There are 4 types of faces (pictures included)

[positiveloop]

Facial bone recession and facial bone mass are 2 different things, you can have either/neither or both. So we can divide faces into 4 categories based on these factors:
1. Minimally recessed + high bone mass= very attractive face (unless obese) good eyes area, visible mandible, forward growth

2. Minimally recessed + low bone mass = ltn/htn face, can be slightly attractive. Visible mandible but its too short so chin is still behind lips, bad/ok eye area, browse r/mewing for more examples

3. Recessed + high bone mass = normie/moderatly attractive, more so on average than category 2, ever seen someone with shit jawline but still looks good somehow? Its due to the all the bone mass. Big zygos and undereye support, long mandibular bone, outward gonions creating the illusion of no recession from the front.

4. Recessed + low bone mass = very unattractive. Most sub-5s are in this categoey.

I myself fall into the 2nd category, years of chronically elevated cortisol and malnutrition throught my teens have lead me to have truly pathetic bone mass, i was also recessed as hell previously from looking down at my phone 24/7, but after 1.5 years obsessive of hard mewing i was able to reverse most of the recession, from almost none existant mandible to it being completely visibke and sharp. Eye area also improved but still shit due to tiny zygos.

Thoughts? Apologies for low iq formatting and wording, this is what my brain could muster

 

[Reformed]

Basement theory

 

[midlatinocel]

pm me the things you did to fix recession cuz I am a 3

 

[Whatashame]

 

[HereToGetBetter]

Facial bone recession and facial bone mass are 2 different things, you can have either/neither or both. So we can divide faces into 4 categories based on these factors:
1. Minimally recessed + high bone mass= very attractive face (unless obese) good eyes area, visible mandible, forward growth
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2. Minimally recessed + low bone mass = ltn/htn face, can be slightly attractive. Visible mandible but its too short so chin is still behind lips, bad/ok eye area, browse r/mewing for more examples
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3. Recessed + high bone mass = normie/moderatly attractive, more so on average than category 2, ever seen someone with shit jawline but still looks good somehow? Its due to the all the bone mass. Big zygos and undereye support, long mandibular bone, outward gonions creating the illusion of no recession from the front.
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4. Recessed + low bone mass = very unattractive. Most sub-5s are in this categoey.
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I myself fall into the 2nd category, years of chronically elevated cortisol and malnutrition throught my teens have lead me to have truly pathetic bone mass, i was also recessed as hell previously from looking down at my phone 24/7, but after 1.5 years obsessive of hard mewing i was able to reverse most of the recession, from almost none existant mandible to it being completely visibke and sharp. Eye area also improved but still shit due to tiny zygos.

Thoughts? Apologies for low iq formatting and wording, this is what my brain could muster

I think I am number 2, its over for me. I am 17.

 

[MEMPSK]

Facts

 

[positiveloop]

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Damn i write like a retard, what a shame. But whats wrong with that?

 

[positiveloop]

I think I am number 2, its over for me. I am 17.

Not over bone mass can still increase

 

[positiveloop]

Basement theory

Is it wrong tho anglocuck? Wish i had a basement btw

 

[Whatashame]

Damn i write like a retard, what a shame. But whats wrong with that?

how looking at ur phone would cause recession

 

[positiveloop]

how looking at ur phone would cause recession

It causes forward neck posture which causes mouth breathing

 

[Whatashame]

It causes forward neck posture which causes mouth breathing

from what i know mouth breathing causes forward head posture, i never see the opposite being said and i cant see why that would be the case

 

[positiveloop]

from what i know mouth breathing causes forward head posture, i never see the opposite being said and i cant see why that would be the case

Mutual causality. Its about the angle, try it for yourself. its much harder to engage entire tongue to the palate when looking down with fhp. It doesnt necessarily cause mouth breathing, in retrospect i think i mostly breathed through my nose actually, but it did cause me to only have the tip of my tomgue up or none at all

 

[HereToGetBetter]

Not over bone mass can still increase

I am not injecting hgh though sadly I can’t.

