There's no need for hardmaxxing as an Oldcel - 90% of your looks as an oldcel is your Hair and staying lean

[fogdart]

Over the weekend, I was invited to a lake party with a bunch of oldcels. 90% of the men who came were your typical oldcel in his 30s/40s - they are had the same look: balding, greying hair and a beer gut. Even as a man, I wondered how their wives/GFs are still attracted to them - I suspect deadbedrooms and a lot of "duty sex". There were two GL guys there: one was a chadlite who was also slightly balding (NW1.5) but was lean as fuck and the other had an average face but was gymcelled AF so he has chadlite SMV for his age. I was tempted to tell the Chadlite about finasteride but I suspect he's gay so he already knows about it. As a gymcelled bbc, I could tell they were mirin my hair and physique because the women were extra nice to me. I realized that having good hair and staying lean will ascend you by at least 1 point in SMV when you become an oldcel (27+). Mid term normies/HTNs with good hair and good body become chadlites after 30.

Edit: Blackpill from the party - when the Chadlite walked in, I heard one woman shout "hey sexy" - I didn't see who she was referring to but immediately I saw the Chadlite I knew it was him because he wasn't at the party when I came there.

TLDR: having good hair and staying lean will ascend you by at least 1 point in SMV when you become an oldcel (27+). Mid term normies/HTNs with good hair and good body become chadlites in SMV after 30.

Also the second "hot guy" looked like this but less gymcelled OFC:

@Germania @Amnesia @Syobevoli @tyronelite @africancel @ProAcktiv @gamma @Blackgymmax @looksmaxxer234 @FromNormietoChad @Salludon @SubhumanCurrycel

 

[germanlooks]

Realtalk but water.
Hair+lean physique+atleast medium collagen+good erection quality
And you mog 99% of other Oldcels

 

[Deleted member 4430]

its doesnt matter
all oldcels looks the same. Sagging soft tissue, sagging fat pads, no collagen

 

[Amnesia]

TBH it's a bit awkward being MUCH better looking than all the other men around u in a hangout like OP described esp when all their GFs are around. You like probably know all the men secretly hate u or are worried u are going to fuck their gf/wife. (Talking about ppl my age, like esp when the women even comment about ur looks in front of their bfs and stuff. U just feel like a douche

I remember a stiatuon like this that happened in the past and one guy I was sure was jealous or whatever of me and started calling me "baby face" cause I looked so much younger than everyone else (they are all my age though) and I was tempted to start some shit with him but being a fake Chad I didnt

 

[germanlooks]

its doesnt matter
all oldcels looks the same. Sagging soft tissue, sagging fat pads, no collagen

Cope

Brad Pitt is almost 20 years older

 

[Deleted member 6273]

I wouldn't say 27+ lol, maybe 35+, lots of guys in their late 20s and early 30s are in ok shape and not norwooding that hard, but past 35 you're are mostly going to be attracting roasties.

 

[Prettyboy]

Aside from these, bones are the most important things for older guys. You might lose your collagen and your skin will sag with time, but if you stay lean and have the bones in your jaw, it will still look good.

And perhaps the most important is height. Being tall of course has advantages in every stage of life, but it is extremely crucial if you are focusing on your career and want to move up on the corporate ladder.

Most people I know irl who are in management all have one thing in common: they are tall. Even if they are fat, that only gives them more authority as their frame and presence is even more pronounced.

 

[germanlooks]

I remember a stiatuon like this that happened in the past and one guy I was sure was jealous or whatever of me and started calling me "baby face" cause I looked so much younger than everyone else (they are all my age though) and I was tempted to start some shit with him but being a fake Chad I didnt

That wouldn’t have happened if you were 6‘3+ tall

 

[fogdart]

TBH it's a bit awkward being MUCH better looking than all the other men around u in a hangout like OP described esp when all their GFs are around. You like probably know all the men secretly hate u or are worried u are going to fuck their gf/wife. (Talking about ppl my age, like esp when the women even comment about ur looks in front of their bfs and stuff. U just feel like a douche

I remember a stiatuon like this that happened in the past and one guy I was sure was jealous or whatever of me and started calling me "baby face" cause I looked so much younger than everyone else (they are all my age though) and I was tempted to start some shit with him but being a fake Chad I didnt

One woman kept telling me to swim. I'm sure she secretly wanted to see my abs - I didn't want to take my top off to make the mog too brutal.

 

[fogdart]

I wouldn't say 27+ lol, maybe 35+, lots of guys in their late 20s and early 30s are in ok shape and not norwooding that hard, but past 35 you're are mostly going to be attracting roasties.

Maybe it's my area but majority of the guys I meet who are 27+ don't have abs and very few are NW0/NW1 - having both and a decent height and face makes you way hotter in comparison.

 

[Deleted member 14203]

Aren't the women just as subhuman as the men though? Like what, maybe 1/20 women stay fuckable until age 40? Most women look like shit past 25. Some of these bitches are hitting the wall at 20 I swear.

