Theres still hope for the maxilla,mandible recessed cels

[Akatlyn]

I definitely got subtle maxilla facial changes during the last 4 years

 

[2marc1]

damn really. I made a thread about it and the replies i got was all "cope jfl wont work"
https://looksmax.org/threads/my-maxilla-is-cooked-high-iq-gtfih.1259622/#post-18539676

theres not a single reply saying that, it does work, theres multiple cases of adults using a normal facemask to fix underbites and shit like that + your 15 it HAS to work

 

[moze]

Niggers be calling everything cope so they can rot more instead of doing something. Facepullers are proven to work btw as long as you wear them enough.

I agree.they say that its cope coz they cant wear it that long

 

[HandsomeHustler]

orthodontic facepullers work

 

[2marc1]

I agree.they say that its cope coz they cant wear it that long

why cant they wear it that long?

 

[moze]

why cant they wear it that long?

They are too lazy

 

[2marc1]

They are too lazy

 

[Deleted member 119045]

damn really. I made a thread about it and the replies i got was all "cope jfl wont work"
https://looksmax.org/threads/my-maxilla-is-cooked-high-iq-gtfih.1259622/#post-18539676

Cuz 90% here are retards

 

[Narratiel]

Theres a thing called sutures in your skull :

Spoiler: sutures

View attachment 3375341

They normally close around the ages 15-20, being 14-15 in the worst case and for females , theres been data on people that had their maxillary sutures open till 71
observed fusion of the midpalatal suture in subjects ranging from 15 to 19 years old. On the other hand, patients at ages 27, 32,9 54,11 and even 7113 years have been reported to have no signs of fusion of this suture

Spoiler: study sutures

Midpalatal suture maturation: Classification method for individual assessment before rapid maxillary expansion - PMC

In this study, we present a novel classification method for individual assessment of midpalatal suture morphology. Cone-beam computed tomography images from 140 subjects (ages, 5.6-58.4 years) were examined to define the radiographic stages of ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

So that means that with couple orthodontic methods like a bow fm(showed in spoiler) , palate expander ,mewing , thumbpulling,braces with elastics (that connect the maxilla and the mandible) might work at those ages.

Spoiler: bow facemask

View attachment 3375355

Therefore you could give a lefort 2 effect to your face, if your mandible is recessed cause your maxilla is recessed (obvious cause the maxilla is connected through the mandible tmj, same as the zygomatic area ,palatine,alveolar and frontal area.
If used right it may fix downgrowth and give you a straighter nose and forwarding all your bones that are manipulated to the maxilla.
Good posture should go hand to hand with this (chin tuckings and all those posture exercises).

If your recessed, broke and your sutures arent closed, ITS NOT FUCKING OVER DONT GIVE UP. If your above those ages and your sutures are closed and your broke, i recommend you to start saving up for surgery or you will stay like that forever regardless of whatever orthodontic appliance you want to try.

not tagging no one because im a greycel that has no friends.

under 16 its usually worth trying every softmaxx there is

 

[zulca]

so if i get braces with elasics and tell them to move the lower jaw forward instead of the upper jaw to match the lower, ill ascend?

 

[2marc1]

so if i get braces with elasics and tell them to move the lower jaw forward instead of the upper jaw to match the lower, ill ascend?

yes, but what it does it moves lower jaw forward but slightly moves upper jaw the other way around, so you'll have to get some tpye of headgear after to get actual forward growth

 

[realshit]

They normally close around the ages 15-20, being 14-15 in the worst case and for females ,

16-18

 

[realshit]

i said that salludon ascended cause of mewing and you laughed at me bruh

no way Bro wtf

 

[2marc1]

16-18

no

 

[DaddyCain]

theres been data on people that had their maxillary sutures open till 71

I want to see the data or the research, not the quotes.

 

[tnvrencind]

Theres a thing called sutures in your skull :

Spoiler: sutures

View attachment 3375341

They normally close around the ages 15-20, being 14-15 in the worst case and for females , theres been data on people that had their maxillary sutures open till 71
observed fusion of the midpalatal suture in subjects ranging from 15 to 19 years old. On the other hand, patients at ages 27, 32,9 54,11 and even 7113 years have been reported to have no signs of fusion of this suture

Spoiler: study sutures

Midpalatal suture maturation: Classification method for individual assessment before rapid maxillary expansion - PMC

In this study, we present a novel classification method for individual assessment of midpalatal suture morphology. Cone-beam computed tomography images from 140 subjects (ages, 5.6-58.4 years) were examined to define the radiographic stages of ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

So that means that with couple orthodontic methods like a bow fm(showed in spoiler) , palate expander ,mewing , thumbpulling,braces with elastics (that connect the maxilla and the mandible) might work at those ages.

Spoiler: bow facemask

View attachment 3375355

Therefore you could give a lefort 2 effect to your face, if your mandible is recessed cause your maxilla is recessed (obvious cause the maxilla is connected through the mandible tmj, same as the zygomatic area ,palatine,alveolar and frontal area.
If used right it may fix downgrowth and give you a straighter nose and forwarding all your bones that are manipulated to the maxilla.
Good posture should go hand to hand with this (chin tuckings and all those posture exercises).

If your recessed, broke and your sutures arent closed, ITS NOT FUCKING OVER DONT GIVE UP. If your above those ages and your sutures are closed and your broke, i recommend you to start saving up for surgery or you will stay like that forever regardless of whatever orthodontic appliance you want to try.

not tagging no one because im a greycel that has no friends.

good high effort thread, however, this is big cope nigga

 

[2marc1]

I want to see the data or the research, not the quotes.

look it up online fucking nigger

 

[2marc1]

good high effort thread, however, this is big cope nigga

never cope, not cope, if its posted by me it would never be cope

 

[DaddyCain]

look it up online fucking nigger

How sad your life must be to believe that cope.
In no world the mid Midpalatal Suture is open up to 71, The maximum is usually around 18. Most orthodontists are aware of this.

 

[2marc1]

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How sad your life must be to believe that cope.
In no world the mid Midpalatal Suture is open up to 71, The maximum is usually around 18. Most orthodontists are aware of this.

im aware of this and i said it on the thread, i said that there is cases of the suture being open at 71, you can look it up yourself, mostly sutures in the maxilla fuse around early 30s old 20s, but they are less and less maleable after puberty 16-20, but bones are still mealeable, just not as much as an 8 year oldlol