 

[Whatashame]

Mutual causality. Its about the angle, try it for yourself. its much harder to engage entire tongue to the palate when looking down with fhp. It doesnt necessarily cause mouth breathing, in retrospect i think i mostly breathed through my nose actually, but it did cause me to only have the tip of my tomgue up or none at all

im still not sure if the back of the tongue should be on the roof, sometimes it seems more natural to have only the tip. The back of the tongue is a new idea brought bi Mike, his father never said that.

 

[positiveloop]

I am not injecting hgh though sadly it i can't.

Your facial bones can still grow naturally, have you tried to optimize endogenous hgh yet?

 

[positiveloop]

im still not sure if the back of the tongue should be on the roof, sometimes it seems more natural to have only the tip. The back of the tongue is a new idea brought bi Mike, his father never said that.

What? Maybe It seems more natural to you because your posture is shit.
ask every person with a well developed forwardly grown face if they have tgeur entire tongue up or just the tip, also anecdotally i only began to see progress when i started to engage my entire tongue

 

[Whatashame]

What? Maybe It seems more natural to you because your posture is shit.
ask every person with a well developed forwardly grown face if they have tgeur entire tongue up or just the tip, also anecdotally i only began to see progress when i started to engage my entire tongue

first there is no progress, mewing doesnt work past development. Well nobody has a truly developed face in modern world but the few i talked to that had good/decent forward growth also have the tip. Mike Mew came with the back of the tongue idea fter talking to a singer instructor that said the back of the tongue was important to sing better.

 

[positiveloop]

first there is no progress, mewing doesnt work past development. Well nobody has a truly developed face in modern world but the few i talked to that had good/decent forward growth also have the tip. Mike Mew came with the back of the tongue idea fter talking to a singer instructor that said the back of the tongue was important to sing better.

How can you tell theres no progress when i experienced it first hand?

 

[Whatashame]

How can you tell theres no progress when i experienced it first hand?

placebo. send pics.

 

[Foreverbrad]

Number 4 for me JFL.

 

[HereToGetBetter]

Your facial bones can still grow naturally, have you tried to optimize endogenous hgh yet?

I guess so, I take a couple of supplements and they aren't all directly helping my bone growth though, like zinc and magnesium, fedogia agrestis, tongkat ali,boron.

 

[Blond3cel]

Another faggot saying chico is recessed.

Basement dweller Op kys

 

[positiveloop]

Another faggot saying chico is recessed.

Basement dweller Op kys

Did my facts and logic hurt your feelings, you flithy chicosexual? Look, obviously theres a reason why he is a model and people on here worship him, but he objectiveley has 1 major flaw which is thats hes recessed, its a testament to how important bone mass, harmony and soft tissue collagen can compensate for suboptimal tongue posture

 

[Blond3cel]

Did my facts and logic hurt your feelings, you flithy chicosexual? Look, obviously theres a reason why he is a model and people on here worship him, but he objectiveley has 1 major flaw which is thats hes recessed, its a testament to how important bone mass, harmony and soft tissue collagen can compensate for suboptimal tongue posture

With this logic everyone is recessed.

 

[positiveloop]

With this logic everyone is recessed.

Yes its a spectrum, not a yes/no. rounding up based on which end of the specteum someone is.
Do you agree chico is recessed compared to jordan barret?

 

[Blond3cel]

Yes its a spectrum, not a yes/no. rounding up based on which end of the specteum someone is.
Do you agree chico is recessed compared to jordan barret?

Yes but Chico looks way better than Barret and Barret has 1 out of idk forward growth so you cant use him as measurment for recession.

But I agree if your brutal recessed its very very hard to look good

 

[positiveloop]

placebo. send pics.

Was 19 in first pic and same bf

 

[positiveloop]

Yes but Chico looks way better than Barret and Barret has 1 out of idk forward growth so you cant use him as measurment for recession.

But I agree if your brutal recessed its very very hard to look good

Yeah maybe chico wasnt a great example because hes not that recessed, but look at chalamet, recessed af and still looks good. There are a ton of other better examples

 

[Akatlyn]

It causes forward neck posture which causes mouth breathing

I don't think that. I never mouthbreathed, I'm 28 and I look a lot my phone

 

[positiveloop]

I don't think that. I never mouthbreathed, I'm 28 and I look a lot my phone

I Actually barely did so aswell, but it caused me to only have the tip of my tongue up or bone at all. Now when im on my phone i hold it slightly more upwards and look down with my eyes and not my my neck while chin tucking.
Look at this tribal dude with proper head posture:

And then compare it to these modern fuckers:

 

[Whatashame]

Was 19 in first pic and same bf
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literally coloring/lightining, or you gonna say mewing change your skin color?