 

[Deleted member 11604]

TBH it's a bit awkward being MUCH better looking than all the other men around u in a hangout like OP described esp when all their GFs are around. You like probably know all the men secretly hate u or are worried u are going to fuck their gf/wife. (Talking about ppl my age, like esp when the women even comment about ur looks in front of their bfs and stuff. U just feel like a douche

I remember a stiatuon like this that happened in the past and one guy I was sure was jealous or whatever of me and started calling me "baby face" cause I looked so much younger than everyone else (they are all my age though) and I was tempted to start some shit with him but being a fake Chad I didnt

Yeah you're right bro.
that's why I will eat mcdonald all day, to become fat, smoke weed and drink everyday, and shave the front of my hair to look bald.
And of course I will dress like a hobo.
I don't want to hurt my bro feelings.

 

[Deleted member 4430]

Cope
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Brad Pitt is almost 20 years older

bruh, if you dont see that Pitt had facelift, fillers, botox and I dont know what else, you live in a pretty ugly bubble.

yeah maybe hair is somewhat genetic, but he still colored it tho.

 

[germanlooks]

bruh, if you dont see that Pitt had facelift, fillers, botox and I dont know what else, you live in a pretty ugly bubble.

yeah maybe hair is somewhat genetic, but he still colored it tho.

My point is still valid
Same age:

 

[Deleted member 14323]

putting this on watch, so i can come back in 20 years!

 

[MikeMew'sBitch]

TBH it's a bit awkward being MUCH better looking than all the other men around u in a hangout like OP described esp when all their GFs are around. You like probably know all the men secretly hate u or are worried u are going to fuck their gf/wife. (Talking about ppl my age, like esp when the women even comment about ur looks in front of their bfs and stuff. U just feel like a douche

I remember a stiatuon like this that happened in the past and one guy I was sure was jealous or whatever of me and started calling me "baby face" cause I looked so much younger than everyone else (they are all my age though) and I was tempted to start some shit with him but being a fake Chad I didnt

Babyface is such a cliche "insult" from jelaous people. I was at the houseparty of my classmates while i was still at university (i was the oldest one there at 29 yo, everyone else was 19-22) and since i look really young facially for my age there was this jealous slut who kept calling me babyface. I instinctively noticed negative/jealous tone when she was saying that. Later i found out she has boyfriend thats like 23 but looks like 40, balding, shitty skin with occasional acne scars and crappy thin facial hair, her brother also looks similiar at young age. After that everything was clear, she was just jealous that i youthmogg both her boyfriend and her brother

 

[Gaia262]

Over the weekend, I was invited to a lake party with a bunch of oldcels. 90% of the men who came were your typical oldcel in his 30s/40s - they are had the same look: balding, greying hair and a beer gut. Even as a man, I wondered how their wives/GFs are still attracted to them - I suspect deadbedrooms and a lot of "duty sex". There were two GL guys there: one was a chadlite who was also slightly balding (NW1.5) but was lean as fuck and the other had an average face but was gymcelled AF so he has chadlite SMV for his age. I was tempted to tell the Chadlite about finasteride but I suspect he's gay so he already knows about it. As a gymcelled bbc, I could tell they were mirin my hair and physique because the women were extra nice to me. I realized that having good hair and staying lean will ascend you by at least 1 point in SMV when you become an oldcel (27+). Mid term normies/HTNs with good hair and good body become chadlites after 30.

Edit: Blackpill from the party - when the Chadlite walked in, I heard one woman shout "hey sexy" - I didn't see who she was referring to but immediately I saw the Chadlite I knew it was him because he wasn't at the party when I came there.

TLDR: having good hair and staying lean will ascend you by at least 1 point in SMV when you become an oldcel (27+). Mid term normies/HTNs with good hair and good body become chadlites in SMV after 30.

Also the second "hot guy" looked like this but less gymcelled OFC:
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@Germania @Amnesia @Syobevoli @tyronelite @africancel @ProAcktiv @gamma @Blackgymmax @looksmaxxer234 @FromNormietoChad @Salludon @SubhumanCurrycel

Not true.

I fixed my hairloss with a hair system and have perfect hair

+ fixed my skinny fat body with steroids , liposuction gym and diet.

And my SMV is still shit.

The race pill, height pill and face pill trump everything past the age of 25.

 

[coolguy1]

TBH it's a bit awkward being MUCH better looking than all the other men around u in a hangout like OP described esp when all their GFs are around. You like probably know all the men secretly hate u or are worried u are going to fuck their gf/wife. (Talking about ppl my age, like esp when the women even comment about ur looks in front of their bfs and stuff. U just feel like a douche

I remember a stiatuon like this that happened in the past and one guy I was sure was jealous or whatever of me and started calling me "baby face" cause I looked so much younger than everyone else (they are all my age though) and I was tempted to start some shit with him but being a fake Chad I didnt

Do you use tret?

 

[Chadakin]

Not true.

I fixed my hairloss with a hair system and have perfect hair

+ fixed my skinny fat body with steroids , liposuction gym and diet.

And my SMV is still shit.

The race pill, height pill and face pill trump everything past the age of 25.

How old are you?

 

[Gaia262]

How old are you?

