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For me it is:

Facial hair is masculine ( realised it’s cope)

Darker skin tones are dimorphic and ideal ( past medium brown it becomes low class no matter the face)

Nose is giga important ( apart from a giga subhuman/semite nose it isn’t a make or break)

Being thin will make you look weak and off putting . Girls will think you are bad at securing resources ie food ( realised this is giga cope and that being as thin as you can without shooting yourself in the foot is ideal)

More muscles = more attraction ( another gymcel redpill cope I fell for and realised it’s a bonus for smv but nowhere close to face and height )

Fashion is bullshit ( apparently it’s not Jfl . This is one of the things memed about here but sometimes well done fashion can actually ascend you )
 
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Not talking like a redditor (I don't put everything inside parentheses)
 
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For me it is:

Facial hair is masculine ( realised it’s cope)

Darker skin tones are ideal ( past medium brown it becomes low class no matter the face)

Nose is giga important ( apart from a giga subhuman/semite nose it isn’t a make or break)

Being thin will make you look weak and off putting . Girls will think you are bad at securing resources ie food ( realised this is giga cope and that being as thin as you can without shooting yourself in the foot is ideal)

More muscles = more attraction ( another gymcel redpill cope I fell for and realised it’s a bonus for smv but nowhere close to face and height )

Fashion is bullshit ( apparently it’s not Jfl . This is one of the things memed about here but sometimes well done fashion can actually ascend you )
That the blackpill is true (it’s not)
 
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Eye colour hardly matters - I used to think that it mattered a lot
 
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Ogres mog hence my name (they don't)
 
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I am good looking (realised i am ugly kutta)
 
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Eye colour hardly matters - I used to think that it mattered a lot
Low iq cope
Because you live in Dutchland and everybody is blue eyed it doesn't mean eye color is cope.
Light eyes in ethnicland= instantly +3 psl.
 
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I’m HTN (I’m LTN)

Men age like wine (looking over 20 is a death sentence)

I need implants (I need bimax AND implants)

Makeup is gay (use anything you can to win)

Loads of things…
 
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Eye colour hardly matters - I used to think that it mattered a lot
Especially if the girl Is light eyed herself. It's only T50 ethnics Who demand colored eyes
 
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I’m HTN (I’m LTN)

Men age like wine (looking over 20 is a death sentence)

I need implants (I need bimax AND implants)

Makeup is gay (use anything you can to win)

Loads of things…
Just shave your Beard
 
before coming across psl i wasnt consciously aware of what made the face attractive

so i obsessed over some irrelevant stuff such as nose for example..
 
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I used to think the blackpill was cope( I was redpilled)
 
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Before psl Foids who I thought to be stacies were mere htbs 😹😹😹🤙🤙🤙
 
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I used to think most people could get significantly better-looking.

But now I realize that beyond leanmaxxing almost noone actually ascends whatsoever. Every looksmax is cope.
 
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I used to think people could actually get significantly better-looking.

But now I realize that beyond leanmaxxing almost noone actually ascends whatsoever. Every looksmax is cope.
Yea only real looksmaxes are getting lean and getting hair or skin back if you were balding or had bad skin. Everything else like jewelry gym or debloat substances etc do almost nothing
 
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Yea only real looksmaxes are getting lean and getting hair or skin back if you were balding or had bad skin. Everything else like jewelry gym or debloat substances etc do almost nothing
The only thing that made a difference for me was leanmaxxing.

All the coping I have done that has had 0 real effect. Just neglible bs that wasnt really worth it:

-tretinoin and every other skincare product I have used. (niacemide, VitC lotions, toners, moisurizers/spf, AHA/BHA exfoliants, azaleic acid, prob many more)
-derma-rolling
-finasteride.
-gymcelling. both cardio and weightlifting.
-changing diet (lowcarb, liver, more meat and healthy fats, etc).
-changing hairstyle many times.
-fashion (watch, armband, better-fitted clothes, shoes, etc.)
-scents/parfumes
-shaping my eyebrows and curling my eyelashes.
-supplements (magnesium, zinc, beta-carrotene, vitD, vitK, VitC, astaxanthin, many more)
-cold showers
-nofap
-cialis+bathmate
-all kinds of oils for hairgrowth
-mouthflushing with coconut oil

And probably another 20 things that I did that I've already forgotten. None of it will make a serious impact unless you are somehow extremely deficient in that area. Like having acne and managing to fix that somehow.
 
