There’s no such thing as bad

[Klasik616]

y

Think a little

 

[Alucard69]

emotions arent logical

Are you saying that striving to experience the best emotions to your wellbeing isn't logical?

 

[noobs]

Are you saying that striving to experience the best emotions to your wellbeing isn't logical?

yes

 

[Alucard69]

yes

Then you don't care for yourself.

 

[noobs]

Then you don't care for yourself.

emotions are means to success because emotions dont make you live and if it was it would be impossible since all emotions are relative moving as a sine wave over time

 

[Alucard69]

emotions are means to success because emotions dont make you live and if it was it would be impossible since all emotions are relative moving as a sine wave over time

Why would you even have the will to live if you couldn't experience any emotions explain?

 

[noobs]

Why would you even have the will to live if you couldn't experience any emotions explain?

to succeed

 

[Alucard69]

to succeed

No that's emotional too, emotions give meaning of success for you

 

[noobs]

No that's emotional too, emotions give meaning to success to you

without success you die, how is this emotional?

 

[Alucard69]

without success you die, how is this emotional?

It just is emotional, the reason you don't wanna die is because of emotions strictly lol..

 

[ey88]

It just is emotional, the reason you don't wanna die is because of emotions strictly lol..

I’d say it’s because of instinct, not emotions

 

[noobs]

It just is emotional, the reason you don't wanna die is because of emotions strictly lol..

you dont know why we exist we only know we exist to succeed from the laws of the universe because its why we exist

 

[Alucard69]

I’d say it’s because of instinct, not emotions

The reason he's saying he doesn't want to die and wants to succeed is just emotional, without emotions you can't care about dying persay, i even fact checked this on gpt

 

[noobs]

The reason he's saying he doesn't want to die and wants to succeed is just emotional, without emotions you can't care about dying persay, i even fact checked this on gpt

your emotions only exist to serve success without it your emotions dont exist, emotions are based on logic for success

 

[Alucard69]

you dont know why we exist we only know we exist to succeed from the laws of the universe because its why we exist

What are you getting at with this? Can you elab, this is nothingburger to me. You said i don't know how we exist, but then said we know why we exist?

your emotions only exist to serve success without it your emotions dont exist

Yeah so it's logical to have emotions afterall? Even now your need to 'succeed' is strictly 100% emotional

 

[noobs]

Yeah so it's logical to have emotions afterall? Even now your need to 'succeed' is strictly 100% emotional

emotions can be used as justification but logic supersedes emotion

 

[Alucard69]

emotions can be used as justification but logic supersedes emotion

These are completely man made concepts btw logic and emotion aren't some conjuctive things, 'logic' is just what we use as a term to make sense of things.

And you didn't debunk my statement in any way, the reason you care about not dying is emotional, we know that logically ironically.

 

[lunarflame]

Name one bad thing

jews/ talmudic judaism

 

[lunarflame]

y

because there is a moral lawgiver

 

[noobs]

These are completely man made concepts btw logic and emotion aren't some conjuctive things, 'logic' is just what we use as a term to make sense of things.

And you didn't debunk my statement in any way, the reason you care about not dying is emotional, we know that logically ironically.

logic is critical thinking and emotion is instinctive decision, both serve success, but logic is above emotion

i dont care to go against what you say necessarily

 

[noobs]

because there is a moral lawgiver

in saudi arabia

 

[Alucard69]

logic is critical thinking and emotion is instinctive decision, both serve success, but logic is above emotion

i dont care to go against what you say necessarily

Alright lol, i wasted too much time already on this, can't continue

 

[lunarflame]

in saudi arabia

generally speaking; a higher power i mean

 

[noobs]

generally speaking; a higher power i mean

if there is then he decides what succeeds and fails, so the most holy people are the winners and the most demonic are the losers

 

[ey88]

generally speaking; a higher power i mean

if there is then he decides what succeeds and fails, so the most holy people are the winners and the most demonic are the losers

God isn’t real

 

[noobs]

God isn’t real

y

 

[lunarflame]

if there is then he decides what succeeds and fails, so the most holy people are the winners and the most demonic are the losers

opposite. he lets us decide our own fate and holy ones are ostracized while evil is deceptively alluring

 

[noobs]

opposite. he lets us decide our own fate and holy ones are ostracized while evil is deceptively alluring

y do you think that

 

[lunarflame]

God isn’t real

too much evidence to say he’s not

 

[ey88]

too much evidence to say he’s not

Like?

