There is only one God

[gingerjfl]

God can create a perfect paper test. He is all-powerful. The test would involve zero suffering and be superior to being tested your whole life by suffering evil actions.


Its anti free will to make someone participate in a world where they have to suffer evil for X purpose, as opposed to a world where evil doesnt exist as a test metric for said purpose and you can do whatever you want. You can have a world where people are unaffected by consequences, at least negatively.



I haven't. Earlier you said being unable to fly isnt an example of a restriction on free will, because "it's not for mortals".
In my world, all evil actions are beyond mortals in the same way. Not even that the people lack the capacity, but the world has nothing in it where evilness can be exercised.


yet it's neutral from a human standpoint, it doesnt have any meaningful negative consequences, while still being part of god's test. He can do his testing in a way where we suffer less.


You can attribute whatever you like, the fact is that it causes way less negative emotions in humans. A universe like that would contain less suffering. With meaningless, "button-mashing" actions vs good ones. Murder and all other ills of society are nonexistent. A universe like that would be superior to our current one. And as i mentioned above, it does not restrict free will.

But why should he create a perfect paper test, he clearly sees no wrong with the current test.

Nothing can be anti-free will if it allows for you to do anything you wish, also that is hypocritical for if there was no evil you could not do evil things which in itself is anti-free will.

If people do not have the capacity then they have no free-will, everything is possible within the confines of the scientific laws God created namely: space time and matter

Something cannot be neutral without being central of two extremes, if there is only one extreme the neutral point previously now becomes the new extreme.

Suffering is again, not a bad thing, many people deserve suffering for the wrong they have done.

 

[Deleted member 55437]

Stop it bro

 

[liberty]

God can create a perfect paper test. He is all-powerful. The test would involve zero suffering and be superior to being tested your whole life by suffering evil actions.


Its anti free will to make someone participate in a world where they have to suffer evil for X purpose, as opposed to a world where evil doesnt exist as a test metric for said purpose and you can do whatever you want. You can have a world where people are unaffected by consequences, at least negatively.



I haven't. Earlier you said being unable to fly isnt an example of a restriction on free will, because "it's not for mortals".
In my world, all evil actions are beyond mortals in the same way. Not even that the people lack the capacity, but the world has nothing in it where evilness can be exercised.


yet it's neutral from a human standpoint, it doesnt have any meaningful negative consequences, while still being part of god's test. He can do his testing in a way where we suffer less.


You can attribute whatever you like, the fact is that it causes way less negative emotions in humans. A universe like that would contain less suffering. With meaningless, "button-mashing" actions vs good ones. Murder and all other ills of society are nonexistent. A universe like that would be superior to our current one. And as i mentioned above, it does not restrict free will.

ngl dude im done debating after this last reply, i dont like responding to like 10 different points each comment

 

[gingerjfl]

For humanity sake stop bro

im not exactly hussein bro

 

[Deleted member 55437]

im not exactly hussein bro

Who ?

 

[gingerjfl]

ngl dude im done debating after this last reply, i dont like responding to like 10 different points each comment

Thats fine, it was interesting to hear ur takes and i think the consensus is we should stop anyways

 

[gingerjfl]

Who ?

Saddam?