 

[agoostis]

number 1 for me yet im ltn jfl

 

[positiveloop]

literally coloring/lightining, or you gonna say mewing change your skin color?

What? i just started going in the sun and eating high beta carotene foods

 

[positiveloop]

What? i just started going in the sun and eating high beta carotene foods

Look at the ear.

 

[Deleted member 31022]

Facial bone recession and facial bone mass are 2 different things, you can have either/neither or both. So we can divide faces into 4 categories based on these factors:
1. Minimally recessed + high bone mass= very attractive face (unless obese) good eyes area, visible mandible, forward growth
View attachment 2353297
2. Minimally recessed + low bone mass = ltn/htn face, can be slightly attractive. Visible mandible but its too short so chin is still behind lips, bad/ok eye area, browse r/mewing for more examples
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3. Recessed + high bone mass = normie/moderatly attractive, more so on average than category 2, ever seen someone with shit jawline but still looks good somehow? Its due to the all the bone mass. Big zygos and undereye support, long mandibular bone, outward gonions creating the illusion of no recession from the front.
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4. Recessed + low bone mass = very unattractive. Most sub-5s are in this categoey.
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I myself fall into the 2nd category, years of chronically elevated cortisol and malnutrition throught my teens have lead me to have truly pathetic bone mass, i was also recessed as hell previously from looking down at my phone 24/7, but after 1.5 years obsessive of hard mewing i was able to reverse most of the recession, from almost none existant mandible to it being completely visibke and sharp. Eye area also improved but still shit due to tiny zygos.

Thoughts? Apologies for low iq formatting and wording, this is what my brain could muster

4

 

[spark]

kys op

 

[positiveloop]

kys op

I assure you i would not. Why do you say that?

 

[positiveloop]

4

Are you still in puberty? Not over regardless

 

[positiveloop]

@Whatashame i simply cannot understand how you still doubt the credibility of mewing, there are so many exampls across the internet, even normies start to get it
We arent in 2014 jfl

 

[Whatashame]

@Whatashame i simply cannot understand how you still doubt the credibility of mewing, there are so many exampls across the internet, even normies start to get it
We arent in 2014 jfl

imewing works during development and its a good habit top have but the changes are almost nothing. I saw every result posted in the internet at this point and i never saw an actual result, the only ones that changed is the spanish guy on youtube "good habits", salludon and the other guy. Both of them went into surgery/implants.

 

[positiveloop]

imewing works during development and its a good habit top have but the changes are almost nothing. I saw every result posted in the internet at this point and i never saw an actual result, the only ones that changed is the spanish guy on youtube "good habits", salludon and the other guy. Both of them went into surgery/implants.

So i didnt have an actual change?

And im pretty sure dxxniel gave proof he didnt get surgery implants

 

[Whatashame]

So i didnt have an actual change?

And im pretty sure dxxniel gave proof he didnt get surgery implants

i cant see any clear change im sorry

 

[positiveloop]

look at ear, stayed in the exact same.
then look at the nose, chin, and lips. They clearly moved upwards and forwards considerably.

I have pathetic inward gonions tho which makes my mandible less sharp and creates the illusion of being recessed (still am to some degree)

 

[Deleted member 30998]

i have #2 bigonial

 

[Deleted member 8758]

Different Basal Sphenoid Angles -> midface compaction variation

 

[positiveloop]

Different Basal Sphenoid Angles -> midface compaction variation

please simpilfy in retard terms, google gave me nothing

 

[positiveloop]

i have #2 bigonial
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i have #2 bigonial
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Same
Mirin eye area btw but please stop pouting

 

[Deleted member 30998]

Same
Mirin eye area btw but please stop pouting

do something about it punk

 

[positiveloop]

i cant see any clear change im sorry

look at ear, it stayed in the exact same.
then look at the nose, chin, and lips. They clearly moved upwards and forwards considerably.

I have pathetic inward gonions tho which makes my mandible less sharp and creates the illusion of being recessed (still am to some degree)