 

[Klasik616]

God isn’t real

He doesn't believe emotions are necessary to have a will to live but believes God is real even when no one has ever seen him. I think he's confusing feelings and emotions, some people don't have feelings. Only schizoids don't have emotions and they do not have motivation or passion for anything, not even egoistic ends. And if we have to discuss if God is real then there's not enough proof of the being we're talking about because is not even around us.

 

[lunarflame]

y do you think that

because i believe the current condition of man was caused by disobedience to god and through his own decision (man’s) evil now has a grasp on the world. we have trouble recognizing the good and mistake the evil for it as a result of demonic influence

 

[noobs]

He doesn't believe emotions are necessary to have a will to live but believes God is real even when no one has ever seen him. I think he's confusing feelings and emotions, some people don't have feelings. Only schizoids don't have emotions and they do not have motivation or passion for anything, not even egoistic ends.

I’m agnostic

 

[noobs]

because i believe the current condition of man was caused by disobedience to god and through his own decision (man’s) evil now has a grasp on the world. we have trouble recognizing the good and mistake the evil for it as a result of demonic influence

Y

 

[lunarflame]

Like?

any transcendental argument. unless your a complete relativist (which makes no sense), your worldview requires a certain diety

 

[noobs]

any transcendental argument. unless your a complete relativist (which makes no sense), your worldview requires a certain diety

Y does relativism make no sense

 

[lunarflame]

Y

the christian god aligns with my worldview more than any other diety and with orthodox christian theology your able to ground concepts such as morality and other things that i’m not aware of because i haven’t read about this in months

 

[noobs]

the christian god aligns with my worldview more than any other diety and with orthodox christian theology your able to ground concepts such as morality and other things that i’m not aware of because i haven’t read about this in months

Y would this one selection of possible events happen and why would god allow for evil people to succeed

 

[lunarflame]

Y does relativism make no sense

relativism is the belief that there is no universal truth, but that itself is a universal truth. it contradicts

 

[noobs]

relativism is the belief that there is no universal truth, but that itself is a universal truth. it contradicts

If I kill someone for money then it’s good for me but bad for them so how can there be a universal truth

 

[lunarflame]

Y would this one selection of possible events happen and why would god allow for evil people to succeed

they would happen because he allows us to make decisions for ourselves. evil succeeds because by man’s decision to disobey god, evil came into creation (before this creation was good) and corrupted the world (things now die, people are tempted, etc). demons also have a will which they use to bring about the destruction of as many human souls possible out of pride. they cannot repent because they had complete knowledge of god and his plan for creation and still rejected him. humans can repent because of their lack of knowledge. naturally, they try to make us fall into evil and it makes the most sense for them to target those in power since they have the ability to influence the general population with certain ideas and therefore make them fall as well. there’s another idea also. anything in excess causes man’s soul to fall (money, sex, etc). people who have things in excess, like money, are more materially stable and successful by modern standards. demons are what drive people to have things in excess

 

[lunarflame]

If I kill someone for money then it’s good for me but bad for them so how can there be a universal truth

your assuming that there can’t be multiple universal truths about a single action. in this case it’s true that you are better off because you now have more money, and it’s also true that the other person is worse off because they are dead. these two truths aren’t competing with each other to see which one is universal, they are aspects of the over arching moral question of the situation: should you or should not you have killed him? to answer this a moral truth statement is required. in a relativist worldview there isn’t a valid answer because there is no meaning to any moral question. you can’t actually be right or wrong. that is the exact problem. there’s isn’t a way to know whether or not your initial truth statement is correct, ie there is no way to actually know if your better off with that money or if the man is better/worse off dead. those questions are irrelevant without knowledge of what makes something true. i probably fucked something up in there so if it doesn’t make any sense that’s why

 

[cromagnon]

why is it bad

Caged

 

[cromagnon]

Caged

Hahahaha thatsb fucking hilarious

 

[got.daim]

inceldom

 

[ey88]

inceldom

It’s a good thing

 

[got.daim]

It’s a good thing

how

 

[ey88]

how

Subhumans shouldn’t be able to reproduce

 

[got.daim]

Subhumans shouldn’t be able to reproduce

y ru happy

 

[ey88]

y ru happy

Because I’m not subhuman