Thinking of becoming a Qu’ranist

[Gengar’s Ghost]

so are you gonna fuck a sex slave on your wife's bed , like mohammed did to maria kibtia ?

Sounds like tales from a kafir. Source? (An Islamic one, not a kafir source).

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

South asian, east asian etc. - means gooks? Or meds?

South Asian means the people who lived in modern-day India/Bangladesh/Pakistan. East Asian means Chinese/Korean/Japanese/Mongolian (but this number is the lowest, but it could also even be inaccurate).

 

[Deleted member 7027]

South Asian means the people who lived in modern-day India/Bangladesh/Pakistan. East Asian means Chinese/Korean/Japanese/Mongolian (but this number is the lowest, but it could also even be inaccurate).

Wtf bhai so u all have gook ancestry.. that explains what fucked ur indiastan up

 

[Deleted member 16371]

Wtf bhai so u all have gook ancestry.. that explains what fucked ur indiastan up

Only the side near China has gook ancestry the rest dont

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

Wtf bhai so u all have gook ancestry.. that explains what fucked ur indiastan up

I am not entirely sure about this, all I know / heard is that Bengalis (so people from Bangladesh) do have more East Asian ancestry. Then you also have clearly East Asian looking people in the Northeast of India. You also have Hazaras in Pakistan but these are native in Afghanistan and migrants to Pakistan I think.

 

[human304]

Sounds like tales from a kafir. Source? (An Islamic one, not a kafir source).

Mary the Copt (Arabic: مارية القبطية Mariyah Al-Qibtiyah‎), also known as Maria Qubtiyya, was one of the concubines/sex slaves of the prophet Muhammad. Although she is considered an "umm al-mu'minin" أم ألمؤمنين she was never actually the wife of the prophet according to the accepted historical sources by orthodox Sunni Islam.

Maria al-Qibtiyya belonged to a wealthy family and was the daughter of an Egyptian man and a Greek woman who resided in Egypt. She was given to the court of Muqawqis – who was the ruler of Egypt at the time – at a rather young age. Maria al-Qibtiyya is one of the controversial figures in the history of Islam because of how she became the wife of the Holy Prophet (PBUH).

wow mixed race ( Egyptian & Greek ) Stacey sex slave you get to fuck on your wife's bed and six year old Stacey Jailbait to fuck.

ISLAM is the one true religion.

Maria the Copt (Mariyah Al-Qibtiyyah)

wikiislam.net

Maria al-Qibtiyya: Mothers of the Faithful | IslamicFinder

Maria al-Qibtiyya was an honorable and respectable woman who only spent three years of her life with the Holy Prophet (PBUH).

www.islamicfinder.org

also this website is misleading Maria was never mohammed's wife.

Questions about Maria al-Qibtiyya

Maria bint Shamʿūn, better known as Maria al-Qibtiyya (مارية القبطية‎), Maria Qubtiyya, or Maria the Copt (died 637), was an Egyptian who, along with her sister Sirin, were sent to the Prophet Muhammad in 628 as a gift by Muqawqis, a governor of Alexandria, Egypt during the territory's Persian...

www.al-islam.org

 

[Jenik]

Whats a Quranist

 

[human304]

Whats a Quranist

only follows Quoran and rejects Hadiths . as they believe Hadiths contain misleading information.

but Quoran is full of inhuman things.

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

Whats a Quranist

A person who only believes in the Qur'an but rejects the hadiths (sayings of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). What separates Sunni Muslims (majority of Muslims) and Shia Muslims (minority of Muslims but still considerable presence) are the hadiths they believe in.

 

[Jenik]

but Quoran is full of inhuman things

Take magic mushrooms or DMT while reading it then you will understand it

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

Mary the Copt (Arabic: مارية القبطية Mariyah Al-Qibtiyah‎), also known as Maria Qubtiyya, was one of the concubines/sex slaves of the prophet Muhammad. Although she is considered an "umm al-mu'minin" أم ألمؤمنين she was never actually the wife of the prophet according to the accepted historical sources by orthodox Sunni Islam.

Maria al-Qibtiyya belonged to a wealthy family and was the daughter of an Egyptian man and a Greek woman who resided in Egypt. She was given to the court of Muqawqis – who was the ruler of Egypt at the time – at a rather young age. Maria al-Qibtiyya is one of the controversial figures in the history of Islam because of how she became the wife of the Holy Prophet (PBUH).

wow mixed race ( Egyptian & Greek ) Stacey sex slave you get to fuck on your wife's bed and six year old Stacey Jailbait to fuck.

