There's essentially four groups of men

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1. Chads who can fuck in any circumstances. Can only be incel if religious and abstaining.

2. Guys who could fuck in the right circumstances with NT. This group can become incels after school or if their confidence is destroyed by early rejections in life.

3. Guys who could fuck, but not stacies. This group can become incel if they have standards.

4. Trucels. Must be incel unless high status/money.
 
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Im between 2 and 3

How old are the females you usually bang?
 
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Tricks pimps and simps
 
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1. Chads who can fuck in any circumstances. Can only be incel if religious and abstaining.

2. Guys who could fuck in the right circumstances with NT. This group can become incels after school or if their confidence is destroyed by early rejections in life.

3. Guys who could fuck, but not stacies. This group can become incel if they have standards.

4. Trucels. Must be incel unless high status/money.
what groups are me and my former friend?
 
You are severly overestimating number of incels or people who "may become incels".
In reality incels are tiny minority, and vast majority of guys get laid.
 
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Im between 2 and 3

How old are the females you usually bang?
Between 18-25 usually, but occasionally someone closer to my age. Woe to me when I age out of this demographic.
 
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You are severly overestimating number of incels or people who "may become incels".
In reality incels are tiny minority, and vast majority of guys get laid.
I think the number of trucels is low, but many people outside of trucels can become incel
 
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I'm legit in three digits. I constantly approach, though, and try to escalate.

i believe that, but i asked @Ken because he was very generous to himself when self-classifying
 
Why do you think he's a trucel?

all his posts about interactions with girls are about him being brutally friendzoned because he is a timid bitch

vast majority of (sexually unsuccessful) men believe they could easily start slaying if only they changed some (actually completely irrelevant) X about their behavior/approach
 
all his posts about interactions with girls are about him being brutally friendzoned because he is a timid bitch
It could just be that he's a timid bitch
 
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what groups are me and my former friend?
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1 can not be incel, since if u dont fuck cuz of your beliefs ur volcel
 
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100% yeah.

1. Men who just have women going for them. The top dog of a given social circle all the girls within lust for. These people don’t struggle at least anymore.

2. Men who get by. Top end has an alright dating pool while the bottom is successful few times a year max. Varying levels of effort is needed

3. Incels. They can run something like betabuxxing, dumpster diving, humiliating relationship dynamic though and ‘ascend’ though.

4. Trucel. Can buy women I guess. Or be a pet for a dominatrix.
 
1. Chads who can fuck in any circumstances. Can only be incel if religious and abstaining.

2. Guys who could fuck in the right circumstances with NT. This group can become incels after school or if their confidence is destroyed by early rejections in life.

3. Guys who could fuck, but not stacies. This group can become incel if they have standards.

4. Trucels. Must be incel unless high status/money.
5. People who think abstaining = incel and not vocel

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100% yeah.

1. Men who just have women going for them. The top dog of a given social circle all the girls within lust for. These people don’t struggle at least anymore.

2. Men who get by. Top end has an alright dating pool while the bottom is successful few times a year max. Varying levels of effort is needed

3. Incels. They can run something like betabuxxing, dumpster diving, humiliating relationship dynamic though and ‘ascend’ though.

4. Trucel. Can buy women I guess. Or be a pet for a dominatrix.
Not nuanced enough. "Women" are not a monolith. Most guys can get fat girls -- that doesn't make them slayers.
 
Not nuanced enough. "Women" are not a monolith. Most guys can get fat girls -- that doesn't make them slayers.
It’s assumed the women is looksmatch or decent enough.
 
I don't think 2/10s want to date other 2/10
Being that ugly usually comes with being simple minded and not really caring about looks or just being in an ‘ugly bubble’ like the slums of mumbai or some tribal village. The rare normal 2/10s men will be trucel though
 
3. Guys who could fuck, but not stacies. This group can become incel if they have standards.
Standardcels.....assemble!!!
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I don't think 2/10s want to date other 2/10
Yeah but people usually end up with their looksmatch. Typically the man is better than the woman in some way: looks money or status
 
1. Chads who can fuck in any circumstances. Can only be incel if religious and abstaining.

2. Guys who could fuck in the right circumstances with NT. This group can become incels after school or if their confidence is destroyed by early rejections in life.

3. Guys who could fuck, but not stacies. This group can become incel if they have standards.

4. Trucels. Must be incel unless high status/money.
2 and 3 sound the same tbh

But yea I’m a low tier 2 or 3 realistically
 
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1. Chads who can fuck in any circumstances. Can only be incel if religious and abstaining.
How would they be incels if they were voluntarily abstaining?
 
all his posts about interactions with girls are about him being brutally friendzoned because he is a timid bitch

vast majority of (sexually unsuccessful) men believe they could easily start slaying if only they changed some (actually completely irrelevant) X about their behavior/approach
Ive been on 50+ dates in the past 2.5 years. I cant be that ugly if I'm getting dates consistently.

Im still a virgin but I do ghost 90%+ of females after the first or second date. The three that I havent all rejected me after a failed escalation attempt.

NT really does matter if you are in the 2-3 zone. I feel like dying evetime I remember those failed kiss attempts. It completely turned them off. I could have been in a happy LTR right now with a HTB/stacy-lite. If I was low-inhib enough to escalate with no hesitation.
 
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Between 18-25 usually, but occasionally someone closer to my age. Woe to me when I age out of this demographic.
Do you tell them your age before you have sex? Im mid 20's and get called old by 18-20 year old when I tell them my age.
 
you forgot rigma thads who refuse sex because too high sentience to engage in low iq primitive mating rituals
 
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Do you tell them your age before you have sex? Im mid 20's and get called old by 18-20 year old when I tell them my age.
Age doesn't come up much initially, but I just say my actual age now. I used to fraud a few years, but I don't really care anymore.
 
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