys like me who know nothing

 

[Slavurik]

Firstly that’s selection bias, you see a few manlets that have success and you assume height doesn’t matter, you’re not seeing how good or long lasting those relationships are for one, and you’re not seeing the masses of short men who get nothing, who rot away, because they’re invisible.
Literally go watch videos of height experiments in public, read things women say online about height, I mean I’ve seen heightpill many many many times irl, so this is just you being blind to it due to you not suffering from it

second, a 6’4 HTN that rots in his home is cope, that doesn’t exist really in the real world, it’s rare. Do you know what isn’t rare? Average height and short men rotting indoors, because the 6’4 HTN gets constant positive feedback and thus is confident and is incentivised to go out and socialise and get his dopamine hits and success, whilst the shorter guys get negative feedback in social interactions, so they have no incentive to engage with it.

I didn't say height does not matter, I said it does not matter that much if ur 7+ cm taller than the foid, u need to be 5'8-5'9 and generally ur already taller than 95% of them (depending on were u live), u can always compensate it with other things - physique, face, style and social skills.

Nigga I get positive feedback from gals trust me, I got rated here MTN+, some coping shit like face IQ rates me 7.5+, the best indicator is that I generally recieve compliments from random foids and men irl, I still think I am MTN facially with 6'4 height.
I am too autistic and high-inhib, I mostly ignore girls and try to avoid interactions with them, there were some that approached me and did other shit, but again, I am too fucked socially, and generally I know really gl people with no social lives that barely leave their home.

Obv a lot of short people struggle with women, as do a lot of tall men. What u say is "if a guy gets positive feedback it will make him confident" nigga, mb if you get positive feedback it will make u confident, but this logic does not work the same with all people.

 

[zeliot]

if social skills is what matters then why are you on this forum? Go out there and slay then instead of rotting here talking to guys like me who know nothing

cuz i love rating people + i learned how to analyze my fav model sean opry + im bored asf and im waiting til its october 4th + if a normal guy helps u cope with things stop being a bitch and take it

 

[Napoleon1800]

I didn't say height does not matter, I said it does not matter that much if ur 7+ cm taller than the foid, u need to be 5'8-5'9 and generally ur already taller than 95% of them (depending on were u live), u can always compensate it with other things - physique, face, style and social skills.

Nigga I get positive feedback from gals trust me, I got rated here MTN+, some coping shit like face IQ rates me 7.5+, the best indicator is that I generally recieve compliments from random foids and men irl, I still think I am MTN facially with 6'4 height.
I am too autistic and high-inhib, I mostly ignore girls and try to avoid interactions with them, there were some that approached me and did other shit, but again, I am too fucked socially, and generally I know really gl people with no social lives that barely leave their home.

Obv a lot of short people struggle with women, as do a lot of tall men. What u say is "if a guy gets positive feedback it will make him confident" nigga, mb if you get positive feedback it will make u confident, but this logic does not work the same with all people.

then maybe you’re one of the rare ones that has a mental illness. I know shy/reclusive tall men, but usually they’re ugly or deathnik, or they’re mentally ill, or a combination of those, but in proportion to the number of tall men they’re small, whereas average height and short men that are reclusive are a much bigger proportion of their population.
Literally go to any environments where it’s like social and has a lot of girls and you will see a much higher number of tall men than other environments.

also since when are you 7 inches taller than a woman at 5’8? Most women are 5’5 and above in the West. And also the heightpill is not just about being taller than her, most men are taller than women, it’s about being taller than other men. Your height is a commodity that she uses to elevate herself against other women, and biologically if you are taller than other men you can defend her against a higher number of men, and since that’s the reason women desire height in men, if you are very tall and heightmog other men women will want that

 

[Napoleon1800]

cuz i love rating people + i learned how to analyze my fav model sean opry + im bored asf and im waiting til its october 4th + if a normal guy helps u cope with things stop being a bitch and take it

Why do you care about analysing Sean o’pry’s looks, or anyone’s for that matter. It don’t really matter does it, and it’s not a normal NT thing.

if a normal guy helps u cope with things stop being a bitch and take it

so you admit this is just a way to cope with things jfl
I’ve heard opinions like this a billion times over, this is the basic normie opinion. I’m multiple yrs older than you and have more experience and have gone thru many copes, you don’t need to give advice to me mate

 

[Slavurik]

then maybe you’re one of the rare ones that has a mental illness. I know shy/reclusive tall men, but usually they’re ugly or deathnik, or they’re mentally ill, or a combination of those, but in proportion to the number of tall men they’re small, whereas average height and short men that are reclusive are a much bigger proportion of their population.
Literally go to any environments where it’s like social and has a lot of girls and you will see a much higher number of tall men than other environments.

also since when are you 7 inches taller than a woman at 5’8? Most women are 5’5 and above in the West. And also the heightpill is not just about being taller than her, most men are taller than women, it’s about being taller than other men. Your height is a commodity that she uses to elevate herself against other women, and biologically if you are taller than other men you can defend her against a higher number of men, and since that’s the reason women desire height in men, if you are very tall and heightmog other men women will want that

7 cm nigga, not inches. It is mostly enough. The shit they say on TikTok or X does not matter, they brag a lot, like they wouldn't date a guy if he's not a millionaire or without a sport car - how many guys at their 20s u know that are millionaires? It is like a 0.1% percentile, who they date then? Women like to talk a lot, but infact they mostly date avg guys that they liked.

