There is still not a 1 single beforr after photo of MSE + FM

[MentalistKebab]

Seriously, not a single one in the whole internet, there is no way to get more forward growth in maxilla in adults rather than leforts, its that simple

 

[Stare]

There is a guy on YouTube who documented it.

 

[hairyballscel]

jfl if you think it wont cause maxilla movement

MARPE has promising simulations, so imagine MSE

 

[MentalistKebab]

There is a guy on YouTube who documented it.

jfl if you think it wont cause maxilla movement

MARPE has promising simulations, so imagine MSE

I still havent seen a 1 forward growth result, and when I say people to link me, they link me random guys or womens who only got MSE and reduced their nasolabial folds

 

[hairyballscel]

I still havent seen a 1 forward growth result, and when I say people to link me, they link me random guys or womens who only got MSE and reduced their nasolabial folds

 

[Chadakin]

because it's a meme

 

[MentalistKebab]

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Simulation nigga, this guy doesnt exist

 

[hairyballscel]

because it's a meme

disprove it then faggot

 

[MentalistKebab]

There is a guy on YouTube who documented it.

If you are talking about Ronald Ead he didnt use FM either and have no different side profile

 

[MentalistKebab]

disprove it then faggot

Its a meme, there is no forward growth result in the whole internet

 

[hairyballscel]

Simulation nigga, this guy doesnt exist

so? still proves my point

 

[hairyballscel]

Its a meme, there is no forward growth result in the whole internet

https://looksmax.org/threads/face-pulling-before-after-radiograph.121738/

Protraction of maxilla in rhesus monkeys by controlled extraoral forces

www.sciencedirect.com

 

[Darkstrand]

I still havent seen a 1 forward growth result, and when I say people to link me, they link me random guys or womens who only got MSE and reduced their nasolabial folds

Because that takes some time... CopeAndRope facepuller thread, which sparked general interest in that stuff is from October or something, can't expect any huge results in that time frame

 

[hairyballscel]

I don't why ppl on this site love calling everything cope, JFL, good luck at getting a Lefort 3

 

[Gonthar]

Good evening sir, have you tried mewing?

 

[hairyballscel]

Because that takes some time... CopeAndRope facepuller thread, which sparked general interest in that stuff is from October or something, can't expect any huge results in that time frame

you can see results in that time tbh, a 19 year old girl used a facepuller for 4 months and saw changes

 

[Darkstrand]

you can see results in that time tbh, a 19 year old girl used a facepuller for 4 months and saw changes

I know... That's why this thread is even more retarded, cause there are before after facepulling pics
But he probably wants to see subhuman to chad results, which he won't see even less so in that time span

 

[MentalistKebab]

https://looksmax.org/threads/face-pulling-before-after-radiograph.121738/

Protraction of maxilla in rhesus monkeys by controlled extraoral forces

www.sciencedirect.com

Ok so 19 yo girl who used it 17 hours a day for 4 month got 2mm forward and 2mm DOWNWARD movement, that is not lifefuel most guys here like me who need ccw rotation.

I don't why ppl on this site love calling everything cope, JFL, good luck at getting a Lefort 3

I am fully convinced bimax + custom upper midface implants will solve my problem, its just I was thinking FM would be a more natural, cheaper once and for all solution.
It turns out its a cope

 

[hairyballscel]

I know... That's why this thread is even more retarded, cause there are before after facepulling pics
But he probably wants to see subhuman to chad results, which he won't see even less so in that time span

Exactly, everyone on this forum want some quick easy, cheap surgery that will take you from 2 to 8 psl jfl, some think it’s a lefort 3 for some reason

 

[curryslayerordeath]

wtf do u niggas want lmao, theres many users on this forum who have alrdy been thru the whole thing. ppl generally dont want their faces spread across an incel site so theres rarely full results publicly on here. if u go in for consults, u can find clinical b/a's, stop being so fucking lazy.

(this applies to most of the more obscure surgeries)

 

[MentalistKebab]

I know... That's why this thread is even more retarded, cause there are before after facepulling pics
But he probably wants to see subhuman to chad results, which he won't see even less so in that time span

Why cant I find any before after pic with ccw rotation ? Why ?

You guys are like some sort of religious cult, "yeah bro there are many photos" where nigga, where ?

 

[hairyballscel]

Ok so 19 yo girl who used it 17 hours a day for 4 month got 2mm forward and 2mm DOWNWARD movement, that is not lifefuel most guys here like me who need ccw rotation

They pulled DOWNWARDS that’s why, if you pull upwards you get upward movement. The simulation I posted shows how to get CCW rotation. It’s not impossible

Your being ignorant on purpose, it’s common sense that if you pull downwards you get downward growth lol. Why do you want MSE to be cope so badly?

It probably won’t turn you into a chad but it can be a big step in that direction if done properly...

 

[Good_Little_Goy]

so? still proves my point

Jfl if you think it always turns out like that
we don’t know how that would even look on an actual person
mse and fm is promising but stop coping acting like we know for sure what results one can expect

 

[curryslayerordeath]

"yeah bro there are many photos" where nigga, where ?

 

[MentalistKebab]

They pulled DOWNWARDS that’s why, if you pull upwards you get upward movement. The simulation I posted shows how to get CCW rotation. It’s not impossible

Your being ignorant on purpose, it’s common sense that if you pull downwards you get downward growth lol. Why do you want MSE to be cope so badly?

It probably won’t turn you into a chad but it can be a big step in that direction if done properly...

I want MSE + FM to be real than anyone else in this forum. I am literally neet all 24/7 for 1 year now on.

 

[Good_Little_Goy]

I want MSE + FM to be real than anyone else in this forum. I am literally neet all 24/7 for 1 year now on.

Tbf it seems very promising
we can’t truly know what results to expect until multiple before and afters come in
if you have the opportunity to get it done then you should absolutely do it, it’s worth a shot and a fraction of the cost of bimax and upper midface implants

 

[Mongrelcel]

quick easy, cheap surgery

lefort 3

JFL

 

[Darkstrand]

Why cant I find any before after pic with ccw rotation ? Why ?

You guys are like some sort of religious cult, "yeah bro there are many photos" where nigga, where ?

Bro search for that stuff... She was that girl im thinking of was posted on here...
But you probably don't care for those results cause it wasn't a 7 PSL increase

 

[MentalistKebab]

Bro search for that stuff... She was that girl im thinking of was posted on here...
But you probably don't care for those results cause it wasn't a 7 PSL increase

I only saw one girls results with downward rotation, which is lifefuel for only a minority of guys here.