ISLAM is the one true religion.

Maria the Copt (Mariyah Al-Qibtiyyah)

wikiislam.net

Maria al-Qibtiyya: Mothers of the Faithful | IslamicFinder

Maria al-Qibtiyya was an honorable and respectable woman who only spent three years of her life with the Holy Prophet (PBUH).

www.islamicfinder.org

also this website is misleading Maria was never mohammed's wife.

Questions about Maria al-Qibtiyya

Maria bint Shamʿūn, better known as Maria al-Qibtiyya (مارية القبطية‎), Maria Qubtiyya, or Maria the Copt (died 637), was an Egyptian who, along with her sister Sirin, were sent to the Prophet Muhammad in 628 as a gift by Muqawqis, a governor of Alexandria, Egypt during the territory's Persian...

www.al-islam.org

A Quran'ist would reject this, actually, since the information here is retrieved from ahadith. It seems unlikely that sex slaves are a permissible thing in Islam. Thus giving such a spin to that tale is something I could easily ignore. I don't blindly believe in all ahadith.

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

Take magic mushrooms or DMT while reading it then you will understand it

I have taken acid before, never again.. did it thrice. Always feel legit schizophrenic on acid during the peak.

 

[Jenik]

I have taken acid before, never again.. did it thrice. Always feel legit schizophrenic on acid during the peak.

Shouldve read the Quran during peak. You would 1000% understand it

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

Shouldve read the Quran during peak. You would 1000% understand it

My friend went from murtad (someone who leaves Islam) to coming back to Islam (he was a murtad for years, since high school well until after college life). That's part of the reason why I decided to take acid.

 

[human304]

A Quran'ist would reject this, actually, since the information here is retrieved from ahadith. It seems unlikely that sex slaves are a permissible thing in Islam. Thus giving such a spin to that tale is something I could easily ignore. I don't blindly believe in all ahadith.

reject these​

​

Surah 2 (Al-Baqarah)​

Verse 191:


And kill them [in battle] wherever you overtake them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah1 is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al-Ḥarām until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.

Surah 3 (Ali ‘Imran)​

Verse 151:


We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve for what they have associated with Allah of which He had not sent down [any] authority.1 And their refuge will be the Fire, and wretched is the residence of the wrongdoers.

Surah 4 (An-Nisa)​

Verse 56:


Indeed, those who disbelieve in Our verses – We will drive them into a fire. Every time their skins are roasted through, We will replace them with other skins so they may taste the punishment. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted in Might and Wise.


Verse 89:


They wish you would disbelieve as they disbelieved so you would be alike. So do not take from among them allies until they emigrate for the cause of Allah. But if they turn away [i.e., refuse], then seize them and kill them [for their betrayal] wherever you find them and take not from among them any ally or helper,


Verse 101:


And when you travel throughout the land, there is no blame upon you for shortening the prayer,1 [especially] if you fear that those who disbelieve may disrupt [or attack] you.2 Indeed, the disbelievers are ever to you a clear enemy.

Surah 5 (Al-Ma’idah)​

Verse 14:


And from those who say, “We are Christians” We took their covenant; but they forgot a portion of that of which they were reminded.1 So We caused among them2 animosity and hatred until the Day of Resurrection. And Allah is going to inform them about what they used to do.


Verse 51:


O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you – then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people.


Verse 57:


O you who have believed, take not those who have taken your religion in ridicule and amusement among the ones who were given the Scripture before you nor the disbelievers as allies. And fear Allah, if you should [truly] be believers.

Surah 8 (Al-Anfal)​

Verse 65:


O Prophet, urge the believers to battle. If there are among you twenty [who are] steadfast, they will overcome two hundred. And if there are among you one hundred [who are steadfast], they will overcome a thousand of those who have disbelieved because they are a people who do not understand.


Verse 69:


So consume what you have taken of war booty [as being] lawful and good, and fear Allah. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.

Surah 9 (At-Tawbah)​

Verse 5:


And when the inviolable months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakāh, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.


Verse 14:


Fight them; Allah will punish them by your hands and will disgrace them and give you victory over them and satisfy the breasts [i.e., desires] of a believing people.


Verse 23:


O you who have believed, do not take your fathers or your brothers as allies if they have preferred disbelief over belief. And whoever does so among you – then it is those who are the wrongdoers.


Verse 28:


O you who have believed, indeed the polytheists are unclean, so let them not approach al-Masjid al-Ḥarām after this, their [final] year. And if you fear privation, Allah will enrich you from His bounty if He wills. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Wise.