28

 

[fogdart]

28

Race, height & psl? I'm 29 and gymcelling + hair have ascended me among women closer to my age. I'm black btw

 

[Phillybeard1996]

I wouldn't say 27+ lol, maybe 35+, lots of guys in their late 20s and early 30s are in ok shape and not norwooding that hard, but past 35 you're are mostly going to be attracting roasties.

There's people that say 26-28 is peak looks wise for men

 

[CupOfCoffee]

TBH it's a bit awkward being MUCH better looking than all the other men around u in a hangout like OP described esp when all their GFs are around. You like probably know all the men secretly hate u or are worried u are going to fuck their gf/wife. (Talking about ppl my age, like esp when the women even comment about ur looks in front of their bfs and stuff. U just feel like a douche

I remember a stiatuon like this that happened in the past and one guy I was sure was jealous or whatever of me and started calling me "baby face" cause I looked so much younger than everyone else (they are all my age though) and I was tempted to start some shit with him but being a fake Chad I didnt

How old are you?

 

[Deleted member 6273]

There's people that say 26-28 is peak looks wise for men

yeah it depends though but most men peak towards their mid 20s

 

[Phillybeard1996]

yeah it depends though but most men peak towards their mid 20s

Yea pretty boys tend to peak in their teens to maybe early 20s at latest masc/maesthetic men tend to peak mid or late 20s

 

[volcelfatcel]

I wouldn't say 27+ lol, maybe 35+, lots of guys in their late 20s and early 30s are in ok shape and not norwooding that hard, but past 35 you're are mostly going to be attracting roasties.

 

[Deleted member 7044]

ill peak when i hit the grave, the best looking version of me is being a corpse

 

[fogdart]

Yea pretty boys tend to peak in their teens to maybe early 20s at latest masc/maesthetic men tend to peak mid or late 20s

 

[Deleted member 4430]

My point is still valid
Same age:
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so disillusionment it is, ok

 

[tyronelite]

Race, height & psl? I'm 29 and gymcelling + hair have ascended me among women closer to my age. I'm black btw

You're VVvxxx?

 

[tyronelite]

Good story. Inspires me to lean max even more now considering I'm closer to 30

Real life examples > autistic stats & theories

 

[fogdart]

You're VVvxxx?

No, but I've also run the bulge experiment before and we discussed why I didn't run it in my city a few weeks back. This is @Vvvvxxxx he's skinnier than I am

 

[tyronelite]

No, but I've also run the bulge experiment before and we discussed why I didn't run it in my city a few weeks back. This is @Vvvvxxxx he's skinnier than I am

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Which city did you run it in? I highly doubt we can run it now Tinder getting worse

 

[fogdart]

Which city did you run it in? I highly doubt we can run it now Tinder getting worse

Oh yeah I agree tinder is getting worse. I run it in Toronto

 

[oldcelloser]

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he looks so old wtf happened ?

How old are you?

he is 33

No, but I've also run the bulge experiment before and we discussed why I didn't run it in my city a few weeks back. This is @Vvvvxxxx he's skinnier than I am

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exotic factor ; they want to try dat bbc

Maybe it's my area but majority of the guys I meet who are 27+ don't have abs and very few are NW0/NW1 - having both and a decent height and face makes you way hotter in comparison.

ofc; men let themselves go after 30 usually when they get into an LTR and marriage and shit like that
i dont understand these cucks, i mean its not really that hard to maintain 12% , hair with fin and HT (if it doesnt work out) or hair system - probably the easiest out of the bunch
also collagen and good teeth
thats it; thats all you need
oh and despite what this forum believes, you only need to keep looking like HTN with lean mass to mogg and slay, you dont really need to be prime Gandy

Not true.

I fixed my hairloss with a hair system and have perfect hair

+ fixed my skinny fat body with steroids , liposuction gym and diet.

And my SMV is still shit.

The race pill, height pill and face pill trump everything past the age of 25.

you still need to fix your facial flaws, as we've discussed before

 

[Deleted member 275]

Usually the women at age 27+ look far worse though. U legit can't win as an oldcel.

I am roping at 40 or earlier.

 

[oldcelloser]

Usually the women at age 27+ look far worse though. U legit can't win as an oldcel.

I am roping at 40 or earlier.

please dont brother; you are HTn , we will go to SEA and slay well into our 50s

 

[Gaia262]

he looks so old wtf happened ?

he is 33


exotic factor ; they want to try dat bbc

ofc; men let themselves go after 30 usually when they get into an LTR and marriage and shit like that
i dont understand these cucks, i mean its not really that hard to maintain 12% , hair with fin and HT (if it doesnt work out) or hair system - probably the easiest out of the bunch
also collagen and good teeth
thats it; thats all you need
oh and despite what this forum believes, you only need to keep looking like HTN with lean mass to mogg and slay, you dont really need to be prime Gandy

you still need to fix your facial flaws, as we've discussed before

Yeah I've done it almost 2 weeks ago

Bimax, genioplasty, rhinoplasty + custom infraorbital malar implants peek.

A total reconstruction .