There really is no point LTRing unless she's a virgin

[Aladin]

That's actually not true, a woman can bleed whether her hymen is broken or not.

The hymen being torn doesn't mean it's bleeding, you've sucked into too much incel propaganda.

Not all hymens that are torn are bleeding, but some hymens do bleed.

 

[Azonin]

Not all hymens that are torn are bleeding, but some hymens do bleed.

Yeah how many bleed, because if most don't then bleeding isn't a sign of virginity, which is your argument.

So show a source that most do otherwise get the fuck out.

 

[Xangsane]

I dont give a single fuck about threads I asked for evidence

I did

 

[standardcel]

Yeah how many bleed, because if most don't then bleeding isn't a sign of virginity, which is your argument.

So show a source that most do otherwise get the fuck out.

90% bleed

 

[Aladin]

Yeah how many bleed, because if most don't then bleeding isn't a sign of virginity, which is your argument.

So show a source that most do otherwise get the fuck out.

this says 50% which is a decent chunk

 

[Azonin]

I did

so post some statistics/studies

 

[Aladin]

90% bleed

I think this is closer to truth.

 

[greycel]

Here’s the kicker, no one is entitled to a virgin period.

I am. I had the chance to slay a Stacylite who was my exact type and in love with me.
Before I even saw her, she was exactly my type to the point that out of the millions of women I ever saw IRL or Online, she was in the top 3 before I talked with her.
And there were a few HTB who I could've too.

I'm not going to get into the stories, and the level of the IOIs I was given (it was right below the level of straight up me putting my dick inside of her), but I'm being 100% honest. I didn't even give 1 IOI, they did all of this, yet I didn't sleep with them.. because even though that Stacylite for example was a Terrastacy in my eyes (she looked like me ran through a female filter), I didn't fuck her because I was holding out for my future virgin wife. There were reasons I couldn't LTR the Stacylite, but I won't mention out of respect.
Bare in mind, back then I was edging every single day for 30mins for months at that point. I was always on the verge of busting at any point and I would get a boner so easily. And I still didn't have sex

If God truly doesn't give me a virgin, I'll have to go through the rest of my life alone. I've come to terms with it. I'll foster a few children and be the best father for them. I'm not going to promote any Hedonism into this world. I'm not going to bend my morals in even the hardest test.

I'm saying 95% of men would've slept with any girl that shows attraction to them.
99.9% of men would sleep with a stacylite that shows attraction to them.
99.9999% of men would sleep with a stacylite who has the exact same personality, and was doing all the hard work of moving towards you..

This girl was a terrastacy in my eyes. Somebody exactly my type (and she said I was exactly hers too). The best looking girl (or top 3), I have ever seen for me.
And I still didn't sleep with her.

Not necessarily, it could just be that the idea of loving a filthy whore is disgusting.

Yet a person who is STRing, while sleeping with those women would have his standards dropped.
I wouldn't even spit on a whore, let alone put my dick inside them.
You can't have best of both worlds buddy.
Especially when you won't even like the "best" of the other. The other "best" only other virgins would like.
Guys who sleep around, or even have had more than 3 partners would prefer a girl sexually who had at least 1.

Who is he? OP?

Yes
This thread is reaching the naive minds of the young greycels.
They are easily influenced, and will do as society tells them to do (indirectly).
They will try to emulate the behaviour of their favourite rappers/streamers/celebrities.
And OP is not making the important distinction that the STR dudes will not even like a virgin.

Not only is he preventing their minds from being corrupted, he's corrupting them further with false ideals

 

[Azonin]

90% bleed

Source or didnt happen

 

[Azonin]

this says 50% which is a decent chunk

Nah just post a source for me to read

 

[standardcel]

Source or didnt happen

Ask your mum faggot I’m sure she bleeded

 

[Aladin]

I am. I had the chance to slay a Stacylite who was my exact type and in love with me.
Before I even saw her, she was exactly my type to the point that out of the millions of women I ever saw IRL or Online, she was in the top 3 before I talked with her.
And there were a few HTB who I could've too.

