There isn’t any honor in war

[wishIwasSalludon]

War is still inevitable though, resources are limited and everyone wants them

I’m aware of this

 

[cromagnon]

Just because something is necessary now doesn’t mean it will be in the future

Slavery used to be necessary but society has moved beyond it

What’s hard to understand

No we haven’t

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

Bro I swear u make threads just to be contrarian and defend retarded leftist viewpoints

No I just come to my own conclusions about things

I don’t care about what the people on TV say, what the people in real life say

Or what people here say

I create my own values even if it means going against everyone here

Which is where I get most of my interactions

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

No we haven’t

Shit ur right slavery is a bad example because we still rely on child slaves in Congo mining cobalt for electronics for example

But fuck you get what I mean, there have been things in the past that we used but no longer need too

This is undeniable

 

[cromagnon]

Shit ur right slavery is a bad example because we still rely on child slaves in Congo mining cobalt for electronics for example

But fuck you get what I mean, there have been things in the past that we used but no longer need too

This is undeniable

Like what

 

[whitebitchslayer]

i just want to leave my life behind and do something. i thought America had the least casualties

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

Like what

Hunting

We used to need to hunt but we’ve moved past the need for it

Sure people hunt but not for necessity atleast in developed communities

 

[cromagnon]

Hunting

We used to need to hunt but we’ve moved past the need for it

Sure people hunt but not for necessity atleast in developed communities

Not true

We just hunt in mass killing farms now the only differentiation is that we control the whole process from birth to death for the animals

Regardless we still hunt them and rely on them for food

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

We just hunt in mass killing farms

That’s not hunting

I’m using the word hunting in the traditional sense

We don’t need to go out with spears and chase deer for miles

Wait for the deer to get tired and then stab them to death

We have evolved past it

 

[cromagnon]

That’s not hunting
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I’m using the word hunting in the traditional sense

We don’t need to go out with spears and chase deer for miles

Wait for the deer to get tired and then stab them to death

We have evolved past it

Yes..but at its basis it’s still hunting so we didn’t abandon it, we’re just doing it in a different way

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

Yes..but at its basis it’s still hunting so we didn’t abandon it, we’re just doing it in a different way

Bro that’s not hunting

Like literally by definition

Another thing we’ve moved past is religion

Society is secular now

But before societies were deeply entrenched with religion

 

[cromagnon]

Bro that’s not hunting

Like literally by definition

Another thing we’ve moved past is religion

Society is secular now

But before societies were deeply entrenched with religion

Hunting by definition it doesn’t matter the point is we still haven’t moved past the need for hunting we just do it in a different way

And no society isn’t really secular now most of society’s moral framework is based off of Christian doctrine so until we abandon that or create a wholly secular moral system we aren’t secular

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

Hunting by definition it doesn’t matter

Definitions matter because without definitions how can you understand what someone is saying

past the need for hunting we just do it in a different way

That’s not how I’m using the word I’m using the word in the traditional sense

There’s no need to hunt in the traditional sense we’ve moved beyond it

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

And no society isn’t really secular now most of society’s moral framework is based off of Christian doctrine so until we abandon that or create a wholly secular moral system we aren’t secular

I’m talking about its direct influence, that doesn’t exist anymore

There’s no Mandate of Heaven, there’s no state religion, there’s no idea of being gods chosen in modern government

We’ve moved past those things

 

[cromagnon]

Definitions matter because without definitions how can you understand what someone is saying


That’s not how I’m using the word I’m using the word in the traditional sense

There’s no need to hunt in the traditional sense we’ve moved beyond it

Yes but we still need food we just evolved

It’s still hunting lol just in a different form

The purpose is still The same

 

[cromagnon]

I’m talking about its direct influence, that doesn’t exist anymore

There’s no Mandate of Heaven, there’s no state religion, there’s no idea of being gods chosen in modern government

We’ve moved past those things

Bruh what how is a moral framework of a society not a direct influence

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

The purpose is still The same

We’re not talking about purposes it’s about mechanisms

The goal of war is to spread ideas, take resources etc.

But we can envisions a world where those are decided thought trade and diplomacy

What I’m saying is we can move past the mechanisms not the purposes

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

Because an ethnic killing a random white person is doing it out of greed

Is it not greedy to kill peoole in mass because you want their land and resources?

Because that’s what war has always been about

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

Bruh what how is a moral framework of a society not a direct influence

Because no one is explicitly saying or think we should do X thing because our God or religion says so in government

 

[ey88]

Is it not greedy to kill peoole in mass because you want their land and resources?