Verse 29


Fight against those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth [i.e., Islām] from those who were given the Scripture – [fight] until they give the jizyah1 willingly while they are humbled.


Verse 37:


Indeed, the postponing [of restriction within sacred months] is an increase in disbelief by which those who have disbelieved are led [further] astray. They make it1 lawful one year and unlawful another year to correspond to the number made unlawful by Allah2 and [thus] make lawful what Allah has made unlawful. Made pleasing to them is the evil of their deeds; and Allah does not guide the disbelieving people


Verse 58


And among them are some who criticize you concerning the [distribution of] charities. If they are given from them, they approve; but if they are not given from them, at once they become angry.


Verse 111


Indeed, Allah has purchased from the believers their lives and their properties [in exchange] for that they will have Paradise. They fight in the cause of Allah, so they kill and are killed. [It is] a true promise [binding] upon Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur’ān. And who is truer to his covenant than Allah? So rejoice in your transaction which you have contracted. And it is that which is the great attainment.


Verse 123:


O you who have believed, fight against those adjacent to you of the disbelievers and let them find in you harshness. And know that Allah is with the righteous.

Surah 21 (Al-Anbya)​

Verse 98:


Indeed, you [disbelievers] and what you worship other than Allah are the firewood of Hell. You will be coming to [enter] it.

Surah 32 (As-Sajdah)​

Verse 22:


And who is more unjust than one who is reminded of the verses of his Lord; then he turns away from them? Indeed We, from the criminals, will take retribution.

Surah 33 (Al-Ahzab)​

Verse 61: Accursed wherever they are found, [being] seized and massacred completely.

Surah 41 (Fussilat)​

Verse 27:


But We will surely cause those who disbelieve to taste a severe punishment, and We will surely recompense them for the worst of what they had been doing.


Verse 28:


That is the recompense of the enemies of Allah – the Fire. For them therein is the home of eternity as recompense for what they, of Our verses, were rejecting.

Surah 48 (Al-Fath)​

Verse 20: Allah has promised you much booty that you will take [in the future] and has hastened for you this [victory] and withheld the hands of people from you – that it may be a sign for the believers and [that] He may guide you to a straight path.

Surah 66 (At-Tahrim)​

Verse 9: O Prophet, strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them. And their refuge is Hell, and wretched is the destination.

The Noble Quran - Quran.com

The Quran translated into many languages in a simple and easy interface

quran.com

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

reject these​

​

Surah 2 (Al-Baqarah)​

Verse 191:


And kill them [in battle] wherever you overtake them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah1 is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al-Ḥarām until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.

Surah 3 (Ali ‘Imran)​

Verse 151:


We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve for what they have associated with Allah of which He had not sent down [any] authority.1 And their refuge will be the Fire, and wretched is the residence of the wrongdoers.

Surah 4 (An-Nisa)​

Verse 56:


Indeed, those who disbelieve in Our verses – We will drive them into a fire. Every time their skins are roasted through, We will replace them with other skins so they may taste the punishment. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted in Might and Wise.


Verse 89:


They wish you would disbelieve as they disbelieved so you would be alike. So do not take from among them allies until they emigrate for the cause of Allah. But if they turn away [i.e., refuse], then seize them and kill them [for their betrayal] wherever you find them and take not from among them any ally or helper,


Verse 101:


And when you travel throughout the land, there is no blame upon you for shortening the prayer,1 [especially] if you fear that those who disbelieve may disrupt [or attack] you.2 Indeed, the disbelievers are ever to you a clear enemy.

Surah 5 (Al-Ma’idah)​

Verse 14:


And from those who say, “We are Christians” We took their covenant; but they forgot a portion of that of which they were reminded.1 So We caused among them2 animosity and hatred until the Day of Resurrection. And Allah is going to inform them about what they used to do.


Verse 51:


O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you – then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people.


Verse 57:


O you who have believed, take not those who have taken your religion in ridicule and amusement among the ones who were given the Scripture before you nor the disbelievers as allies. And fear Allah, if you should [truly] be believers.

Surah 8 (Al-Anfal)​

Verse 65:


O Prophet, urge the believers to battle. If there are among you twenty [who are] steadfast, they will overcome two hundred. And if there are among you one hundred [who are steadfast], they will overcome a thousand of those who have disbelieved because they are a people who do not understand.


Verse 69:


So consume what you have taken of war booty [as being] lawful and good, and fear Allah. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.

Surah 9 (At-Tawbah)​

Verse 5:


And when the inviolable months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakāh, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.