My main problem is that I live in a country that I wasn't born in, have an accent, different pheno and my name is weird. And I am also an ND to allat. Obv for taller men it is easier but generally it is not so importnat as u think.

 

[Napoleon1800]

7 cm nigga, not inches. It is mostly enough. The shit they say on TikTok or X does not matter, they brag a lot, like they wouldn't date a guy if he's not a millionaire or without a sport car - how many guys at their 20s u know that are millionaires? It is like a 0.1% percentile, who they date then? Women like to talk a lot, but infact they mostly date avg guys that they liked.

Being tall is a lot more common than being rich. It’s a standard women can enforce

My main problem is that I live in a country that I wasn't born in, have an accent, different pheno and my name is weird. And I am also an ND to allat. Obv for taller men it is easier but generally it is not so importnat as u think.

Well there we go, you said it yourself, you’re a foreigner (idk what race you are but if you’re ethnic then yeah that’s amplified), that’s the reason why you don’t fit in. Which is fair and true. I think if you are a tall guy who for other reasons does not have the successful social and dating life that he sees people say tall men have, he will think that then height isn’t that important and its overblown. that’s fully understandable, but the fact is if you were 5’9 instead of 6’4, things would be even worse and you would be affected by your height on top of being foreign and ND.

 

[itsoverforyoubro]

This will not happen as for most girls, height isn’t about wanting a man who’s above average, it’s about having a certain height difference based on their own preference. So taller men have no reason to wear height inserts in reality.

 

[Slavurik]

Being tall is a lot more common than being rich. It’s a standard women can enforce

Well there we go, you said it yourself, you’re a foreigner (idk what race you are but if you’re ethnic then yeah that’s amplified), that’s the reason why you don’t fit in. Which is fair and true. I think if you are a tall guy who for other reasons does not have the successful social and dating life that he sees people say tall men have, he will think that then height isn’t that important and its overblown. that’s fully understandable, but the fact is if you were 5’9 instead of 6’4, things would be even worse and you would be affected by your height on top of being foreign and ND.

Nah I am a white that lives in Israel. Literally a white colonist in a brown country
Like here the avg height is like 5'8 I suppose and everyone are brown, it supposed to be easy for me ig but bcs of my russian accent, european name and pheno it is harder for me

 

[Napoleon1800]

Nah I am a white that lives in Israel. Literally a white colonist in a brown country
Like here the avg height is like 5'8 I suppose and everyone are brown, it supposed to be easy for me ig but bcs of my russian accent, european name and pheno it is harder for me

Isn’t there a lot of Russians in Israel?
Are you Jewish as well

 

[Napoleon1800]

This will not happen as for most girls, height isn’t about wanting a man who’s above average, it’s about having a certain height difference based on their own preference. So taller men have no reason to wear height inserts in reality

height is about being taller than other men on top of having a large height difference with her. A 5’0 girl will get towered over by a 5’8 man but she won’t want him he’s shorter than other men and so he can’t protect her from male competitors (and short women are very insecure and hate short men but that’s another topic).

 

[Slavurik]

Isn’t there a lot of Russians in Israel?
Are you Jewish as well

Yeah, there are, but as I said I am an ND and it is hard for me to socialize generally.
Most of russians my age were born here and they are different than me, like I am fluent in Russian, have an accent, my name are russian and I almost with no jewish blood (only my great grandma). There are 2 million russians here I suppose but most of the people my age were born here and shit

 

[Napoleon1800]

Yeah, there are, but as I said I am an ND and it is hard for me to socialize generally.
Most of russians my age were born here and they are different than me, like I am fluent in Russian, have an accent, my name are russian and I almost with no jewish blood (only my great grandma). There are 2 million russians here I suppose but most of the people my age were born here and shit

yeah they’re russian in ethnicity but Israeli in terms of culture. I hope things work out for you, i don’t really know much about Israel and it’s social dynamics so I can’t say anything but I come from an immigrant family and I understand being seen and treated as a foreigner and getting outcasted because of that. I used to have quite a strong accent but I put a lot of effort and eventually managed to get rid of it, which I think helped me a lot in getting treated better and feel more as part of that society. I plan to change my name soon as well. It’s sad that these things have to be done but it is what it is ig

 

[zeliot]

Why do you care about analysing Sean o’pry’s looks, or anyone’s for that matter. It don’t really matter does it, and it’s not a normal NT thing.


so you admit this is just a way to cope with things jfl
I’ve heard opinions like this a billion times over, this is the basic normie opinion. I’m multiple yrs older than you and have more experience and have gone thru many copes, you don’t need to give advice to me mate

Why does it matter cuz i like the way sean opry looks like knowing he has below harmony of 50s of psl gods or even more lolol

"so u admit this is just a way to cope with things jfl" well sometimes it isnt even copium and it turns out to be true