I'm not going to get into the stories, and the level of the IOIs I was given (it was right below the level of straight up me putting my dick inside of her), but I'm being 100% honest. I didn't even give 1 IOI, they did all of this, yet I didn't sleep with them.. because even though that Stacylite for example was a Terrastacy in my eyes (she looked like me ran through a female filter), I didn't fuck her because I was holding out for my future virgin wife. There were reasons I couldn't LTR the Stacylite, but I won't mention out of respect.
Bare in mind, back then I was edging every single day for 30mins for months at that point. I was always on the verge of busting at any point and I would get a boner so easily. And I still didn't have sex

If God truly doesn't give me a virgin, I'll have to go through the rest of my life alone. I've come to terms with it. I'll foster a few children and be the best father for them. I'm not going to promote any Hedonism into this world. I'm not going to bend my morals in even the hardest test.

I'm saying 95% of men would've slept with any girl that shows attraction to them.
99.9% of men would sleep with a stacylite that shows attraction to them.
99.9999% of men would sleep with a stacylite who has the exact same personality, and was doing all the hard work of moving towards you..

This girl was a terrastacy in my eyes. Somebody exactly my type (and she said I was exactly hers too). The best looking girl (or top 3), I have ever seen for me.
And I still didn't sleep with her.


Yet a person who is STRing, while sleeping with those women would have his standards dropped.
I wouldn't even spit on a whore, let alone put my dick inside them.
You can't have best of both worlds buddy.
Especially when you won't even like the "best" of the other. The other "best" only other virgins would like.
Guys who sleep around, or even have had more than 3 partners would prefer a girl sexually who had at least 1.


Yes
This thread is reaching the naive minds of the young greycels.
They are easily influenced, and will do as society tells them to do (indirectly).
They will try to emulate the behaviour of their favourite rappers/streamers/celebrities.
And OP is not making the important distinction that the STR dudes will not even like a virgin.

Not only is he preventing their minds from being corrupted, he's corrupting them further with false ideals

Yeah your dick was right near sex. You still sinned technically. But no one is entitled to virgins.

 

[Azonin]

Ask your mum faggot I’m sure she bleeded

bled*

conversation over you have no proof.

 

[standardcel]

bled*

conversation over you have no proof.

Go ask her why do ask incels on this forum

 

[Azonin]

Go ask her why do ask incels on this forum

why do ask i incels on forum? because like you incels are dumb, agree you?

 

[standardcel]

why do ask i incels on forum? because like you incels are dumb, agree you?

Incels on this forum were always right

 

[Azonin]

Incels on this forum were always right

So why can't they provide accurate sources this time? what happened

 

[standardcel]

So why can't they provide accurate sources this time? what happened

I showed you hymens and 90% break due to their shape and if a tissue breaks blood comes from it

 

[greycel]

Yeah your dick was right near sex. You still sinned technically. But no one is entitled to virgins.

No not that close, I don't want to say it out of respect but all I'll say is we were clothed.
I definitely am entitled to a virgin.

I had somebody I saw as a terrastacy, somebody rarer for me than even PSL Icons like Meghan Fox or Margot Robbie (imagine if they came up to you and did all the work and were in love with you and you two were together on the verge of sex, but you held your composure).
That's the level I'm talking about.

If anybody deserves a virgin in this world, I'm most definitely in the top 10.

 

[Aladin]

No not that close, I don't want to say it out of respect but all I'll say is we were clothed.
I definitely am entitled to a virgin.

I had somebody I saw as a terrastacy, somebody rarer for me than even PSL Icons like Meghan Fox or Margot Robbie (imagine if they came up to you and did all the work and were in love with you and you two were together on the verge of sex, but you held your composure).
That's the level I'm talking about.

If anybody deserves a virgin in this world, I'm most definitely in the top 10.

Maybe deserving but entitlements don’t exist.

Not sure why u didn’t pursue a non sexual relationship until marriage.

 

[Azonin]

I showed you hymens and 90% break due to their shape and if a tissue breaks blood comes from it

You showed me one instance of classification of hymens which discredits your source (since there are many different ones).

And you've never showed me a source that says most bleed, not a single one.

 

[standardcel]

You showed me one instance of classification of hymens which discredits your source (since there are many different ones).

And you've never showed me a source that says most bleed, not a single one.

Some girls bleed the first time they have sex, but not all girls do. The reason some girls bleed the first time they have sex is because their hymen stretches or tears. The hymen is a very thin piece of skin-like tissue that partly covers the opening of the vagina. Some girls are born without much of a hymen. Other girls' hymens cover a large portion of the vagina's opening. It all depends on the girl.