Verse 14:


Fight them; Allah will punish them by your hands and will disgrace them and give you victory over them and satisfy the breasts [i.e., desires] of a believing people.


Verse 23:


O you who have believed, do not take your fathers or your brothers as allies if they have preferred disbelief over belief. And whoever does so among you – then it is those who are the wrongdoers.


Verse 28:


O you who have believed, indeed the polytheists are unclean, so let them not approach al-Masjid al-Ḥarām after this, their [final] year. And if you fear privation, Allah will enrich you from His bounty if He wills. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Wise.


Verse 29


Fight against those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth [i.e., Islām] from those who were given the Scripture – [fight] until they give the jizyah1 willingly while they are humbled.


Verse 37:


Indeed, the postponing [of restriction within sacred months] is an increase in disbelief by which those who have disbelieved are led [further] astray. They make it1 lawful one year and unlawful another year to correspond to the number made unlawful by Allah2 and [thus] make lawful what Allah has made unlawful. Made pleasing to them is the evil of their deeds; and Allah does not guide the disbelieving people


Verse 58


And among them are some who criticize you concerning the [distribution of] charities. If they are given from them, they approve; but if they are not given from them, at once they become angry.


Verse 111


Indeed, Allah has purchased from the believers their lives and their properties [in exchange] for that they will have Paradise. They fight in the cause of Allah, so they kill and are killed. [It is] a true promise [binding] upon Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur’ān. And who is truer to his covenant than Allah? So rejoice in your transaction which you have contracted. And it is that which is the great attainment.


Verse 123:


O you who have believed, fight against those adjacent to you of the disbelievers and let them find in you harshness. And know that Allah is with the righteous.

Surah 21 (Al-Anbya)​

Verse 98:


Indeed, you [disbelievers] and what you worship other than Allah are the firewood of Hell. You will be coming to [enter] it.

Surah 32 (As-Sajdah)​

Verse 22:


And who is more unjust than one who is reminded of the verses of his Lord; then he turns away from them? Indeed We, from the criminals, will take retribution.

Surah 33 (Al-Ahzab)​

Verse 61: Accursed wherever they are found, [being] seized and massacred completely.

Surah 41 (Fussilat)​

Verse 27:


But We will surely cause those who disbelieve to taste a severe punishment, and We will surely recompense them for the worst of what they had been doing.


Verse 28:


That is the recompense of the enemies of Allah – the Fire. For them therein is the home of eternity as recompense for what they, of Our verses, were rejecting.

Surah 48 (Al-Fath)​

Verse 20: Allah has promised you much booty that you will take [in the future] and has hastened for you this [victory] and withheld the hands of people from you – that it may be a sign for the believers and [that] He may guide you to a straight path.

Surah 66 (At-Tahrim)​

Verse 9: O Prophet, strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them. And their refuge is Hell, and wretched is the destination.

The Noble Quran - Quran.com

The Quran translated into many languages in a simple and easy interface

quran.com

All verses taken out of context. Nice try, mr. kafir. I won't go into detail for all of these but the first verse is clearly about during times of war.

 

[Jenik]

My friend went from murtad (someone who leaves Islam) to coming back to Islam (he was a murtad for years, since high school well until after college life). That's part of the reason why I decided to take acid.

He came back to islam cuz of acid?

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

He came back to islam cuz of acid?

Yes. I already gave up on him years ago, thinking he'd be a murtad forever but by God's grace, he came back to Islam.

 

[Jenik]

Yes. I already gave up on him years ago, thinking he'd be a murtad forever but by God's grace, he came back to Islam.

Nah it was the acid that made him go back

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

Nah it was the acid that made him go back

The acid found his way through God.

 

[Jenik]

The acid found his way through God.

I swear to god everytime someone thinks they’re gonna die the last thing they think of and say is god

 

[robtical]

Sounds like a masterplan to get sex for muslim bois in mosque

 

[Deleted member 20652]

I like both cats n dogs

//Thomas DOM

 

[GuyFromSingapore]

You got a point. Regarding the first point especially. However I don’t think all ahadith can be completely reliable, if they don’t add to what the Qur’an has to say. After all, Qur’an is the Word of God so it is 100% facts, but ahadith are oral traditions that were recorded which could contain misunderstandings. This was done by people and therefore can be erroneous. Plus not every major school is against dogs. Some permit their usage beyond just a watchdog and consider them to be clean creatures.

The Quran was received by a human called Muhammad, apparently.

 

[GuyFromSingapore]

Cats are better cleaner and cuter and more loyal. My cat is super fucking loyal he loves me and comes to me when I come home he is bueatiful BBC Pakistani cat

Cats being loyal, lmao.