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The only thing that made a difference for me was leanmaxxing.

All the coping I have done that has had 0 real effect. Just neglible bs that wasnt really worth it:

-tretinoin and every other skincare product I have used. (niacemide, VitC lotions, toners, moisurizers/spf, AHA/BHA exfoliants, azaleic acid, prob many more)
-derma-rolling
-finasteride.
-gymcelling. both cardio and weightlifting.
-changing diet (lowcarb, liver, more meat and healthy fats, etc).
-changing hairstyle many times.
-fashion (watch, armband, better-fitted clothes, shoes, etc.)
-scents/parfumes
-shaping my eyebrows and curling my eyelashes.
-supplements (magnesium, zinc, beta-carrotene, vitD, vitK, VitC, astaxanthin, many more)
-cold showers
-nofap
-cialis+bathmate
-all kinds of oils for hairgrowth
-mouthflushing with coconut oil

And probably another 20 things that I did that I've already forgotten. None of it will make a serious impact unless you are somehow extremely deficient in that area. Like having acne and managing to fix that somehow.
But you aren’t lean right now for some reason. Why not get to single digit bf and get very long hair and earrings to contrast with your extremely intimidating face/eye area?

Remember even Ramirez got no IOIs until he was caufht
 
But you aren’t lean right now for some reason. Why not get to single digit bf and
single digit bf is mental illness. ill never do that. just look like a heroin-addict bro

ive been 17% bf before and it was okay but I struggle to maintain that weight due to being obese in my childhood. It's very rough for me.
get very long hair and earrings to contrast with your extremely intimidating face/eye area?
already did that and everyone on this forum back then called me a longhaired subhuman. 'nonNT hair'

also IRL it didnt work.
 
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single digit bf is mental illness. ill never do that. just look like a heroin-addict bro

ive been 17% bf before and it was okay but I struggle to maintain that weight due to being obese in my childhood. It's very rough for me.

already did that and everyone on this forum back then called me a longhaired subhuman. 'nonNT hair'

also IRL it didnt work.
Have you tried darker long hair and go for the Peter Steele metal look?
 
For me it is:

Facial hair is masculine ( realised it’s cope)

Darker skin tones are dimorphic and ideal ( past medium brown it becomes low class no matter the face)

Nose is giga important ( apart from a giga subhuman/semite nose it isn’t a make or break)

Being thin will make you look weak and off putting . Girls will think you are bad at securing resources ie food ( realised this is giga cope and that being as thin as you can without shooting yourself in the foot is ideal)

More muscles = more attraction ( another gymcel redpill cope I fell for and realised it’s a bonus for smv but nowhere close to face and height )

Fashion is bullshit ( apparently it’s not Jfl . This is one of the things memed about here but sometimes well done fashion can actually ascend you )
past being a legit HTN (Amnesias looks level) height, frame and being NT matters more than face.
 
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Have you tried darker long hair and go for the Peter Steele metal look?
peter steele has straight hair, mine is curly.

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ive used the last pic on OLD a lot back then but it had 0 appeal.
 
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peter steele has straight hair, mine is curly.

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ive used the last pic on OLD a lot back then but it had 0 appeal.
Your problem is your downturned mouth serious expression no earrings lack of pigment from sun tan and bad skin texture.
 
Eye colour hardly matters - I used to think that it mattered a lot
most of the time you cant even tell someones eye colour until their close up enough that you already decided in a millesecond if you find them attrractive or not (this happens at a dsitamce of 1-3 metres)
 
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peter steele has straight hair, mine is curly.