Because that’s what war has always been about

War is also fair

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

War is also fair

Fair in what sense?

Do you mean fair in the sense that people can fight back?

Well a white person shot by an ethnic could’ve fought back too

What’s your points!

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

You should love your country

My country doesn’t love me

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

My country doesn’t love me

@ey88 why did you jfl this its true

 

[ey88]

@ey88 why did you jfl this its true

I don’t remember bro

 

[Gonthar]

 

[alriodai]

I agree @cromagnon doesnt hole this view he thinks war itself is somehow good

This nigga looks down on the street walking when he sees a nigger or an arab walking towards him and even switch street sidewalks sometimes and he out here talking about "it's human nature for war we should do it youpee!!"

 

[superpsycho]

same i refuse to die for jews

inb4 muh “youll get drafted” jfl just dodge and make them come get u, if u willingly go ur a cuck

not going to die so richfags can get richer

 

[superpsycho]

jfl my class watched this faggot bluepilled movie a few weeks ago

 

[Gonthar]

jfl my class watched this faggot bluepilled movie a few weeks ago

Yes, we watched it too in class to learn about American history(though the part about burning civilians was made up apparently).

 

[superpsycho]

Imagine being a ukranian fighting in the frontlines, while ukranian women go in the uk and us and get fucked. Brutal for ukranians

literally watched a rehab room about this jfl

war has to be the biggest cuck in human history, i will die in the safety and comfort of my own bedroom before i die on the frontline like a zog-sucking faggot

 

[superpsycho]

Yes, we watched it too in class to learn about American history(though the part about burning civilians was made up apparently).

i dont believe anything i see in movies anyway

its just hollywood jews trying to make you think a certain way, that entire movie is just jewish propaganda, as for 90% of all movies

 

[Debetro]

Just because something is necessary now doesn’t mean it will be in the future

Slavery used to be necessary but society has moved beyond it

What’s hard to understand

Your fellow africans still enslave each other

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

Your fellow africans still enslave each other

I’m talking about in western society obviously, and it’s illegal in Africa just like how it is everywhere

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Not anymore

If I lived in a country I was proud of I would fight in war

No you wouldn't

 

[cromagnon]

We’re not talking about purposes it’s about mechanisms

The goal of war is to spread ideas, take resources etc.

But we can envisions a world where those are decided thought trade and diplomacy

What I’m saying is we can move past the mechanisms not the purposes

You literally said we’ve evolved past the need for some things never it’s “mechanisms”

Hunting

We used to need to hunt but we’ve moved past the need for it

Sure people hunt but not for necessity atleast in developed communities

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

You literally said we’ve evolved past the need for some things never it’s “mechanisms”

Mechanisms are things by definition how do these statements contradict

 

[cromagnon]

You literally said we’ve evolved past the need for some things never it’s “mechanisms”

You’re just being pedantic if you’re point is mechanisms, there’s virtually no difference between old age primal hunting and modern age hunting, both serve the same purpose, to kill and harvest animals for our own use

 

[cromagnon]

Mechanisms are things by definition how do these statements contradict

You’re just being pedantic now the ultimate point is that they both serve the same purpose so we really haven’t evolved past the need for hunting we just do it in a different way

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

same purpose

I never claimed we could get past the purposes

The mechanisms are what we can get past

We can move past war potentially and replace it with diplomacy and trade

 

[cromagnon]

I never claimed we could get past the purposes

The mechanisms are what we can get past

We can move past war potentially and replace it with diplomacy and trade

You never specified you just said we’ve evolved past the need for some things

 

[cromagnon]

I never claimed we could get past the purposes

The mechanisms are what we can get past

We can move past war potentially and replace it with diplomacy and trade

No we can’t because violence is instinctual and apart of the human experience

You can’t overcome violence literally impossible because it will always happen in some way

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

You never specified you just said we’ve evolved past the need for some things

I never mentioned anything about the purpose of war so everyone seemed to understand that I was saying we could move past war itself not the reason we do war

I didn’t see it as necessary because most people would figure it out

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

No we can’t because violence is instinctual and apart of the human experience

You can overcome instinct

 

[cromagnon]

You can overcome instinct

- daily fapper

 

[cromagnon]

Just because something is necessary now doesn’t mean it will be in the future

Slavery used to be necessary but society has moved beyond it

What’s hard to understand

.

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

- daily fapper

this made me cage