 

[GuyFromSingapore]

You have misunderstood the pride that cats have, Islam isn't againts pride, having pride for being a muslim is considered normal for example, the pride that cats have is that they are reasonable beings, they give for what is given to them unlike dogs who are mindless which Islamically makes dogs follow ibliss easily cause they are mindless slaves with zero pride in their ego, while cats are considered virtuous guardians of the good in this world and because of their pride they never fall for evil tricks. Arogance is a bad word i used, but pride isn't shunned in Islam, its just bad for stuff that leads to evil. Cats simply display a behavior much more similar to humans then dogs do

Shut up.

You take hard drugs, that's haram.

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Cats being loyal, lmao.

All paki bbc mogg and cats are loyal. Go to your dog who fucks your wife when you’re not at home cuck

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

I like both cats n dogs

//Thomas DOM

I am a dog person.

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

The Quran was received by a human called Muhammad, apparently.

Yes, he is the seal of Prophets (peace be upon him).

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

All paki bbc mogg and cats are loyal. Go to your dog who fucks your wife when you’re not at home cuck

You get the p word pass until Saturday in honor of your good news bhai.

 

[mecha72]

Since I don’t agree with the ahadith that says ungrateful cats are considered better and cleaner than loyal, cute dogs.

dogs are better than cats tbh too bad their haram

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

dogs are better than cats tbh too bad their haram

Yeah well not all scholars see them as haram btw, Shafi maddhab considers dog to be clean but only their saliva is considered unclean. Therefore islamically speaking dogs are not always not allowed.

 

[mecha72]

Yeah well not all scholars see them as haram btw, Shafi maddhab considers dog to be clean but only their saliva is considered unclean. Therefore islamically speaking dogs are not always not allowed.

I think you can have one that works or can only touch if dry

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

I think you can have one that works or can only touch if dry

Yeah that’s the view of the most but there’s one that goes beyond that. I had an Arab classmate who claimed dogs were not haram but halal to keep even at home, saying he had ahadith in Arabic to support him.

 

[mecha72]

Yeah that’s the view of the most but there’s one that goes beyond that. I had an Arab classmate who claimed dogs were not haram but halal to keep even at home, saying he had ahadith in Arabic to support him.

this stuff is heavily under debate by scholars I don't think us plebs can argue on this tbh

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

this stuff is heavily under debate by scholars I don't think us plebs can argue on this tbh

I think an Arabic dude who had access to ahadith in Arab had a stronger case though.

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

You get the p word pass until Saturday in honor of your good news bhai.

Good news is I’m seeing the girl tmz, she is a bit off a roastie tbf but she is hot so whatever, she wants a BF (refuses to fuck on first date but I am 100% ceartain I can get her to spread those legs for me in person based on how she was simping for my looks on FaceTime )

If I film some I’ll send it 2 u, either way my DICK WILL TOUCH PUSSY

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

Good news is I’m seeing the girl tmz, she is a bit off a roastie tbf but she is hot so whatever, she wants a BF (refuses to fuck on first date but I am 100% ceartain I can get her to spread those legs for me in person based on how she was simping for my looks on FaceTime )

If I film some I’ll send it 2 u, either way my DICK WILL TOUCH PUSSY

Do it bhai.

Have fun tomorrow.

Btw bitches who say they don’t fuck on the first date will do it anyway, JFL.

 

[congoM]

Well there is a reason why ahadith have different classifications on the strength of the chain of narration and why hadith studies exist. There is usually very strong evidence for the validity and existence of a WEAK hadith, yet you are still allowed to reject them because of the stringent criteria of transmission that isn't employed upon any other records in history. Let alone Sahih hadith, LET ALONE mutawatir (which is pretty much historical fact, of which include miracles).

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

Well there is a reason why ahadith have different classifications on the strength of the chain of narration and why hadith studies exist. There is usually very strong evidence for the validity and existence of a WEAK hadith, yet you are still allowed to reject them because of the stringent criteria of transmission that isn't employed upon any other records in history. Let alone Sahih hadith, LET ALONE mutawatir (which is pretty much historical fact, of which include miracles).

You do have a point but the thing is, people pretend as if ahadith are a divine thing; on the same level as the Qur’an, going as far as to call people who reject ahadith altogether as “kafirs” when this is just a low IQ take. That’s my problem mostly but yes there’s stronger and weaker ahadith but even the stronger ones make no sense sometimes, such as Aisha’s age being 6-9.