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ive used the last pic on OLD a lot back then but it had 0 appeal.
I feel like if you didnt like young girls so much youd have a chance tbh-

youd do well with 30+ women but your appeal is quite low to under 25 yo girls
 
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I feel like if you didnt like young girls so much youd have a chance tbh-

youd do well with 30+ women but your appeal is quite low to under 25 yo girls
30+ yo women don't want anything to do with a 24yo(back then) or now 27yo student with no money or romantic experience.

if i cant get young girls then its over
 
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Fashion ascends a lot. Imagine having darktriad looks and you dress like a nerd jfl
 
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30+ yo women don't want anything to do with a 24yo(back then) or now 27yo student with no money or romantic experience.

if i cant get young girls then its over
yeah I agree its more or less over for you I was just stating a fact about your appeal- Im not gaslighting you like the rest of the so called 'blackpillers' here
 
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Haircut ascends you hard - Thought it was bluepill cope
 
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I agree but, more muscle is better if you are natty and can stay at 10% bf while gaining. Also, all the stacies at my college fuck 25-30 year-olds. I don't know why you are putting the ideal age for men so low when it has been statistically proven to be higher time and time again.

I changed my mind about foreheads, I used to think it was over if you had a big forehead. Now I realize it's not even really a falio sometimes a halo on the right face.
 
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Fashion is bullshit ( apparently it’s not Jfl . This is one of the things memed about here but sometimes well done fashion can actually ascend you )
As a huge men clothing style nerd i can tell fashion is cope.
Its all about your frame, heigh and size of your arms.
You should build your style to make your shoulders to look as broad as possible and your legs as long as possible.
 
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As a huge men clothing style nerd i can tell fashion is cope.
Its all about your frame, heigh and size of your arms.
You should build your style to make your shoulders to look as broad as possible and your legs as long as possible.
ye but thats fashion nigga look at ramirez in suit vs him in some prison jumper still looked good in both but suit n shades combo made him a rockstar legend
 
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Wanting to live. I do not. I've given up.
 
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I agree but, more muscle is better if you are natty and can stay at 10% bf while gaining. Also, all the stacies at my college fuck 25-30 year-olds. I don't know why you are putting the ideal age for men so low when it has been statistically proven to be higher time and time again.

I changed my mind about foreheads, I used to think it was over if you had a big forehead. Now I realize it's not even really a falio sometimes a halo on the right face.
For looks and if the person takes care of himself prime is 20- 28. for smv its 24-32 (both im talking about peak ages for someone who takes care of themselves ,not your avg joe who descends by 23)
 
ye but thats fashion nigga look at ramirez in suit vs him in some prison jumper still looked good in both but suit n shades combo made him a rockstar legend
Imagine Ramirez being the face of Ralph Lauren
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Q : Things you’ve changed your mind about since joining the forum

A : I've realised that i should not breed with gooks
 
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peter steele has straight hair, mine is curly.

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ive used the last pic on OLD a lot back then but it had 0 apappeally fu
Holy fuck what a mogger 🤙🤙🤙🤙🚬🚬🚬🚬🔪🔪🔪
 
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trying to make girls laugh over text (cope, only looks matter)
double texting(you already lost if you do this)
understanding why an attractive face is attractive
 
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ye but thats fashion nigga look at ramirez in suit vs him in some prison jumper still looked good in both but suit n shades combo made him a rockstar legend
nah you mix things up fashion and style are different things.
Thats fashion:
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Low iq niggas fell for fashion cope and make their legs look bigger than torso.
Thats style:
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Good proportions, mostly focused to create a visual v shape. Sometimes a few pieces to spice things up but simple overall.
 
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that i have a chance at a happy life with a loving wife
 
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trying to make girls laugh over text (cope, only looks matter)
double texting(you already lost if you do this)
U just reminded me my copes.
ocr
 
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Once I realized leanmaxxing was truth, ascension was unavoidable
 
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Low iq niggas fell for fashion cope and make their legs look bigger than torso.

You should build your style to make your shoulders to look as broad as possible and your legs as long as possible.
are you saying long legs are good or bad ?

and you're right , fashion is cope

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who do you think girls will choose ? :ROFLMAO:
 
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Eye colour hardly matters - I used to think that it mattered a lot

It matters a lot. I have a crush on a mulatta Stacy who’d be just a Becky if her eyes were brown instead of blue.
 
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Gooks are alright (I want to genocide gooks).
 
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It matters a lot. I have a crush on a mulatta Stacy who’d be just a Becky if her eyes were brown instead of blue.
You are full of estrogen your opinion is irrelevant
 
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Thought that being sub 15% bodyfat was just for people who wanted cut bodies and that losing weight wouldnt ascend me
 
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trashed all the redpill shit that polluted my mind for years and actually softmaxxed and returned to bluepill courting techniques with infinitely better results
 
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