Here it clearly says it bleeds when it stretches or tear and if it doesn’t bleed it’s because they are born without much of the hymen so they have the rare shape I showed you like 10%

Will I Bleed the First Time? (for Teens)

Find out what the experts have to say.

kidshealth.org

 

[ElTruecel]

But you will have fucked other girls too so it literally goes both ways???

No because we’re men

 

[Azonin]

Some girls bleed the first time they have sex, but not all girls do. The reason some girls bleed the first time they have sex is because their hymen stretches or tears. The hymen is a very thin piece of skin-like tissue that partly covers the opening of the vagina. Some girls are born without much of a hymen. Other girls' hymens cover a large portion of the vagina's opening. It all depends on the girl.

Here it clearly says it bleeds when it stretches or tear and if it doesn’t bleed it’s because they are born without much of the hymen so they have the rare shape I showed you like 10%

Will I Bleed the First Time? (for Teens)

Find out what the experts have to say.

kidshealth.org

yeah so how many bleed for the first time 20%? 30%?

So the vast majority that lose their virginity don't? Sounds like a weak sign of an unbroken hymen.

 

[standardcel]

yeah so how many bleed for the first time 20%? 30%?

So the vast majority that lose their virginity don't? Sounds like a weak sign of an unbroken hymen.

90% bleed if it tears or stretches it bleeds. It’s impossible to have hymen broken without bleeding

 

[Azonin]

90% bleed if it tears or stretches it bleeds. It’s impossible to have hymen broken without bleeding

90%? Nice. Post Source.

God we just keep going in circles don't we.

 

[wannamogger]

yeah so how many bleed for the first time 20%? 30%?

So the vast majority that lose their virginity don't? Sounds like a weak sign of an unbroken hymen.

Some girls bleed the first time they have sex, but not all girls do. The reason some girls bleed the first time they have sex is because their hymen stretches or tears. The hymen is a very thin piece of skin-like tissue that partly covers the opening of the vagina. Some girls are born without much of a hymen. Other girls' hymens cover a large portion of the vagina's opening. It all depends on the girl.

Here it clearly says it bleeds when it stretches or tear and if it doesn’t bleed it’s because they are born without much of the hymen so they have the rare shape I showed you like 10%

Will I Bleed the First Time? (for Teens)

Find out what the experts have to say.

kidshealth.org

Niggers are really arguing about hymens, mire you.

 

[greycel]

Maybe deserving but entitlements don’t exist.

Not sure why u didn’t pursue a non sexual relationship until marriage.

Because I don't believe in this immorality.
It's a vain existence.

It's not fulfilling and everything I've been doing in the last 4 years of my life has been due to fulfillment.

Do you know how painful it would be to wake up next to your wife, knowing that you have put your dick inside another girl before, and you are lying to her about it.
That I was inside another girl's body and your own wife (the mother of your children) doesn't know.

I remember the few days after that night, I kept on seeing her (we were together in a group environment for a month+). I still talked with her everyday, and it sucked so much because out of every woman I've ever talked with, she was probably in the top 10 that I vibed with the most. We had the exact same personalities.

And I had more opportunities to sleep with her, but I didn't, because I couldn't see myself marrying her.

Maybe in a different Universe things worked out, and I am not even typing here but making memories with her rn.
She was a terrastacy man in my eyes, before I even talked with her. Then from an objective standpoint, she was in the top 10 ppl who shared my personality.
I'm the unluckiest dude in the world. That was my thoughts after the experience for months. I'm not going to mention why though specifically I couldn't LTR her.. but now I am so happy I didn't sleep with her.

I would've regretted it so much.
But also a part of me wishes things worked out, because I would've been quite literally the luckiest person in the world.
I truly believe she was a potential soulmate of mine.

I've never revealed this on .org before, only to 2 people ever on DMs

 

[Azonin]

Niggers are really arguing about hymens, mire you.

just incel theory of how to know if a girl is a virgin

which shouldn't even be the point, girls do a bunch of other shit.

 

[standardcel]

90%? Nice. Post Source.

God we just keep going in circles don't we.

Ur single digit iq to 90% it’s impossible they won’t bleed due to their shape of hymen

 

[Azonin]

Ur single digit iq to 90% it’s impossible they won’t bleed due to their shape of hymen

Prove it.

 

[standardcel]

Prove it.

Here for single digit iq retards again like urself

Some girls bleed the first time they have sex, but not all girls do. The reason some girls bleed the first time they have sex is because their hymen stretches or tears. The hymen is a very thin piece of skin-like tissue that partly covers the opening of the vagina. Some girls are born without much of a hymen. Other girls' hymens cover a large portion of the vagina's opening. It all depends on the girl.

Here it clearly says it bleeds when it stretches or tear and if it doesn’t bleed it’s because they are born without much of the hymen so they have the rare shape I showed you like 10%

Will I Bleed the First Time? (for Teens)

Find out what the experts have to say.

kidshealth.org

​

 

[Azonin]

Here for single digit iq retards again like urself

Some girls bleed the first time they have sex, but not all girls do. The reason some girls bleed the first time they have sex is because their hymen stretches or tears. The hymen is a very thin piece of skin-like tissue that partly covers the opening of the vagina. Some girls are born without much of a hymen. Other girls' hymens cover a large portion of the vagina's opening. It all depends on the girl.

Here it clearly says it bleeds when it stretches or tear and if it doesn’t bleed it’s because they are born without much of the hymen so they have the rare shape I showed you like 10%

Will I Bleed the First Time? (for Teens)

Find out what the experts have to say.

kidshealth.org

​

I've just read it, that's not what it says.

Where does it say 90% will experience bleeding?

 

[standardcel]

I've just read it, that's not what it says.

Where does it say 90% will experience bleeding?

because most have the shape where it’s impossible to have sex without tearing it apart

 

[Azonin]

because most have the shape where it’s impossible to have sex without tearing it apart

The shape of the hymen varies too much to make a blanket statement like that, you rely on biblical ideas rather than scientific ones which is cringe, there is actual evidence suggesting that most women don't experience bleeding during first vaginal intercourse, you also cannot spell for fuck sakes, give up incel.

 

[standardcel]

The shape of the hymen varies too much to make a blanket statement like that, you rely on biblical ideas rather than scientific ones which is cringe, there is actual evidence suggesting that most women don't experience bleeding during first vaginal intercourse, you also cannot spell for fuck sakes, give up incel.

Cope more

 

[Azonin]

Cope more

you havent sent the sources i have nothing to cope about

 

[standardcel]

you havent sent the sources i have nothing to cope about

Cope

 

[Azonin]

Cope

With wut

 

[Zelenskyiv]

Well yes I get it but low value doesn’t automatically mean it needs to be matched with low value, we may be considered low value by trashy whores, doesn’t mean we should be matched with them

For example I spoke to you before about festival sluts who take all sorts of drugs and fuck random guys for 5 days straight. I’d rather never go near a female ever again than be with someone like that. Idc if I’m considered low value by women, those type of girls are genuine human filth who make me sick just by thinking of them

I don’t demand a virgin seeing as there’s zero virgin women at my age but at the same time i’d never be with a true whore. I still want a gf, mainly so that I stop watching porn and stop living like a clueless kid with no experience. But I’d never degrade myself by dating a girl like the type I just described.

Neither would I. But i'm just saying logically that's how it is. I'm pairing low value with low value and high value with high value.
Not saying that it should be like this, but we'd have to fight back for it to not be. Sadly it's not a Disney movie where the tormented little incel gets the nice girl.







Fuck this thread got a lot of replies. I'll try to reply to most later.

 

[robtical]

The true winners are the ones who marry their high school sweatheart.

Not as good as it sounds. I have seen many divorced by their sweetheart. Living in distance and meeting for good time is one thing, living together with responsibilities is another. The latter will burst bubble for most of the sweetheart couples

 

[infini]

Virgin or Death

Experienced this for 10 years but you have to be realistic within where you are in life and no longer worry about it anymore. Unless you have any ideas on how to pick up foids younger than you by about 10 years then idk what else to plan for when the average user here is ethnic, schizo or virgin or all.

 

[Neptune299]

if she's white, she won't be a virgin. You legit have to join ISIS to get a virgin nowadays.

It’s really not that hard man. My gf was a virgin when I met her, just have to be in the right spaces I.e my church

 

[King Solomon]

No point in an LTR with a virgin if you're not in a Christian Patriarchy like the Amish. She's still a part of this cucked Edomite/Canaanite Jewish society of social media, porn, jobs, indoctrination camps, inside of the unregulated sexual marketplace.